Why communism is in vain called a utopia

November 2, 2020 27

The modern world finds itself in such a difficult situation that even ardent supporters of capitalism recognize the need to change the existing economic systems. At the same time, communism, which could solve all pressing problems, is still called a utopia.
However, to understand the inconsistency of such statements, it is enough to answer a few questions.

Is communism an ideal society?

The means of production in the hands of the working people, the absence of unemployment, free education and medicine are all inherent in the communist system. However, this does not mean that there are no problems in such a society. For example, the principle: from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs is a contradiction between the growth of those very needs and the existing scientific and technical the possibilities of society. However, all this can be overcome due to the absence of class hatred that torments modern society.

Is human nature getting in the way of building communism?

The above argument is most often used by capitalists as a tool to once again disunite people by imposing the principle: man is a wolf to man. At the same time, qualities such as collectivism, sincerity and a sense of justice, which at one time allowed humanity to survive, for some reason are not mentioned. But it was on them that Soviet society rested, proving that there was no human nature recorded at the level of genetics. People interact with the world with the help of consciousness, which is formed only in society.

Is communism an egalitarianism?

Here we will again return to the principle: from each according to his ability, to each according to his work. The so-called "leveling" in a socialist society is not a disregard for the physical and spiritual abilities of people, but only social and economic equality. In particular, equal access to work on social means of production, an equal obligation for all to work, and a uniform principle of remuneration for work for all.

Are there no preconditions for communism?

High technologies, which in our time have significantly increased the potential of production, should have solved the problems of poverty and social inequality long ago. But in reality the situation has only worsened, since this instrument is in the hands of the capitalists and contributes exclusively to their enrichment.

In addition, the regular crises of overproduction inherent in capitalism regularly push millions of people to the brink of survival. Such a situation is increasingly pushing humanity towards completely new production and economic relations, in particular, the transfer of the means of production into public ownership.

And finally, the main question.

Does the fall of the USSR mean that communism is a utopia?

It would seem that the collapse of the Soviet Union gave the capitalists an undeniable argument in favor of the failure of communism. However, in reality, the first defeat of the communists was due to completely objective reasons: the technical and cultural backwardness of the country, the predominance of the peasantry and the remnants of past formations, mistakes of the party leadership and, of course, oppression from international capital.

At the same time, all of the above does not prove the utopian nature of communism, but only indicates the difficulties that may arise in the process of its construction. In addition, the history of mankind knows more than one example of the restoration of the old order after revolutions.

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passing by

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2 November 2020 17: 40

and what has already been invented a new type of lobotomy that will turn a person into an ant? so that he would build an anthill for a lump of sugar and serve the uterus (party)?
1. zenion
  
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  2 November 2020 18: 07
  
  The transformation of a person into an ant occurs when a person stops using their brains and uses the upper part to eat and listen to orders from the leader. If it was possible to make a dog lover from the most progressive country in Europe, Germany, then it is much easier to make a smarter country. It is a pity that there are many passing by who throw burning matches at gas stations.
  1. passing by
    
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    2 November 2020 18: 25
    
    Something from the Ukrainian Kaganate to a smarter country did not work ... and the Armenian Khanate is still looking for a new owner. it is a pity that there are still many lumpen, dreaming of draining the "free" gasoline from the collective farm gas station into their Zaporozhets. The Ukrainians did not forget about their identity while choking on bacon at the expense of the Russians who were selflessly building communism. only the Russians ceased to be Russians and became faceless proletarians. on the other hand, they scattered lands and gold reserves in order to remove the baboon from the donkey and teach him to speak.
Oleg Rambover

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2 November 2020 22: 30

The means of production in the hands of the workers

How does the author imagine this? Were the means of production in the hands of the working people in the USSR? Obviously not. They were in the hands of the nomenklatura, the capitalists of the Soviet formation. That is, by and large, in the USSR, some capitalists were replaced by others. And since the Soviet nomenklatura was not a full-fledged owner of the means of production, it did not have sufficient incentives to be effective. This is the main reason for the collapse of the USSR. The transfer of the means of production to the rule of the nomenclature is the Achilles heel of communism, which it is not clear how to overcome.

Is human nature getting in the way of building communism?

to once again separate people by imposing the principle: man is a wolf to man.

It is not true.

from each according to his ability, to each according to his work

This is a socialist slogan. Communist sounds: Each according to his ability, to each according to his needs. And since human needs are unlimited (human nature), modern civilization will not be able to satisfy them.

Are there no preconditions for communism?

The situation is actually improving every year. Hunger affects fewer and fewer people. If there are prerequisites for communism, then only in the evolution of capitalism, and not as in its crisis.

However, in reality, the first defeat of the communists was due to completely objective reasons: the technical and cultural backwardness of the country, the predominance of the peasantry and the remnants of past formations, mistakes of the party leadership and, of course, oppression by international capital.

Since the 50s, the USSR has not been "a technically and culturally backward country, the predominance of the peasantry and vestiges of past formations." The USSR exhausted its sources of growth (extensive) and was unable to move to intensive growth.
1. boriz
  
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  3 November 2020 16: 45
  
  "If there are preconditions for communism, then only in the evolution of capitalism"
  
  Capitalism ended as a development model. He's gone. What we are seeing now is agony.
  
  "The situation is actually improving every year. Hunger affects fewer and fewer people."
  
  A year will not pass and you yourself will be uncomfortable for these words. And you will look for the excuse "yes, it's all damn covid!" Covid was invented for this.
  
  "And since the Soviet nomenklatura was not a full-fledged owner of the means of production, it did not have sufficient incentives to be effective."
  
  It is not true. They were responsible for specific indicators. They knew very well that they were following on their heels by the younger ones, who would go over their heads.
  And you simply cannot imagine the difference between that nomenclature and the current "capitalists". The current ones simply cannot be effective. I looked at both those and others.
  The real decay started with Khrushchev. Andropov tried to regain real responsibility at all levels, but, somehow, suspiciously died on time. Despite the fact that there was nothing wrong with his health.
  The then nomenclature was replaceable, they were managers with the means of production.
  And what began in the 90s simply defies description and understanding.
  If interested, on the website of M.L. Khazin. the guys are working, raising documents on those cases (the statute of limitations has not passed) and persistently untwisting with strict documentation. Khazin is not an ordinary person, he did it for a reason (for his own money). For example, the last video.
  
  https://aurora.network/articles/150-rassledovanija/85360-my-vosstanovim-spravedlivost-matveev-khazin-ivanov
  
  I was shocked by an earlier investigation into how Moscow (those behind the Moscow government) threw the security forces on 225 square meters. m of housing. Search their topic for "State Investigation".
  They work quietly, without PR, for the result.
  And you will understand what the "effective managers" did. Golny thief, except how to steal nothing.
  1. Oleg Rambover
    
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    4 November 2020 01: 03
    
    Quote: boriz
    Capitalism ended as a development model. He's gone. What we are seeing now is agony.
    
    They say this for 100 years, if not 150. Until there is no alternative, capitalism will not end.
    
    Quote: boriz
    A year will not pass and you yourself will be uncomfortable for these words. And you will look for the excuse "yes, it's all damn covid!" Covid was invented for this.
    
    There were crises before, there were epidemics, the world and capitalism survived all this.
    
    Quote: boriz
    It is not true. They were responsible for specific indicators. They knew very well that they were following on their heels by the younger ones, who would go over their heads.
    
    Efficiency was not ranked first among the metrics.
    
    Quote: boriz
    And you simply cannot imagine the difference between that nomenclature and the current "capitalists". The current ones simply cannot be effective. I looked at both those and others.
    
    In the nineties, more often than not, “that” nomenklatura and “capitalists” were the same people. Derbanila of the USSR is precisely the Soviet nomenclature. I have been to former Soviet factories and to "capitalist" ones. It is night and day.
    
    Quote: boriz
    The real decay started with Khrushchev.
    
    It's not about Khrushchev. The USSR has exhausted the source of its growth and began its path to collapse.
    
    Quote: boriz
    And what began in the 90s simply defies description and understanding.
    
    No one argues that the "wild" capitalism of the 90s or the monopoly capitalism of today's RF is its worst variant. That's what the state needs to do to limit the wishes of the capitalists.
    1. boriz
      
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      4 November 2020 01: 57
      
      Capitalism, as a development model, works only in expanding markets, as Marx and Adam Smith wrote about this. After 1991 markets have nowhere to expand. The markets of the collapsed socialist camp were mastered in the early 2000s. Everything. This is, as it were, a common place, no one argues. Putin has already said this publicly.
      You were not taught the political economy of Marx, you are forgiven.
      To broaden your horizons, read Khazin "Recollection of the Future". Many letters, but accessible and intelligible.
      1. Oleg Rambover
        
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        6 November 2020 00: 29
        
        Quote: boriz
        Capitalism, as a development model, works only in expanding markets, as Marx and Adam Smith wrote about this.
        
        Capitalism works in any markets, it feels better in expanding ones. Market expansion is not necessarily a geographic concept. People's needs are endless and markets can expand due to increased consumption in already "occupied" regions. To ensure the growth of consumption, a loan was invented. Now perhaps this scheme has exhausted itself, so there was talk of compulsory income. Most importantly, there is no sane alternative to capitalism.
        
        Quote: boriz
        Putin spoke about it publicly.
        
        Putin is still an economist.
        
        Quote: boriz
        To broaden your horizons, read Khazin
        
        Khazin is a kind of person, he believes in all sorts of conspiracies. I do not believe.
2. BMP-2
  
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  4 December 2020 04: 31
  
  Quote: Oleg Rambover
  human needs are limitless
  
  This is not true. Desires can be unlimited, but needs are oh-oh-very limited: a person cannot eat more food than his stomach holds (1-3 liters), cannot watch films and other works of art more than 24 hours a day, cannot create in more than one area at the same time - but the desire to have more than a person needs, in contrast to the ability to be aware of one's needs, is brought up quickly and easily.
Fourth Horseman

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3 November 2020 05: 07

The author himself does not believe in what he has written in his opus.
Therefore, he was ashamed to indicate his authorship.
Sapsan136

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3 November 2020 13: 58

Communism is a utopia, because one can only strive for an ideal, but achieving it, in fact, is not realistic. As for socialism (social state), it is quite real, and today we see quite successful countries, with developed social guarantees for the population. One of these countries, I would call Saudi Arabia, and the reason for their success lies in the fact that these countries are not trying, with a fool, to feed the whole world, but take good care of their own citizens. Citizenship of these countries is also not distributed to the right and to the left, but the citizens live, like in Christ's bosom. Here you will receive free education, including university, in any country of the World, and medicine and housing for young families and financial support for young parents. The Russian Federation could give its citizens no less, if not more, if it pursued a similar internal and external financial policy, had a similar law on citizenship.
1. Digital error
  
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  3 November 2020 23: 04
  
  Quote: Sapsan136
  trying, with a fool, to feed the whole world, but they take good care of their own citizens
  
  +500 karma. and we have extended covid payments to doctors - so that they do not run away to oil workers. Until the end of 2021 (before the elections to the State Duma, that is), if I remember correctly.
  And then they will look at the economic effect.
Sergey Latyshev

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3 November 2020 15: 33

In fact, it is significant that many successful cap-models are being built with elements of socialism (communism) - the so-called Swedish socialism, Swiss, Arab, etc.

So the name is not the point. And in the rules of the game.
Michael1950

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3 November 2020 23: 51

It would seem that the collapse of the Soviet Union gave the capitalists an undeniable argument in favor of the failure of communism. However, in reality, the first defeat of the communists was due to completely objective reasons: the technical and cultural backwardness of the country, the predominance of the peasantry and the remnants of past formations, mistakes of the party leadership and, of course, oppression from international capital.

- But why only the Soviet Union ?! And the GDR? And the Hungarian People's Republic? And Czechoslovakia? And the CPP? And the NRB? And the SFRY ?! And Vietnam ?! And China - is he building communism ?! From Cuba, a third of the population fled to Florida by swimming.
Only in the DPRK is true communism built according to the Juche ideas. All the rats and frogs have already been eaten ...
Oleg Bratkov

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6 November 2020 09: 19

Communism was, is, and will be the basic, basic condition for human existence, until we are grown in test tubes on a conveyor belt, and women are forbidden to give birth.
Because the family is communism. From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs! Here is a child, a baby, he can only eat mother's milk, pee and poop. But he gets fresh diapers, food, warmth and love from his parents. That's when he will be able to do something on his own, then he will make his own contribution, including supporting his old people. And that is why the family is being destroyed in the Rotten West. There mom-dad is replaced by a parent, while both "parents" are male, and how they can give birth to an adopted child is unknown. Therefore, there is legalized prostitution, because a healthy, normal family gives birth to the idea of communism every second, and the West, like a cesspool of capitalism, is trying to destroy it ... And in Israel, there is nothing like this, there are communes, kibbutzim are called, that is, you can live in communism not one family, and two, ten, hundreds of households at once. The Slavs lived in clans earlier; other nationalities had such settlements with different names. The old people really could not do anything, but they helped with their advice, and many years of life experience ... But how to make exploitation in the ancestral settlement, how to make everyone work for the prince? No way, that's why the tribal-type settlements were destroyed. The next step is the destruction of the family ... or capitalism, your choice. )))
1. magma
  
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  7 November 2020 11: 09
  
  Sound reasoning. Sensibly written
2. anten
  
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  23 January 2021 00: 36
  
  This is the only correct idea of the family as a cell of communism. On the reasons for the destruction of the family in the west.
Oleg von Borkow der Zweite

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8 November 2020 11: 55

This Reporter article is correct because it is correct! Forward comrades!
Anton Sibiryak

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26 December 2020 15: 02

The fall of the pseudo.sssr speaks only of the fact that there was no Socialism as such, as well as the Soviet power, which was only a "screen" for the cover of the communist dictatorship.
Anatoly Lavrov

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8 January 2021 12: 00

Author, please do not confuse socialism with communism. In the USSR they were just going to build communism, where each according to his needs. And so the article is good, smart! Lenin said that any revolution is worth something if it can defend itself. Yes, now it has suffered a temporary defeat because it has forgotten this behest of the leader of the world proletariat. There are external enemies, and there are also internal ones.
al tu

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18 January 2021 16: 55

The idea of communism will never die. Compared to the idea of capitalism, this idea is closer to man because of social justice. But the grain is different. Man appeared on planet Earth for a reason. Human opportunities on Earth are very great. What animals, insects, bacteria and other living creatures can leave behind apart from decomposed remains is nothing. And a person is able to create in the physical plane: to cultivate the earth, sharpen stone, build dams, hydroelectric power plants, nuclear power plants, spaceships, create a society that can build more and better. Except for man, nobody and nothing can create in the space of the Earth. And if we take into account the observations of spacecraft observing the sun, where there are some possible "spaceships" carrying out some work with our star, and other facts of the presence of extraterrestrial intelligence on other planets, the question arises, and why is man on Earth? Maybe in order to correct any negative impacts on the planet? And in order to carry out any work on a planetary level, it is necessary to create a society that is able to perform such work. And only a society of social justice, that is, a communist one, can do this.
1. isofat
  
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  18 January 2021 18: 13
  
  al tu... Nobody argues with you, you just don't start revolutions ahead of time, learn something. For example, as a presidential candidate must correctly declare his income.
  
  The people will vote for you right away. Take a seat at the wheel and we will fly ... to a bright future. It would also be nice if you studied the course. Yes!
  
  But only this after we all believe you that you can handle it and won't ruin us.
  1. al tu
    
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    4 February 2021 10: 35
    
    I do not belong to the leaders of any parties or movements. I think I found the answer that torments everyone - "why did we come here on Earth." According to the Christian religion, God created man in his own image and likeness. But why are there so many similarities? More than seven billion of your copies, for what, for what purposes? And why on the outskirts of our galaxy? And what about courses - this is how scientific communism took place in 1978. There are many questions and no ultimate goal. This is the science of the development of society and not the development of an ultimate goal. Here is one example - the planet Earth has a protective dome 600 km from the planet, it protects us from rough cosmic radiation, above it is the Van Allen belt, and other planets of our solar system do not have such domes. Over there, the Americans are going to create such a protection on Mars that they would master it. There are thoughts that our dome was created by previous civilizations.
  2. al tu
    
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    4 February 2021 10: 54
    
    I made a mistake - the protective dome is located at an altitude of 4000 km.
2. anten
  
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  23 January 2021 00: 43
  
  Everything that a person creates on Earth is only for himself, and no one else. Eats animals, grows edible monocultures. pumps out natural resources, covers the earth with asphalt, railways, houses and other objects, smokes into the atmosphere, litters the earth with waste ... and talks a lot about environmental degradation.
Alexander Mirimov

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21 January 2021 02: 23

And who proved that they are * in vain * called? The whole camp is social. European countries collapsed, socialism is more likely to be found among the Scandinavians, but without claims to communism. Western countries live and cope for hundreds of years in all crises. North Korean variants, etc. something is not visible, who is seduced. There is a utopia of pure water. People are always and everywhere oriented towards profit, no matter how they understand it, towards private property, towards more or less fair wages for labor, but in no way towards nomenclature distribution from the state. benefactors, on the separation of powers and the right to choose, albeit not perfect, but nothing is ideal. What is in favor of communism, which no one has ever seen, and the experience of forced socialization and partocracy is already familiar .. What are the doubts and who has it? The author of the post ?? So one should think, not invent.
1. isofat
  
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  21 January 2021 02: 31
  
  You are wrong, I lived under socialism.