Expert: Having lost the Bosphorus, Russia will return Crimea to Ukraine within a week


According to Yunus Erdogdu, a Turkish opposition journalist living in Ukraine, Recep Erdogan is not against the annexation of Crimea to Turkey, as it was during the Ottoman Empire - this can be achieved by blocking the Bosphorus for the Russian Federation. But such actions are fraught with great risk and significant difficulties for Ankara. The journalist told about this in his interview to the Kiev Internet newspaper "Strana".


According to Erdogdu, in Turkey, many consider Crimea to be Turkish territory, but Erdogan's words about the peninsula are nothing more than populism designed for nationalists. He is not averse to appropriating Crimea, and the Turkish authorities have a definite strategy in relation to this territory. However, trying to defend its interests in the region, Ankara is forced to maneuver between Moscow and Kiev.

Why not close the Bosphorus to Russian military and commercial ships? Closure of straits vital for Russia could return Crimea to Ukraine in a week

- the expert believes, but immediately recognizes Turkey's unwillingness to take such actions due to fear of a tough response from the Kremlin. If the Turks decide to take forceful actions against Russia, they "may lose Istanbul on the way to Crimea."

Erdogdu believes that there are forces in the world for which it is beneficial to embroil Turkey and Russia - the geopolitical interests of influential powers are involved here, seeking to weaken both states.
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  1. Fourth Horseman Offline Fourth Horseman
    Fourth Horseman (Fourth Horseman) 28 October 2020 11: 43
    16
    So Turkey can turn into a radioactive desert.
    I'm an expert too!)
    1. Many_ways_point Offline Many_ways_point
      Many_ways_point 28 October 2020 12: 16
      -27 qualifying.
      So the RF can be burned with thermonuclear bombs. The whole question is the expediency of this madness.
      1. DeGreen Offline DeGreen
        DeGreen 28 October 2020 13: 12
        16
        I think to start with your Ukraine
        1. Vladimir_ Voronov (Vladimir) 28 October 2020 13: 47
          -5
          There are more adequate people on the outskirts.
        2. Many_ways_point Offline Many_ways_point
          Many_ways_point 28 October 2020 14: 03
          -19 qualifying.
          Who is interested in your opinion?

          1. 123 Offline 123
            123 (123) 28 October 2020 15: 00
            +8
            500 billion is for pocket money. The main thing is all the same in Russia, they earn money there and do not want to lose the feeding troughs, because without this the costs will have to be reduced and the kids will have nothing to transfer.
            1. Many_ways_point Offline Many_ways_point
              Many_ways_point 28 October 2020 15: 08
              -8
              Over 25 years, assets totaling at least $ 750 billion were withdrawn from Russia, and this is half of the country's annual GDP, Bloomberg Economics analysts calculated. If these assets were invested in the domestic economy, they could increase the volume of production and budget revenues from taxes that could be spent on infrastructure development and social programs - but instead, most of them went to purchase foreign assets, including and luxury yachts that plow the distant seas.

              In 1994-2018, assets were withdrawn from Russia, the total value of which can currently exceed $ 1 trillion, experts from Bloomberg Economics calculated.

              However, even if we proceed from a more conservative estimate of $ 750 billion due to the fact that the profitability of assets withdrawn offshore may not be too high, the amount is still huge, it is only slightly less than 50% of Russia's annual GDP, analysts emphasize ( in 2018, the GDP of the Russian Federation amounted to about 100 trillion rubles, which at an average annual exchange rate of 62,5 rubles per dollar and gives 1,6 trillion dollars - "NG"). In other words, about three annual budgets of the Russian Federation.

              https://www.ng.ru/economics/2019-03-13/1_7529_money.html

              1. 123 Offline 123
                123 (123) 28 October 2020 15: 17
                +8
                Can't you read? These are pocket expenses laughing Bablischa is not measured. Silently envy. winked

                Brzezinski's tales are of no interest to anyone. He said that Russia is kapets without Ukraine, but life shows otherwise. And so in everything. Would you still quote Jules Verne laughing
                1. Many_ways_point Offline Many_ways_point
                  Many_ways_point 28 October 2020 17: 27
                  -6
                  Can't you read? This is pocket money laughing

                  I can not only read but also think. and I will not accept someone's biased statements on faith.

                  Bablischa is not measured. Silently envy.

                  Real incomes of Russians fell for the fifth year in a row
                  Real incomes of Russians in 2018 decreased by 0,2%, follows from the report of Rosstat. Contrary to government expectations, 2018 was the fifth year of continuous decline in real incomes of the population laughing

                  https://www.rbc.ru/economics/25/01/2019/5c4af2c39a7947badf2d4e74

                  Bablischa is not measured, but incomes are falling, very funny, really laughing
                  1. 123 Offline 123
                    123 (123) 28 October 2020 17: 47
                    +6
                    Real incomes of Russians fell for the fifth year in a row

                    Here is a link for you, select any indicators and show where you have more. smile Moreover, we have sanctions and so on, but you have "the whole world with us" and so on. winked

                    https://rosstat.gov.ru/
                    1. Many_ways_point Offline Many_ways_point
                      Many_ways_point 28 October 2020 18: 03
                      -4
                      Here is a link for you, select any indicators and show where you have more. smile And we have sanctions and so on, but you have "the whole world with us" and so on.

                      And I will not open this nonsense of the manual Kremlin Rosstat. I have enough "middle" class with a salary of 17t.r. a month to evaluate it.
                      Are there any other arguments?
                      1. 123 Offline 123
                        123 (123) 28 October 2020 18: 21
                        +6
                        Are there any other arguments?

                        Arguments? belay What arguments do you need?

                        And I will not open this nonsense of the manual Kremlin Rosstat. I have enough "middle" class with a salary of 17t.r. a month to evaluate it.

                        You do not recognize the official statistics request 17 thousand middle class .. it was written in the "News of Sumeria"?
                        The middle class goes something like this:

                        https://www.rbc.ru/economics/18/06/2018/5b27bf829a794710796bbfe5

                        As for 17 thousand ...

                        In an interview with TASS for the project "20 Questions to Vladimir Putin," he drew attention to the fact that "the middle class is different in every country " and it is wrong to equate the Russian middle class with the standard of living in France, Germany or the United States. Putin noted that according to the World Bank methodology, the middle class includes people whose incomes are one and a half times higher than the minimum wage.
                        "We have a lot of them, more than 70% are confident," the head of state stressed, recalling that the average salary in Russia is much higher than the minimum wage, which was 2019 thousand rubles in 11,28.

                        https://tass.ru/ekonomika/8011405

                        It was just about the method of calculating the IMF and purely technically yes, according to their method, 17 thousand are considered the middle class. So you can read this story on the anniversary ... at Brzezinski's grave. There will be a grateful public winked
                      2. Many_ways_point Offline Many_ways_point
                        Many_ways_point 28 October 2020 20: 01
                        -7
                        It was just about the method of calculating the IMF and purely technically yes, according to their method, 17 thousand are considered the middle class. So you can read this story on the anniversary ... at Brzezinski's grave. There will be a grateful public

                        It will not come in, after the dump it is somehow inconvenient to read.

                        You do not recognize the official statistics request 17 thousand middle class .. did you write it in "News of Sumeria"?
                        The middle class goes something like this:

                        https://www.rbc.ru/economics/18/06/2018/5b27bf829a794710796bbfe5

                        And how does this cancel out the fact that real incomes of the population are falling in the 6th year, and there is a lot of money?
                      3. Fourth Horseman Offline Fourth Horseman
                        Fourth Horseman (Fourth Horseman) 29 October 2020 00: 13
                        +2
                        Selyanen, for payments for a communal apartment, your authorities propose to sell their pets.
                        In 15 years, (in fact, in 5 years), you won't even have pensions.
                        At the request of your same soros!
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                    2. 123 Offline 123
                      123 (123) 29 October 2020 00: 23
                      0
                      It will not come in, after the dump it is somehow inconvenient to read.

                      Is it not convenient for you to read? Mobility .. the letters jump?

                      And how does this cancel out the fact that real incomes of the population are falling in the 6th year, and there is a lot of money?

                      What does income have to do with it? You began to whine that money is being taken out of Russia. will you be like a flea jumping from topic to topic?
                    3. Many_ways_point Offline Many_ways_point
                      Many_ways_point 29 October 2020 10: 26
                      -4
                      Is it not convenient for you to read? Mobility .. the letters jump?

                      Don't judge by yourself. It's a shame just.

                      What does income have to do with it? You began to whine that money is being taken out of Russia. will you be like a flea jumping from topic to topic?

                      Take out. Billions. Voryo. To the west. And that's why incomes are falling.
                    4. 123 Offline 123
                      123 (123) 29 October 2020 11: 48
                      +1
                      You repeat yourself. Besides the beloved "icon" with the dead Polish theoretician, there is nothing more to say? Do you like the "elite"? Take it for yourself.
                    5. Many_ways_point Offline Many_ways_point
                      Many_ways_point 29 October 2020 13: 01
                      -4
                      So what else can you say? Money in the west, families in the same place. Well, will they shoot at them?
                    6. 123 Offline 123
                      123 (123) 29 October 2020 15: 54
                      +1
                      So what else can you say? Money in the west, families in the same place. Well, will they shoot at them?

                      And how yes With great pleasure laughing The military has a family at home, capitalization on the drum and "elite" is not held in high esteem winked
                    7. Many_ways_point Offline Many_ways_point
                      Many_ways_point 29 October 2020 17: 29
                      -4
                      Military robots are living robots, with one gyrus. Those who give them orders even at 91 were afraid to shoot, now even more so.
                    8. 123 Offline 123
                      123 (123) 29 October 2020 18: 54
                      +1
                      Military robots are living robots, with one gyrus. Those who give them orders even at 91 were afraid to shoot, now even more so.

                      These are your katlovny cyborgs, ours are adequate.
                    9. Many_ways_point Offline Many_ways_point
                      Many_ways_point 30 October 2020 11: 22
                      -2
                      The military obey orders. Is always. And by themselves they do not shoot anywhere.
  • Dear sofa expert. 28 October 2020 19: 39
    +7
    Real incomes of Russians fell for the fifth year in a row

    And who is easy now?
    Look, I heard that incomes in Ukraine fell for the sixth year in a row!)
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  • House 25 Sq. 380 (House 25 Sq. 380) 3 November 2020 11: 18
    0
    Have withdrawn half of the annual GDP in 25 years? 1/50 ???)))

  • Fourth Horseman Offline Fourth Horseman
    Fourth Horseman (Fourth Horseman) 28 October 2020 14: 39
    +7
    Come on?!!!
    And what, an expert living in Ukraine, a fugitive Turk, has thermonuclear bombs? Or does Ukraine have? Or Turkey?
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  • Eskimo Offline Eskimo
    Eskimo (Gera) 28 October 2020 14: 26
    -4
    Quote: The Fourth Horseman
    So Turkey can turn into a radioactive desert.
    I'm an expert too!)

    It will, by Russia! It has been prophesied ... the irony is that Zelensky supports Turkey to get Crimea back !!!
    1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
      A.Lex (Secret information) 8 November 2020 21: 36
      +1
      You can only swear by your Turkey, Russia does not concern you.
  • Alexey Sergeev Offline Alexey Sergeev
    Alexey Sergeev (Alexey Sergeev) 28 October 2020 20: 58
    0
    It’s interesting: with such remarks you assert that the PF can win in Turkey only with the help of nuclear weapons. Which can be applied at will by anyone
  • Andrey Goncharov (Andrey Goncharov) 28 October 2020 11: 50
    +6
    Mr. "NO" has already answered them once. True, then there was the USSR. But that's a completely different story ...
  • Pacifist Offline Pacifist
    Pacifist (Victor) 28 October 2020 12: 39
    +7
    If the Turks decide to take forceful actions against Russia, they "may lose Istanbul on the way to Crimea."

    Let them not forget about this scenario.
  • DeGreen Offline DeGreen
    DeGreen 28 October 2020 13: 11
    17
    Always laughs the phrase ,,, an expert from Ukraine ,,,
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  • amateur Offline amateur
    amateur (Victor) 28 October 2020 13: 17
    14
    Why not close the Bosphorus to Russian military and commercial ships? Closure of straits vital for Russia could return Crimea to Ukraine in a week

    Erdogan, closing the straits, in fact declares war on the Russian Federation to return Crimea to Ukraine? Such nonsense can only come up with nepolzhivye Svidomye media. "pee-pee-pee" S. Lavrov
    1. DeGreen Offline DeGreen
      DeGreen 28 October 2020 18: 00
      +8
      Ukrainians, like Georgians, are a strange people. They naively think that the entire EU and the USA revolve around them
  • boriz Offline boriz
    boriz (boriz) 28 October 2020 14: 08
    13
    The closing of the Bosphorus is a declaration of war. Comrade Gromyko (head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs under the USSR, a legendary personality), at one time, promised, in the event of blocking the Bosphorus, to immediately dig a new strait nearby.
    Ukrainian-Turkish experts need to smoke something easier.
    You never know who can do something purely theoretically!
    Armenia can easily cut gas and oil pipes from Azerbaijan to Turkey.
    And Azerbaijan can bomb a nuclear power plant in Armenia. and arrange Chernobyl and Fukushima there. But Azerbaijan itself is close by. He, too, will not seem a little.
    And Armenia can destroy the Mingechevir dam, washing away half of Azerbaijan and leaving the other half without electricity.
    However, they just quietly kill each other with moderate methods.
    This is not WWII, when nothing was considered. Now small players have to look back at their grown-ups.
    1. Many_ways_point Offline Many_ways_point
      Many_ways_point 28 October 2020 14: 30
      -14 qualifying.
      Well, an ad, so what? The war still needs to be won, and the Turks have the second largest army in NATO. And superiority in the Black Sea theater of operations with forces. And they can also receive military assistance from the United States or Israel.
      1. boriz Offline boriz
        boriz (boriz) 28 October 2020 14: 34
        +8
        Our Black Sea will be swept out, in case of war, in a couple of hours. And the fleet will not be needed.
        1. Many_ways_point Offline Many_ways_point
          Many_ways_point 28 October 2020 14: 39
          -13 qualifying.
          What will they sweep out with?
          1. boriz Offline boriz
            boriz (boriz) 28 October 2020 14: 41
            +8
            Coastal complexes, aviation.
            1. Many_ways_point Offline Many_ways_point
              Many_ways_point 28 October 2020 14: 48
              -11 qualifying.
              Aren't you afraid that they themselves will be swept away? The Turks have 260 f16, 13dpl, 16 frigates and 10 URO corvettes.
              1. boriz Offline boriz
                boriz (boriz) 28 October 2020 15: 05
                +9
                Their aviation is not in the best shape, after the coup they cleaned up their hp. The ground forces are of no interest to anyone. The ship's crew and infrastructure will simply be lowered with missiles. Then the pipes and gas (oil) storage facilities will be reset instantly and a catastrophe will come in the country. The war will end in two hours.
                Country resources are not comparable. And Turkey needs Russia more than Russia needs Turkey. If Erdogan begins to take too drastic steps against the Russian Federation, he will simply be overthrown by his own business groups.
                1. Many_ways_point Offline Many_ways_point
                  Many_ways_point 28 October 2020 15: 18
                  -12 qualifying.
                  Take off your pink glasses. Change of com. composition does not affect the skills of the pilots. To get on the crew you need a command center, but how to achieve it in the absence of air superiority?
                  Yes, the Russian Federation is stronger, but the superiority is not significant. And it can only be achieved if you throw everything that is into battle. Roughly speaking, it will be a feast victory. If at all, because if Ukraine also comes into play with the United States behind its back, things could be even worse.
                  1. boriz Offline boriz
                    boriz (boriz) 28 October 2020 15: 39
                    +7
                    I wrote, they will destroy the infrastructure. Pipelines, oil storage facilities, aboveground parts of gas storage facilities, refineries. If necessary, hydroelectric dams. It's all stationary, easily accessible for missiles. The country will be driven into the Middle Ages in a few hours. And it is not adapted to exist in these conditions.
                    What does it mean to "drop everything"? 30 - 40 missiles is "everything"? No one will have time to utter a word, and the country will be in the ass.
                    In our time, the main thing is to do everything quickly.
                    1. Many_ways_point Offline Many_ways_point
                      Many_ways_point 28 October 2020 17: 19
                      -9
                      To bomb someone in the Stone Age requires strategic bombing with a corresponding outfit of forces. 30-40 missiles are nothing at all, these are 2 airfields at best. Read how many NATO fired Tomahawks in Yugoslavia and how many bombs were dropped and do not disgrace yourself
                      1. boriz Offline boriz
                        boriz (boriz) 28 October 2020 17: 44
                        +6
                        Do you have a problem with your eyes or with your head? What are the airfields? Where did I write about them? How many calibers are needed to ditch the pumping stations for gas and oil at the entrance to Turkey? In principle, they will not have time to shoot them down, they will fly over Georgia. 2-3 calibers to bring down the dam of the hydroelectric power station, which provides 20% of electricity in Turkey. Well, something else will wash away, a matter of everyday life. The Caliber has a half-ton penetrating high-explosive warhead.
                        A couple of refineries for example, also a couple of Calibers for each. Gas storage facilities - one pair per storage. Oil storage - I don’t even want to say, cassette warheads on top of the tank. Well, there, there is a strategic denouement in the mountains.
                        All this is compact, on a third of the country's territory. We are not any janissaries, we are humanists.
                        Half an hour later - to announce that if the Bosphorus is not opened back - show must go on.
                        "It seems just everything" (C) Turkey even after this khan. I wrote here that the Turkish lira from 01.01.2010/7/XNUMX. fell XNUMX times against the dollar. IN SEVEN Karl!
                        Immediately after that, Erdogan will have to strangle himself with a silk cord. It will be easier that way. Tradition, again.
                        And the rockets will fly from three directions, so just forget about the 260 Fu 16.
                        Through the Black Sea, through the Caucasus and from the Mediterranean Sea.
                        Varshavyanka will depart from the quay wall in Tartus, go beyond Assad's territory, fire a volley and return.
                        And you have the concept of the Korean War.
                      2. Many_ways_point Offline Many_ways_point
                        Many_ways_point 28 October 2020 18: 14
                        -11 qualifying.
                        Oh, everything, another witness of the church of the holy miracle rocket, was going, in fact, to bomb Turkey with 30 kg bombs in the Stone Age. All this would be funny if it were not so sad (C).
                        My friend, at least you wouldn't be a disgrace, Caliber does not have a cassette warhead.
                      3. boriz Offline boriz
                        boriz (boriz) 28 October 2020 18: 27
                        +7
                        I seem to have listed everything. On a third of the country's territory, there is no gas, oil, gasoline, diesel fuel, electricity, and logistics are disrupted in some places. Washed away the inhabited fertile valley. Together with bridges. And you can attach some other chemical plant. The Turkish armed forces just don't give a damn. Their crew is not closer than 300 km to our shore. Targeting from your own territory - no problem.
                        And Turkey has the prospect of receiving the same gift in another third of its territory by the end of the day. Looking at night.
                        About cassette warhead Caliber I did not speak. But this does not mean that it does not exist. She's kind of banned, so ...
                        They also talked about Caliber for many years, like, 300 km range, but it turned out a bit more. And not in cartoons.
                        I didn't write anything about bombs either.
                        And you, before writing about the shame, object in essence. And then: this cannot be, because I do not want to ...
                      4. Many_ways_point Offline Many_ways_point
                        Many_ways_point 28 October 2020 19: 19
                        -8
                        Yes, yes, everything will be so. The main thing is to believe. And air patrols and AWACS planes at a dozen of the most important objects is heresy and generally from the unclean.

                        About cassette warhead Caliber I did not speak. But this does not mean that it does not exist. She's kind of banned, so ...

                        Oil storage - I don’t even want to say, cassette warheads on top of the tank.

                        But.
                      5. boriz Offline boriz
                        boriz (boriz) 28 October 2020 19: 39
                        +7
                        Warheads not only on Calibers. There is nothing in this sentence about Caliber.
                        There are definitely some cassette tapes, recently a cassette tape fell in Azerbaijan.
                        Perhaps Iskander. But I have no doubt that there is also Caliber, just no advertising.
                        And in the Donbass, the Ukrainian Armed Forces constantly used phosphorus ammunition. Which are prohibited. Where did they get them? Have you bought it? Who? Who is recognized? But most likely the Soviets took it from their warehouses.
                        And the cassette was there too. And no one around this did not arrange hysteria. The main thing is that officially everyone is against it.
              2. boriz Offline boriz
                boriz (boriz) 28 October 2020 18: 55
                10
                The amount of ammunition in Yugoslavia is ridiculous. The United States had other tasks.
                Ask yourself three simple questions:
                - in what year did the United States begin to produce CD (in the amount required for the war with the USSR)?
                - how many before 1990. did you manage to release it?
                - what is the shelf life of the CD?
                They also had to do with this illiquid stock somewhere. Therefore, the American taxpayer has earned the right to a grand show that awakens pride in his country.
                Plus, the genocide of the Slavic population, the need to tie up NATO accomplices in blood. This takes time.
                But in fact, several dozen strikes are needed on key points of the infrastructure. I gave examples.
                You have other approaches: a big war, we will fill up with corpses, etc.
                And I feel sorry for our guys. So let them train from afar, like in Warcraft.
                Enough with the Turks on sabers already. It was not for nothing that Putin created all this.
              3. Many_ways_point Offline Many_ways_point
                Many_ways_point 28 October 2020 19: 31
                -9
                The amount of ammunition in Yugoslavia is ridiculous. The United States had other tasks.
                Ask yourself three simple questions:
                - in what year did the United States begin to produce CD (in the amount required for the war with the USSR)?
                - how many before 1990. did you manage to release it?
                - what is the shelf life of the CD?
                They also had to do with this illiquid stock somewhere. Therefore, the American taxpayer has earned the right to a grand show that awakens pride in his country.

                The British have been operating since 98 and nothing.
                According to this twisted logic, all P700s should have been shot back in the late 90s.

                But in fact, several dozen strikes are needed on key points of the infrastructure. I gave examples.
                You have other approaches: a big war, we will fill up with corpses, etc.
                And I feel sorry for our guys. So let them train from afar, like in Warcraft.
                Enough with the Turks on sabers already. No wonder Putin created all this

                Without air superiority, most missiles will be shot down by fighters while approaching targets. 30 rockets are ridiculous. They will need 30 times more and still need to have air superiority.
              4. boriz Offline boriz
                boriz (boriz) 29 October 2020 00: 26
                +6
                The British have been operating since 98 and nothing.

                Therefore, the British, during the training launch of Trident from a submarine, flew towards Florida. I must have missed my homeland. Well, at least the self-destruct system worked. Otherwise, the Russian hackers would be accused again.
                In the USA, Tomahawks have been made since the early 80s and many thousands have riveted them. In such quantities, after the beginning of the 90s, they are not needed, and storage and work with them fly to a penny.
                In terms of the number of Tomahawks, the P 700 cannot be even closely compared. The P 700 is a highly specialized rocket, and the Tomahawk is designed to work across the endless areas of Eurasia from any launch vehicle. You simply do not remember or did not see how and how many Axes were used in both Iraqi companies, in Yugoslavia. They just showed it on TV. The rockets were spent in hundreds, flew across the squares, like Katyusha's. They got in the same way. You can't miss the city.
                When flying over Turkey at heights of several tens of meters, it is unrealistic to shoot them down. This is not a desert, the terrain is mountainous. With a competent launch, the missiles will fly up simultaneously on a wide front from all sides.
                You can also send several dozen old (for decommissioning) missiles there for distraction, let them shoot down.
                No fighters, no air defense, no electronic warfare can be deployed around the entire perimeter of the country.
              5. Many_ways_point Offline Many_ways_point
                Many_ways_point 29 October 2020 10: 18
                -6
                Therefore, the British, during the training launch of Trident from a submarine, flew towards Florida. I must have missed my homeland. Well, at least the self-destruct system worked. Otherwise, the Russian hackers would be accused again.

                Trident solid-propellant and ballistic missile. How can you compare it with the Tomahawk?

                In the USA, Tomahawks have been made since the early 80s and many thousands have riveted them. In such quantities, after the beginning of the 90s, they are not needed, and storage and work with them fly to a penny.

                With nuclear BB. Conventional is newer.

                In terms of the number of Tomahawks, the P 700 cannot be even closely compared. The P 700 is a highly specialized rocket, and the Tomahawk is designed to work across the endless areas of Eurasia from any launch vehicle. You simply do not remember or did not see how and how many Axes were used in both Iraqi companies, in Yugoslavia. They just showed it on TV. The rockets were spent in hundreds, flew across the squares, like Katyusha's. They got in the same way. You can't miss the city.

                What does the quantity have to do with it? Both the P700 and the Tomahawk are of the same age, so, according to your logic, they all had to be consumed in the late 90s.

                When flying over Turkey at heights of several tens of meters, it is unrealistic to shoot them down. This is not a desert, the terrain is mountainous. With a competent launch, the missiles will fly up simultaneously on a wide front from all sides.

                The list of these strategic objects is known in advance. They will be disguised, they will put all kinds of jammers and short-range air defense systems and LCs. And at least shoot yourself.
    2. boriz Offline boriz
      boriz (boriz) 28 October 2020 15: 48
      +9
      And who is talking only about the command staff of the Air Force? The bus pilots were arrested, they were massively involved in the conspiracy.
    3. Shadow041 Offline Shadow041
      Shadow041 29 October 2020 04: 50
      +5
      To understand how missiles work, you need to have an education ... Russia has the ability to destroy all the F-16s of Turkey right at the airfields, all of Turkey is being shot through by Russian missiles. Turkey, on the other hand, has no opportunity to shoot through the Russian Federation, and already here the Turks have lost. Their ships will either be sunk in the bases, or the bases will be destroyed and the Turkish fleet will be left without fuel and ammunition. The war between the Russian Federation and Turkey will resemble a video from Karabakh, only Turkish military bases will replace the Armenian tanks. Target designation for the destruction of stationary objects is not needed, their coordinates have long been known. As for the destruction of ships at sea. What do you think China is going to use its ballistic anti-ship missiles ?! The missile is launched into the area where the enemy ships are located, and then it finds the target itself, at the expense of its own radar. The radar station there is serious, this is not a state-owned Harpoon with subsonic speed. By the way, it is with these antiques that the entire Turkish fleet is armed, and in the Turkish Air Force there are only about 50 modern F-16 models
  • gorenina91 Offline gorenina91
    gorenina91 (Irina) 28 October 2020 19: 27
    -10 qualifying.
    Aren't you afraid that they themselves will be swept away?

    - That's just the point ... - The Turks have already dropped how many of our planes (and our crews were all with flying experience) ... - And our aerospace forces shoveled all the sand of the Syrian desert ...

    -My pluses to you ...
    1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
      A.Lex (Secret information) 30 October 2020 13: 55
      -1
      The Turks have already dropped how many of our planes

      Let's list - which ones, where and when?
      So:
      1. ....
    2. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
      A.Lex (Secret information) 8 November 2020 21: 38
      0
      I knew that you are Ira in this matter - "0" ...
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  • Dimy4 Offline Dimy4
    Dimy4 (Dmitriy) 28 October 2020 14: 31
    -6
    No one will make any desert for them, the current government has a thin gut, they will make noise, make noise and swallow as usual. And the sultan's GDP will once again call him another.
    1. boriz Offline boriz
      boriz (boriz) 28 October 2020 14: 40
      +7
      What is your short memory. Before the return of Crimea, they also sat quietly and talked about support for the territorial integrity of Ukraine. Then, too, silence - and here is Syria, Caliber.
      Time goes by, the situation is changing, Putin is not used to advertising his next moves.
  • Valery Valeriev Offline Valery Valeriev
    Valery Valeriev (Valery Valeriev) 28 October 2020 14: 49
    +7
    Turk, but nevertheless reasoning correctly. Talk about Crimea is more exciting to the liberal rag-tag from the capital than the Turks themselves, the reaction of the Crimeans is generally zero. Let them try to block it, then we'll see. Generally speaking, it is the height of ignorance to regard Turkey as almost a great power.
    1. Fourth Horseman Offline Fourth Horseman
      Fourth Horseman (Fourth Horseman) 29 October 2020 00: 23
      +1
      Why is this - the reaction of the Crimeans is zero ???
      We find it funny!)
  • Dear sofa expert. 28 October 2020 14: 51
    +3
    Expert: Having lost the Bosphorus, Russia will return Crimea to Ukraine within a week

    What does Crimea have to do with Ukraine? Look, even the Americans have long recognized the Russian Crimea. On the iPhone map, the border between Russia and Ukraine is clearly marked. Including in the area of ​​the Crimean peninsula.
    But the Turks will never dare to close the Bosphorus. And it is not profitable for them. Although theoretically, anyone can block the strait, for example, by flooding a couple of tankers loaded with cement in the fairway. )
  • nikola BB Offline nikola BB
    nikola BB (nikolaj wasiljew) 28 October 2020 14: 58
    +5
    Closing the Black Sea straits for Russia would be tantamount to declaring war on it with all the ensuing consequences. Moreover, the initiator of it will not be legally Russia, but Turkey, and it will not receive assistance from NATO. The end is clear to everyone.
  • Kuramori Reika Offline Kuramori Reika
    Kuramori Reika (Kuramori Reika) 28 October 2020 15: 00
    +6
    After blocking the Bosphorus, we will simply block the flow of blood to the brain of Turkish politicians, depriving them of this very head. Everything is elementary.
  • Sergey Viviorra Offline Sergey Viviorra
    Sergey Viviorra (Sergey Viviorra) 28 October 2020 15: 17
    +4
    This pseudo-expert is either stupid, or an ordinary provocateur ... Having lost the Bosphorus for a week, the Russian Federation will simply take the Bosphorus and Istanbul into the bargain. this is practically the same thing ... And for the very talks about some claims to the Crimea or other territory of Russia, we must immediately begin deliveries to Iran, Syria and Cyprus of such things as S-400, Su-57 and others, up to to tactical nuclear warheads ... So that from now on, no nonsense will go into the head of anyone ...
  • Shichkin Andrey Offline Shichkin Andrey
    Shichkin Andrey (Andrey Shichkin) 28 October 2020 15: 57
    0
    In fact, Erdogan said that many in Turkey consider Crimea to be Turkish (not Ukrainian).
    1. toni dghone Offline toni dghone
      toni dghone (toni dghone) 2 November 2020 20: 53
      +1
      The opinion of the Turkish Sultan is not interesting to anyone ...
  • Sergey A_2 Offline Sergey A_2
    Sergey A_2 (Siberian Yuzhanin) 28 October 2020 19: 30
    +1
    Khrushchev also said about this - we will make a large Turkish strait.
  • assault 2019 Offline assault 2019
    assault 2019 (assault 2019) 28 October 2020 22: 02
    -1
    And a week later, Turkey itself will lose the Bosphorus ...
    Prince Shoigu will nail another shield on the gates of Constantinople, and the Turks will continue to dig for themselves a spare strait from the Russian Sea to Sredizamnoye ..
  • 17085 Offline 17085
    17085 (Dmitriy) 28 October 2020 23: 15
    +4
    There are a huge number of idiots in the world who for some reason are sure that the "hand on the button" for launching a missile with a nuclear warhead is being held by a corrupt official who has family children abroad.
    1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
      A.Lex (Secret information) 30 October 2020 20: 18
      -1
      Even here there is one! Under the name "Mnogo_khodov_ochka", and that, along the way, of the Ukrainian spill.
  • Volga073 Offline Volga073
    Volga073 (MIKLE) 29 October 2020 00: 19
    +1
    #ConstantinopleOur
  • Brama agnihotra Offline Brama agnihotra
    Brama agnihotra (Brama Agnihotra) 29 October 2020 02: 38
    +2
    We will not lose Crimea, but we will liquidate Turkey, together with Ukraine.

    Our Bosphorus is sovereign. Our Constantinople
    and the shrine of Peace Jerusalem !!!
  • gore Offline gore
    gore (Alexander) 29 October 2020 04: 58
    0
    "Expert: Having lost the Bosphorus, Russia will return Crimea to Ukraine within a week."

    Some kind of stupid reasoning. Then we can say that having lost two Kuril islands, Russia will lose the entire Kuril ridge, Sakhalin in addition, and in the future - and Kamchatka ...
    1. toni dghone Offline toni dghone
      toni dghone (toni dghone) 2 November 2020 20: 51
      +1
      What do you pay attention to the mongrel barks the caravan is coming ... they are a toolkit British Britain itself is on its breath, Russia is a subject of global politics, so soon Turkey with its sultan will not be, the Black Sea will become the internal waters of Russia ...
  • Dust Offline Dust
    Dust (Sergei) 29 October 2020 08: 09
    +2
    Such a measure is actually a tacit declaration of war on a country whose ships Turkey is blocking in the Black Sea with no way out. However, Erdogan forgot about one thing: in the 70s, Turkey also intended to close the road to the Mediterranean for the Soviet fleet, but it ended in failure.

    Foreign policy of the Soviet Union was tough, not following the lead of anyone else. The Minister of Foreign Affairs of the USSR Andrei Andreevich Gromyko, who became famous as a diplomat of phenomenal abilities, solved foreign policy issues quickly and clearly, "like cracking nuts" - contemporaries noted.

    The aggravation of relations with Turkey and the issue of closing the Bosphorus for the Soviet ships of the Minister of Foreign Affairs could not be bypassed in any way, but Gromyko solved this problem quickly and clearly!

    When American journalists asked what the USSR would do when announcing a ban on the passage of ships of the Black Sea Fleet through the Bosphorus, Gromyko answered in his own manner - simply and with humor:

    - The Black Sea Fleet does not need the Bosphorus to enter the Mediterranean Sea!

    - How is it not needed? - the journalists were surprised, because apart from the Bosphorus there is no way to get to the Mediterranean Sea by water.

    In response to another question from journalists, the minister answered the following:

    “A couple of salvoes are enough for us to have two more passages to the Mediterranean Sea besides the Bosphorus, but, alas, there will be no more Istanbul.

    Needless to say, after these words, Turkey abandoned its former intentions for the Bosphorus. Probably, this is understandable as it is, because after having overcome the Cuban missile crisis, Turkey did not want to again become a potential victim of the geopolitical struggle.

    Thus, Erdogan should think twice before making such statements, since our missiles are still ready ...
  • Vyacheslav Smagin (Vyacheslav Smagin) 30 October 2020 11: 22
    0
    Navalny for the presidency :))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
  • toni dghone Offline toni dghone
    toni dghone (toni dghone) 2 November 2020 20: 46
    +1
    Gentlemen Yunusy Pro-Turkish portus your time has passed a long time ago, you are just a British instrument, and Russia is a subject, catch the difference then publish all kinds of interviews and thoughts out loud ...
  • toni dghone Offline toni dghone
    toni dghone (toni dghone) 2 November 2020 20: 47
    +1
    Quote: Vyacheslav Smagin
    Navalny for the presidency :))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

    Navalny is just meat for feed, he has not yet realized his salvation only in Russia ...