"We will capture Moscow again": the Poles are thinking about the war with Russia


A real Russophobic Sabbath took place on the Polish website Niezalezna.pl. It was started by the editor-in-chief of Gazeta Polska and Gazeta Polska Codziennie Tomasz Sakevich, who was somehow supported by a number of online commentators for publication.


Any fantasies that Russia will become an alternative ally, or that it is possible to maintain a balance between Russia and the United States, in themselves teeters on the brink of betrayal

- Mr. Sakevich told the publication.

So he commented on the Russian-Belarusian military maneuvers "Slavic Brotherhood" that are taking place near Brest in the west of the republic, not far from the Polish border.

There is only one country in the world that is planning a war with Poland. Its name is the Russian Federation

- said Sakevich to Niezalezna.pl, answering the question about these maneuvers.

He expressed the opinion that "the exercises include, among other things, practicing aiming nuclear warheads at Polish cities, capturing them, destroying Polish troops and some actions against civilians."

No one, except Russia, currently poses a military threat to Poland. Nobody else forces us to spend huge sums on the army. And we must finally start taking into account all those who support the media associated with the Kremlin, as well as welcome Russian propaganda at different levels, because sooner or later they will cause serious damage to Poland.

- he concluded.

Comments from Polish readers (selected):

Well, let them train. All the same, they will be shoveled. The vastness of the future of Russia - several provinces around Moscow

- writes a Polish user with the nickname BOLSZEWIKA GOŃ.

Training and equipping every Pole is the only way to protect yourself. As soon as they come to us, they will have to look around, they will be afraid to enter our houses, they will not be able to sleep peacefully, every bush and every tree will make them fear

- says a certain OMB.

[…] The Poles beat the Bolsheviks in 1920, although the latter had military superiority. Therefore, nothing prevents from repeating everything, occupying Moscow (we are talking about the Polish-Lithuanian occupation of Moscow in 1610-1612 - ed.), And then liquidating statehood, because the morale in their army is as low as ever, and people hate power Putin

- writes another anonymous author.

In the next 10 years, the Polish army will be able to repel a conventional attack on its own! The next step is the possession of nuclear weapons, which can destroy a couple of major cities in retaliation! Perhaps further we will get a strong Polish army, which can even repeat the capture of Moscow in 1610 and create a democratic system for ruling Russia!

- Wojskowy dreams. The post was written in response to a previous comment.

They are always in fear of the invasion of the Polish army, therefore they even sleep in felt boots and live in horror in front of Poland, the Polish master who [...] is able to make them work instead of lying in dugouts in a state of alcoholic intoxication [...]

- reads an anonymous commentary of a clearly chauvinistic sense.

When the Americans convince Russia to be on their side in the conflict with China, perhaps in exchange for influence in Eastern and Central Europe, how will Mr. Tomas sing?

- interested in Ambroży Młoszczep – Leś.
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  1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 17 September 2020 17: 23
    +7
    It is known that today Poland is militarily very weak, that even Belarus is possibly stronger militarily, so what kind of war with the Russian Federation with such military impotence, only about fear against the Russian Federation, therefore, by all means, the Polish government invites the American Armed Forces to its constant presence ...
  2. 123 Offline 123
    123 (123) 17 September 2020 17: 24
    +9
    Subsidies are running out, so they are seething, looking for someone to surrender to captivity. Grunt somewhere you need to.
    1. Digital error Offline Digital error
      Digital error (Eugene) 17 September 2020 18: 54
      +8
      Quote: 123
      Subsidies are ending

      Drop stereotypes, let's turn to the original source:

      There is only one country in the world that is planning a war with Poland. Its name is the Russian Federation

      First, planning military operations against a NATO member state is natural for the CSTO and it should be so.
      Secondly, who else, besides the Russian Federation, is capable of carrying out justified effective planning (which will be appreciated in Poland) of military operations against Poland - is it really Ukraine / Belarus / Kazakhstan?
      Therefore - 1) yes, we plan and not without reason, 2) yes, we plan efficiently, hence the Polish fears.
      1. 123 Offline 123
        123 (123) 17 September 2020 19: 15
        +6
        The source? belay

        First, planning military operations against a NATO member state is natural for the CSTO and it should be so.

        It is natural for any country, otherwise people pretending to be military should be driven away.

        Secondly, who else, besides the Russian Federation, is capable of carrying out justified effective planning (which will be appreciated in Poland) of military operations against Poland - is it really Ukraine / Belarus / Kazakhstan?

        Why are you not satisfied with the option of Belarus? The military potential is comparable. Poland is subversive and interferes in the internal affairs of the country. The motive is there. If they underestimate it, it is only because of the eternal Polish arrogance.

        Therefore - 1) yes, we plan and not without reason, 2) yes, we plan efficiently, hence the Polish fears.

        Everyone is planning and everything is no less effective. Found something to surprise.
        Themselves shit and now they are afraid to answer, that is the reason for Polish fears. Finns, on the other hand, do not fight hysterically, but live peacefully for themselves.
        1. Digital error Offline Digital error
          Digital error (Eugene) 17 September 2020 19: 23
          -1
          Quote: 123
          Found something to surprise.

          I actually didn't try. The bottom line is that - based on your comment, we basically agree on this issue. But I, in your opinion, "liberda" - so I have to argue lol
          This is what will ultimately inevitably destroy the "Putin vertical" - disrespect for the opponent's opinion, regardless of how it was justified
          (point 1. The boss is always right
          point 2. If the boss is wrong - see point 1.)
          1. 123 Offline 123
            123 (123) 17 September 2020 19: 40
            +4
            I actually didn't try. The bottom line is that - based on your comment, we basically agree on this issue. But I, in your opinion, "liberda" - so I have to argue

            Basically agree on what?
            You say that we are the main threat to Poland and its fears are well-founded. And Belarus is not dangerous for her.
            I affirm that it is Belarus that she should be afraid of first of all, because Poland has been strenuously crap for her lately. And we don’t need them for nothing, even if they aren’t stuffed into captivity.
            Only a liberda can regard this as "agreement in principle." And you are still unhappy that this is exactly what I call you? winked

            This is what will ultimately inevitably destroy the "Putin vertical" - disrespect for the opponent's opinion, regardless of how it was justified

            Reality must be respected, the opponent's opinion deserves attention if it is based on facts and has developed as a result of analysis. The opinion of all sorts of urban madmen with rather strange justifications is worthy only a smile smile
            That is why you do not have a chance to survive to the collapse of this very vertical. Will forever remain in the ranks of the 3% opposition hi
            1. Digital error Offline Digital error
              Digital error (Eugene) 17 September 2020 19: 52
              -2
              Quote: 123
              The opinion of all sorts of urban madmen with rather strange justifications is worthy only a smile

              It would be your wish - the voters of Novosibirsk and Tomsk, as far as I know, who voted for the representatives of Navalny, should be forcibly cured - right?

              Quote: 123
              She should be afraid of Belarus, first of all, because Poland has been intensely shit for her lately

              That sho you say - Belarus (if desired, without the support of the CSTO) is capable of occupying Poland? Yes, my friend, you are not only a dreamer, but also a provocateur lol

              Quote: 123
              you are still unhappy that this is what I call you

              I am completely lilac, as you call me, purely terminological interest. From denial of covid-19, the objective incidence of covid-19 did not decrease despite the number of "community-acquired pneumonia".
              1. 123 Offline 123
                123 (123) 17 September 2020 20: 05
                +3
                It would be your wish - the voters of Novosibirsk and Tomsk, as far as I know, who voted for the representatives of Navalny, should be forcibly cured - right?

                That the American agent won there? Is there a clone in Sharite?

                That sho you say - Belarus (if desired, without the support of the CSTO) is capable of occupying Poland? Yes, my friend, you are not only a dreamer, but also a provocateur

                Why occupy it? Who wants to feed the parasites? Let Merkel sit on her neck. Belarus is quite capable of knocking out the teeth of the gentry. As a reference urban madman, even the military potential of the two countries did not bother to compare. yes
                What does the CSTO have to do with it? Why am I a provocateur and where did I say that?
                You are an ordinary liar laughing

                I am completely lilac, as you call me, purely terminological interest.

                I'm just stating a fact.

                From the denial of covid-19, the objective incidence of covid-19 did not decrease despite the number of "community-acquired pneumonia"

                Oh, those Poles. and then they chemically?
                1. Digital error Offline Digital error
                  Digital error (Eugene) 17 September 2020 20: 35
                  +2
                  Quote: 123
                  That the American agent won there? Is there a clone in Sharite?

                  The answer to this question is - will it be?

                  Quote: 123
                  military potential of the two countries compare

                  - why two? "all the worlds" - have you forgotten? Can you provide any information on the countries' membership in NATO / CSTO, or not comme il faut? lol

                  Quote: 123
                  You are an ordinary liar

                  Well, of course, how could it be otherwise;) Especially in the fact that the population of Poland is 4-5 times more than the population of Belarus, which is why the Republic of Belarus easily occupies toothless Poland;) But this, of course, is a reference comparison;)

                  Quote: 123
                  and then they cheat?

                  The response to COVID-19 in Russia was unprecedented, the country is leading the world in the number of tests conducted, said Melita Vujnovich, WHO representative in the Russian Federation. “What can we say about the response to COVID-19, it was absolutely unprecedented. The huge response of the entire system, the entire government, at all levels, hthis made it possible to clearly see the number of infected... Russia is one of the leading in the world in the number of tests carried out "

                  Well, we saw the number of infected. What did it give us - in terms of fighting the pandemic? The rationale for the transition to self-education and self-medication for the poor and a tax increase for smokers "due to the cost of the pandemic" by 20% from January 1, 2020? lol
                  1. 123 Offline 123
                    123 (123) 17 September 2020 21: 45
                    +3
                    The answer to this question is - will it be?

                    I have no desire to look for voting results in Tomsk and Novosibirsk. Present "victory", there will be something to talk about.

                    why two? "all the worlds" - have you forgotten? Can you provide any information on the countries' membership in NATO / CSTO, or not comme il faut?

                    What for? Indeed, NATO has a numerical superiority in equipment and manpower. But that doesn't stop you from thinking that crazy Russians will attack Poland. If a conflict arises between Poland and Belarus, it is not a fact that this will lead to a global war. Whether NATO wants to get in there at the risk of a conflict with Russia is a question.

                    Well, of course, how could it be otherwise;) Especially in the fact that the population of Poland is 4-5 times more than the population of Belarus, which is why the Republic of Belarus easily occupies toothless Poland;) But this, of course, is a reference comparison;)

                    It is not the population but the army that is fighting. Didn't bother to compare? Or are you waiting for mobilization, sitting in trenches, bayonet attacks? I repeat, you are sneakily slipping me into the "occupation" of Poland. You shouldn't attribute this to me.

                    Well, we saw the number of infected. What did it give us - in terms of fighting the pandemic? The rationale for the transition to self-education and self-medication for the poor and a tax increase for smokers "due to the cost of the pandemic" by 20% from January 1, 2020?

                    What kind of nonsense are you talking about? Where is the number of infected here? What does "community-acquired pneumonia" have to do with it? What are smokers and self-medication?
                    Convincing requests do not write me such nonsense.
                    Go to the entrance to glue leaflets with your propaganda. negative
                    1. Digital error Offline Digital error
                      Digital error (Eugene) 17 September 2020 22: 05
                      0
                      Quote: 123
                      Show "victory", there will be something to talk about

                      I don't have to show you anything - google (Yandex) to help. I do not need conversations on this topic, there is nothing to discuss here.

                      Quote: 123
                      It doesn't stop you from thinking that crazy Russians will attack Poland

                      I am just sure that the Russians will not attack, being afraid to get guaranteed "soup" for the sake of absurd acquisitions. However, think, however patriotic you like, our country is free.

                      Quote: 123
                      It is not the population but the army that is fighting. Didn't bother to compare?

                      I just got bored. Belarus has more weapons. And manpower is 5 times less. The only thing that can save her is our obligations under the CSTO, otherwise Poland's obligations to NATO will outweigh. I hope you are not so stupid (dreamy) as to deny that in a war with conventional weapons, we will overcome the cumulative NATO.

                      Quote: 123
                      you sneakily give me

                      I am not slipping anything into you or anyone else. I ask questions.

                      Quote: 123
                      Go

                      Don't tell me where to go and I won't tell you where to go to you lol One must be more tolerant, more tolerant, kinder - this is how the Church teaches.
                      1. 123 Offline 123
                        123 (123) 17 September 2020 22: 24
                        +2
                        I don't have to show you anything - google (Yandex) to help. I do not need conversations on this topic, there is nothing to discuss here.

                        Well, no victory means there is nothing to discuss. Your communication is weird. You make some vague hints, in order to understand what is at stake, you need to find information and only then answer.

                        I am just sure that the Russians will not attack, being afraid to get guaranteed "soup" for the sake of absurd acquisitions. However, think, however patriotic you like, our country is free.

                        But at the same time, you consider the fears reasonable. However, this is normal for venal liberoids.

                        I just got bored. Belarus has more weapons. And manpower is 5 times less. The only thing that can save her is our obligations under the CSTO, otherwise Poland's obligations to NATO will outweigh. I hope you are not so stupid (dreamy) as to deny that in a war with conventional weapons, we will overcome the cumulative NATO.

                        In the army of Belarus there are about 65 thousand, of which there are about 40 thousand military personnel. In Poland there are about 100 thousand. What is the 5 times superiority in manpower?
                        please re-read my previous comment. there is no desire to repeat the same thing. It makes you feel like talking to a tree hi

                        I am not slipping anything into you or anyone else. I ask questions.

                        And at the same time you slip the thesis that Belarus is going to occupy Poland.

                        Don't tell me where to go and I won't tell you where to go. You have to be more tolerant, more tolerant, kinder - this is what the Church teaches, mind you.

                        Tolerance to happiness has not yet touched my mind, on occasion I can answer accordingly. Barracks communication skills are not completely lost. I guess we understood each other. You don't fuss your propaganda, I don't show the direction hi
                        Should you talk about the church? You are an atheist who dreams of destroying it. Is this what they teach you?
                    2. Digital error Offline Digital error
                      Digital error (Eugene) 17 September 2020 22: 16
                      0
                      Quote: 123
                      glue leaflets with your propaganda

                      Be careful - in 5-10 years (possibly earlier) you will have to run around the entrances and post flyers - a physiological fact. There is almost no politics here - this is a "conflict between fathers and children" - children no longer want to live according to their father's precepts, and fathers are unable to force them. The sooner you and others like you realize this, the more "velvet" the paradigm shift will take place.
                      But you are not ready to accept the inevitable - now Sechin's press secretary is talking about depriving young people of voting rights, otherwise "we risk losing the country." Naturally, you will lose her - as you know her now. So humble yourself in the power of physiology, or do you believe that you will live forever? request
                      1. 123 Offline 123
                        123 (123) 17 September 2020 22: 29
                        +1
                        Be careful - in 5-10 years (possibly earlier) you will have to run around the entrances and post flyers - a physiological fact. There is almost no politics here - this is a "conflict between fathers and children" - children no longer want to live according to their father's precepts, and fathers are unable to force them. The sooner you and others like you realize this, the more "velvet" the paradigm shift will take place.

                        Your pardigm for the European Caliphate. Here people like you will be outcasts and renegades in the century of centuries.

                        But you are not ready to accept the inevitable - now Sechin's press secretary is talking about depriving young people of voting rights, otherwise "we risk losing the country." Naturally, you will lose her - as you know her now. So humble yourself in the power of physiology, or do you believe that you will live forever?

                        You won't live to see this. The renegade does not last long.
                      2. shinobi Offline shinobi
                        shinobi (Yuri) 19 September 2020 04: 59
                        +1
                        You will lose your country. Why all of a sudden? This song sounds from the moment of Putin's "Munich speech" and somehow portends little change. Youth say. And who is this? Boys and girls under 20 who do not want to live in the old way? and dad support you. An independent life quickly puts their brains in place and they turn into a gray, apolitical mass. Yes, and as journalistic investigations show, they earn money for beer and cigarettes in this way. He stood there, shouted, cut off the money and into a hole. views come down to a simple desire for a lifelong freebie. So there is no need to frighten the young generation here. It was already.
  3. steelmaker Online steelmaker
    steelmaker 17 September 2020 17: 28
    +3
    Why do we need them? Their hatred of Russia is on the verge of insanity. For such, we have special clinics and ward No. 6.
  4. look, psheki got carried away! It was already scary, oh!
  5. Dmitry S. Offline Dmitry S.
    Dmitry S. (Dmitry Sanin) 17 September 2020 18: 32
    +6
    A pipe - in the ass, and puff out supporters and opponents. Poles are always the same: kicked - fly, crushed - whisper, hit - agreed. Boring.
  6. AICO Offline AICO
    AICO (Vyacheslav) 17 September 2020 18: 40
    0
    Make sure that the "balls" from the "grips" do not roll out through the legs, otherwise they will jam with a stake - and not there, and not here !!!
  7. goncharov.62 Offline goncharov.62
    goncharov.62 (Andrei) 17 September 2020 18: 51
    +3
    Ambition, arrogance and stupidity, coupled with unconsciousness - and all in one bottle ... What is the strength, brother? (c)
  8. bear040 Offline bear040
    bear040 17 September 2020 19: 08
    +4
    Well, Poland in Russia is loved even less by the drunkard Boris Yeltsin. You wouldn't have to regret again, gentlemen Poles, that you were spoiling Russia. We do not need your Warsaw, but you yourself are asking for a war with the Russian Federation, directly begging for a dozen other nuclear strikes on Poland with tactical nuclear warheads that will set your brains out.
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  10. Slavenin82 Offline Slavenin82
    Slavenin82 (Vyacheslav) 17 September 2020 20: 05
    0
    they will have to look around, they will be afraid to enter our houses, they will not be able to sleep peacefully, every bush and every tree will make them fear ...

    The commentator described the current state of the Poles ... laughing
  11. BMP-2 Offline BMP-2
    BMP-2 (Vladimir V.) 17 September 2020 21: 03
    +2
    Announcement: Private Enterprise "Center for Historical Reconstruction Ivan S." invites foreign guests to take part in educational walking tours in the forest to the outskirts of Moscow. 100% guarantee of historical accuracy! The price is negotiable. Conditions: full prepayment and self-exit.
  12. antibi0tikk Offline antibi0tikk
    antibi0tikk (Sergei) 17 September 2020 22: 14
    +1
    will be afraid to enter our houses

    we have POLITE little green men, but if they begin to be rude, the actions are worked out: a grenade in an open door, then a turn from AKM. to the next house. it would be better for them to sit quietly, Russia has a long list of presenting these mongrels.
  13. Sergey Nord Offline Sergey Nord
    Sergey Nord (Sergey Nord) 17 September 2020 22: 42
    +5
    Do not be ridiculous .. the clerics at all times attacked only weakened Russia, both in the Time of Troubles and in the Civil War. All her other assaults ended badly for her. Yes, and they are not fighters, uncle Hitler scattered them like shkets rustling in someone else's garden ..
  14. belloff Offline belloff
    belloff (bell off) 18 September 2020 00: 19
    +4
    How wretched they are! 128 thousandth army wants to capture Moscow? Poles have a strange memory, (I'll be polite) I won't talk about the size of the Russian army.
    eh ... the Poles were not lucky in the Smolensk region, eh they were not lucky! After all, 2010 is remembered, everything will not calm down! and still sigismund raking in the Smolensk region, we, Smolensk know.
    the population of Smolensk is almost three times larger than their entire Polish army, you need to know this. and Smolyans also have an antipathy on a historical basis. and after all, a path from a misunderstanding through our city. City - Key Smolensk!
    sadness
    logic is no longer a normal state of mind, but rather nonsense in the united "disabled old lady". makes the people smaller in reason, becomes smaller.
    well ... there is enough space for everyone
  15. g1washntwn Offline g1washntwn
    g1washntwn (George Washington) 18 September 2020 06: 25
    +1
    Shoigu most likely not only came to Belarus for training. Therefore, the Poles are shaking their "intellectually underdeveloped" so that after the snatched away luli begin to shout "And we are for sho!" and "We told you what kind of aggressors they are." The evil in them is like dirt on a piglet, provocations on their part are not excluded.
  16. Ivancarafuto Offline Ivancarafuto
    Ivancarafuto (Ivan) 18 September 2020 08: 09
    +1
    Russia, unlike Poland, is not an American puppet with an army armed with old stuff from all over the world. Russia, if Poland has forgotten a nuclear power, after a collision with which Poland and the Poles will remain in a radioactive desert or territory plowed up by craters. Poland has proven its not only uselessness but even harmful
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  18. Vyacheslav_5 Offline Vyacheslav_5
    Vyacheslav_5 (Vyacheslav Slinkin) 18 September 2020 10: 30
    +1
    Oh my God . And this is Europe, where Ukrainians squeak and climb? What poor people, not only that they are not educated, they are also illiterate. This is the "Europa".
  19. margo Offline margo
    margo (margo) 18 September 2020 16: 34
    +1
    Poles thought about war with Russia

    - only a schizophrenic could write this, you can not read further
  20. Siberian southerner (Sergey A) 18 September 2020 18: 56
    +1
    laughing What are they watered with? Well, you have to think of something like that, they will come and behind every bush a Polish hero with fear ...
  21. shinobi Offline shinobi
    shinobi (Yuri) 19 September 2020 04: 41
    0
    Here are woodpeckers. NATO says that it will not be able to repel a Russian attack on Eastern Europe, but these are going to fight! Why are they smoking there?
  22. Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov 19 September 2020 08: 00
    +1
    Polish ambition is a complex mass and individual psychopathological phenomenon inherent in the Poles, and characterizing the foreign policy of Poland.

    (Material from the free Russian encyclopedia Tradition)

    Sections of the Commonwealth:

    - The first section of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth in 1772,
    - The second section of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth in 1793,
    - The third section of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth in 1795;
    - Vienna Congress of 1815, sometimes referred to as the fourth partition of Poland;
    - The non-aggression pact between Germany and the Soviet Union in 1939 is called either the fourth or the fifth partition of Poland.

    (From Wikipedia - the free encyclopedia)
  23. koin.samuil Offline koin.samuil
    koin.samuil (Samuel) 22 September 2020 08: 26
    +1
    As Churchill once said, Poland is the hyena of Europe. Remember the jackal from the cartoon Mowgli? So earlier the role of Sher Khan was with Hitler, and now with the United States. But the jackal is always the same Poland.
  24. Aleksey Glotov Offline Aleksey Glotov
    Aleksey Glotov (alexey glotov) 24 September 2020 06: 33
    0
    The comments of the Poles are reminiscent of scenes from the ward of an insane asylum.
  25. ZSW Offline ZSW
    ZSW (Sergey Zverintsev) 24 September 2020 17: 00
    0
    I think after the first hostile statement, there will be a dead field from Poland. Maybe this is laid down historically? Poland is a field.
  26. Yurets Offline Yurets
    Yurets (Yuri) 25 September 2020 04: 41
    0
    Why shouldn't the Poles seize Washington at once ?!
  27. Pound Offline Pound
    Pound (Alexander) 26 September 2020 13: 42
    0
    Paranoia rules, poor psheks, they generally survived from their minds ...
  28. amateur Offline amateur
    amateur (Victor) 2 October 2020 09: 47
    0

    Let the occupation of Russia begin with the demolition of the Stalinist skyscraper in Warsaw! fool
  29. Barmaley_2 Offline Barmaley_2
    Barmaley_2 (Barmaley) 28 October 2020 03: 30
    +1
    I can’t understand the logic of the p.sh.eks and why do they even need a collapsed Russian Federation? What do they want to fuck with this? The Germans will definitely take back Kaliningrad. The Poles don’t have any more border with the Russian Federation. They don’t have oil and gas for nothing. Poland's trade with the Russian Federation is scanty (2.5-3% export-import in 2019), credit, etc. there are almost no obligations and the Russian Federation does not force them to anything, etc. They stupidly, hike, want to amuse their pride and, like, take revenge for the partitions of Poland, then, or what?