Erdogan: The time has come to end the occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh by Armenians


The President of Turkey stated that the lands of Nagorno-Karabakh should belong to Azerbaijan, and the occupation of this territory by the Armenians should be stopped.


It's time to end the occupation of Armenia, it's time to pay the bills

- Erdogan said categorically during his speech in Istanbul.

The Turkish leader believes that if the situation does not change, Yerevan will continue to be "headstrong". In his opinion, Armenia should leave Nagorno-Karabakh - after all, everyone knows that these are Azerbaijani lands.

Erdogan also accused the OSCE Minsk Group of inability to resolve the Nagorno-Karabakh problem. According to the Turkish leader, this organization has been unable to do anything for three decades. Those who reproach Turkey for the supply of weapons and the presence of their troops in Nagorno-Karabakh themselves supply their weapons to the northern part of the SAR, Erdogan said, hinting at the support of the Syrian Kurds from the United States.

Erdogan's anti-Armenian rhetoric is not accidental - the Turkish president makes bellicose speeches amid the aggravation of the conflict on the Armenian-Azerbaijani border and in Nagorno-Karabakh. According to some telegram channels, Ankara may interfere in the confrontation between Baku and Yerevan - units of the elite Turkish special forces "Commandos Brigade" are preparing to be sent to Azerbaijan.
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  1. boriz Online boriz
    boriz (boriz) 28 September 2020 17: 37
    +4
    Isn't it time to end the occupation of the primordial Armenian Ararat and pay compensation for the genocide of the Armenian people?
    Something Erdogan went too far, it would not have ended very badly for him.
    1. Atilla10933 Offline Atilla10933
      Atilla10933 (Atilla_az) 28 September 2020 17: 47
      -8
      Quote: boriz
      primordially Armenian Ararat

      Do you have the deed? Since when did it become original? Do you know what is the difference between Türks and Hayy (the real name of the Armenian nationality), we put a semantic translation on all the names of cities, villages. Ararat has never been Armenian. Arar-the lost At-horse. This valley and the mountain was called the valley of the lost horse, and what does Ararat mean in Armenian? Let's leave aside that Agrydag is Turkic. What year was Ararat Armenian? Then let's remake the whole world according to this era. Not weak? We will return the USA to the Indians. Europe to ancient Rome. Do you agree? If you say that to the Americans, they will simply send you to NOW ... and they will also call you a separatist and a terrorist. This is your answer about Arararat.

      YOU CAN LOOK AT THIS MOUNTAIN. DO NOT FOOT!

      PS. Armenia does not have a bill of sale for Armenia itself, but you are talking about grief. Armenia is the former Iravan Khanate of Azerbaijan.

      Document of May 29, 1918 on the transfer of Erivani to Armenians by ADR

      1. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
        rotkiv04 (Victor) 28 September 2020 21: 32
        0
        ... history, as you know, goes in a spiral, and it looks like the ancient tribe of the Parthenians will get their historical lands
        1. Atilla10933 Offline Atilla10933
          Atilla10933 (Atilla_az) 29 September 2020 05: 12
          -4
          Quote: rotkiv04
          and it looks like the ancient tribe of the Parthenians will get their historical lands

          they will not see it as their own ears))))) but you will definitely get a hostile Armenia. Do you remember the Armenian posters with the words Putin Siktir? So, now it will be squared, given what has happened to them over the past 2 days. You have no friends or allies. Enemies are everywhere. Worth pondering
      2. dimi Offline dimi
        dimi (Dmitriy) 29 September 2020 00: 42
        -1
        Atila, aren't you tired of muddying the waters?
  2. GRF Offline GRF
    GRF 28 September 2020 17: 37
    +6
    For the occupied Byzantine Constantinople, when will you pay the bills?
    1. Atilla10933 Offline Atilla10933
      Atilla10933 (Atilla_az) 28 September 2020 17: 48
      -11 qualifying.
      Quote: GRF
      For the occupied Byzantine Constantinople, when will you pay the bills?

      You yourself will climb into the trenches against the Turks? Or another couch terminator?
      When are you going to answer for Turan? You are not the only one who knows the story.
      1. GRF Offline GRF
        GRF 28 September 2020 18: 02
        +4
        Hitler also successfully chased Jews from not their land, where they had lived for centuries, but greed ruined him, so everyone knows history, and they interpret it as they want ...
        I read your today's opuses, it makes no sense for me to discuss with you ...
        1. Atilla10933 Offline Atilla10933
          Atilla10933 (Atilla_az) 28 September 2020 18: 06
          -8
          Quote: GRF
          itler also Jews from not their land, where they lived for centuries

          Only the Jews were not going to build a Jewish country on the land of the Anglo-Saxons, unlike the Armenians. And the civilian population of the Germans was not killed, which I will not say about the Armenians.

          Quote: GRF
          I read your today's opuses, it makes no sense for me to discuss with you ...

          Understand. not the first time. When the interlocutor has no reasons and facts, the end is always like this. Senseless communication.
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          2. dimi Offline dimi
            dimi (Dmitriy) 29 September 2020 00: 45
            +1
            what are your reasons? zero except for self-righteousness. Everyone wanted to spit on your arguments from scratch !!!!!
      2. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
        rotkiv04 (Victor) 28 September 2020 21: 25
        +1
        and that the Turks are such noble warriors? Well, I'm not talking about you at all
        1. Atilla10933 Offline Atilla10933
          Atilla10933 (Atilla_az) 29 September 2020 05: 09
          -6
          What kind of warriors we can see here.

          https://haqqin.az/news/190501

          What warriors are the Turks, you can google about the Ottoman Empire. And by the way, which Turks are warriors in Syria, your anti-aircraft gunners know not by hearsay.

          THE QUESTION IS ANOTHER. What kind of warriors are you after the collapse of the USSR? Where there are no 15 republics .... I count Georgia for the victory 080808 ???? Well, with this dwarf country ... ....?
      3. dimi Offline dimi
        dimi (Dmitriy) 29 September 2020 00: 43
        -1
        have you seen these trenches ?? or judging by cartoons ??
  3. Afinogen Offline Afinogen
    Afinogen (Afinogen) 28 September 2020 17: 49
    +4
    Erdogan also accused the OSCE Minsk Group of inability to resolve the Nagorno-Karabakh problem.

    And this is a pebble in the direction of a friend of Putin. This is how it happens, you feed him ice cream when you meet, and then he throws stones at you. I constantly say, there is no faith in this Erdogan. He has changed his shoes four times in a short time.
    1. Atilla10933 Offline Atilla10933
      Atilla10933 (Atilla_az) 28 September 2020 18: 01
      -10 qualifying.
      Quote: Athenogen
      And this is a pebble in the direction of a friend of Putin.

      Yes, there is, but he's right. Is not it? How long can you talk? 30 years is not enough? Here it is not about some Arabs, but Azerbaijan. This is one nation. For 30 years to drive Azerbaijan by the nose spitting on international law and sanctions and documents and resolutions. And this is no longer a pebble ... ... ... .. this is a concrete stone. But most likely you do not notice it.

      Quote: Athenogen
      That's how it goes, you feed him ice cream

      In my opinion, free cheese only happens in a mousetrap.

      Quote: Athenogen
      I constantly say, there is no faith in this Erdogan.

      - and I say no faith in the Kremlin. Show through-through flights with weapons for Armenians in recent days and months, BEING knowing that they are occupants. And this is not a pebble but concrete towards a friend of Erdogan and Aliyev. Don't you think?

      There is one Russian proverb:

      Don't ask for what you don't give yourself.

      So please be honest.
      1. Fourth Horseman Offline Fourth Horseman
        Fourth Horseman (Fourth Horseman) 29 September 2020 05: 48
        -2
        The more you close your eyes there, the better.
  4. Bakht Offline Bakht
    Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 28 September 2020 18: 06
    +1
    On this site, so many copies were broken about the Russian base in Gyumri. I was convinced that this base influences the situation in Nagorno-Karabakh. Where are the fans of this base? Russia does not interfere in this conflict. According to Peskov, V. Putin will communicate with I. Aliyev when necessary.
    But I have a different question. If Russia does not intervene, predict the future of this base and the political course of Armenia. This is a question for those who are here strongly drowning for Armenia.
    My opinion is that Armenia will go to the West anyway. Therefore, Putin does not interfere. The time has not come yet.
    1. Kristallovich Offline Kristallovich
      Kristallovich (Ruslan) 28 September 2020 18: 13
      +7
      If Russia does not intervene, predict the future of this base and the political course of Armenia.

      The Nagorno-Karabakh Republic is not part of Armenia. On what grounds to interfere? Russia will always help with weapons, but directly with troops only in case of an attack on a CSTO member state. Yerevan has not yet recognized the independence of the NKR itself. What can we talk about in general?
      1. Bakht Offline Bakht
        Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 28 September 2020 18: 18
        -2
        That's right, about nothing. But for some reason, Pashinyan rushed to call Moscow. Probably from a big mind ...
        1. Kristallovich Offline Kristallovich
          Kristallovich (Ruslan) 28 September 2020 18: 20
          +6
          It is not a waste of time to get support here. This is normal practice. Lukashenka also called Putin, and more than once, although that was an internal matter of Belarus.
          1. Bakht Offline Bakht
            Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 28 September 2020 18: 26
            0
            So it seems like he did not want to "enlist support". And asked for help
            1. Kristallovich Offline Kristallovich
              Kristallovich (Ruslan) 28 September 2020 18: 28
              +1
              Where did you get this information from?
              1. Bakht Offline Bakht
                Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 28 September 2020 19: 05
                0
                According to rumors. There were such messages.
                1. Kristallovich Offline Kristallovich
                  Kristallovich (Ruslan) 28 September 2020 19: 15
                  +2
                  Reliable source
                  1. Bakht Offline Bakht
                    Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 28 September 2020 20: 00
                    +1
                    No others. But the facts are as follows. Pashinyan called, Aliyev did not. After Putin, Pashinyan called Macron, Macron called Aliyev. Did Pashinyan want to get support from Macron? Macron and Aliyev did not find mutual understanding. The official version of Aliyev's conversation with Macron "informed about the situation"
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              2. Volga073 Offline Volga073
                Volga073 (MIKLE) 28 September 2020 19: 15
                0
                Why could he call? To say that autumn is coming?
          2. isofat Offline isofat
            isofat (isofat) 28 September 2020 18: 59
            +3
            "Colored" revolutionary Pashinyan wants to involve Russia in something bad (version). smile
            1. Atilla10933 Offline Atilla10933
              Atilla10933 (Atilla_az) 28 September 2020 21: 37
              -3
              Quote: isofat
              "Colored" revolutionary Pashinyan wants to involve Russia in something bad (version).

              Quite right. SHAH is announced here. Russia has 2 options.
              1) Stand up for Armenia and acquire a new enemy in the person of Azerbaijan
              2) Not to intercede for Armenia and at the same time to finally lose Armenia and the base.

              In any case, Armenia wins and Russia loses.

              ps Tactics divide and conquer is good until a certain time and then it fails and then the saying comes to mind .... to get into a hole that was buried for a stranger.

              though don't worry ... ... ..Russia helps Armenia. Over the past few days, 7 aircraft have already been delivered from Rosstov through Iran.
              1. dimi Offline dimi
                dimi (Dmitriy) 29 September 2020 00: 48
                -1
                Quite right. SHAH is announced here. Russia has 2 options.
                1) Stand up for Armenia and acquire a new enemy in the person of Azerbaijan
                Seriously???
        2. Alkatrass A Offline Alkatrass A
          Alkatrass A (Аlkatrass A) 28 September 2020 21: 48
          +1
          I myself wondered, whose is it Erdogan and Aliyev kissing on the gums? ... Pashinyan called Putin and called ... And whose? ...
        3. Fourth Horseman Offline Fourth Horseman
          Fourth Horseman (Fourth Horseman) 29 September 2020 05: 51
          0
          L-logic!)
          The same Erdogan often calls Putin. Merkel, Macron, etc ...
    2. Atilla10933 Offline Atilla10933
      Atilla10933 (Atilla_az) 28 September 2020 21: 24
      -6
      Quote: Bakht
      But I have a different question. If Russia does not intervene, predict the future of this base and the political course of Armenia.

      Let me answer this question. Russia CANNOT NOT HELP Armenia. This is the Petrovsky project with a testament. The loss of Armenia is the loss of the entire Caucasus. Thanks to Armenia and the Armenians, the Russian authorities always, not for the first time, use Armenians when they themselves do not want to get their hands dirty. (To kill civilians ... ... .. more on that later) For example. In Azerbaijan, Eduard Grigoryan in the 90s. Baghramyanov battalion in the 90s Georgia. One-eared General Andronic in Turkey at the beginning of the 20th century and so on .... and the list of Armenian terrorist acts in the world is a huge list, and by the number of territorial organizations, Armenians rank first in the WORLD. An excellent candidate for Russia. This is one side of the coin ..... look at the screen. It is through Iran to Armenia with linden numbers the convoys for Armenia and by the way cargo planes go. Rostov Yerevan and makes a huge circle across the Caspian. It is still worth talking about this for Azerbaijani diplomacy with the Kazakhs, Uzbeks and Iranians.

    3. Atilla10933 Offline Atilla10933
      Atilla10933 (Atilla_az) 28 September 2020 21: 34
      -5
      Quote: Bakht
      But I have a different question. If Russia does not intervene, predict the future of this base and the political course of Armenia.

      Part 2. Openly Russia also DOES NOT WANT to be on the side of Armenia. The price is expensive. Therefore, to the maximum, it will put pressure on Azerbaijan to stop the war. Otherwise, if it intervenes openly, Azerbaijan will definitely become a future candidate for NATO. In short, the second Georgia and Ukraine. And this is not good yet. Azerbaijan has more weight in comparison with Ukraine and Georgia. Too many projects, too many investments, too convenient location, and so on ... Do you think peace between Armenians and Azerbaijanis is needed for the Kremlin?))))))))))) Who will then sell the shield and to whom the sword ? In addition, one takes the loot for a double price and the other in kind. In kind - this. The railways of Armenia belong to Russia. Cellular communications, factories and factories, but this is all garbage ..... the main base is in GYUMRI and for 50 years, and moreover, penniless) Armenia pays itself for someone else's base. Street Pashinyan appeared in the arena ... without past and present ... the result? The man said ..... Mom Kilianus go to the West. Europe love carrots. And Mr. Putin has to tame the disobedient slave. How is a slave stolen? Lash. For some reason I think that how Serzhik began to sing about love for Europe .... April 2016 happened right away. How Pashinyan came and said Russia is not a friend ... ... ... immediately the war in Nakhichevan and in Karabakh ... victory second time. Now, Pashinyan has played smart. He began to attack from the side of Armenia ..... so that the response was to Armenia and Russia could openly enter the war for them. As it is according to history. Hide behind the back of Russian soldiers. In front of the base in Gyumri, there is a large plate with words. YES THE FOOT OF THE RUSSIAN SOLDIER IS GLORIOUS WHEN IT entered ARMENIA. And as soon as they start singing about Europe, these words come into force))))) Accident?
      1. Bakht Offline Bakht
        Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 28 September 2020 22: 38
        +1
        It's all entertaining, but hardly informative. In nature, everything is arranged either brilliantly simple or stupidly simple. We're too smart to understand this.

        Russia has already lost the South Caucasus. The question is already different - whether the South Caucasian republics will be loyal (or at least neutral) to Russia. Or will they be hostile? Azerbaijan is objectively the strongest state in the South Caucasus. And in North-South logistics, one cannot do without Azerbaijan. Georgia is definitely no longer a friend of Russia. Armenia is at an economic and logistical impasse. The Kremlin will decide who to help. In any case, it's good that this site is not.

        Therefore, there is a pause in Moscow. Let's take a look. In the next couple of days, I think the activity will subside. If the Armenian front does not collapse. But this is my opinion. I do not pretend to be omniscient.
  5. Stanislav Bykov Offline Stanislav Bykov
    Stanislav Bykov (Stanislav) 28 September 2020 18: 36
    +2
    Erdogan does not have enough economic or military potential to act in several directions at once, he will have to sacrifice something, not for Senka's hat ... the Sultan decided to try on the chalma ... well, let's see ..
  6. Volga073 Offline Volga073
    Volga073 (MIKLE) 28 September 2020 19: 13
    +1
    Erdogan is an abomination
  7. gorenina91 Offline gorenina91
    gorenina91 (Irina) 28 September 2020 19: 23
    0
    Ararat has never been Armenian. Arar-the lost At-horse. This valley and the mountain were called the valley of the lost horse, and what does Ararat mean in Armenian? Let's leave aside that Agrydag is Turkic. What year was Ararat Armenian?

    - Personally, I do not sympathize with either the Turks ... - or the Armenians (although they are Christians) ... - But ignorance should not flourish ... - Hahah ...
    -Armenians ... The Parthian kingdom arose already somewhere in 250 years BC. -And "Noah's Ark" is somewhere near the notorious Mount Ararat ... -And what kind of "horse" is there ... - once someone was "lost" ... -It's hard to say ...- it could to be relatively "quite recently" ... ..
    -Turks in general ... are "modern Americans" (is there any such "nationality" ... -American) ... -And the "habits" of the Turks ... -American too ... -tried to seize everything around them ... -but they could not ... overstrained ... - And the Turks do not have land ... their own ... primordial "Turkish" ... - just like the Americans ... do not have their own land. ... -Only Americans now live on Indian soil; and the Turks now live on Greek soil ... -That's the whole "lost horse" ... in the vicinity of Ararat ... -Hahah ...
    1. Atilla10933 Offline Atilla10933
      Atilla10933 (Atilla_az) 28 September 2020 21: 43
      -7
      Quote: gorenina91
      And the Turks have no land ... their own ... original "Turkish"

      The primordial TyuyuYuraskie lands are marked in blue. The Turks are one of the most ancient peoples. Forgot 5 centuries under whose yoke were you? Yakuts are also Turks and you want to say that they do not live on their own land?

      1. Dmitry S. Offline Dmitry S.
        Dmitry S. (Dmitry Sanin) 29 September 2020 05: 35
        +3
        Sucks You know the story. It sucks. No! Where it is profitable - you know, but where it is not profitable - you do not know. True Turks are not Turks, but Kirghiz. They even have a language unchanged for 3 thousand years. But for some reason they do not declare their exclusiveness, but calmly sweep the streets, lay asphalt and build houses - which I wish you too.
      2. Bitter Offline Bitter
        Bitter (Gleb) 29 September 2020 19: 13
        0
        Blue color indicates ...

        It's good that they are not marked with some kind of dog on the fence, I will draw milen such blotters for you on the weekend in blue and pink colors right diagonally from Yakutia through Turkey to Africa and to the "station". Something all carried away by rewriting and redrawing. It looks like Kurdistan will take place after all.
  8. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
    steelmaker 28 September 2020 20: 59
    +1
    The time has come to end the occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh by the Armenians

    And Erdogan thinks correctly. 30 years is a long time to agree on something. And the Armenians, if they didn't start oppressing the Russian language, renaming the streets, flirting with the US, I would say something in their defense. And I don’t want something. Militarily, the Azeris will be weaker. They cannot cope without the help of the Turks. And the Armenians, when they begin to kill them, always remember the Russians. But for some reason they don't ask to join the union state.
    1. Atilla10933 Offline Atilla10933
      Atilla10933 (Atilla_az) 28 September 2020 21: 52
      -7
      Quote: steel maker
      And Erdogan thinks correctly. 30 years is a long time to agree on something.

      Thank you God. Not really someone thinks adequately. And that is disgusting to look at double standards.

      Quote: steel maker
      Militarily, the Azeris will be weaker.

      and here you are no longer right. where did you see our weakness? Over the past 4 years, there have been strong clashes 5 times and 4 out of 5 times we have returned part of the land with the destruction of the defense, which was supposedly modernized for 30 years. Armenian veterans in Armenia gathered in April 2016, our intelligence tracked their route and then destroyed their Israeli-made KHOROP Kamekadze. One of our soldiers walked over to the Armenians without permission and laid down quite a few people there. Read about Mubariz Ibragimov. Drones destroy from bases to vehicles. And their buckets of drones go off instantly. Google to help you. The Azerbaijani army is equipped with the best weapons. And the Air Force is a number higher than that of Armenia. 4th Su30 won't help them. You yourself know as well as I do that this plane is not the best idea for this area. Well, you tell me to launch a rocket from Armenia .... and this will already mean that Armenia is attacking us ..... it will no longer hide from the lies that some special race is fighting with us ... ..they say they are not us. Then he will get the most backembards from us and get it by the way.
    2. Atilla10933 Offline Atilla10933
      Atilla10933 (Atilla_az) 28 September 2020 21: 53
      -7
      Quote: steel maker
      But for some reason they don't ask to join the union state.

      The answer to this question is hidden in Peter's will about the Armenians.
  9. Michael1950 Offline Michael1950
    Michael1950 (Michael) 28 September 2020 21: 59
    +1
    - That's curious: will Russia "merge" Armenia - or not ?! Or is business with Turks more expensive and "nothing personal, comrades Armenians"? request
  10. lahudra Offline lahudra
    lahudra (Nikolay Kondrashkin) 28 September 2020 22: 05
    -3
    And if Karabakh is divided in half, will Azerbaijan suit it? Not mine, so it's easy to divide.
    1. Volga073 Offline Volga073
      Volga073 (MIKLE) 28 September 2020 23: 22
      0
      Let's share yours too?
    2. Atilla10933 Offline Atilla10933
      Atilla10933 (Atilla_az) 29 September 2020 05: 20
      -5
      Quote: lahudra
      And if Karabakh is divided in half, will Azerbaijan suit it?

      If this was a little business for the first time, then I would have kept silent .. Although state lands are not thrown. At 18 we gave them a good piece of our land. Iravan Khanate. Above I posted the document. Then Zengezur connected the present-day Armenia with Iran. You can read about this on the Internet and in Russian sources. The answer is this. They do not really live in the land that we gave them, migration Europe-USA-Stavropol Territory. Why do they need more land? Would you give? No, they didn't. Arrange immediately CONSTITUTIONAL LAW WITH THE ENTRY INTO THAT TERRITORY OF THE ARMY.
  11. Volga073 Offline Volga073
    Volga073 (MIKLE) 28 September 2020 23: 21
    0
    Erdogan to Petlyak!
  12. Bakht Offline Bakht
    Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 28 September 2020 23: 45
    +1
    The most correct assessment of the situation, in my opinion.

    https://cont.ws/@voenkorr/1794246

    So we have to wait for the decline in activity. Apparently, the losses are great for both sides. So calling "salami tactics" is a reminder that the issue is not closed and needs to be addressed. Preferably by diplomatic means. Otherwise, there will periodically be such bursts of combat activity.
    It is now critically important for Azerbaijan to keep the heights of Murovdag. I am afraid that not everything succeeded in the southern section. But this is again my personal opinion. There is no officially confirmed information.
  13. Sergey A_2 Offline Sergey A_2
    Sergey A_2 (Siberian Yuzhanin) 29 September 2020 05: 27
    0
    I wonder how he will take it all out, Syria, Libya, got hooked with the Greeks and more here.
  14. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 29 September 2020 09: 08
    0
    Then a week ago, the news about the possible sale of the SU of Turkey was again circulated.

    Money does not smell.
  15. Kuramori Reika Offline Kuramori Reika
    Kuramori Reika (Kuramori Reika) 29 September 2020 15: 13
    0
    And when will George Soros send the tanks? Where is the aviation from Macron? The Armenians proclaimed the Russians invaders, threw the embassy and demanded that they get out. But that was 2 years ago, no one expected that now they will have to deal with their problems themselves. Forward, squares.
  16. _AMUHb_ Offline _AMUHb_
    _AMUHb_ (_AMUHb_) 29 September 2020 15: 48
    0
    Atilla here, of course, gives the Azeri layouts, but I know those and these ... which they of course "well done" they can give for soup, but they remind me of "pompous turkeys" well, or disguised peacocks (as you like), traders (they and God ordered so). Well, and which "those", in addition to cabbage soup, they can grab and gnaw at the throat (of course, when it squeezes) ... I am more concerned about how one "soup" in a cheap transfer (where they bought souls) said: "the ark (Christianity) is too small for everyone to get there, and therefore he (the ram) decided that for his" service "(to the wolves) he, after death," will settle down better "by making a deal, working for them here, buying souls ... : "he who has endured everything will be saved" ... although "our excited mind is seething" and is ready to fight a mortal battle ... another life-long delirium which has neither beginning nor end. for the time being, of course
  17. gmm.su Offline gmm.su
    gmm.su (MyCN Opt) 29 September 2020 17: 15
    +1
    Personally, I am against any conflict, innocent civilians always die there, and the worst thing is children. I don't want to speak for anyone in this conflict, as there are friends, both Armenians and Azerbaijanis. BUT! I will express my opinion based on history (not very distant). Without the intervention of other states (Turkey, Russia, etc.), Azerbaijan will definitely win the war, these are Muslims, and as history shows, they are not afraid to die. The only way to take the native land from a Muslim is to kill him. An example of this is Afghanistan, Chechnya, Dagestan, small regions (in comparison with Russia), and wars have been going on there for years. In Chechnya, for example, the war ended due to the fact that the Chechens themselves wanted peace and managed to come to an agreement with them (Kadyrov's father was then in favor of peace), otherwise the war would have been going on until now. The same Afghanistan has never been captured by anyone. The Muslims have a war in their blood, the same Ottoman Empire has grown to an unprecedented size. Many examples can be recalled if desired, the same 1000-year-old war of Catholics and Muslims for the holy land of Jerusalem. ALL Europe was then at war and could not forever gain a foothold there. As a result, cunning Jews came and settled there (Muslims always treated Jews with restraint, otherwise they would not be there. The Jews took advantage of this). The same Chechen special forces (which instilled fear in the maydanuts in Ukraine, and then in Syria), Kadyrov will never let them fight for Armenia and kill Azerbaijanis. The only thing that can be terrible there is the Russian-Turkish war. But I think the presidents are not stupid enough to clash on two fronts. This will hit the economies of both Russia and Turkey hard. Let's see what happens (IMHO)