When and how the Kremlin will decide to intervene in the conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh


The situation in Nagorno-Karabakh (Artsakh) is frozen in a state of dangerous uncertainty for Armenia. If the Azerbaijani military can finally cut the strategic route Goris - Lachin - Shusha - Stepanakert, the unrecognized republic will be lost for Yerevan, which will be a terrible political defeat for it. Is it possible that Moscow will calmly watch how the dance of winners is dancing in Baku and Ankara?


The Azerbaijani army, with heavy losses, continues to storm the enemy's mountain positions in the direction of Lachin and Martuni. Understanding perfectly well what this threatens them, the Armenians stand there to death. However, the Azerbaijani special forces "Yashma" managed to penetrate into the Avetaranots gorge and even took with them a number of armored vehicles, which allowed them to put under fire control the route connecting Armenia and Karabakh. The case clearly smelled of kerosene. This tactical success was confirmed in Yerevan, forcibly closing certain sections of the road through the Lachin corridor for traffic. The Armenian military claims that they are dealing only with sabotage groups of the enemy, it is reported that one such DRG of 20 fighters was destroyed. They released two of the captured special forces from "Yashma" on their way.

The exit of the Azerbaijani army to the city of Shusha poses no less danger to Artsakh. Taking it under their control, Baku and Ankara will be able to virtually wipe out Stepanakert, which is only a dozen kilometers away. At present Shusha is being shelled by MLRS and subjected to air strikes. The relocation of the Nagorno-Karabakh government to Armenia, as well as the transfer of control of the army by the unrecognized republic to Colonel-General Seyran Ohanyan, the former Minister of Defense of Armenia, who fought for Artsakh back in the 1988-1994 war, testifies to how serious the situation is.

Nagorno-Karabakh is one step away from defeat, which will have extremely difficult political consequences for Armenia and the entire Transcaucasia as a whole. Moscow cannot fail to understand this. Yes, the Russian leadership has bluntly stated that it will not intervene in the conflict as long as it is on the territory of Azerbaijan, recognized by all countries, including Armenia itself. But it would be extremely reckless to allow the Baku-Ankara alliance to completely collapse and humiliate its ally.

Note that the Russian Foreign Ministry constantly talks about the threat posed to the region by the Syrian militants who are being transferred to Karabakh by Turkey. Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said:

Military experts, representatives of the relevant departments keep this issue under close control. He worries us.

The military successes of Azerbaijan are largely due to the superiority in weapons received from Turkey and Israel. Thanks to strike UAVs that destroyed the flimsy air defense system of Nagorno-Karabakh, Azerbaijanis dominate the air. The supply of the most modern air defense and electronic warfare systems to Armenia, as well as other heavy weapons that could stop the "terrorist threat", could somewhat even out the balance of forces.

The Kremlin will not help to defeat Artsakh, but it is in its power to prevent its complete defeat. Failure to do so would be a big geopolitical mistake. The question is at what stage our leadership will nevertheless decide to intervene in order to stop the advance of the Azerbaijani army in order to politically fix its results.
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  1. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 6 November 2020 15: 29
    0
    Again a provocation against Russia. What for is Russia quarreling and going against its Strategic Partner (according to Shoigu) for the sake of amerov's biological laboratories?
  2. 123 Offline 123
    123 (123) 6 November 2020 15: 52
    +9
    I propose to send a troop of journalists to help, they are not so sorry.
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 7 November 2020 08: 04
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      Quote: 123
      I propose to send a troop of journalists to help, they are not so sorry.

      Internet troll guardians don't mind at all wink
      1. 123 Offline 123
        123 (123) 7 November 2020 10: 27
        +2
        Internet troll guardians don't mind at all

        But they are not calling on anyone to go to war. By the way, how are you planning to transfer troops, to occupy Iran or Georgia?
        1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
          Marzhecki (Sergei) 7 November 2020 11: 08
          0
          You are sick? Or don't you know how to read? There is not a word in the article about sending troops. Only about weapons.
          1. 123 Offline 123
            123 (123) 7 November 2020 11: 20
            +2
            You are sick? Or don't you know how to read? There is not a word in the article about sending troops. Only about weapons.

            Armaments to whom? Armenia is not officially at war. Artsakh is not among the allies. The question of the delivery route remains relevant.

            You are not working off your fee, I am petitioning your management to deprive you of payments for this week.

            He went to the mirror, looked straight into the eyes ... in general, the management is against, on the contrary, he thanked and wrote the award winked
            1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
              Marzhecki (Sergei) 7 November 2020 13: 01
              -1
              Quote: 123
              He went to the mirror, looked straight into the eyes ... in general, the management is against, on the contrary, he thanked and wrote the award

              Sorry sight
              1. 123 Offline 123
                123 (123) 7 November 2020 13: 43
                +2
                Sorry sight

                I don't know, I'm fine. Maybe there's nothing to blame on the mirror winked
          2. Dart2027 Offline Dart2027
            Dart2027 7 November 2020 12: 38
            +1
            Quote: Marzhetsky
            There is not a word in the article about sending troops. Only about weapons.

            And what will the Armenians do with him? The weapon itself does not fight, so, firstly, those who will fight them will need to be trained in its use and maintenance, and secondly, the army is a single mechanism and in addition to training the Armenian military to use weapons from the technical side, you also need to train them command the tactics of its application. And how to implement it?
            1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
              Marzhecki (Sergei) 7 November 2020 13: 00
              0
              Quote: Dart2027
              the army is a single mechanism and in addition to training the Armenian military to use weapons from the technical side, it is also necessary to train their command in the tactics of its use. And how to implement it?

              Armenian soldiers are not some kind of savages. By the way, they are studying in Russia.
              1. Dart2027 Offline Dart2027
                Dart2027 7 November 2020 21: 36
                +1
                Quote: Marzhetsky
                The Armenian military are not some kind of savages.

                Any military equipment (as well as equipment in general) can be operated only by people who know how to work on it. It is on it, and precisely they are able, that is, they have not only theoretical training, but also practical skills.
      2. sH, arK Offline sH, arK
        sH, arK 7 November 2020 13: 55
        +2
        Or maybe it is better to use the principle of "initiative is punishable by execution"? And zhurnalyuhi and trolls - is the difference between them significant? Whoever drowns for the Armenians - let him fight for them! Weapons can and should be sold to both sides, subject to prepayment - I see no obstacles, otherwise it would be a betrayal of both sides. But the very fact that the Azerbaijanis are in "their own right" in this war does not raise objections? Well, the Karabakh Armenians can also defend whatever they consider necessary - this is their business and their problems. And we are ready to help both sides with weapons.
  3. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
    Bulanov (Vladimir) 6 November 2020 16: 08
    +1
    Only joining the Russian Empire can help end the war in the Caucasus.
    1. sgrabik Offline sgrabik
      sgrabik (Sergei) 6 November 2020 17: 58
      +2
      And we ourselves need this ???
  4. sgrabik Offline sgrabik
    sgrabik (Sergei) 6 November 2020 16: 19
    +2
    If Azerbaijan, under pressure from Turkey, decides to invade directly into the territory of Armenia, then of course we will have to adequately respond, and we are not obliged and should not interfere in the hostilities for Nagorno-Karabakh !!!
    1. KLV Offline KLV
      KLV (Konstantin) 7 November 2020 14: 36
      +2
      What about Belarus, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan? They are also members of the CSTO and should harness themselves in this situation. Otherwise, it is not an organization, and it must be dissolved.
  5. Afinogen Offline Afinogen
    Afinogen (Afinogen) 6 November 2020 17: 00
    +5
    Note that the Russian Foreign Ministry constantly talks about the threat posed to the region by the Syrian militants who are being transferred to Karabakh

    I wonder what the threat is? On the contrary, they will be utilized in Karabakh. We spend less bombs on them in Syria.
  6. Binder Offline Binder
    Binder (Miron) 6 November 2020 17: 48
    -7
    A question to the author - how can Russia interfere in the course of hostilities on the territory of Azerbaijan? If Mr. Marzhetsky believes that the leadership of the Russian Federation will give an order to the Ministry of Defense to nominate units of the Russian army to the territory of the sovereign state of Azerbaijan and engage in battle against the army of this state, then this will definitely not happen because such actions will be blatant aggression and will inevitably expose Russia in an extremely ugly light. And from a purely technical point of view, it will be very problematic to carry out an invasion. I'm not even talking about the fact that at the moment when the foot of the first serviceman of the RF Armed Forces enters the land of Azerbaijan, the Turks will immediately stand up to protect the fraternal people. And the drones will begin to destroy already manpower and Russian equipment, which, believe me, explodes no worse than the Armenian one.
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 7 November 2020 08: 03
      -2
      Quote: Bindyuzhnik
      A question to the author - how can Russia interfere in the course of hostilities on the territory of Azerbaijan?

      The answer to your question is given directly in the article. Reread it again.
      1. Binder Offline Binder
        Binder (Miron) 7 November 2020 08: 21
        -4
        Quote: Marzhetsky
        The supply of the most modern air defense and electronic warfare systems to Armenia, as well as other heavy weapons that could stop the "terrorist threat", could somewhat equalize the balance of forces.

        Dear Marzhetsky, this is not serious - today Russia does not have air defense and REB systems capable of effectively resisting numerous drone attacks, no matter what some media show you.
        1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
          Marzhecki (Sergei) 7 November 2020 08: 26
          +4
          What are you talking about? And how many attacks are specific? How many UAVs does Baku really have? And so we just can't resist in any way?
          You, with your Israeli propaganda and advertising of your UAVs, are really going too far. Honestly.
          1. Binder Offline Binder
            Binder (Miron) 7 November 2020 08: 43
            -4
            I believe that given the financial capabilities that Baku has, additional deliveries of drones from Turkey and Israel are not a problem. And I am not engaged in propaganda and advertising.
            1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
              Marzhecki (Sergei) 7 November 2020 08: 53
              +2
              It is propaganda and advertising that you are doing here.
              1. Binder Offline Binder
                Binder (Miron) 7 November 2020 08: 54
                -5
                I will leave this remark unanswered.
                1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
                  Marzhecki (Sergei) 7 November 2020 08: 59
                  0
                  No problem smile
                  90% of what you write is true, 5% is half-truth. the other 5% is what you are writing all this for.
            2. begemot20091 Offline begemot20091
              begemot20091 (begemot20091) 7 November 2020 12: 21
              +3
              Using 100 percent of Az-na's annual budget, about 4700 Turkish drones can be purchased. Considering that the military budget is at least 10 times less, therefore this figure = 470. But this is taking into account: not to buy other military equipment, not to pay salary .... And everything else. And if a blow is struck on oil fields and pipelines ???? So ... I would not talk about any opportunities in this country.

              Armenian media reported earlier that on October 19, in the zone of the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict, five Turkish-made UAVs were shot down by means of Artsakh's air defense - this was the first report of this kind about a successful attack of combat drones by Armenian air defense. The next day, information about the destruction of another drone was released.

              Time will tell. They wanted to be princelings, let them try. Only the people are sorry.
          2. Bakht Offline Bakht
            Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 7 November 2020 12: 50
            +1
            How many UAVs Azerbaijan has is unknown. This is a military secret.

            https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Министерство_оборонной_промышленности_Азербайджана

            UAVs, I think, should be counted in the hundreds. These are not Bayraktars, of course. But loitering ammunition, suicide drones and scouts are enough. Google Azad Systems Enterprise
    2. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 7 November 2020 08: 20
      +4
      Also answer me one question. Why are you, an Israeli, and your other compatriots so interested in everything that happens in Russia, Ukraine and Karabakh? How does this concern you, I'm really curious? Syria, of course, is close by, but what do you care about the internal affairs of the listed countries?
      1. Binder Offline Binder
        Binder (Miron) 7 November 2020 08: 59
        -8
        I do not consider myself entitled to answer on behalf of all my many compatriots (except for Israeli citizenship, I also have US citizenship) - we are all different, with different political, religious and cultural preferences. And Russian expansion worries many, wherever it manifests itself.
        1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
          Marzhecki (Sergei) 7 November 2020 10: 55
          +2
          Thank you for opening up. Incidentally, I am also worried about the Israeli expansion to the Golan Heights. Can you comment on it?
          And what does "expansion" mean? In US terminology, the post-Soviet space is the "backyard of Russia." Why are you denying our country the right to behave there as it sees fit to ensure its own security? Why is Russia worse than the United States in this matter? Why do you care so much?
          1. Binder Offline Binder
            Binder (Miron) 7 November 2020 13: 05
            -7
            Quote: Marzhetsky
            By the way, I am also worried about the Israeli expansion to the Golan Heights. Can you comment on it?

            There was no and there was no Israeli expansion, the Golan is part of the mandated territory, given by the British to the French administration in Damascus, the Israelis only returned theirs.
            1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
              Marzhecki (Sergei) 7 November 2020 13: 09
              +2
              Quote: Bindyuzhnik
              given by the British to the French administration in Damascus

              Do you understand what you have just written?
              1. Binder Offline Binder
                Binder (Miron) 7 November 2020 13: 17
                -5
                I understand, but you are clearly not in the subject - take an interest in the history of the issue, there are plenty of materials on the net.
                1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
                  Marzhecki (Sergei) 7 November 2020 13: 20
                  +3
                  Yes, yes, you Jews are always in the spotlight when it comes to supposedly "your". wink
                  Good demagoguery to breed, tired.
                  1. Binder Offline Binder
                    Binder (Miron) 7 November 2020 15: 29
                    -4
                    Rudeness is not an argument, but only an indicator of your intellectual level.
              2. Tramp1812 Online Tramp1812
                Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 8 November 2020 09: 43
                -1
                Quote: Marzhetsky
                Quote: Bindyuzhnik
                given by the British to the French administration in Damascus

                Do you understand what you have just written?

                Your question is rhetorical. But I will answer.
                The binder understands. Because in the subject. The Golan Heights, as a result of the defeat of Turkey in the First World War, were to become part of Israel on the basis of the decisions of the Conference in San Remo and LN. Britain received a mandate from the LN to prepare the conditions for the re-creation of Israel. The Golan land was completely redeemed in this regard by the Zionist fund, there is a deed of sale. LN decisions on territorial issues are prohibited from being reviewed by the UN, it unconditionally recognizes them.
                Great Britain, without the consent of the LN, illegally transferred the Golan to France, which, leaving the Golan, was the newly formed and never existed Syria. This is the first thing. Israel annexed not all of the Golan Heights, but part of them, part of them returned, including their administrative center El Quneitru. Golan with Mount Hermon - overhanging Israel. From them, Syria, until 1967, constantly fired at Israel. In this way . Golan, legally illegally transferred to Syria. This is the first and the second.
                The issue of the security of Israel, which has been at war since 1948 with the aggressor Syria, is a priority. Third. Today, the de facto territory of the former Syria does not exist within its internationally recognized borders. According to various estimates, the Assad regime controls up to 60% of the territory. The rest is various political groups and groups, Turkey (10 thousand square kilometers including Hatway), Kurds. Now compare those scanty ones, about 600 sq. km. its own Israeli territory, the Golan.
        2. sgrabik Offline sgrabik
          sgrabik (Sergei) 7 November 2020 11: 11
          +2
          This is already interesting, but what is it that only Russia is trying to expand its zones of influence in the world, or other states pursuing an even tougher and more unprecedented policy, do not bother you and you "do not breathe evenly" only with respect to Russia ???
      2. Tramp1812 Online Tramp1812
        Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 8 November 2020 10: 13
        -1
        Because everything in this world is interconnected. And the strengthening, or, on the contrary, weakening, of the positions of Azerbaijan, and, accordingly, Iran, depends on the outcome of the conflict in Karabakh. Trying to destabilize the situation on Israel's northern borders. The Azerbaijani diaspora in Iran is Tehran's weak point. It is no coincidence that Baku expressed its intention to even rename its country, emphasizing in the new name the absence of its territorial integrity. Since part of its territories, according to Baku, is located in Iran. If Israel's conflict with Iran enters a critical phase, then it is the territory of Azerbaijan that can be used against Iran. After Biden's victory, the situation became even more confusing. That unconditional support for Israel by the states of the Trump administration may not exist. Think back to the Obama presidency. Again, Turkey. And Israel's relations with it on the one hand - Azerbaijan on the other. Look at how the Palestinians got excited after Trump's defeat. This is east. For the first time in modern history, a number of very wealthy Arab countries have normalized relations with Israel. Five more states are next in line. But events in the United States could change everything. Therefore, of course, Israel is interested in what is happening in Karabakh. And how!
        A counter question to you. Explain, if you deem it necessary, of course, your interest in a piece of Israeli land in the Golan. And the position of the Russian Federation in the conflict must be flexible. What Moscow is trying to demonstrate. The defeat of Armenia and the victory of Azerbaijan should be dosed, not unequivocal. This, in my subjective opinion, is the basis of the RF policy at the present time. And the matter will not be limited to Karabakh. If Stepanakert is recognized by Azerbaijan, Armenia could concede a part of equal territories to create a corridor to Azerbaijan with the enclave of Nakhichevan. But these are all distant and most importantly hypothetical prospects. In the meantime, the Russian Federation, in my opinion, is interested in strengthening the defense of Karabakh proper. Without direct participation in battles. There is no objective information on this, I believe neither you nor me. One can only guess. Desirable without emotion.
  7. Bakht Offline Bakht
    Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 6 November 2020 18: 17
    +1
    Nagorno-Karabakh is one step away from defeat, which will have extremely grave political consequences for Armenia and the entire Transcaucasus as a whole.

    I believe that the consequences for Armenia will be catastrophic. But why will there be "severe political consequences for the Transcaucasus"? I don't understand this. Will the author be able to explain what the consequences will be?
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 7 November 2020 08: 03
      +2
      Quote: Bakht
      I don't understand this. Will the author be able to explain what the consequences will be?

      In a nutshell: Turkey and its military will come there ..
      1. Binder Offline Binder
        Binder (Miron) 7 November 2020 08: 26
        -5
        The situation is exactly the opposite - Turkey will come there if the Azerbaijanis are defeated, which is definitely not happening yet.
        1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
          Marzhecki (Sergei) 7 November 2020 08: 29
          +2
          this is just your Israeli "special" view. Turkey will come there anyway. that's how it will be
          1. Binder Offline Binder
            Binder (Miron) 7 November 2020 08: 52
            -6
            And this is your "special" Russian view. And, unfortunately, it is far from being objective.
            1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
              Marzhecki (Sergei) 7 November 2020 08: 57
              +1
              Quote: Bindyuzhnik
              And this is your "special" Russian view. And, unfortunately, it is far from being objective.

              Well, that's not for you to decide. The criterion of truth is reality. I will definitely return to this topic when the Turks open their bases in Azerbaijan. Let's talk again.
              1. Binder Offline Binder
                Binder (Miron) 7 November 2020 09: 02
                -5
                Why, in your opinion, is the Russian base in Armenia good and the Turkish base in Azerbaijan bad?
                1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
                  Marzhecki (Sergei) 7 November 2020 10: 58
                  0
                  This is bad for the national interests of Russia, of which I am a citizen. To the best of my modest strength, I defend the interests of my country, as I see them.
                  1. Binder Offline Binder
                    Binder (Miron) 7 November 2020 12: 53
                    -4
                    Quote: Marzhetsky
                    This is bad for Russia's national interests

                    However, nat. interests of other states and neither you, nor even Mr. Putin can prevent Azerbaijan and Turkey from coming to an agreement on the placement of a Turkish base on Azerbaijani territory.
                    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
                      Marzhecki (Sergei) 7 November 2020 12: 58
                      0
                      Quite right. That is why I say that this is how it will end.
        2. sgrabik Offline sgrabik
          sgrabik (Sergei) 7 November 2020 10: 55
          +2
          Turkey is already there, she is a participant in this military confrontation on the side of Azerbaijan and there is no need to pretend that this is not so !!!
      2. Bakht Offline Bakht
        Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 7 November 2020 08: 31
        -1
        In a nutshell - Turkey and its military will come here only in one case. If the sovereignty of Azerbaijan is threatened. The elimination of the Karabakh conflict on the basis of international law will mean calm in the South Caucasus.
        Take a look at this problem from this point of view
        1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
          Marzhecki (Sergei) 7 November 2020 08: 35
          +1
          Quote: Bakht
          In a nutshell - Turkey and its military will come here only in one case. If the sovereignty of Azerbaijan is threatened.

          This is a very "authoritative" opinion. You have been heard. When Turkish military bases appear in Azerbaijan, we will return to this topic and I will remind you of your words.
          ____________
          The elimination of the Karabakh conflict on the basis of international law will mean calm in the South Caucasus.
          ____________
          Substitute concepts. Turkey does not set a goal of calmness in the South Caucasus, therefore, there will be no calmness.
        2. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
          Marzhecki (Sergei) 7 November 2020 10: 56
          -1
          Quote: Bakht
          The elimination of the Karabakh conflict on the basis of international law will mean calm in the South Caucasus.
          Take a look at this problem from this point of view

          Bakhtiyar, be consistent. The elimination of the DPR and LPR by military means by Ukraine will also solve the problem on the Russian border, won't it?
          1. Bakht Offline Bakht
            Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 7 November 2020 12: 41
            +1
            These are completely different conflicts. Azerbaijan does not pursue a Russophobic policy. The Russian language is not prohibited in Azerbaijan. There are either 20 or 30 Russian channels functioning in Azerbaijan. True, they are paid, but there are no free ones, even Turkish ones. You understand capitalism. Azerbaijan does not plan to deploy foreign bases on its territory. Azerbaijan and Russia have long-term plans for economic cooperation. One North-South route gives Russia much more dividends than all of the above. This logistic route gives Russia access to the Indian Ocean bypassing the Bosphorus and Suez. What else do you want to compare?

            Be consistent. Armenia is leaving early to the West. The last two years have been growing at an ever faster pace. If Karabakh remains with Armenia, then Turkish bases will appear here. If he returns to Azerbaijan, then calm will come in the South Caucasus.
            I can repeat what I have always said. The main destabilizing factor in the South Caucasus is the state pursuing an expansionist policy of ethnic cleansing. And the capture of foreign territories. This state is called Armenia.
            There are no fighters from Syria here. There are militants from Kurdistan. And there is Azerbaijan, friendly to you. Do you dislike I. Aliyev? I can say that if you remove it, you will like the next one even less. If you don't want neutral Azerbaijan, you will get hostile. Everything is simple to disgrace.
            1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
              Marzhecki (Sergei) 7 November 2020 13: 02
              0
              Demagoguery of the purest water.
              Since when did Azerbaijan become friendly to Russia? Because Putin and Aliyev are two pair of boots? Baku is already Ankara, Turkey is a historical enemy of Russia. Who is my enemy's friend?
              About Karabakh: its return to Azerbaijan will not bring peace, it will be the beginning of the ethnic cleansing of Armenians-2. Turkish bases will appear there anyway. If you listen to Bakhtiyar's advice and let Baku deal with Yerevan to the end, NATO bases may eventually appear in Armenia.
              PS
              I'm tired of all. The discussion is over. Personally, I understand everything with you.
              1. Bakht Offline Bakht
                Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 7 November 2020 13: 26
                +2
                I also understand everything with you. I agree that the discussion ended before it began.
                Armenia will go to the West anyway.
                And Azerbaijan has never been an enemy of Russia and is not under the influence of Turkey.
                Your mistake lies in not recognizing this fact.
                And one more mistake - Azerbaijan is NOT going to "deal with Armenia". Azerbaijan ensures the implementation of 4 UN Security Council resolutions.
  8. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 6 November 2020 20: 15
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    It is not necessary to prevent Azerbaijan from occupying Karabakh, this solves several problems - peace in this region of the Caucasus, the lesson of Armenia, which left Russia for the United States, the strengthening of the Russian alliance by Turkey, a lesson for Georgia in the future. For the Russian Federation, everything is going right. and do not interfere. Of course, if the half-Jewish half-Armenian S. Lavrov and others do not go otherwise ...
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 7 November 2020 08: 10
      +1
      Quote: Vladimir Tuzakov
      It is not necessary to prevent Azerbaijan from occupying Karabakh, this solves several problems - peace in this region of the Caucasus, the lesson of Armenia, which left Russia for the United States, the strengthening of the Russian alliance by Turkey, a lesson for Georgia in the future.

      1. After such a lesson, Armenia will leave Russia to those who are capable of ensuring its real security.
      2. After the victory in Karabakh, the Turkish military will come to Transcaucasia and Ankara will continue to expand its influence in Central Asia. And the terrorists deployed there will not go anywhere, they will be used by Erdogan to destabilize the Russian south and neighboring Iran. This is preparation for a future war, not peace.
      3. What kind of alliance between Russia and Turkey, please?
      4. Lesson from Georgia? She will once again be convinced that she did the right thing by leaving the Kremlin for NATO.
      1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 7 November 2020 11: 07
        +1
        Answer. M.Sergey:
        1 Armenia has already gone under the United States and the Russian language has been removed from everywhere, and in the media it is banned, the people are already almost treated in an anti-Russian spirit .. There is nothing to lose, so you need to teach an object lesson. The security of Armenia is already the concern of its owner, the United States, to make this understand ...
        2. In the Transcaucasus, the United States has settled down thoroughly - as a result, Georgia is anti-Russian and pro-Western. Turkey will push the US out of the Caucasus, and Turkey is a less powerful adversary, especially in relation to non-Muslim countries. In the future, they themselves will ask for the RF.
        3. Turkey, in its political moves, has become an enemy of many, and the enemy of my enemy, my friend ... All the more, good relations need to be maintained with a neighbor, that friendship began under the Bolsheviks, but the Anglo-Saxons, especially Germany, understood the significance of such an alliance, and made every effort to tear Turkey from Russia and make it an enemy, which has been happening throughout the last century ...
        4. Georgia is already under the pressure of Turkey, and the West does not help here, only Russia is nearby and can help withstand the pressure of Turkey. This will slowly but surely come to the rulers of Georgia ... Politics, business in the category of old, long. Already today N. Pashinyan rushes about and announces a change in policy towards Russia. no need to rush, let him fully realize, there is nowhere to go ...
        1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
          Marzhecki (Sergei) 7 November 2020 11: 10
          -1
          Listen, this is all the reasoning at the level of 2014 about Ukraine. Not tired of jumping on a rake?
          1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 7 November 2020 11: 14
            +1
            There is no need to confuse completely different situations and subjects, Ukraine does not have a Muslim giant at its side, threatening its spiritual foundations, and so on ... And re-read the answers posted earlier, you will understand something ...
            1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
              Marzhecki (Sergei) 7 November 2020 11: 16
              -1
              Quote: Vladimir Tuzakov
              And re-read the answers posted earlier more carefully, you will understand something ...

              Oh, but where should I go. Here some academics, geopoliticians and generalissimo gathered. I wash my hands.
              1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 7 November 2020 13: 31
                +1
                Do not be offended, positions and titles are deserved and not deserved, here arguments and statements do not have labels ... Therefore, answer with your arguments, and if you have pressed your pride a little, then excuse me ...
  9. Cherokez x Offline Cherokez x
    Cherokez x (Cherokez X) 6 November 2020 20: 26
    0
    Karabakh belongs to Azerbaijan.
    Turkey is not our enemy because of its inability to cope with the Russian army.
    Armenians are genetically more Turkic than the Turks themselves (scientific evidence is more than three cars).
    Russia has no friends except its army and navy. All have betrayed Russia at least once.
    Karabakh is not our war. But the missiles must be aimed in that direction.
    All who support aggression against Russia should be covered with a rocket salvo.)))
    I am for the truth. It's simple.
    The world is the world. War - ...
    1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 6 November 2020 20: 36
      +4
      You don't need to take a lot of psychotropic drugs, or you don't need to speak after the appointment (and in the comments), otherwise, call an ambulance and grab a humble one in addition, just in case, but in fact, stupid things are published on other sites, they made a wrong number (although a pro-Israel motive shines in the nonsense) .. ...
      1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 7 November 2020 15: 40
        +1
        Addition. My statement was Cherokee X of a completely different content, now it has been replaced by another. There are no comments on this last content, almost everything is correct ...
    2. sgrabik Offline sgrabik
      sgrabik (Sergei) 7 November 2020 10: 59
      -1
      What an absurd nonsense, that he apparently accepted something and his consciousness became clouded !!!
  10. boriz Offline boriz
    boriz (boriz) 6 November 2020 21: 11
    +3
    So it seems they have already intervened. UAVs stopped flying over NK, as if suddenly. No wonder 2 Il 76 flew there immediately after the start of the conflict.
    Plus time for training. Electronic warfare is not a Kalashnikov assault rifle. And if for 3 years they had not been galloping around the Maidans, and had not hoped for the United States, and had not trampled on Russian flags, then the war would have looked different.
  11. Peter rybak Offline Peter rybak
    Peter rybak (Patrol) 6 November 2020 22: 11
    -1
    Now what? Russia to send troops to the territory of Azerbaijan? What is it like? Technically, only DRGs on airplanes. The question is, who will provide the air corridor? None. Don't be hysterical. At the moment, Russia has taken the most correct position. She does not retreat a single step from her obligations. She is not obliged to fight on anyone's side. Armenians and Azerbaijanis will figure it out themselves. And in any war there is always a winner, there is a loser. In 1994, no one offered to send troops to help Azerbaijan.
    By the most rough estimate, of the journalists "drowning" for Arm. you can collect two or three squads and send them to fight on the side of Armenia.
    1. boriz Offline boriz
      boriz (boriz) 6 November 2020 22: 56
      +4
      Why journalists? There are 2 million Armenians in Russia.
    2. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 7 November 2020 08: 16
      +1
      Quote: Peter Rybak
      By the most rough estimate, of the journalists "drowning" for Arm. you can collect two or three squads and send them to fight on the side of Armenia.

      1) Nobody here drowns for Armenia, only for the national interests of Russia.
      2) The article does not say about the sending of troops, it DIRECTLY says about the supply of weapons to Armenia and ONLY about it. Learn to read carefully before scribbling comments.
      3) Will you, the guards, ever settle down with your seemingly witty, but in fact moronic call to send someone to fight INSTEAD of the army?
  12. cooper Offline cooper
    cooper (Alexander) 7 November 2020 01: 38
    +4
    Russia is absolutely not obliged to harness for the Armenians in Karabakh. The territory of Armenia proper is not being attacked and will not be attacked (thanks to Russia). Armenia - to throw out with a bang all the suckers led by the odious Pashinyan and tearfully repent for the recent rampant street and other rabid Russophobia in the country.
  13. Rus Offline Rus
    Rus 7 November 2020 15: 53
    -3
    Of course dofiga money, you can help everyone!
  14. Bakht Offline Bakht
    Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 7 November 2020 19: 17
    +1
    The victory of the Azerbaijani army in Nagorno-Karabakh will bring peace to the peoples when borders are restored and clarity is brought to the region, Russian expert Andrei Ivanov told Vesti.az.

    https://vesti.az/armiya/situaciya-na-fronte-poka-skladyvaetsya-vpolne-v-sootvetstvii-s-planami-azerbajdzhana-vzglyad-so-storony-421519