“And if the USSR had fought on the side of Hitler” - reflections in the Croatian media


Everyone knows the real history of World War II. Then the Third Reich fought against the Western allies and Moscow, and eventually lost. In an alternative version, we want to find out what would have happened if the USSR had fought on Hitler's side. Could the countries of the Nazi bloc with the help of the Soviet superpower win, they are interested in a video published on the YouTube channel Binkov's Battlegrounds (Croatia). Croatian media are trying to consider the kind of situation that would have happened if the USSR had fought not against Nazi Germany, but on its side.


First of all, such an alliance would require great sympathy between the Germans and the Soviet people. It's hard to imagine, so let's just assume that this is so, because the USSR and Germany before the start of the war were economic and militarytechnical cooperation. Therefore, the partition of Poland in 1939 will be considered a starting point, which became a confirmation of the agreements on the division of spheres of influence in the world between Moscow and Berlin.

In reality, the USSR and Germany were hampered by some disagreements. Each of the countries hoped to subjugate the Middle East and the Balkans. In addition, the Nazis generally did not perceive the Slavs as people. But in our alternative reality, we will miss such trifles and pretend that Hitler and Stalin came to an understanding. Let's also assume that the USSR and Japan began to trust each other and also agreed on a number of issues.


After that, the USSR defeats Finland and takes the next step. At the end of 1940, the Red Army invades Iran in order to subjugate the entire country, and not just the northern part, as it was in real history, when the USSR and Great Britain divided it.

At this time, Germany is conducting an offensive in the Balkans, but in 1941 Soviet troops join the Wehrmacht. Bulgaria lets the Red Army go to Greece. Berlin and Moscow agree that Bulgaria and part of Romania will withdraw from the USSR. But the Germans get all of Yugoslavia.

Since the Germans no longer have an "eastern front", they can free up large forces to occupy North Africa. By April 1941, the USSR took control of all of Iran. The Red Army concentrates on the border with Iraq and begins the invasion. Great Britain sends troops to Syria and Lebanon. The war between London and Moscow is becoming inevitable. Turkey remains neutral.

Britain declares war on the USSR, hoping it will encourage the United States to enter the war. But Washington chose an isolationist policies... At the same time, Moscow and Berlin begin to plan a "battle for Britain". The production of ships and aircraft is increasing in the USSR and Germany. On the other side of the planet, Japan is at war with China.

By 1942, thanks to the enormous resources of the USSR, Germany is overtaking Britain in aircraft production. At the same time, the United States is beginning to help Britain. But since Germany and the USSR did not begin to fight with each other, they retained millions of soldiers and an incredible amount of equipment, which has now become even more. And all this is preparing for the assault on the British Isles.

The Germans take Tobruk in Libya and move in the direction of the Suez Canal, the Italian fleet controls the Mediterranean Sea, and the aviation of the USSR and Germany controls the airspace above it. Britain is still clinging to Egypt, as the loss of the Suez Canal will seriously affect the supply of the metropolis. Gibraltar and Malta under threat of capture. At this time, Japan attacks Pearl Harbor and the United States goes to war. They donate thousands of planes and ships to Great Britain.

In early 1942, Germany invades Malta, and Japan attacks the Pacific Ocean. She conquers the Solomon Islands, New Caledonia, Vanuatu, Fiji, and by the end of 1942 even Samoa.

In the summer of 1942, the battle of El Alamein takes place in North Africa. To prevent Egypt from falling under German control, the United States landed troops in Morocco and began to move through Algeria to Tunisia. Britain manages to hold on to Gibraltar. By the end of 1942, the Wehrmacht was approaching Alexandria, and the USSR took control of Iraq. Great Britain, seeing that Egypt and Syria are doomed, begins to evacuate troops.

Now the supply of the British Isles has deteriorated even more. The German submarine fleet has become much more active and interferes with the transfer of goods across the Atlantic. By this time, the USSR and Germany have created a powerful airborne assault armada and are preparing to launch an invasion of the British Isles, the author sums up in this video, promising a sequel.

Note that all such “alternative stories” and “reflections” of anti-Soviet-Russophobes about the Second World War are not just jokes, but an information weapon aimed at undermining the reputation of the USSR and demonstrating the “alliance of Hitler and Stalin”, as well as against modern Russia.
  • Photos used: Gutjahr / wikimedia.org
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  1. amateur Offline amateur
    amateur (Victor) 1 November 2020 17: 11
    +4
    Croatian media are trying to consider the kind of situation that would have happened if the USSR had fought not against Nazi Germany, but on its side.

    Croatia has probably forgotten that it was she who fought on the side of Hitler. Does he want to be allies?
    1. GRF Offline GRF
      GRF 1 November 2020 18: 05
      +2
      They believed so much in their equalization of Nazism with communism and corruption in our country, that they really think, and not invite us into their ranks for another razderbanivanie world?
      They explain to us that being a murderer is not bad, drawing fantastic perspectives - what will happen if militiamen start working with the murderers? Who will stop the unstoppable?
      We answer - to our proposal to join NATO, NATO sent us and thank God ...
  2. Bakht Offline Bakht
    Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 1 November 2020 18: 10
    +2
    Alternative history is an interesting and entertaining thing. And without the alliance between Germany and the USSR, there were opportunities. The book is not undeniably correct, there are many assumptions, but quite interesting

    http://militera.lib.ru/research/macksey/index.html

    Comrade Krupp, together with Malyshev, would release Tigris tanks soldier
  3. amateur Offline amateur
    amateur (Victor) 1 November 2020 18: 15
    +1
    Quote: Bakht
    Alternative history is an interesting and entertaining thing. And without the alliance between Germany and the USSR, there were opportunities.

    Well then, they all need to read "Blue Salo" by Vl. Sorokin. There is no alternative.
    1. Bakht Offline Bakht
      Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 1 November 2020 18: 22
      +1
      Do not read. I can't say anything. But Maxi is interesting enough. With a claim to reality.
  4. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 1 November 2020 19: 07
    -1
    Brakes ....
    The possibilities of the union have long been sorted out in alternative fiction.
    The topic is not very popular, but there is, there is ...
  5. Binder Offline Binder
    Binder (Miron) 1 November 2020 20: 17
    -4
    Even if we assume that Germany and the USSR would have continued allied relations and would jointly oppose Great Britain and the United States, they would not have been able to successfully resist the military-industrial power, the financial capabilities and scientific potential of the Anglo-Saxons. I believe that in such a speculative version of history the collapse of dictatorial regimes would be inevitable, and atomic bombs would be dropped not only on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but also on Berlin, Hamburg, Moscow, etc. And even if we imagine that in spite of everything the Nazis and Bolsheviks won a victory, then a war between them would inevitably follow - two bears do not live in the same den ...
    1. passing by Offline passing by
      passing by (passing by) 2 November 2020 07: 39
      +1
      atomic bombs in the United States appeared thanks to German developments ...
  6. boriz Offline boriz
    boriz (boriz) 1 November 2020 21: 12
    +3
    Many wrong assumptions.
    The WB planned to attack the USSR in 1940, but only together with France. France was withdrawn from the game by the Germans in June 1940, so there would have been no talk of any attack on the USSR. Most likely, a coup would have taken place in the WB and Edward VIII, known for his sympathies for Hitler, would return to the throne. Or the WB would just sit quietly, like a mouse under a broom and slowly die without supplies from the colonies.
    In order to overcome the resistance of the isolationists and enter the war, Roosevelt needed to provoke Pearl Harbor. And if Germany, the USSR and Japan had come to an agreement, there would have been no point for Japan in fighting the United States. The necessary raw materials (and weapons) would have been provided by the USSR. And Japan would have long and thoughtfully huddled the colonial possessions of the World Bank and France. In this case, the United States would not land anywhere. This was not yet the USA that everyone got used to during the post-war period.
    Well

    ... But the Germans get all of Yugoslavia.

    Actually, the Germans did not have to fight for Yugoslavia. She entered the "Anti-Comintern Pact" 25.03.1941/XNUMX/XNUMX. Only a coup organized by the World Bank and the USSR knocked her out of there. If Germany and the USSR were at the same time, there would be no excesses.
    As for the reputation of the USSR in connection with these virtual assumptions, it is enough to officially and with pomp to announce the long-standing data that the United States and the World Bank brought Hitler to power, in order to unleash WWII. Well, they supplied Hitler with oil products (and much more) during almost the entire war through dummy companies by left routes.
    And the fact that this is not excluded, the Russian Federation has recently hinted. Officially recognizing as genocide the massacres in the village of Zhestyanaya Gorka, Pskov region in 1942-43.
    The first reaction of the West was already very nervous.

    http://k-politika.ru/yashhik-pandory-otkryt-rar-o-reshenii-suda-po-genocidu-sovetskogo-naroda/?utm_source=politobzor.net

    Well, of course, some goyim are equated with God's chosen people! Also pay them?
  7. EMMM Offline EMMM
    EMMM 4 November 2020 22: 56
    +1
    Ravings of a madman,
    What if China, in alliance with Japan, attacked the United States in 1941?