From words to deeds: How Vladimir Putin has changed in 20 years


Epigraph: “You have to look here and listen to what I say! And who is not interested ... please - the door is there! " (V.V. Putin)


On October 7, as always, quietly, at home, without unnecessary fanfare, Putin celebrated his next birthday, his 68th. In its own way, the TASS news agency decided to congratulate him on this date, having published and posted on the network the last part of its special project "20 Questions to Vladimir Putin", interrupted in March due to the outbreak of the coronavirus epidemic on the 17th episode. A project in which the Russian president informally sums up his 20th anniversary at the helm of the Russian government, answering questions from TASS special correspondent Andrey Vandenko.

In the final episodes, timed to coincide with the last birthday, Putin is just answering questions about his family, about children, grandchildren, and personal losses. It also shows the behind-the-scenes part of the special project, in particular an interview with the press secretary of the Russian president Dmitry Peskov, where he speaks frankly about the very idea of ​​the project, about the “ideal storm” and about the reaction of the GDP to Vandenko's questions. In general, the last three episodes, like the previous 17, thwarted the expected hype. Everyone watched - both friends and enemies of the president, even those who insisted that on principle they did not listen to GDP. Comments have been prudently disabled beforehand.

Everything would be fine, but in a barrel of honey, as always, there was a fly in the ointment. Personally, I, like many of Putin's sympathizers, was strained by one moment in an interview when he, answering a question about children and grandchildren, unceremoniously cut off Vandenko with the words: "You shouldn't grunt!" security.

Rough somehow, isn't it? The innocent question of the journalist somehow did not suggest such a reaction. Personally, after such an answer, I would have fallen into a stupor. I'm still amazed how Vandenko had the audacity to argue: "I'm not grunting, I'm coughing!"


If such a passage drove me into a stupor, then you can be sure that all the enemies of VVP, starting with Dozhd and ending with Meduza, RBK and Echo of Moscow, immediately replicated yet another jamb of VVP with appropriate comments, not without savoring. "You shouldn't grunt!" became another meme from Putin's piggy bank, replenishing those already there "to wet in the toilets", "she drowned" and "we will go to heaven, and you will simply die!"

I understand, of course, that the president's image is a delicate matter. And here you will not immediately understand where you will win and where you will lose, but it is one thing to say about terrorists that we “will soak them wherever we catch them, we will catch them in the outhouse, which means we will soak them in the outhouse”. Or cleverly avoiding answering the question about a sunken submarine. Regarding the victims of aggression who went to heaven and how the aggressor will end up, I also have no objections. As well as regarding the "radical circumcision of Islamic radicals, so that they do not grow anything else there." I can also appreciate the president's subtle humor about his Israeli colleague Moshe Katsava: “He turned out to be a very powerful man! Ten women were raped! I never expected this from him! He surprised us all! We all envy him! " As well as his words, spoken in defense of his friend Berlusconi: “Berlusconi is being tried for living with women. If he were a homosexual, nobody would touch him with a finger, ”I also noted.

For me, Putin is primarily associated with the words: "Lucky fools, and we work from morning to night!" or “I am not ashamed in front of citizens who voted for me twice in the presidential elections. All these eight years I have plowed like a galley slave, from morning till night. I am satisfied with the results of my work! " And even “espionage, like prostitution, is one of the most important professions in the world,” I can understand, after all, Putin is a former intelligence agent. But "in vain you grunt" is beyond my understanding and there is absolutely nothing to be proud of, in vain TASS gave this remark without cuts, it could have cut it out.

Observing Putin all these 20 years, I see how he has changed, how he has matured, and what was forgivable to him in 2000, in 2020 I can no longer forgive. Power changes a person. And Putin is no exception. I see that our guarantor has become bronzed, of course, it has not yet reached Father Lukashenko, but the trend, however, is alarming. Already any coughing drives him out of himself, and the desire to restrain himself in emotions is not even visible. He started well - with "wet in the toilet", and ended - "you shouldn't grunt!" It's sad.

Clinton tapes


I could not ignore the birthday of the president and Meduza, having specially dug up the declassified transcripts of his conversations with Vladimir Vladimirovich on the website of Bill Clinton's digital library for this date, which were released 2019 years later. There, the 20nd President of the United States is already driving his two nails into the nesting box of the GDP. The conversations date back to 42 and concern the presidents' reaction to the death in the waters of the Barents Sea of ​​our nuclear submarine missile cruiser K-2000 Kursk and the fate of Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic. Both could be saved by GDP. But he didn't.

And if there is no particular fault in the death of the K-141 crew on Putin, he is only indirectly involved in the death of 23 submariners who survived the explosion and hoped in vain for salvation (I in detail wrote about it here earlier), then the death of Slobodan Milosevic is already completely on Putin's conscience.

Below I just give the declassified negotiations, draw your own conclusions. This telephone conversation took place on September 30, 2000 at the initiative of Bill Clinton. He was entirely devoted to the situation in Yugoslavia. Clinton and Putin discussed how best to remove Milosevic from power and what to do with him after that.

Clinton: I want to ask you another question. How are we going to get him out of there?
Putin: Do you mean take it away?
Clinton: Yeah, is he afraid to resign?
Putin: I think I can have a few words with him and say that the international community has nothing against him and will not take any action. But I would like to discuss this later and I think I need to explain it to him again.
Clinton: But can he stay in Serbia? Will they let him go somewhere else?
Putin: I think it would be better if he stayed in Serbia.
Clinton: Yeah, me too, but I just don't know what the setting is.
Putin: To be honest, I don't know, but maybe he wants to leave. This is a possible step on his part, but I don't know. We don't need such a gift. Why don't we send him to America?
Clinton: Yes, I understand what you mean. Let me think about it ...


How it ended, you know. Already five days after the conversation took place in Belgrade, the so-called "bulldozer revolution" began, which became the first in the subsequent chain of color revolutions that subsequently swept through a number of countries of the North. Africa and the CIS. The reason for it was the opposition led by Vojislav Kostunica's disagreement with the results of the early presidential elections and who accused the incumbent of rigging them. As a result, by the evening of the next day, after the successful storming of the FRY parliament and the state television and radio company by protesters, Milosevic was forced to resign under pressure from his own security officials, who had defected to the side of the protesters. And a day later, on October 7, the Central Executive Committee of the FRY recognized the victory of his opponent in the first round. The revolution ended there. Milosevic, to his grief, remained in Serbia.

He ended badly. Already on April 1, 2001, he was arrested by police special forces on charges of abuse of office and corruption, in order to secretly transfer him into the hands of the International Hague Tribunal a few months later, where he died of a heart attack on March 11, 2006, before he was sentenced. But he never admitted his guilt!

Does Putin feel the blame for Milosevic's death? Hardly! At that time, we were still friends with America. At least they hoped for reciprocity. Putin did not have a great friendship with Clinton, but he already had good contact with Bush Jr. Bush drove him around his ranch in a personal pickup truck, and even gave it to steer. Here's what Putin said about it in 2001:

I wasn't too thrilled to be spending the night at the Bush ranch. He had to think for himself what would happen if he let in a former intelligence officer. But Bush himself is the son of the former head of the CIA. So we were in a family circle and felt pretty good.

It is strange, of course, that after the bombing of Yugoslavia, Putin did not change his attitude towards the hegemon. But then there was already Yevgeny Primakov's plane deployed over the Atlantic, whom Putin respected very much. Why he leaked Milosevic, and with him Serbia, which has always been and remains our friend, I do not know. Probably Putin in 2000 and Putin in 2020 are two different Putin. The turning point was Munich, 2007. Everything has changed, especially the attitude towards the United States.

But the GDP itself has also changed. And if on a personal level, as can be seen from the first TASS report, it is not for the better, then on the outer track Putin has become just a furious apparatus, which is feared by enemies and respected by friends. Moreover, I do not even know which of them is more. But I know for sure that there are no indifferent people there. He is either loved or hated. To the fullest. Black and white world, no halftones. Because Putin can do everything except to lose. This is something his enemies cannot forgive him.

To summarize, I can summarize that if, on a personal level, Putin, having started well with “soaking in the toilets,” ended up with a lousy “in vain, you grunt!”, Then on the external track there is a reverse trend - starting with the drain of Milosevic and the loss of Serbia, he ended up saving those doomed to the death of Assad and Maduro and the retention of Syria and Venezuela in the Kremlin's orbit with the neighboring countries of the Middle East and Central America. What can I say here? A good person is not yet a profession, for politicians this paradigm doesn't work. The president is judged not by his personal qualities, but by his deeds. And for 20 years, Putin has proved by his deeds that he is not in vain in his post, showing himself as an ideal crisis manager. And maybe just such a set of personal qualities contributed to this.
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  1. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 20 October 2020 09: 10
    -4
    Great.
    As oil was expensive, up to 100 in 2008 and 140 bucks in 2014, so he won everyone and was friends with YSA.
    And as the oil fell, so the oligarchs, billionaires and victories became even more, the population - even less, and yesterday's friends crunched with cator hamburgs and presented bouquets, suddenly turned as one enemy and villain.
  2. amateur Offline amateur
    amateur (Victor) 20 October 2020 09: 31
    -6
    Over the years, the transformation has gone from "who is Mr. Putin" to "Mr. Putin is who"
    1. Monster_Fat Offline Monster_Fat
      Monster_Fat (What's the difference) 20 October 2020 10: 19
      -1
      Transformation ... that's for sure .... which one is real * winked


  3. Oleg Rambover Online Oleg Rambover
    Oleg Rambover (Oleg Rambover) 20 October 2020 10: 56
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    And if on a personal level, as can be seen from the first TASS report, it is not for the better, then on the outer track Putin has become just a furious apparatus, which is feared by enemies and respected by friends.

    Do you still have friends?

    And for 20 years, Putin has proved by his deeds that he is not in vain in his post, showing himself as an ideal crisis manager.

    Isn't the crisis under his management too long?
    1. 123 Offline 123
      123 (123) 20 October 2020 14: 05
      -1
      Isn't the crisis under his management too long?

      And we have a crisis?
      1. Oleg Rambover Online Oleg Rambover
        Oleg Rambover (Oleg Rambover) 20 October 2020 14: 17
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        Quote: 123
        And we have a crisis?

        If our country has been ruled by a crisis manager for 20 years, then probably yes. Ask the author.
        PS Do you doubt that we have a crisis?
        1. 123 Offline 123
          123 (123) 20 October 2020 14: 26
          +1
          If our country has been ruled by a crisis manager for 20 years, then probably yes. Ask the author.
          PS Do you doubt that we have a crisis?

          Well, the author considers it a crisis manager, but the fact that he has been managing the vast majority of the population suits him for 20 years.
          As I understand it, you are not in a position to determine the crisis in our country or not? I suppose it's in your head hi
          1. Oleg Rambover Online Oleg Rambover
            Oleg Rambover (Oleg Rambover) 20 October 2020 16: 54
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            Quote: 123
            Well, the author considers it a crisis manager

            Well, that was the appeal to the author.

            Quote: 123
            and the fact that he has been running the vast majority of the population for 20 years.

            Dadada ... like the "overwhelming majority" of Belarusians suits Lukashenka.

            Quote: 123
            As I understand it, you are not in a position to determine the crisis in our country or not? I suppose it's in your head

            If only in my head. It is also in Reshetnikov's head

            https://tass.ru/ekonomika/8535503

            Kudrin

            https://tass.ru/ekonomika/9688753

            Like 60% of Russians

            https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/4538937
            1. 123 Offline 123
              123 (123) 20 October 2020 18: 28
              -1
              Dadada ... like the "overwhelming majority" of Belarusians suits Lukashenka.

              Facts in the studio. Otherwise, it's just rotten chatter. The comparison with the potato collective farmer is not correct. Can you give an example of "normal" vote counting and the organization of elections?

              If only in my head. He is also in the head of Reshetnikov, Kudrin, Like 60% of Russians

              For all links about coronavirus. Is this also Putin's fault?
              By the way, the crisis is still in your head, well, also Kudrin and Reshetnikov because ...

              more than half of Russians (60%) believe that the economic crisis is still ahead

              Your link says that Russians think there is no crisis, it is still ahead winked
              1. Oleg Rambover Online Oleg Rambover
                Oleg Rambover (Oleg Rambover) 20 October 2020 22: 54
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                Quote: 123
                Facts in the studio.

                Have you noticed the protests in Belarus? It happens.

                Quote: 123
                Comparison with the potato collective farmer is not correct.

                Yes, all autocrats are alike. How the collective farmer is fundamentally different from the head. club?

                Quote: 123
                For all links about coronavirus.

                Quote: 123
                And we have a crisis?

                You didn't ask, "And we have a crisis caused by Putin's mediocre management." Well, if about the mediocre management of GDP.

                https://tass.ru/top-officials/9665681

                Why was the Central Bank dismissed?

                - There were reasons. He believed that the economic policy in the country at that moment no longer corresponded to the challenges. As time has shown, our growth rates have fallen and remain low for a historically long period of about ten years.

                - So after all, external circumstances have changed - sanctions over Crimea and Donbass, the global crisis of 2014.

                - Generally speaking, Russia went through difficult stages in different centuries.

                But in order to remain practically with a minimum growth within 1 percent for more than ten years, this did not happen even in Soviet times. You can dig deeper - from the middle of the nineteenth century. Apart from wars and revolutions
                In the 90s of the last century, they fell strongly, but there the period was still shorter - not ten years.

                The reasons for the problems that have arisen can be named: the volatility of energy prices, world crises, sanctions against our country ... And yet, I think we could have higher economic growth.

                More of the achievements of the African AIDS rate

                https://www.rbc.ru/society/03/07/2019/5d1b2c2e9a7947c21fdabbe4

                Or inequality

                https://www.bfm.ru/news/427630

                Or poverty

                https://www.rbc.ru/economics/22/10/2019/5dad7daf9a7947316759c49c?from=from_main
                1. 123 Offline 123
                  123 (123) 21 October 2020 00: 16
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                  There was a problem with the answer. It seems that he did not write anything bad, but the site does not skip, writes invalid text. If you are interested in it, you can read the link, threw it to disk hi

                  https://yadi.sk/i/3kiG2P9LdLyLaA
  4. 123 Offline 123
    123 (123) 20 October 2020 14: 05
    +1
    I could not ignore the birthday of the president and Meduza, having specially dug up the declassified transcripts of his conversations with Vladimir Vladimirovich on the website of Bill Clinton's digital library for this date, which were released 2019 years later.

    If after 20 years, then it is 1999. According to the link, an article about Clinton's conversation with Yeltsin in September 1999, where he says that Putin will be his successor in 2000, when he was still practically nobody.

    https://inosmi.ru/politic/20180831/243140888.html

    If the conversation is dated September 30, 2000, then 20 years elapsed twenty days ago. This I mean, if the classification is removed after 20 years, then in 2019 the term has not expired yet.

    For those who want to independently delve into the memoirs of "Bill's friend" this reference:

    https://clinton.presidentiallibraries.us/yugoslavia-dissolution

    As a result, by the evening of the next day, after the successful storming of the building of the FRY parliament and the state TV and radio company by protesters, Milosevic under pressure from his own security officials, who went over to the side of the protesters, he was forced to resign

    Did Putin make the siloviki go over? I certainly understand ... the cat abandoned the kittens, so Putin is to blame. This I mean, do you by any chance overestimate his influence and opportunities in the year 2000? Russia now and 20 years ago, do you know the same two different countries.
    If that on April 23, 2019, the television center in Belgrade was bombed, and on May 7 of the same year, the Chinese embassy. And then there was a new year and Yeltsin's departure to the chimes ... but Putin is to blame for everything ...

    Why he leaked Milosevic, and along with him Serbia, which has always been and remains our friend, I do not know.

    Forgive your curiosity, but I still did not understand from the article - what is the "drain" of Serbia?
    1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 21 October 2020 22: 24
      0
      Comrade 123, I thought better of you!
      EBN at least two companies of the Airborne Forces transferred to Pristina, Major Yunus-bek Yevkurov (now the head of Ingushetia, Major General) received a Hero of the Russian Federation, Putin for the operation, and this was not enough! He calmly watched Milosevic being knocked down and refused to take him to him. I do not blame, I state!
      Declassified docs are dated 1999-2001, it is not in my authority to remove the seal of secrecy, contact Langley for clarification
      As for the work of a crisis manager, do you think that the work of the president is not such, there is a permanent crisis every day, the GDP is still coping
      1. 123 Offline 123
        123 (123) 21 October 2020 23: 13
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        EBN at least two companies of the Airborne Forces transferred to Pristina, Major Yunus-bek Yevkurov (now the head of Ingushetia, Major General) received a Hero of the Russian Federation, Putin for the operation, and this was not enough!

        EBN did not give Milosevic the S-300, did not want to upset Bill's friend. There are different opinions about the decision to send troops to Pristina, in my opinion this is the most objective:

        According to Ivashov, the Russian command was initially negotiating with the Americans. “The three-star General Fogelson brought a paper according to which our battalion was“ allowed ”to participate in the operation in the American sector. I did not accept this paper. And here we are with Igor Sergeev (Russian Defense Minister - ed.) Put it to Yeltsin. “Thus, Boris Nikolayevich, if we agree to this, you will be subordinate to Clinton.” And now you should have seen how Yeltsin got up: “Me? To Clinton ?! " And that's all, he gave us the go-ahead for this operation, ”the general said.

        This was all that Yeltsin had to do.

        Putin was not enough for that either! He calmly watched Milosevic being knocked down and refused to take him to him. I do not blame, I state!

        As for the fact that Putin refused to accept Milosevic, I have no information, if there is data, please share hi
        The wife and son left for Russia and they were not extradited.

        https://rg.ru/2008/03/03/miloshevich.html

        Regarding "I looked like they were being felled" ... Was Putin supposed to rule everything in Yugoslavia? Did he decide who will be in power there?

        Declassified docs are dated 1999-2001, it is not in my authority to remove the seal of secrecy, contact Langley for clarification

        I didn't write about the deadline in reproach, I just specified it automatically, the dates do not converge. hi

        As for the work of a crisis manager, do you think that the work of the president is not such, there is a permanent crisis every day, the GDP is still coping

        To be honest, I don’t think so. Why is there a crisis every day?
        1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
          Volkonsky (Vladimir) 22 October 2020 05: 24
          +1
          Vladimir Putin: To be honest, I don’t know, but maybe he wants to leave. This is a possible step on his part, but I don't know. We don't need such a gift. Why don't we send him to America?

          Direct speech of Putin
          Regarding the timing of declassification, maybe Langley thinks in 4-year presidential cycles, 16 years have passed - enough, in 2000 his presidential term expired, I don't know, the docks are in the public domain
          As for the crisis, the president has a crisis every day, not on the internal, but on the external track, the country is under manual control, what is not visible?
          1. 123 Offline 123
            123 (123) 22 October 2020 09: 51
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            Vladimir Putin: Honestly, I do not knowbut maybe he wants to leave. This is a possible step on his part, but I don't know.

            It is directly stated that he does not know what Milosevic wants, therefore this topic was not discussed with him. So I think it can be concluded from this that Milosevic did not apply for asylum.

            We don't need such a gift. Why don't we send him to America?

            Apparently Milosevic was negotiating something with the Americans, why shouldn't they, in that case, take responsibility for his future fate? All former leaders and their descendants live there pretty well. From these two proposals, I conclude that Milosevic is not "our son of a bitch" for Putin. It is difficult to judge their relationship. There is little information about what they agreed and whether they agreed at all I do not know. Who knows, maybe Mimloshevich was "pro-Russian" even less than Yanukovych.
            Whether all the conversations were published, what was discussed and how, I do not know, so it is difficult to draw conclusions.

            Regarding the timing of declassification, maybe Langley thinks in 4-year presidential cycles, 16 years have passed - enough, in 2000 his presidential term expired, I don't know, the docks are in the public domain

            Yes figs with them with terms. Another thing is more important. Something I have not seen declassified conversations of other presidents. In my opinion, it's like publishing a personal correspondence. It looks like a petty revenge, perhaps the spouse advised laughing Morality and social responsibility of the Clintons at the level of Monica.

            As for the crisis, the president has a crisis every day, not on the internal, but on the external track, the country is under manual control, what is not visible?

            Come on, life is a dynamic thing, something constantly happens in the world. So in almost all large countries, there are constant "surprises" both on the external and internal circuits. Why do you think that everything is manually controlled, I personally do not understand.
            1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
              Volkonsky (Vladimir) 22 October 2020 20: 01
              +1
              Clinton: But can he stay in Serbia? Will they let him go somewhere else?
              Putin: I think it would be better if he stayed in Serbia.
              Clinton: Yeah, me too, but I just don't know what the situation is.
              Putin: Honestly, I don't know, but maybe he wants to leave. This is a possible step on his part, but I don't know. We don't need such a gift. Why don't we send him to America?

              Comrade 123, no need to pull phrases out of context, then there will be fewer questions for me. Putin says that he does not know the situation in the FRY, and not Milosevic's plans, with whom he has not yet talked about it. But he openly says that he does not need such a gift, without being attached to whether Milosevic wants it or not!
              Regarding his shelter in the United States, after their bombing of Belgrade in 1999, you, like VVP, have a very rich imagination.
              I know how a crisis manager differs from an operational one from my personal experience in business. The first works in manual mode, eliminating emerging problems with the second number, and the second works with the first number, creating a situation where there shouldn't be any problems when the system is working. The president does not have a second case. Always in a non-stop mode, life throws up problems that have to be solved
              1. 123 Offline 123
                123 (123) 22 October 2020 20: 55
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                Comrade 123, no need to pull phrases out of context, then there will be fewer questions for me. Putin says that he does not know the situation in the FRY, and not Milosevic's plans, with whom he has not yet talked about it. But he openly says that he does not need such a gift, without being attached to whether Milosevic wants it or not!

                Putin's words that he does not know the situation in the FRY does not mean that he knows Milosevic's opinion. Looked at the article you are linking to.

                According to some reports, former Greek Foreign Minister Karolos Papoulias two weeks before the elections invited Milosevic to think about asylum in Russia or one of the countries of the former USSR in exchange for voluntary resignation. Putin was allegedly ready to enlist the approval of the scheme from the United States. But Milosevic refused.

                I fully admit that there were such attempts to come to an agreement and that Milosevic refused to leave. It looks like he had more conceit than Lukashenka. Certain parallels simply suggest themselves. He believed that he would win the elections, did not allow observers, and so on. I think Milosevic could get Putin with his tricks no worse than Lukashenka. That is why he said that he did not need such a gift.
                So I'm not trying to pull anything out and insert it somewhere, but just trying to understand how it all happened.

                Regarding his shelter in the United States, after their bombing of Belgrade in 1999, you, like VVP, have a very rich imagination.

                Rather, it is black humor. Considering what was said in the previous paragraph, I think in this case it is quite appropriate.

                I know how a crisis manager differs from an operational one from my personal experience in business. The first works in manual mode, eliminating emerging problems with the second number, and the second works with the first number, creating a situation where there shouldn't be any problems when the system is working. The president does not have a second case. Always in a non-stop mode, life throws up problems that have to be solved

                Certain problems requiring the intervention of the first person periodically arise among the heads of almost all large states. I do not see any fundamental differences between Russia and, for example, Germany or the United States. Shall we consider all three as crisis managers? Then why bother with this term?
                If we single out Russia in this regard, then we mean that in other countries the system works like a clock and practically does not require the intervention of the head, while in Russia the state machine is not well-functioning and everything rests on Putin, who rushes about "plugging holes." And this is not at all true. hi
                1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
                  Volkonsky (Vladimir) 23 October 2020 23: 28
                  +1
                  Putin accepted the country in 1999 in a completely different form than Frau Merkel took the FRG; the Russian Federation has had much more sporadically arising problems over the years than its neighbors on the globe in the West. Leave you alone from this term, it does not carry any negative connotations, it's just a given
  5. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
    steelmaker 20 October 2020 21: 02
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    sums up its 20th anniversary at the helm of the Russian government

    And my comment is not passed.

    not without a fly in the ointment. on a personal level, Putin, having started well with "getting wet in the toilets," ended up with a lousy "in vain you grunt!"

    Dropped tar in a spoon of honey - spoiled the grace,
    neither the sick nor the healthy can now give it.
    And the road is long to go
    and it would be nice to drink a spoonful of honey sometimes.
    But with a drop of tar, everything is not going well with the evil one on the way,
    revenge and envy will not allow happiness to be found.
    Never get a drop of tar from honey
    the poor fellow thinks shallowly, the result is trouble.
    You can't lift your troubles with your hands, your own trouble is like a stone with a ton,
    do not move a ton from the pedestal, yet that time has not come.

    which is feared by enemies and respected by friends.

    I wonder who is afraid and who respects? For instance.
  6. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
    rotkiv04 (Victor) 21 October 2020 15: 02
    +2
    like at the beginning of his journey he said that he had come to defend the interests of the Russian people, but in fact it turned out to be the same Eltsin, only sober and only protects Russian thieves from business.