The appearance of Turkish "Bayraktar" in the skies over Donbass is almost inevitable

October 23 2020 31

Turkish combat drones Bayraktar will definitely appear in Donbass in the light of the prospects for military cooperation between Turkey and Ukraine - the Armed Forces of Ukraine are already using homemade drones converted from copters there, destroying civilian buildings. This opinion was expressed by the war correspondent Alexander Kots in his column on RT.

The Bayraktar drone drones purchased by Kiev from Ankara, which showed themselves first in Syria and then in Karabakh, will sooner or later appear in the skies over Donbass

- says Kots.

During the trip of the Ukrainian delegation led by President Volodymyr Zelensky to the Turkish capital on October 16, several agreements were concluded regarding the development of air defense systems, the production of combat ships and drones, as well as the creation of two naval bases on the Black Sea coast of Ukraine.

At the same time, it is clear that Russia will have to react to the appearance of Turkish UAVs over the territories of the unrecognized republics. It is assumed that Moscow's actions will include saturating the DPR and LPR armies with short-range air defense systems. It is likely that the Buk-type air defense systems will appear in the Donbas, as well as a large number of portable anti-aircraft missile systems and electronic suppression systems.

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Vladimir_ Voronov

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23 October 2020 13: 02

The news is so-so. Where are the Ukrainian attack aircraft, fighters, helicopters? There will also be Turkish drones. Nothing new.
1. Binder
  
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  23 October 2020 13: 41
  
  It is much more likely that the armor and multiple launch rocket systems of the DPR / LPR will be in the same place as the Armenian equipment - they will turn into heaps of scrap metal. Nothing new.
  1. GRF
    
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    23 October 2020 13: 46
    
    American, Canadian manufacturers of spare parts for bayraktars refuse to supply them to Turkey, so will there be new ones?
    1. Binder
      
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      23 October 2020 13: 49
      
      Without a doubt.
  2. boriz
    
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    23 October 2020 13: 50
    
    In the Russian Federation, in recent years, new electronic warfare systems have been often demonstrated, sharpened precisely for drones. And the Armenians, instead of developing the army, played tricks with the United States. They thought that the United States would help them, they would teach them how to fight, and they themselves would fight for them. Poor. Where are all these hopes?
    Nothing new.
    1. Binder
      
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      23 October 2020 14: 27
      
      In recent years, many formidable types of weapons have often been demonstrated in the Russian Federation. Mostly in the format of advertising cartoons. I sincerely feel sorry for the dying Armenians - I happened to meet many worthy representatives of this people, but today Russia is not able to provide them with effective assistance in the fight against the drones of Azerbaijan - it simply does not have such opportunities.
      1. boriz
        
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        23 October 2020 15: 00
        
        https://tvzvezda.ru/news/forces/content/201811151243-bsud.htm
        
        Well, they are. The Armenians are out, 2 UAVs were shot down in a day. Progress, no other than the arrival of Il 76 played a role.
        There was no need to ride with Pashinyan on the Maidan. It was necessary to deal with the army, under the strict leadership of the Russian Federation. Then the current war looked differently. But, most likely, it simply would not exist.
        As for the Armenians, no one denies that there are many worthy people. But for any nation, you can give examples of all sorts, in both directions. I served in the construction battalion of the Soviet Army, I have the opportunity to compare. The Armenians were not the most problematic nationality. But, here, the subsequent personal experience (under the Russian Federation) did not please a damn thing.
        And the fact that they are dying - each nation deserves its leader. There is no one to complain about, everyone rode along to Pashinyan's tune. So they galloped.
        
        Binder
        
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        23 October 2020 16: 11
        
        I think that the point is not in Pashinyan, not in Erdogan or Aliyev, and not even in the dynamics of Russian-Armenian relations, the current war was inevitable. After the beginning. In the 90s, the Armenians managed to squeeze Karabakh from the Azerbaijanis, in Baku they never made a secret of their intention to accumulate strength, arm themselves and reclaim the seized territories. Apparently, the leadership of Azerbaijan decided that this time has come. I don’t presume to judge who is right in this war, I don’t wish the death of young guys on both sides, but I understand that the state that took place for nearly thirty years could not last forever. And the Armenians had nothing to do with the army - where is the money, Zin? (C) They have no income from hydrocarbons, no modern production, no science, not even a decent agricultural sector - a small impoverished country. Now the Azerbaijanis will develop success, then the big uncles will sit the parties at the negotiating table and, I want to believe that the bloodshed will stop, although the borders will look different ...
      2. bobba94
        
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        24 October 2020 18: 22
        
        Cartoons ..... not able to help .....
        
        What Putin said about the Karabakh events - he said about the liberation of the occupied Azerbaijani territories. It was said for a reason. There was once the Nagorno-Karabakh Autonomous Region as part of the Azerbaijan SSR. The area of the NKAO was 4,4 thousand square meters. km. Then the Soviet Union collapsed, in the process of gaining independence territorial disputes arose, there was a lot of confusion and confusion, and then the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic appeared with an area of 11,5 thousand square meters. km. It is strange, in the NKAO there were originally Armenian 4,4 thousand square meters. km, and in the NKR there are already primordial Armenian 11,5 thousand square meters. km. Where did 7 thousand square meters come from? km, Armenia has loaded its territory with Karabakh? No. Has Georgia taken care? No. Think about it ...
  3. Machete
    
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    23 October 2020 21: 43
    
    The entire DNR / LNR is under fire from our air defense.
    If desired, all this Turkish flying g can be landed from our territory.
    1. Binder
      
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      23 October 2020 22: 08
      
      The lander doesn't bother, however.
  4. Shelest2000
    
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    24 October 2020 17: 10
    
    So far, we have seen only heaps of scrap metal from their ukrop equipment.
    1. Binder
      
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      24 October 2020 17: 44
      
      I have nothing to do with Ukraine and Ukrainians, except that I like to eat a shot of gorilochki.
boriz

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23 October 2020 13: 07

After the outbreak of the Karabakh wars, Canada and the United States stopped supplying sighting systems and engines for these drones. Maybe for the sake of Ukraine, the ban will be canceled, but so far it has not been heard.
Dear sofa expert.

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23 October 2020 13: 40

It is likely that the Buk-type air defense systems will appear in the Donbas, as well as a large number of portable anti-aircraft missile systems and electronic suppression systems.

Then let the means of destroying the ground control station and auxiliary equipment, as well as airfields, will immediately "appear". Well, the operational data of space reconnaissance.
Sergey Latyshev

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23 October 2020 13: 57

But such experts previously wrote that no one will give Ukraine anything ... and she will live for 2-3 months ... and .....
beeper

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23 October 2020 13: 57

I have already read somewhere about the reviving production of Strela MANPADS - probably, with the same purpose of fighting drones ?!
And yet, yes, local and Kiev banderonatsi are watching with keen interest what is happening now (in the "unrecognized" Nagorno-Karabakh) "unmanned" beating of the "Artsakh army"!
After all, the fantastical associations with the "unrecognized" LDNR are the most direct, alas!
The undoubted successes of the Turkish and Israeli drones very much inspire the militant "Kiev authorities" - they clearly dreamed of the same effective use of UAVs in the Donbas ?!
1. boriz
  
  +4
  
  23 October 2020 15: 07
  
  You are confused, only read the title.
  The revival of Strela is not the revival of Strela MANPADS. The arrow (after the MANPADS was withdrawn from production) is a long-range air-to-air missile R-37. There were some hohlo parts in the construction, so there was a pause. Now it has been substituted for import, greatly modernized and launched again. She became less overall and, at the same time, longer range. Became known as R-37M.
  1. beeper
    
    +1
    
    23 October 2020 16: 14
    
    Yes, somewhere I read only the title!
    Dear Boriz, Thank you for your comprehensive clarification!
  2. Dear sofa expert.
    
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    24 October 2020 10: 19
    
    Arrow (after MANPADS was withdrawn from production) is a long-range air-to-air missile R-37
    
    Actually, P37 is Vympel (named after the manufacturer). It is called an arrow, only according to the NATO classification (Arrow).
rotkiv04

0

23 October 2020 17: 19

if this is inevitable, then we will see a real clash of these wunderwaves with competent anti-air defense and electronic warfare, then all these Israeli and Turkish propagandists will shut up their purulent mouths at least for a while
1. Nikolay damnicki
  
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  23 October 2020 18: 23
  
  we are free to believe or not believe But it turns out that in Idlib, Libya and, now in Karabakh, Russia, due to weak opposition to Bayraktars, loses its "face" to work on the Shells I think there weren't quite barmaleies there. More precisely, they were not at all barmaley
Machete

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23 October 2020 21: 42

All this shit ends up being knocked down from somewhere in Rostov. Without crossing boundaries.
1. Binder
  
  0
  
  24 October 2020 17: 46
  
  So after all, in this situation, somewhere in Rostov, a sickly otvetka will arrive ...
  1. Machete
    
    -1
    
    24 October 2020 21: 40
    
    From whom will it fly? From the Turks?
    Are you seriously?
    If anything Rostov arrives, the floor of Turkey will be turned into ruins.
    1. Binder
      
      0
      
      24 October 2020 21: 53
      
      What side of the Turks is there? UAVs produced by the Armed Forces of Ukraine are not at all a reason to attack Turkey.
      1. Machete
        
        0
        
        25 October 2020 10: 33
        
        Yes, as it were, they wrote that the Turks almost now, after meeting with Zelensky, are ready to send their own to Donbass.
        And I don't even want to talk about the APU. They won't throw anything at us. Even they want to live.
_AMUHb_

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23 October 2020 21: 46

... poor Turks ...
Nikolaevich I

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24 October 2020 11: 47

A considerable number of Strela-2 / 2M MANPADS "lying around" in warehouses ... There are also more "recent" Strela-3, Igla-1 ... You can try to deal with them ... I don't know if it's functional engine ? (By the way, the Ukrainians even change the engines to "their" MANPADS "Strela-2M" ...) And so ... replace the batteries and take on the seeker ... Options: 1. photocontrast seeker based on the "Arrow-1" ; 2.semi-active laser seeker; 3. radio control unit instead of IK.GSN ... It is likely that the modernization of "old" MANPADS will cost less than the development and production of MANPADS from scratch! As a "transitional weapon" may well come off!
Alexander Zima

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24 October 2020 13: 24

Some create military equipment. to destroy and kill .. others to break and destroy this technique .. nothing new ... but from the satellite it is better to know where this technique is based ... which means that the base can and .. strike.
bratchanin3

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25 October 2020 15: 27

Will not the LDNR be waiting for drones in the sky, maybe it makes sense to destroy them at home airfields. I really hope that Russia will provide effective assistance in this.