Hezbollah's withdrawal from Syria speaks of impending major war in the region


In the course of the long-term Syrian campaign, an important turning point has been outlined. A representative of the Lebanese Hezbollah, which was one of the reliable supports of President Bashar al-Assad, announced the imminent withdrawal of its militants from the territory of the SAR. What could be behind this decision?


Prominent Lebanese politician Gebran Bassil stated literally the following:

Hezbollah has an intention to return from Syria, and we, all Lebanese, must support it in this.

Hezbollah is one of the Shiite parties in Lebanon, advocating the creation of an Islamic state in the image and likeness of Iran. It has a paramilitary wing that is actively supported by Tehran. Hezbollah fighters, together with the Iranians, were the first to support the regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad in the fight against foreign interventionists and terrorist groups even before the entry of the Russian military contingent. And now the Lebanese were getting ready to go home. There are at least two opinions regarding the reasons explaining this.

On the one hand, Hezbollah's withdrawal is believed to be the result of tacit agreements between Damascus, Moscow, Ankara and Tehran. The scale of military clashes in Syria has dropped sharply. The terrorist organization ISIS, banned in Russia, has been repeatedly declared defeated. The SAR government army controls most of its country's territory. The volume of tasks for Hezbollah has diminished dramatically, and their presence in Syria is an annoying moment for its neighbors in the region. After the withdrawal of the Lebanese militants, the regions previously occupied by them will come under the control of Damascus, which will also clearly not mind getting rid of the armed foreigners. In this context, Hezbollah's withdrawal from Syria is a positive development, another step towards normalizing the situation in a country exhausted by many years of war.

On the other hand, this decision may be not so much voluntary as forced.

At first, it is worth remembering that a terrible tragedy recently occurred in the Lebanese capital. After the explosion in the port of Beirut by the economy the state was dealt a heavy blow, civil unrest broke out. It is possible that Hezbollah militants will become a significant trump card in the inevitable struggle for power.

Secondly, it should be borne in mind that the withdrawal of the Lebanese could be the result of an unspoken ultimatum from Israel. Tehran does not hide its intention to destroy the Jewish state and directly counts on the help of the Lebanese, said Brigadier General Amir Ali Hajizade, one of the leaders of the IRGC:

All the members of the Axis of Resistance are united, and we must unite our efforts to withdraw American forces from the region and destroy the Zionist regime ... The Axis of Resistance is not only Iran, it stretches from the Red Sea to the Mediterranean Sea and from Ansar Alla in Yemen to Hezbollah in Lebanon.

It is clear that Tel Aviv is not enthusiastic about such plans, so they are consistently taking steps to squeeze out the Iranians and their "proxies" from neighboring countries. In addition, Israel, with the demonstrative support of the United States, began to put together an informal regional coalition, restoring relations with a number of Arab states. Diplomatic relations were established with the UAE, and now with Bahrain. In fact, this means Tehran's defeat to create its own coalition of Muslim states, regardless of the dominant trend in Islam, against Israel. The withdrawal of Hezbollah from Syria in this context can also be considered a merit of American and Israeli diplomacy. Taken together, the recognition of Israel by his new "Arab friends" actually gives him carte blanche for the war with Iran and its "proxy" throughout the Middle East. If not today, then tomorrow.

That is why additional strengthening of positions in Lebanon is now necessary for Iran. Recall that at the end of July, another conflict broke out between Israel and Hezbollah. During an IDF air raid on positions south of Damascus, one member of the group was killed. As a result, another border incident occurred between the two states. The Israelis, among other things, fired at the settlement of Kafershuba in southern Lebanon. Fearing just retaliation, Tel Aviv began building up the group on its border. The return of Hezbollah fighters from Syria home will be a natural response from Beirut and Tehran.
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  1. 123 Offline 123
    123 (123) 19 September 2020 12: 41
    +2
    A new government is being formed in Lebanon, the "reformatting" of power is taking place under the auspices of the French, and Macron is there for a reason. Under the new "regime" it may turn out that Hezbollah will have nowhere to return. So it's time to insert a cassette with a recording of Mark Bernes into an old tape recorder and go.

    Oh, the front-track path,
    Any bombing is not terrible for us
    And it’s too early for us to die,
    We still have things to do at home
    1. Binder Offline Binder
      Binder (Miron) 19 September 2020 13: 31
      -1
      I was amused by the offer to listen to the wonderful song of the front-line driver in connection with the upcoming departure of Hezbollah from Syria. Do not forget that the authors of the text are the poets Boris Laskin and Naum Labkovsky and the performer Mark Bernes are Jews, and the Hezbollons relate to the Jews approximately as the SS men once did. In my opinion, the text contains a correct assessment of the situation: the departure of Hezbollah is a victory for the United States and Israel, but the conclusion that the author makes is wrong - the Israelis are not going to start a war with anyone without good reason.
      1. 123 Offline 123
        123 (123) 19 September 2020 14: 12
        -1
        I was amused by the offer to listen to the wonderful song of the front-line driver in connection with the upcoming departure of Hezbollah from Syria. Do not forget that the authors of the text are the poets Boris Laskin and Naum Labkovsky and the performer Mark Bernes are Jews, and the Hezbollons relate to the Jews approximately like the SS men once did. ...

        Once that amused laughing

        In my opinion, the text contains a correct assessment of the situation: the departure of Hezbollah is a victory for the United States and Israel, but the conclusion that the author makes is wrong - the Israelis are not going to start a war with anyone without good reason

        And what did Israel or the United States do? Why is Hezbollah leaving now?
        I don't even want to go into the conclusions, the author and I have a slightly different view of things, everything will end with swearing.
        1. Binder Offline Binder
          Binder (Miron) 19 September 2020 14: 43
          +3
          Quote: 123
          And what did Israel or the United States do? Why is Hezbollah leaving now?

          Below one of the resource visitors formulated part of the answer to your question:

          Quote: 123
          Israel's methodical strikes on pro-Iranian and Iranian targets and groups in Syria yielded results

          More broadly, it should be noted that the military, economic, and diplomatic efforts of the United States and Israel against Iranian expansion in the region are bearing fruit. The Iranians and their proxies, of course, did not begin to treat the Israelis and the Sunnis no less hated by them, of course, but they see that their forces are fading and there are no positive results. In addition, the Persians in the former. Syria has serious disagreements with the Russian military personnel stationed there, which also does not add to their confidence. The process of ousting the Iranians and their satellites from the country is under way. in which, in one way or another, various forces take part, often hostile to each other - Sunni Arabs, Turks, Russians, Americans, Israelis. None of them wants to strengthen the position of the Iranians in the region and will not tolerate a redistribution of spheres of influence in favor of Shiite religious obscurantists.

          Quote: 123
          the author and I have a slightly different view of things, it will all end with abuse.

          I have no intention of swearing with you or the author, I am convinced that the difference of opinion should not result in abuse and insults to the opponent. The ability to conduct a correct dialogue with people decomp. views characterizes the level of intelligence and general culture of a person.
          1. 123 Offline 123
            123 (123) 19 September 2020 15: 13
            0
            Below one of the resource visitors formulated part of the answer to your question:

            Do not pay attention, he has such a role, he constantly exaggerates the merits of a certain circle of countries. But we understand that the situation is more complicated.
            They bombed for so many years, but they left right now. There should have been a straw that broke the back of the camel. I believe this is Macron in Beirut. Note that I am not trying to promote the Kremlin's "diplomatic skill".

            More broadly, it should be noted that the military, economic, and diplomatic efforts of the United States and Israel against Iranian expansion in the region are bearing fruit. The Iranians and their proxies, of course, did not begin to treat the Israelis and the Sunnis no less hated by them, of course, but they see that their forces are fading and there are no positive results. In addition, the Persians in the former. Syria has serious disagreements with the Russian military personnel stationed there, which also does not add to their confidence. The process of ousting the Iranians and their satellites from the country is under way. in which, in one way or another, various forces take part, often hostile to each other - Sunni Arabs, Turks, Russians, Americans, Israelis. None of them wants to strengthen the position of the Iranians in the region and will not tolerate a redistribution of spheres of influence in favor of Shiite religious obscurantists.

            Do not take it for work, look at my answer to the "opponent", I listed an approximate alignment there. Roughly the same, idle time I believe that the last nail was hammered by Macron.
            1. Binder Offline Binder
              Binder (Miron) 19 September 2020 15: 22
              -1
              Quote: 123
              I believe that the last nail was driven by Macron.

              It is quite possible that you are right - the French have long had a significant influence in our region and the active position of President Macron undoubtedly influences current events. This is typical not only in connection with Syria and Lebanon, but also in relation to the Greek-Turkish crisis.
          2. Oyo Sarkazmi Offline Oyo Sarkazmi
            Oyo Sarkazmi (Oyo Sarkazmi) 19 September 2020 17: 13
            -2
            Quote: Bindyuzhnik
            In addition, the Persians in the former. Syria has serious disagreements with the Russian military personnel stationed there,

            Gee. Hezbollah is Arabs, not Persians, for your information. Just as half of the Syrian Arabs are Shiites, and 60% of the population of Iraq is Shiite Arabs, while in Bahrain, Shiites are 92%.
            According to your logic, the Saudis and Israelis are Americans, since the United States supports their slave system?
            1. Binder Offline Binder
              Binder (Miron) 19 September 2020 19: 55
              +1
              Quote: Oo sarcasm
              Gee. Hezbollah is Arabs, not Persians, for your information.

              "Gee" is the most meaningful part of your comment. Shiites make up only 13% of all Syrian Muslims - learn materiel. And be careful - where did you see my statement that the members of Hezbollah are Persians? And about the slave system in Israel - a masterpiece, I will add this statement to my collection! good
      2. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
        Marzhecki (Sergei) 20 September 2020 07: 38
        -5
        Quote: Bindyuzhnik
        In my opinion, the text contains a correct assessment of the situation: the departure of Hezbollah is a victory for the United States and Israel, but the conclusion that the author makes is wrong - the Israelis are not going to start a war with anyone without good reason.

        And when the reason is found - soak everyone, right? wink
        1. Binder Offline Binder
          Binder (Miron) 20 September 2020 15: 12
          0
          Killing non-combatants is not our method.
      3. Michael1950 Offline Michael1950
        Michael1950 (Michael) 20 September 2020 23: 36
        0
        - We just lacked the war! It will greatly help fight COVID-19 and restore the Israeli economy ...
      4. marciz Offline marciz
        marciz (Stas) 22 September 2020 01: 45
        0
        What's so funny !? "And it's too early for us to die, we still have things to do at home" probably this was meant !?
    2. Boris Arbel (Latuha) 19 September 2020 13: 39
      +3
      it's time to put Nasrallah in place, or rather put them in one place so that they don't rock the boat anymore. will jump get any ... th, this is the first.
      second, stop using owls. obsolete expressions like TEL AVIV IS CONCERNED. OUR CAPITAL JERUSALEM. Remember it, whether you like it or not
      1. General Black Offline General Black
        General Black (Gennady) 19 September 2020 14: 53
        0
        Eck, you Boruch got crazy. Streiml straighten yours, otherwise he’s dashing to the back of your head. You have another capital, Birobidzhan, whether you like it or not.
        1. Natan bruk Offline Natan bruk
          Natan bruk (Natan Bruk) 20 September 2020 14: 05
          +1
          In essence, there is nothing to answer? Expected. And about Birobidzhan - there are almost no Jews there and there will not be. Although you can consider it the capital of anything, for us what ...
          1. marciz Offline marciz
            marciz (Stas) 22 September 2020 01: 50
            0
            The impudent vagrants who crucified Christ gave you the land, and you twist your nose, there is no one there and there will be no one for your emissaries have fled all over Russia to drive Russians into chronic poverty, so to speak DERG - Subversive Economic Intelligence Groups
      2. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
        rotkiv04 (Victor) 19 September 2020 21: 17
        -4
        your capital is in the underworld
  2. Cyril Offline Cyril
    Cyril (Kirill) 19 September 2020 14: 08
    0
    Israel's methodical strikes against pro-Iranian and Iranian targets and groups in Syria also produced results.

    Arabs from oil-rich countries, which have grown wiser and richer over the past 50 years, want to interact normally with the most developed and militarily strong state in the region so that their own well-being does not depend only on energy resources. Saudi Arabia is developing high-tech production, Bahrain and the UAE are also trying to keep up.

    And only the Iranians and the plasticines have "Zionist regimes" and other crap in their heads.
    1. 123 Offline 123
      123 (123) 19 September 2020 14: 26
      0
      Israel's methodical strikes against pro-Iranian and Iranian targets and groups in Syria also produced results.

      Hezbollah in Iran is not needed by anyone except Iran. Everyone is trying to bring them back home. The Turks cannot "lose face" and withdraw their checkpoints remaining deep in government-controlled territory. They interfere with Russia’s control of the country and, for sure, during the negotiations on the supply of weapons to Iran, this issue was linked. Assad no longer needs them. The Moor has done his job, he can leave. Israel they ..., but by the way, everything is clear. The US does not need them and Trump can declare their departure as a victory before the elections. Everyone is trying to remove them from there, and for a long time. But they left precisely after the French began to form in Lebanon a new configuration of power that excluded the existence of Hezbollah there.

      But you single out just two countries ... Licked reflexively? wink

      Arabs from oil-rich countries, which have grown wiser and richer over the past 50 years, want to interact normally with the most developed and militarily strong state in the region so that their own well-being does not depend only on energy resources. Saudi Arabia is developing high-tech production, Bahrain and the UAE are also trying to keep up.

      They've grown smarter for 50 years belay And what was the catalyst for mental development? Maybe an empty wallet and not a desire to return to herding camels?

      And only the Iranians and the plasticines have "Zionist regimes" and other crap in their heads.

      I suppose you have this no less. hi
      1. Cyril Offline Cyril
        Cyril (Kirill) 19 September 2020 16: 08
        -2
        But they left precisely after the French began to form a new configuration of power in Lebanon that excluded the existence of Hezbollah there.

        Do you know such a scientific principle as "after - does not mean due"?

        But you single out exactly two countries ...

        Which 2 countries have I highlighted?

        Licked reflexively?

        No, that's your prerogative. Moreover, you do it consciously, and not reflexively. And I just put forward an assumption.

        And what was the catalyst for mental development?

        The availability of money from oil products, a good standard of living, a good education, which they obtain for themselves at the expense of oil money.

        and not wanting to go back to grazing camels?

        It is true, unwillingness to return to the state in which the same Syria or Lebanon is.

        I suppose you have this no less.

        I did not say anything about the "Zionist regimes".
        1. 123 Offline 123
          123 (123) 19 September 2020 16: 59
          0
          Do you know such a scientific principle as "after - does not mean due"?

          If we apply the "scientific principle" then it turns out "Methodical strikes of Israel" have nothing to do with it.

          No, that's your prerogative. Moreover, you do it consciously, and not reflexively. And I just put forward an assumption.

          You do not bite your "guess" smile

          The availability of money from oil products, a good standard of living, a good education, which they obtain for themselves at the expense of oil money.

          There is less and less money from petroleum products, the purchased diploma is not useful. Reserves are melting, assets are being sold. Apparently not in the horse feed.

          It is true, unwillingness to return to the state in which the same Syria or Lebanon is.

          When the Yemeni rebels arrive in Riyadh, no one will ask their wishes. The invaders will get it in full.

          I did not say anything about the "Zionist regimes".

          You have no less crap in your head.
          1. Cyril Offline Cyril
            Cyril (Kirill) 19 September 2020 17: 53
            0
            If we apply the "scientific principle" then it turns out "Methodical strikes of Israel" have nothing to do with it.

            And I didn't say that this was the main reason, that's why I used the word "too". Israel's methodical strikes are depleting the resources of both Iran and Hezbollah itself, so it is quite logical to act as one of the factors that played a role in the latter's withdrawal from Syria.

            You do not bite your "guess"

            How can you bite into words?

            There is less and less money from petroleum products, the purchased diploma is not useful. Reserves are melting, assets are being sold. Apparently not in the horse feed.

            From what? Saudi Arabia has just launched its own space program, which is being worked on not only by foreign contractors, but also by their own specialists. Since the early 2000s, the country's authorities have embarked on a course to diversify the economy, investing in pharmaceuticals, light industry, and non-oil energy. Invest in the creation of national educational institutions, which attract teachers from other countries. Well, tourism, of course.

            When the Yemeni rebels arrive in Riyadh, no one will ask their wishes. The invaders will get it in full.

            laughing When they come, you will use this as an argument :)

            You have no less crap in your head.

            Everything is fine with my head :)
            1. 123 Offline 123
              123 (123) 19 September 2020 18: 15
              -3
              And I didn't say that this was the main reason, that's why I used the word "too". Israel's methodical strikes are depleting the resources of both Iran and Hezbollah itself, so it is quite logical to act as one of the factors that played a role in the latter's withdrawal from Syria.

              ABOUT! But you have identified the "not the main reason" smile Therefore, I remind you about the reflex winked
              It would be logical nevertheless to mention the "main" reason or indicate several, but you preferred to sing praises. laughing

              How can you bite into words?

              The words? Why not thoughts? Take care of your speech apparatus.

              From what? Saudi Arabia has just launched its own space program, which is being worked on not only by foreign contractors, but also by their own specialists.

              Are you talking about an American satellite sent into orbit by the Japanese? laughing The Iranians who, in your opinion, have lobuda, sent their own satellite. Apparently there is still little room for brains left.

              Since the early 2000s, the country's authorities have embarked on a course to diversify the economy, investing in pharmaceuticals, light industry, and non-oil energy. Invest in the creation of national educational institutions, which attract teachers from other countries. Well, tourism, of course.

              And how are the results of diversification? winked

              When they come, you will use this as an argument.

              So here it is? belay
              Then we will wait until the Saudis make their rocket, then you will broadcast about the space power.
              1. Cyril Offline Cyril
                Cyril (Kirill) 19 September 2020 18: 36
                0
                1. Do you again indicate the union "too" in my proposal? Do you know what he means? The other reasons were given by the author, why should I repeat them?

                2. How can you bite an immaterial thought?

                3.
                It is the first Martian satellite of the United Arab Emirates and the Arab world in general. The apparatus was created as part of the collaboration between the Mohammed Ibn Rashid Space Center and the American Laboratory of Atmospheric and Space Physics at the University of Coloradoas well as other organizations such as the University of Arizona and the University of California at Berkeley [9].

                The headquarters of the Muhammad bin Rashid Space Center is located in Al Khawanij, Dubai. The facility also includes a Clean Room for the design and manufacture of various space satellites that MBRSC is working on. [6]

                The Clean Room was built to ensure the smooth execution of all satellite manufacturing projects and the development of the Hope probe [7]. All current projects, including the manufacture of Earth observation satellites, including KhalifaSat and Nayif-1, along with the development of the Hope probe, are performed in a clean room by Emirati engineers[8].

                The Muhammad bin Rashid Space Center works in four main areas to achieve the goals and objectives of the development of the space industry in the region: space exploration, development and production of satellites, Earth exploration using satellite images, and the maintenance of ground stations used to support the operation of satellites [2].

                As for Iran, I do not argue, with space he is great. He would spend less effort and money on "destroying the Zionist regime"; he would not have to wind down his scientific space exploration in 2015. Perhaps he could have launched, as planned, the first Iranian cosmonaut.

                So yes, the "crap" in the heads of the Iranians prevented them from realizing their scientific and technical potential to the fullest.

                And how are the results of diversification?

                Slowly. Do you think the economy of an entire country will change instantly after the words of its leader? This only happens in your rosy reality.

                Then we will wait until the Saudis make their rocket, then you will broadcast about the space power.

                And I never called SA a "space power" - I said that it had started its own space program. Again invent something and "successfully" refute your own inventions. It happens.
                1. 123 Offline 123
                  123 (123) 19 September 2020 19: 41
                  -1
                  Thank you for the tour of the "clean room" and, in general, the center named after Muhammad bin Rashid. What is Bedouin contribution to the program: What besides the nameplate?

                  As for Iran, I do not argue, with space he is great. He would spend less effort and money on "destroying the Zionist regime"; he would not have to wind down his scientific space exploration in 2015. Perhaps he could have launched, as planned, the first Iranian cosmonaut.

                  If the Americans had not organized a coup in Iran, apparently the coming to power of the fundamentalists would never have taken place. And everything could have gone the other way. But the Anlo-Saxons itch exclusivity in the anus.

                  So yes, the "crap" in the heads of the Iranians prevented them from realizing their scientific and technical potential to the fullest.

                  I am embarrassed to ask what prevented the Saudis from launching an astronaut? Excellent education, high standard of living or democratic values? winked

                  And I never called SA a "space power" - I said that it had started its own space program.

                  Well, how it implements it, then you will give it as an example. If I'm not mistaken, you call it the scientific method?

                  In general, these medieval bloodthirsty barbarians are only capable of dismembering journalists.
                  1. Cyril Offline Cyril
                    Cyril (Kirill) 19 September 2020 20: 05
                    +2
                    What is Bedouin contribution to the program: What besides the nameplate?

                    Have you forgotten how to read? Everything was written there in black and white.

                    If the Americans had not organized a coup in Iran, apparently the coming to power of the fundamentalists would never have taken place.

                    Where does the infa come from that the Americans organized the 1979 revolution?

                    I am embarrassed to ask what prevented the Saudis from launching an astronaut? Excellent education, high standard of living or democratic values?

                    Lack of required rocket technology. Iran had medium-range ballistic missiles, which they converted into launch vehicles.

                    Well, by the way, Iran's space program has not advanced beyond satellites with limited functionality. While the spacecraft also has remote sensing satellites, and now the first (albeit joint) interplanetary station.

                    Well, how it implements it, then you will give it as an example. If I'm not mistaken, you call it the scientific method?

                    So the SA is already implementing its space program. Therefore, I am citing it as an example.

                    In general, these medieval bloodthirsty barbarians are only capable of dismembering journalists.

                    Saudi Arabia does not really care about human rights, but the situation is gradually improving - in recent years, indulgences have been introduced regarding women's rights, for example. That is, the SA is slowly but surely getting out of the Middle Ages, while Iran is slowly but surely returning there.
                    1. 123 Offline 123
                      123 (123) 19 September 2020 20: 33
                      -2
                      Have you forgotten how to read? Everything was written there in black and white.

                      Means nothing. So we will write it down. Space conquerors in pajamas laughing
                      You are somehow more demanding towards Rogozin winked

                      Where does the infa come from that the Americans organized the 1979 revolution?

                      Have you forgotten how to read? belay Coup. The overthrow of the democratically elected government. 1953rd year. But somehow the Anglo-Saxon traditions did not take root, the "white Sahibs" were kicked out.

                      Lack of required rocket technology. Iran had medium-range ballistic missiles, which they converted into launch vehicles.

                      Did they also have a satellite? How did the Americans do the same. Yes, and Allah did not give them the rockets. The "well-educated" sadists who have stoned people to this day have not been honored. Apparently "crap" was not enough. repeat

                      Well, by the way, Iran's space program has not advanced beyond satellites with limited functionality. While the spacecraft also has remote sensing satellites, and now the first (albeit joint) interplanetary station.

                      Maybe the sanctions should be lifted? Surely they also slow down the space program? And put them on the Bedouins. And see how they develop. good

                      Saudi Arabia does not really care about human rights, but the situation is gradually improving - in recent years, indulgences have been introduced regarding women's rights, for example. That is, the SA is slowly but surely getting out of the Middle Ages, while Iran is slowly but surely returning there.

                      Tell Khashogi's relatives yes They will surely be interested in listening fool
                      1. Cyril Offline Cyril
                        Cyril (Kirill) 19 September 2020 21: 06
                        0
                        Means nothing. So we will write it down. Space conquerors in pajamas laughing To Rogozin, you are somehow more demanding

                        No, that means that. what I wrote there - the probe was developed by Saudi scientists.
                        URL:

                        https://habr.com/ru/news/t/511660/

                        And here's another:

                        Emirates Mars Mission Team includes 150 engineers from the Emiratesand Omran Sharaf is the project manager; Sara Amiri, Deputy Project Manager; Ibrahim Hamza Al Qasim, Deputy Project Manager for Strategic Planning, and Zakareya Al Shamsi, Deputy Project Manager for Emirates Mars Mission Operations. [

                        It is very easy to google all this. But you don't need that, do you?

                        Have you forgotten how to read?

                        You just need to clarify which of the coups (and the 1979 revolution was also one). you mean. I don't have to guess for you, do I? As for the coup in 1954, yes, I agree, the West is to blame for that.

                        "Did they also have a satellite? How did they do without the Americans."

                        So for you, the satellite is not a criterion for the development of the space program))

                        And Allah did not give them the rockets.

                        Right. They (more precisely, the predecessors-MRBM) were presented to them by North Korea

                        "Well-educated" sadists still stoning people are not worthy of this

                        But they were honored with their interplanetary probe. A much more complex device from a technical point of view than LEO satellites.

                        Maybe the sanctions should be lifted? Surely they also slow down the space program? And put them on the Bedouins. And see how they develop.

                        So if Iran did not develop nuclear weapons and did not threaten to destroy Israel, no one would have imposed sanctions.

                        Tell Khashogi's relatives yes They will surely be interested in listening

                        Did I say somewhere that the SA is doing well with human rights? Not. I said that the situation is slowly improving.
                      2. 123 Offline 123
                        123 (123) 19 September 2020 22: 19
                        -1
                        No, that means that. what I wrote there - the probe was developed by Saudi scientists.

                        Oh PROBE belay This achievement good Mask and Rogozin nervously smoke a hookah on the sidelines laughing The world cosmonautics is ashamed and humiliated. lol
                        Good luck to the Bedouins in the conquest of space, and 150 engineers will help them fellow
                        By the way, your link is not working.

                        It is very easy to google all this. But you don't need that, do you?

                        Why should I? I am almost sure that the probe was also assembled by foreign specialists from imported components under the supervision of those very 150 engineers (through the glass, so that they do not spoil anything with their crooked hands). Try to disappoint me and show me that it is not so laughing

                        You just need to clarify which of the coups (and the 1979 revolution was also one). you mean. I don't have to guess for you, do I? As for the coup in 1954, yes, I agree, the West is to blame for that.

                        August 19, 1953, which 1954? belay There is no need to guess anything, it is enough to know the history at the minimum level. But apparently you didn't have this question on the exam?
                        West? Anlo-Saxons. USA and England. Since then, little has changed, the country is being pressed by sanctions, the current regime is the result of that intervention.
                        And now you are talking about backward Iranians with a "crap" in their heads, though they independently launched a satellite and praise the probe of the "enlightened" Saudis.

                        Right. They (more precisely, the predecessors-MRBM) were presented to them by North Korea

                        Firstly, she didn’t give it, but no one makes gifts, and secondly, "predecessor". The Saudis did not make the "clean room" themselves.

                        But they were honored with their interplanetary probe. A much more complex device from a technical point of view than LEO satellites.

                        Something I already doubt. Details about this "wunderwaflu" do not share?

                        By the way, about ...

                        and now the first (albeit joint) interplanetary station.

                        Here the Air Force reports ...

                        The UAE was the first in the Arab world to send a probe to Mars.

                        https://www.bbc.com/russian/features-53430094



                        Are they the first there in turn, or what? smile Space conquerors laughing

                        So if Iran did not develop nuclear weapons and did not threaten to destroy Israel, no one would have imposed sanctions.

                        What are you talking about? You lie and don't blush. But what about the agreement? Iran refused to develop nuclear weapons, the nuclear program is peaceful, under the control of the IAEA, as usual, the deceitful and dishonest Americans withdrew from the agreement and introduced new sanctions.

                        Did I say somewhere that the SA is doing well with human rights? Not. I said that the situation is slowly improving.

                        So the situation is improving? And in what state is it now, of course you find it difficult to formulate? winked Is it difficult to call a spade a spade? sad
                      3. Cyril Offline Cyril
                        Cyril (Kirill) 20 September 2020 00: 55
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                        Ah ZOND belay It's an achievement

                        Think - yes, an achievement. Manufacturing a spacecraft that will be able to fly to Mars and conduct scientific observations from its orbit is a rather difficult and expensive task even for countries such as the United States or Russia. Ask Rogozin, for example, why they have been developing Luna-25 for so long, since 2013.

                        By the way, your link is not working.

                        She's working. Are you having trouble clicking copy-paste buttons? Old age is not a joy ...

                        Try to disappoint me and show me that it is not so

                        If you have problems finding information, then here you go:

                        https://www.bbc.com/news/business-34790041

                        Quote:

                        "At the Mohammed Bin Rashid Space Center in Dubai, a team of 75 engineers are building the satellite, which is roughly the size of a small car.
                        Dubai's launch date is July 2020, at a point when Earth and Mars are closest to one another
                        They are also making all the components, such as imaging equipment, ultraviolet and infrared spectrometers, solar panels, a star-tracker navigation system and the thrusters that will slow the craft down once it reaches Mars orbit.
                        Everyone on the team is Emirati, and the average age is 32 "

                        https://www.thenational.ae/uae/uae-s-names-mars-probe-hope-1.123110

                        I was only mistaken in one thing - I confused the SA and the UAE. For this I apologize. However, there is little difference between the two countries. Both those and oil-bearing Arabs. therefore they correctly report to the BBC about this mission and had in mind.

                        But what about the agreement? Iran refused to develop nuclear weapons, the nuclear program is peaceful, under the control of the IAEA,

                        But at the same time, they did not abandon the destruction of Israel, did not stop supporting Hezbollah.

                        So the situation is improving? And in what state is it now, of course you find it difficult to formulate? winked Is it hard to call a spade a spade?

                        I'm not at a loss. In the bad. But there is progress in the positive direction.
                      4. 123 Offline 123
                        123 (123) 20 September 2020 02: 00
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                        Think - yes, an achievement. Manufacturing a spacecraft that will be able to fly to Mars and conduct scientific observations from its orbit is a rather difficult and expensive task even for countries such as the United States or Russia.

                        What do the Arabs have to do with it? They were all over it. winked Clowns of a cosmic scale. The Japanese will take you there, the Americans will report it on the spot, and there this "miracle" will work. What observations from orbit? Probe? laughing
                        You are ridiculous and ridiculous trying to talk about astronauts in pajamas. lol Do not disgrace.

                        ask Rogozin, for example, why they have been developing Luna-25 for so long, since 2013.

                        With the same success, you can ask Musk why in 15 years they did not fly to the moon. Only an extremely ignorant person can ask such questions. Rogozin from 2012 to 2014 Chairman of the Marine Collegium under the Government of the Russian Federation.
                        Check out the biography -

                        https://www.roscosmos.ru/26113/

                        She's working. Are you having trouble clicking copy-paste buttons? Old age is not a joy ..

                        You can't insert a normal link, youth is stupidity winked

                        If you have problems finding information, then here you go:

                        Why keep there? Have you tried reading yourself?

                        I was only mistaken in one thing - I confused the SA and the UAE. For this I apologize. However, there is little difference between the two countries. Both those and oil-bearing Arabs. therefore they correctly report to the BBC about this mission and had in mind.

                        Just in case, Iraq and Iran are also different countries. Oh, this is the exam negative
                        So, what is next? Now they are not astronauts yet .... So what about the "crap" in the head of the "highly educated" Saudis?
                        Can you squeeze the truth out of yourself? Or will you continue to resist telling how smart they are, not like the Iranians launching their own satellites? I suppose we figured out the "wiser" ones.
                        How to deal with this? In addition to "want to interact" on all points, the situation is about the same. The "rich" eat up the remaining reserves, sell off assets. The budget is in short supply, the current oil prices do not suit them, and others are not yet expected.

                        who over the past 50 years have noticeably grown wiser and rich, want to normally interact with the most developed and militarily strong state in the region, so that their own well-being does not depend only on energy resources.

                        But at the same time, they did not abandon the destruction of Israel, did not stop supporting Hezbollah.

                        The United States did not abandon the destruction of Iran, taking into account the fact that they staged a coup there, destroyed neighboring Iraq and Syria, against this background, the threats of the Iranians are practically toothless. Moreover, without nuclear weapons, which, by the way, Israel does not have, but if they do something they will not hesitate to use it .... and the US allies. Do you seriously think this is possible? Iran against two nuclear powers?

                        I'm not at a loss. In the bad. But there is progress in the positive direction.

                        Surely, positive progress can be found in the DPRK as well.
                    2. Cyril Offline Cyril
                      Cyril (Kirill) 20 September 2020 01: 01
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                      However, Saudi Arabia is also developing its own satellites, albeit not interplanetary ones. For example:

                      https://mapgroup.com.ua/kosmicheskie-apparaty/111-kosmicheskie-apparaty-sputniki-saudovskoj-aravii/1810-saudisat-5a-5b

                      Quote:

                      The two SaudiSat-5 satellites are fully manufactured and tested to international standards in KACST laboratories by Saudi technicians and engineers with experience in the satellite industry and development.

                      The launch of the two SaudiSat-5 satellites is part of the Kingdom Vision 2030 Economic Reform Initiative, which aims to localize strategic technologies, leverage local content, and empower Saudi youth to gain knowledge of cutting-edge technologies, including satellite development and production.
                    3. 123 Offline 123
                      123 (123) 20 September 2020 02: 03
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                      However, Saudi Arabia is also developing its own satellites, albeit not interplanetary ones.

                      This does not really change the essence of the matter.
  • Oyo Sarkazmi Offline Oyo Sarkazmi
    Oyo Sarkazmi (Oyo Sarkazmi) 19 September 2020 17: 21
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    Quote: Cyril
    It is true, unwillingness to return to the state in which the same Syria or Lebanon is.

    Well, their neighbors were pushed into the state of Syria by color revolutions. Moreover, notorious terrorists were brought to power. The Muslim brothers blew up buses with pilgrims and tourists - yeah, they fought for democracy. Until a killer hiding in Britain set off explosions in the London Underground. Planted? Anyway, I moved to Holland. For a fighter against the pro-Soviet regime.
    1. Cyril Offline Cyril
      Cyril (Kirill) 19 September 2020 18: 02
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      Well, their neighbors were pushed into the state of Syria by color revolutions.

      If these neighbors did not have any internal problems, then no one would have arranged any "color revolutions" there, no matter what they wanted. Even the all-powerful State Department.

      The Muslim brothers blew up buses with pilgrims and tourists - yeah, they fought for democracy.

      That did not prevent the Russian authorities, who are "for prosperity and peace in the Middle East," to behave quite nicely with representatives of Hamas, the militant wing of the Muslim Brotherhood.

      This is not to say that Russia is so bad, and the rest are good - no. This is what I mean. that before blaming others for encouraging terrorists, you should look at your country.

      And, if you already clung to democracy, yes, the trick of this political system is that radicals can come to power, if they have the support of the population. But why the radicals in Egypt had such support from the population - these are questions not to the "democratizers", but to the previous authorities.
      1. Oyo Sarkazmi Offline Oyo Sarkazmi
        Oyo Sarkazmi (Oyo Sarkazmi) 20 September 2020 14: 11
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        Quote: Cyril
        it is quite nice to behave with representatives of Hamas

        Hamas, as the winner of the elections in the Gaza Strip, quite legally receives 250 million euros for administrative purposes. Another 250 million are received by Arafat's people in the West Bank of Jordan.
        laughing Israel receives $ 4 billion from the United States, and the Palestinians receive € 500 million from the EU. In general, burn clearly, so as not to go out.
  • Nikolay Malyugin (Nikolai Malyugin) 20 September 2020 09: 14
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    Yesterday. This is not crap; you just need to take a sober look at when the Middle East problem appeared at all.
  • Alexzn Online Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) 19 September 2020 15: 25
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    Everything is much simpler. The main reason is the fatigue of the military wing, which is quite natural for a grouping in a foreign country, away from home. Resources, their limitations. Tired of the Hezbollah of the local population, not the best relations with the Turks and Russians. And, of course, they still have things to do at home ...
    1. 123 Offline 123
      123 (123) 19 September 2020 18: 30
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      Everything is much simpler. The main reason is the fatigue of the military wing, which is quite natural for a grouping in a foreign country, away from home. Resources, their limitations. Tired of the Hezbollah of the local population, not the best relations with the Turks and Russians. And, of course, they also have things to do at home.

      Naturally, all this affects yes It is rather difficult to single out one of the factors as decisive or dominant.
  • gorenina91 Offline gorenina91
    gorenina91 (Irina) 19 September 2020 15: 44
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    - Personally, I did not understand the phrase:

    In fact, this means Tehran's defeat to create its own coalition of Muslim states, regardless of the dominant trend in Islam, against Israel.

    - As for Libya ... Turkey's position there is absolutely clear ...
    - And so the "failed heroic actions" of Egypt in Libya (for which the mighty Egypt could not dare) ... are also more or less understandable ...
    - But .. if Hezbollah "returns" to Libya ... - Where and how will its (Hezbollah) position be "lost" ... between the positions of Turkey and the positions of "brave" Egypt ... - On whose side ??? - And the positions ... - Haftar and Saraj ... - On whose side ???
    - Actually ... - on whose side this Hezbollah might be ??? -Could it be that France was going to "quietly" use Hezbollah ??? -Although for such a weak and worthless politician ... like Macron, this is too strong a move ...
    - And about Russia, there is only one thing to say ... - Russia spent so many years in Syria "in dowry girls"; spent so much effort and money ... and everything is in vain ... - And when a very profitable game (game) begins in Libya; then ... then ... then it turns out that Russia is absolutely not ready for it ... -Even France is beating Russia in this matter ... -Unless ... Russia will be able to supply a small batch of Russian weapons ... and that's it ... -Basically, for Russia in Libya, everything can be reduced to a "position" ... - "at a broken trough" ... -Russia has no "clues" in Libya ...
    1. Binder Offline Binder
      Binder (Miron) 19 September 2020 16: 01
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      Quote: gorenina91
      -And ... if Hezbollah "returns" to Libya ...

      Madam, you still make mine very funny - you confused Lebanon with Libya. lol
      1. gorenina91 Offline gorenina91
        gorenina91 (Irina) 19 September 2020 17: 24
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        Madam, you still make mine very funny - you confused Lebanon with Libya.

        - Yes., You are right ... - Will not "come back"; and "will be applied" in Libya ... - it meant this ... -And in Lebanon, Hezbollah has nothing to do now ... - It's good that "you are mistaking me; when I am recovering ..." ...
        - And about

        you still make mine very funny

        - So here someone "from your" made even more funny:

        TEL AVIV IS CONCERNED. OUR CAPITAL JERUSALEM. Remember it, whether you like it or not

        - And yet, long ago, Crimea became a Russian territory; and Israel all his someone else considers ... -Is it not Israeli ??? -Probably the Jews are not very good at doing very funny ... - Here is Yershalaim (if you remember Bulgakov's "Master and Margarita") ... is Crimea, which itself acquired its status ...
        -And then ... - already everything is "funny on the contrary" ......
        1. Binder Offline Binder
          Binder (Miron) 19 September 2020 19: 59
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          Quote: gorenina91
          Crimea became Russian territory; and Israel still considers him someone else ...

          Among the Israelis, there are different opinions about the ownership of Crimea, there are also those who consider the peninsula to be Russian ...
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            1. Binder Offline Binder
              Binder (Miron) 19 September 2020 22: 08
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              Madam, I have already reported somehow that I am not engaged in setting the minuses, as well as pluses. So on this issue - not to me ...
          2. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
            Marzhecki (Sergei) 20 September 2020 07: 36
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            Quote: Bindyuzhnik
            Among the Israelis, there are different opinions about the ownership of Crimea, there are also those who consider the peninsula to be Russian ...

            The opinion of the Israelis on the ownership of Crimea is irrelevant. What matters is the actual state of affairs.
            1. Natan bruk Offline Natan bruk
              Natan bruk (Natan Bruk) 20 September 2020 14: 25
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              That's right - as well as the opinion of the Russians about the Golan. The actual state of affairs matters.
      2. Oyo Sarkazmi Offline Oyo Sarkazmi
        Oyo Sarkazmi (Oyo Sarkazmi) 19 September 2020 17: 24
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        Sho you want, at the top - deep midnight. The Observer Sergeant is sleeping. You can also take a nap for the operator on duty.
  • Alexzn Online Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) 19 September 2020 21: 59
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    Again the question arose about Crimea ... It seems like a long time ago the discussion about ownership was filmed out of the box. Only the legality of the acquisition can be the subject of a dispute.
    As for the position of Israel, we recognize the situation de facto.
  • slesarg65 Offline slesarg65
    slesarg65 (Igor Ivanov) 20 September 2020 03: 17
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    Two stinky cockroaches - Jews and Americans. Who will get our first pears?
    1. Natan bruk Offline Natan bruk
      Natan bruk (Natan Bruk) 20 September 2020 14: 40
      +1
      Go to bed.
    2. Danila46 Offline Danila46
      Danila46 (Daniel) 24 September 2020 21: 04
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      said the wood louse, and dived into the mud ...
  • ***
    Lord, forgive all the voluntary and involuntary sins of your unworthy servants, have mercy and save the long-suffering Syrian people!
    Eliminate all confusion and hatred in Syria, extinguish the anger of our enemies, prevent them from doing evil and turn them to repentance.
    Grant peace and prosperity to the Syrian country, deliver it from grave troubles and misfortunes.
    Give consolation to the mourning, admonition to the lost; in enmity with beings the world descended; those who doubt the faith, confirm; raise up the fallen; save the innocent; and put a limit to the people, by whose works sin entered the world.
    ***
  • Alexzn Online Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) 20 September 2020 11: 11
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    Quote: Marzhetsky
    Quote: Bindyuzhnik
    Among the Israelis, there are different opinions about the ownership of Crimea, there are also those who consider the peninsula to be Russian ...

    The opinion of the Israelis on the ownership of Crimea is irrelevant. What matters is the actual state of affairs.

    At least a stupid statement. It matters, like the opinion of any country, especially important. The world is, after all, an interconnected system.