Paul Craig Roberts: Russia managed to fall into the trap by giving Navalny to Germany

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During a flight from Tomsk to Moscow on August 20, Alexei Navalny, one of the leaders of the Russian non-systemic opposition, felt unwell and was urgently hospitalized in one of the hospitals in Omsk. Two days later, he was transported to Berlin, to the Charite clinic. According to a political scientist at the American Institute political Economy (Institute for Political Economy) by Paul Craig Roberts, Russia has driven itself into a trap by allowing Navalny to travel to Germany.

The Russian government managed to fall into a specially prepared trap of the West, having given permission for Alexei Navalny to leave for Germany. The plane with the politician urgently landed in Omsk, where he received first aid. But the "opposition figures" sitting on the payroll of Washington announced the poisoning of Navalny and insisted on sending him to Berlin and conducting an investigation. Here the Russian government found itself in a situation where everyone understood that German medicine is better than Russian. And also the fact that it was dangerous for Navalny to remain in Omsk. Why didn't the Kremlin think that the Germans controlled by the USA could accuse Russia of poisoning the oppositionist on orders from the top?

Roberts exclaims.



Appealing to the reason of the Russian authorities, the American political scientist wonders why they allow the West to put forward unfounded accusations and take a knowingly losing position:

If the Russian special services wanted the death of the opposition leader, why did they need to urgently land in Omsk - why was Navalny not allowed to die right on the plane? When it comes to propaganda, logic and facts are irrelevant. When will Russians start learning from their own and others' mistakes? The Russian invasion of Ukraine, the poisoning of the Skripals, the attack of the MH-17 plane, interference in the American elections, payment for the killing of US military personnel by the Afghan Taliban - how much more will Russia be accused of all mortal sins? Russians keep making excuses with no end in sight

- believes Paul Craig Roberts.

According to the analyst, there was no point in accusing Putin of trying to poison Navalny - after all, it was in Russia that his life was saved. It is better for the Kremlin to ignore any accusations against it and stop answering them, so as not to contribute to fanning lies.
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  1. beeper
    beeper
    +2
    31 August 2020 18: 58
    Never American, but came to the same conclusions as Paul Craig Roberts!
    The Kremlin is badly holding the Goebbels' "blow", do not act ahead of the curve, and react too slowly to "introductory"!
    And therefore, they cannot counter-propagandistically beat even an initially advantageous situation (who interfered with the Kremlin immediately, as soon as the "radio from the plane" arrived, promptly - ahead of the rest of the planet, before any "unwilling" Western magazines, officially and authoritatively "declare" publicly, "to disperse the wave" in all Russian media, an emergency release-interrupting TV programs for the message, on the first page and in large text, a "working version" about "provocation of the Western special services with the poisoning of Russian citizen Alexei Nakhalny", and then look for the truth ??! After all-alager com alager !!!) and often find themselves in the position of justifying "endured", alas! request
    It's a shame for the Russian State, however!
    The Kremlin should be angrier and more aggressive, otherwise the chickens (like Pudila's chicken from the Polish "Nehta") will rake in such a passive attitude of reaction and "expressing concerns"!
    IMHO
    1. Boris Petrov-Vodkin
      Boris Petrov-Vodkin
      -2
      1 September 2020 03: 43
      The Kremlin should be angrier and more aggressive

      To every barking of street dogs, do you suggest getting down on all fours in response and barking even louder?
      1. beeper
        beeper
        +1
        1 September 2020 08: 30
        To every barking of street dogs, do you suggest getting down on all fours in response and barking even louder?

        Not, probably, I propose to silently lie under them and not resist, while the street dogs will tirelessly poke at you and brazenly bite and bite, without receiving a "response" in the face (really, in order to completely "discourage" shit, so need to "get on all fours" in front of the mongrel ??! what ) ??! smile
        And really Bundeskanzlerin Merkel or WB May's premiere belong to the category of "street dogs" ?! winked
        But yes, the leaders are connected to the general barking, after the unpunished "test run" of the mongrels lowered onto the "terpila"!
        So, I propose not to behave like "terpily" and immediately give back, and act proactively, continuously and aggressively imposing your own pace and interpretation of events in the "world infospace"!
        1. Sergey Tokarev
          Sergey Tokarev
          0
          1 September 2020 12: 11
          And who did you hit back? Poles, Turks or Russia?))) We went under the new owner. We'll figure it out without the advice of someone who slept through the country.
    2. Sergey Tokarev
      Sergey Tokarev
      -1
      1 September 2020 07: 25
      What about the Kremlin?))) Vote for the next clown in your dill. We'll figure it out without the advice of someone who slept through the country.
    3. shinobi
      shinobi
      +2
      1 September 2020 08: 52
      Navalny was handed over to the Germans for a completely obvious reason, and they just worked ahead of the curve. SP-2. Now the Germans have a formal excuse, and Merkel has already taken advantage of it in order to secure in advance the freedom of maneuver on the next next sanctions on the SP-2, not allowing Navalny to be used as an excuse. The opposition can talk whatever they want, Merkel has clearly stated her position. Navalny's case is separate from SP-2. The curtain.
  2. Oyo Sarkazmi
    Oyo Sarkazmi
    +3
    31 August 2020 18: 59
    It is the Western intelligence services that have fallen into a trap. Travanuli, and Navalny was taken out. But the Germans cannot find anything.
    Those who know what they poisoned with keep quiet. Otherwise, to the question "Where do you get the antidote from?" will cause unpleasant associations.
  3. BoBot Robot - Free Thinking Machine
    BoBot Robot - Free Thinking Machine
    +3
    31 August 2020 19: 00
    To hell with them, let them accuse them, let them kiss the Naffalny agent - SPIT!
  4. boriz
    boriz
    +2
    31 August 2020 19: 06
    To give quickly is the only correct decision. If they decided to poison him, they would poison him to the bitter end and hang him on Putin (who else).

    According to the analyst, there was no point in accusing Putin of trying to poison Navalny - after all, it was in Russia that his life was saved.

    Maybe Craig understands this, and the Finintern media would definitely include a tuned organ with a famous melody once and for all.
  5. Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev
    0
    31 August 2020 19: 49
    And now they will discuss it every day. Putin's cunning plan to keep the media working.

    Ha, this "expert" still thinks "the Russians are coming" - like, not a step anywhere without the watchful eye of the KGB, even planes fly only at the request of the KGB ........
  6. 123
    123
    +3
    31 August 2020 20: 19
    It is better for the Kremlin to ignore any accusations against it and stop answering them, so as not to contribute to fanning lies.

    That's for sure. As a last resort, they will send a new agent and hold a mourning ceremony.

  7. Cheburashk
    Cheburashk
    +1
    31 August 2020 20: 44
    Quote: pishchak
    Never American, but came to the same conclusions as Paul Craig Roberts!
    The Kremlin is badly holding the Goebbels' "blow", do not act ahead of the curve, and react too slowly to "introductory"!
    And therefore, they cannot counter-propagandistically beat even an initially advantageous situation (who interfered with the Kremlin immediately, as soon as the "radio from the plane" arrived, promptly - ahead of the rest of the planet, before any "unwilling" Western magazines, officially and authoritatively "declare" publicly, "to disperse the wave" in all Russian media, an emergency release-interrupting TV programs for the message, on the first page and in large text, a "working version" about "provocation of the Western special services with the poisoning of Russian citizen Alexei Nakhalny", and then look for the truth ??! After all-alager com alager !!!) and often find themselves in the position of justifying "endured", alas! request
    It's a shame for the Russian State, however!
    The Kremlin should be angrier and more aggressive, otherwise the chickens (like Pudila's chicken from the Polish "Nehta") will rake in such a passive attitude of reaction and "expressing concerns"!
    IMHO

    I do not quite agree with you. Now, if Navalny (second surname Hemorrhoids), God forbid, grunted in Russia? Imagine how many howls there would be and screams like: poisoned, not given help, hiding something, and so on. And so - yes, there will be enough difficulties (negotiations on the joint venture-2), but as they say: we will break through! wink
    1. beeper
      beeper
      +2
      1 September 2020 00: 11
      hi I put you, aka Cheburashk-Vladimir, my Plus for your thoughts on the topic! Although it is appropriate to ask - HOW to "break through" this time think ??! what
      Having, since Soviet times, considerable experience of ideological work, propaganda and counter-propaganda, I must note that even if Lyoshka Nakhalny, in fact, had been dying (which, of course, I do not wish for any kind person, let those who live themselves and helps others to live! and let the "goodness" Lyoshka live still - as they usually say, "let him suffer some more," does not die unrepentant ...) would be right on board the airliner after an emergency official statement about his alleged poisoning by Western special services, then the ball would be on the Russian side! Yes
      One could inform the public that the victim (from the vile intrigues of Russia's international enemies!) "Fighter for all good against all bad" is urgently provided with the entire spectrum of medical care. And only then it is sad to inform the "world community" that despite ALL the measures taken, alas, it was not possible to save, but for "services to the Motherland" was posthumously awarded the order ... a commission was created and a criminal investigation of this crime by Western agents is underway, all the results will be reported later ....
      Such information should be presented purposefully and in a reasonable dosage (without an "overdose", leaving "backlash" for their own conjectures of its consumers in a contextualized direction, even if they arrogantly believe that "they thought of it on their own!"
      So that:

      Whoever got up first (reported the sensational news), and the sneakers (grab the audience's attention and the priority news segment of the information field)!

      Difficult situations with provocations of Western intelligence services, such as the poisoning of the Russian Cheeky at the airport or the English Violinists in the British backwater, the shooting of Borukh Neumann (Nemtsov) in the center of Moscow or the Boeing shot down by the ameromarionettes, do not need to be afraid, but it is necessary to promptly beat and immediately submit to in a favorable way for yourself!
      What's the use of being years late "fundamental" documentary evidence that the anti-aircraft missile, which allegedly shot down the Malaysian airliner, was in service with the Banderonazi punitive forces - after all, the purpose of the "Dutch investigation" was clear from the very beginning, and when, in the very first minutes and hours, the Russian Federation was indiscriminately accused it was necessary to advance on a wide front in the information war, inventively "load to the fullest" the stunted brains of the "world community" and "put pressure on the emotions" of all these common people - "common people"!
      And not to remain silent (and, moreover, to try to make excuses is obviously a losing position!) And "appeal to logic and the voice of reason"!
      There is no strength to look at these sour and sadly serious, eternally justifying and obviously not exciting to the audience, note-taking "press secretaries", ingrained-stereotyped, boringly predictable, TV presenters of "political shows" and officials of the Russian Foreign Ministry who are losing the battle for the minds of people one after other!
      Yes, it does not even work to break-preempt, everyone has long known in stages and in repeating details, working scenario-algorithm of "Maidan revolutions" .... and not because it is so invulnerable, but because no one is working in advance, they live by the principle:

      Until the thunder strikes, the man will not cross himself!

      Why and how long ?????! winked
      1. A.Lex
        A.Lex
        +2
        1 September 2020 09: 13
        sir, you propose one very bad way out - to become like these Goebbels' successors and stand in line with the liars. And in no case should we do this. But what I agree with you is that giving this sheep to the Germans, it was necessary to warn - we gave you ALIVE, not only that he was alive, and the preliminary diagnosis was as clear as a white light! And he is like this:
        1. A significant time ago, a 44-year-old citizen began to lose weight and got hooked on some kind of "superfood" diet and was FASTING for a long time.
        2. He was drinking alcohol in the Tomsk region shortly before departure. Hence, most likely, and a sharp exacerbation in the body ...
        Well, in addition to the topic - he was under a subscription (!!!), where the special services and supervision looked ... for our authorities this "useful" is more beneficial than harmful - such a stupid opp (or rather a clown) is not dangerous ... we fully calculate ... If there was a smart and experienced politician in his place, it would be much more dangerous ...
        Something like that. hi
        1. beeper
          beeper
          +2
          1 September 2020 09: 43
          hi Plus A.Lex, out of respect, including your thoughts on the topic! Yes
          By no means do I propose to become like and become "in line with the liars"! smile
          I vow only for preempting such Goebbels' strikes as much as possible and to go at least half a step ahead in propaganda and counter-propaganda, to be info-chess players (at least at least info-judoists) in the "brainwashing" of Westernoid inhabitants and the operational development and presentation of their own interpretation of events, urgent disavowal of provocative anti-Russian "news stories" and "blowing up", taking advantage of any negative events in the enemy camp!
          This is an information war, dear A. Lex, and in war, as in war - all means are good if they provide an advantage in battle and achieve victory! Straightforward and honest, as well as - lack of initiative, ingenuous "non-resistance" and refined "neat" perish first, alas!
          1. A.Lex
            A.Lex
            +1
            1 September 2020 21: 09
            "+" the same ... But you still did not understand me ... Your

            in war, as in war - all means are good if they provide an advantage in battle and achieve victory

            - leads to what I wrote about - in assimilation to liars.
            We have what you say

            in propaganda and counter-propaganda

            - I've been watching V.R.Solovyov for a very long time ... There, of course, there is a fig of everything that sometimes does not suit me. BUT (!) The bulk of the statements of Bagdasarov, Mikheev, Kornilov, Kedmi, Sosnovsky, Kilinkarov, Klintsevich, Korotchenko, Evstafiev .... sometimes - Kurginyan with Shakhnazarov, well, Yevgeny Satanovsky - Mmmmm !!!!!!! Watching "Solovyov-Live ..." Smersh "..." Armageddonych "...
            In general, we have everything we need ...
  8. Cheburashk
    Cheburashk
    +1
    31 August 2020 20: 46
    Quote: 123
    It is better for the Kremlin to ignore any accusations against it and stop answering them, so as not to contribute to fanning lies.

    That's for sure. As a last resort, they will send a new agent and hold a mourning ceremony.


    I watched the full video and there still one coffin was dropped to the ground. And so - yes, I agree with you completely!
  9. Georgievic
    Georgievic
    +1
    31 August 2020 21: 20
    Quote: pishchak
    The Kremlin is bad at keeping Goebbels' "blow", do not act ahead of the curve

    You're right! It looks like there is no creative team for such emergencies!
    1. Oyo Sarkazmi
      Oyo Sarkazmi
      +1
      31 August 2020 22: 37
      Quote: Georgievic
      It looks like there is no creative team for such emergencies!

      Well, who was preparing an emergency response to a specific kid Floyd? None. If there were no elections, they would not even notice. And Navalny who was stealing would not have been noticed, there would have been no need to "wet" the SP-2.
      And the propaganda is not Goebbels'. The most that is soviet-communist. "They are hanging bulk!"
  10. Elena Vetrova
    Elena Vetrova
    +2
    1 September 2020 00: 57
    The cargo has been sent to its destination ... let them "poke around" with it. In any case, whether we sent it or not ... the result would be the same - the stench in the Western media. But to ignore fools or not, we will decide ourselves without advisers. I don’t know what kind of “analyst” it is, if even a weak-minded person should understand that the Kremlin considers it beneath its dignity to engage in such a weak “pawn” as Navalny, not every “pawn” is given to become a “queen”. Despite all the attempts of the West, Navalny did not even manage to become a "fighting chess knight" on the political field. Here it is already clear without the "super-duper analyst" that this subject became another "sacrificial sheep" of the West in order to receive at least some compensation for the funds they invested in it, but the show did not work out and the "poor sheep" was saved in RUSSIA with tender care, handing over to Western "craftsmen" at their complete disposal. Now let them do what they want. But we'll see what the result will be ... but most likely he will face the fate of the Skripals, who mystically disappeared from earthly space in all senses ...)))
  11. Cheburashk
    Cheburashk
    +1
    1 September 2020 01: 26
    Quote: pishchak
    hi I put you, aka Cheburashk-Vladimir, my Plus for your thoughts on the topic! Although it is appropriate to ask - HOW to "break through" this time think ??! what
    Having, since Soviet times, considerable experience in ideological work, propaganda and counter-propaganda, I must note that even if Lyoshka Nakhalny, in fact, had been dying (which, of course, I do not wish for any kind person, let those who live themselves and helps others to live! and let the "goodness" Lyoshka live a little longer, as they usually say, "let him suffer some more," does not die unrepentant ...) would be right on board the airliner after an emergency official statement about his alleged poisoning by Western special services, then the ball would be on the Russian side! Yes
    One could inform the public that the victim (from the vile intrigues of Russia's international enemies!) "Fighter for all good against all bad" is urgently provided with the entire spectrum of medical care. And only then it is sad to inform the "world community" that despite ALL the measures taken, alas, it was not possible to save, but for "services to the Motherland" was posthumously awarded the order ... a commission was created and a criminal investigation of this crime by Western agents is underway, all the results will be reported later ....
    Such information should be presented purposefully and in a reasonable dosage (without an "overdose", leaving "backlash" for their own conjectures of its consumers in a contextualized direction, even if they arrogantly believe that "they thought of it on their own!"
    So that:

    Whoever got up first (reported the sensational news), and the sneakers (grab the audience's attention and the priority news segment of the information field)!

    Difficult situations with provocations of Western intelligence services, such as the poisoning of the Russian Cheeky at the airport or the English Violinists in the British backwoods, the shooting of Borukh Neumann (Nemtsov) in the center of Moscow or the Boeing shot down by the ameromarionettes, do not need to be afraid, but it is necessary to quickly beat and immediately serve in a way favorable to yourself!
    What's the use of being years late "fundamental" documentary evidence that the anti-aircraft missile, which allegedly shot down the Malaysian airliner, was in service with the Banderonazi punitive forces - after all, the purpose of the "Dutch investigation" was clear from the very beginning, and when, in the very first minutes and hours, the Russian Federation was indiscriminately accused it was necessary to advance on a wide front in the information war, inventively "load to the fullest" the stunted brains of the "world community" and "put pressure on the emotions" of all these common people - "common people"!
    And not to keep silent (and, moreover, to try to make excuses - this is obviously a losing position!) And "appeal to logic and the voice of reason"!
    There is no strength to look at these sour and sadly serious, eternally justifying and obviously not exciting to the audience, note-taking "press secretaries", ingrained-stereotyped, boringly predictable, TV presenters of "political shows" and officials of the Russian Foreign Ministry who are losing the battle for the minds of people one after other!
    Yes, it does not even work to break-preempt, everyone has long known in stages and in repeating details, working scenario-algorithm of "Maidan revolutions" .... and not because it is so invulnerable, but because no one is working in advance, they live by the principle:

    Until the thunder breaks out, the man does not cross himself!

    Why and how long ?????! winked

    I will say this: it is necessary (I will call such figures the enemies of Russia) to fight on their own sites, so to speak. Well, invite them to some popular, not popular talk show and talk to them with facts (it's useless to explain to them), let the people who support them listen to what these liberals will carry and how to argue. We must fight for the minds, and the stronger and more assertive, the better it will be for Russia. I am not an expert and there is no practice as such, I write and think like a simple person.
    And to your question: why and for how long, I can answer this way: before the authorities spoke in such a language that the people did not understand, and only recently the power in the person of Putin and not only begins a conversation in a language understandable to the people so that the people understand that, how and where Russia is going.
    To the question: until then I have no definite answer. Rather, there is, but I don’t like it myself, you don’t even want this in any country.
    1. Oyo Sarkazmi
      Oyo Sarkazmi
      +2
      1 September 2020 15: 39
      Quote: Cheburashk
      fight on their own sites

      You would try to preach the criminal code "on raspberries"! laughing
      Their sites are completely closed, the owner will not allow to write the truth - no one will write or even reprint. Sputnik and RT are blocked in Western countries - the local pipol should not know a bit of a different opinion.
      Another thing is not to let them into Russia, not to extend their competence to our territory and our citizens. And then, for every filipka in the New York Times, they arrange a briefing by the attorney general. There would be no American demand for the investigation of Navalny to demand documents on the investigation of Abu Ghraib.
  12. g1washntwn
    g1washntwn
    +2
    1 September 2020 06: 14
    This is a trap for the West. Quite the opposite is true. Now, if something is supposedly found in the Charite, we have a control sample, and then the question is - where did all this come from in it? If they do not "find" - twice stupid "balabolki", we will ride it on the available foreign media and the Internet, dipping headlong into their own accusations.
    1. Sergey Tokarev
      Sergey Tokarev
      +1
      1 September 2020 07: 28
      "Charite" seeks poison, but does not cure Navalny.
      1. g1washntwn
        g1washntwn
        +2
        1 September 2020 08: 40
        Quote: Sergey Tokarev
        "Charite" seeks poison, but does not cure Navalny.

        And this option is in the same piggy bank. If they didn’t pump it out, then they removed the unnecessary agent.
  13. shinobi
    shinobi
    +3
    1 September 2020 09: 04
    There is a template in Navalny's poisoning. The fact that a "sacred sacrifice" would be made of him became clear even during the "swamp riots", as soon as the inability of this figure to any specific actions in general became clear. Everyone says - blown away. In fact, he did not puff up. An ordinary demagogue and a swindler, hiding behind chatter the usual extortion of money from those in power. And cowardly, too. Just a little hiding behind the hillock. Will wait out some movement in Europe, but hera. In this regard, Sobchak, not to be remembered for the night, evokes great sympathy. And they poisoned him, if there was any poisoning at all. Eat anything you need less.
  14. Denis Arkhipov
    Denis Arkhipov
    -1
    1 September 2020 09: 23
    This Paul is clearly paid for. It's too soft.
  15. fedor.treskov
    fedor.treskov
    0
    1 September 2020 16: 04
    I don't understand the commentators who associate themselves with SP-2. This is a Gazprom project, and Gazprom is a company that is being developed by oligarchs close to the Kremlin. What difference does it make to a citizen of Russia what will happen to this pipe. No more and no less than a hurricane will harm Exxon Mobil.
  16. Cucumbers
    Cucumbers
    +1
    1 September 2020 17: 24
    So, Sergienko says that Navalny is not in the clinic. He was there. And the guard was removed. Apparently, Alexey went to visit the Skripals .......
  17. Alexey Klimov
    Alexey Klimov
    +1
    1 September 2020 19: 02
    Navalny in the West is less dangerous for specialists than here. It is the West that should blow off the specks of dust from it, fearing a slip and a low assessment of the activities of the special services. As a politician, his value is at the level of a grumbling MBH, and over time his popularity will decline. He was ordered to enter Russia - conditions and violation of his recognizance not to leave. If Roberts scolds the Kremlin, then everything was done correctly.
  18. Valery Kuzmin
    Valery Kuzmin
    +1
    2 September 2020 04: 34
    All this poisoning is the work of the CIA. All subsequent actions are a pre-calculated abomination of the United States. By the way, Navalny was released at the request (!!!) of his wife.
  19. cooper
    cooper
    0
    2 February 2021 01: 41
    So, the Russian guarantor began to negotiate some agreements with the unacceptable and treacherous USA. After all, it is clear that all such movements of Russia (in the person of its top leadership) are perceived there as a manifestation of weakness. With all the consequences, how grit ...