Belarusian Maidan on the doorstep: why Lukashenka's days are already numbered


Looking at everything that is now happening on the streets of Minsk and other cities of Belarus, you involuntarily catch yourself thinking that I have already seen something similar somewhere. And exactly, 6 years ago in Ukraine. At that time, people who took to the streets of Kiev and other cities of Western Ukraine with what they thought were just demands, naively believed that they were following their own unique path to their best destiny. But the road to hell is paved with good intentions.


Overthrowing the hated (then not yet stained with blood) tyrant, these "people with bright faces", due to their limitations, did not take into account (and some did not even know) that more than a dozen countries had already passed this path before them. And the experience of these countries has convincingly proved that they did not achieve anything good as a result, having rolled back in their development in the pre-industrial era. But we are all smart in hindsight. Now the Belarusians have to learn this truth as well.

The events in Minsk once again confirm the fact that no one goes to the Maidan because of a bad life. In Ukraine, for example, it is now several times worse than under the “criminal Panda” regime, but no one goes anywhere. And why? The answer is simple - not before! Everyone is saved as best he can, alone fighting for his own survival. Everywhere, where I watched such actions, from the North. Africa to Hong Kong and Ukraine, "people with bright faces" came out to protest exclusively from a good life, wanting even better. What they got as a result - we all know very well. Some are still simply “glowing with happiness” - Tunisia, Egypt, Yemen, Bahrain, Algeria, Morocco, Oman, Jordan, Georgia, Kyrgyzstan, Armenia. Others are at war with their fellow citizens on the ruins of their own countries - Syria, Libya, Iraq, Ukraine. Only in Hong Kong was communist China able to stabilize this process with an iron fist, and then for a short time.

Everywhere I saw such a "movement" (both in North Africa, and in Hong Kong, not to mention Ukraine), the shaggy hand of American curators was clearly visible. It got to the point that on the Maidan resistance fighters were handed out manuals with Arabic script and minarets instead of churches. They were in such a hurry that they did not even have time to redo it. And you shouldn't be surprised - the organizers planned the Maidan in Ukraine for 2015 (the year of Yanukovych's re-election), but everything went according to an accelerated scenario.

In Belarus, a completely different picture is observed. One gets the impression that the resistance scenario is being written off the wheels, although the elections were planned in advance. There is not a single center, not even single leaders of the Maidan, the protesters gather spontaneously and disorganized. It got to the point that the main rival of Lukashenka, around whom the people was supposed to rally, fled to Lithuania and from there sends video messages to her followers asking them to abide by the law and not start riots. Agree that Maidans are not done this way.


A holy place, however, is never empty, and scattered masses of protesters are trying to unite some telegram channels that, online, day and night, post videos of riot police beating innocent civilians who just went out for a walk through the streets of Minsk. And, in spite of the blocking of the Internet, through some of their narrowly dedicated channels, they promptly inform the population about the locations of the next actions and methods of countering the police. But all this looks more like the hand of a British-Polish master than an American one.

Minsk between a rock and a hard place. Where will multi-vector Lukashenko swing?


Not everyone drew attention to the visit of US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo to Minsk on February 1 this year, where he met with Lukashenko and Belarusian Foreign Minister Makei (I especially emphasize the presence at this meeting of the head of the Belarusian Foreign Ministry, who professes the most Western-centrist position in the entire environment Lukashenko). Then, apparently, some guarantees were given to the daddy that the States would recognize his legitimacy if he took some steps away from Russia. And dad took them (and Langley helped him with this). It is this circumstance that explains the certain confusion that was present in the assessment of the actions of the Belarusian regime to disperse peaceful protest demonstrations, which was observed both on the part of the United States and on the part of its Western partners. The partners looked at Washington, and there they waited for how it would all end.

Trump is rational. He "cared about" the features of regimes in countries that not every American can find on the map. Lukashenko is a partner for him, with whom he made a good deal. Pompeo flew to Belarus in winter, among other things, also in order to sell surplus oil from American storages to Belarusians through ports in Poland and the Baltic States, at a time when dad was just looking for an alternative supplier for his refineries instead of Russia. It is known about at least two American tankers, which over the past summer brought oil for Minsk, close in quality to the Russian Urals, for which the Belarusian factories were "sharpened". Donald would be happy to drive a wedge in relations between the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus (confirmation of this is Pompeo's visit to Minsk and the provocation of the SBU supervised by the States with PMC Wagner), but now, being in the status of a "lame duck", he thinks more about keeping his own chair than about anything else. This was used by the globalists, who hate Lukashenka so much that they could not resist trying to overthrow him at the first opportunity, using all the levers of their pressure for this, and do not care what Trump wants there. Trump is now himself a colossus on feet of clay, and is unable to resist globalists, not only in Belarus, but even at home.

At that moment, all those who were already tired of his unbridled activity on the outer perimeter climbed out. I mean both Germany and other EU countries that have been inscribed in the globalist food chain for the past 30 years and who prefer any democrat-globalist in the Oval Office rather than the insane isolationist Trump, who has already gotten everyone out. Therefore, seizing the moment, they happily staged a holiday of disobedience, expressing their "phi" regarding the elections in Belarus, refusing Lukashenka to recognize his legitimacy. Than, willing or unwilling, pushed him into the arms of Comrade. Xi and Comrade Putin, who were the first to congratulate the father on his election for another term. Now the multi-vector Lukashenka will be forced to hesitate, if he does, only between the PRC and the Russian Federation. What we need! But I have big doubts that he will sit still. And only he himself is to blame for this.

Bloody dictator. Belarusian Pinochet


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What, besides hatred for the bloody dictator, can arise after him? Lukashenka, by his actions, breeds his opponents. If already now on the streets of Minsk, according to the minimum estimates, there were up to 20 thousand people. (only those detained in 2 days more than 6 thousand), you can imagine how many there will be in the future. Even if I, realizing all the destructiveness and harm of such actions, having behind me all the consequences of the Ukrainian Maidan and the devastating damage that it brought, internally shudder and oppose such Good with such fists. By the way, for comparison, on the Kiev Maidan there were on average no more than 15 thousand protesters, and 20 thousand protesters for the smaller Minsk, and who took to the streets spontaneously, is a colossal figure.

At the same time, having the experience of the Ukrainian Maidan, I immediately see inconsistencies. First of all, what is striking is the spontaneity of the protest. There are no leaders in contrasting red jackets guiding the process, nor their combat infantry in identical gray, faceless robes with balaclavas on their faces. On the Maidan, hundreds of protesters were immediately created, led by commanders-centurions, who stood out from the rest with a bright band on their sleeves. Here I see the confused and idle youth, for whom this is most likely a holiday of disobedience, rather than a conscious protest. Most of them were born already under Lukashenka and they did not find anything better or worse. The old man is just tired of them. With their "brain", which does not exist, they do not understand that by their actions they are plunging the country into chaos - for them it is just a fun "move". They took to the streets rather to hang out, to film it all in order to tell their friends later that they had overthrown the "dictator." And, who is now sowing the wind, defending his ass, Lukashenka risks very soon to reap the storm that will sweep away him and his regime. You can be sure that these sprouts will germinate very soon and give such shoots that the old man will not seem a little. There, behind the hillock, sit such "gardeners" who have taken more than one "harvest" from similar seedlings. I am not at all sure that the dad will sit out until the end of his term. And this is already a problem for Russia. We must now look for a replacement for him, if Moscow does not want to see Belarus in the circle of its most sworn enemies, along with Poland, Ukraine and the Baltic limitrophes.

The second difference between the Belarusian Maidan and the Ukrainian one is the absence of a single center and curators, which says that they did not prepare for it in advance. The crowd is clearly disorganized. There are no attempts to seize administrative buildings, not to mention ministries and law enforcement agencies. The most they did was to block the streets and try to erect the only barricade, which was immediately demolished by riot police. As a result, unable to gain a foothold in one place, the Belarusian Maidan began to blink, here and there pockets of resistance arose, which were immediately suppressed by mobile OMON groups in order to emerge in another place. Moving from the center even to the sleeping areas, where the protesters were supported by ordinary inhabitants, clapping their hands, blinking windows and signaling cars with horns. This new tactic of waging a color revolution has even received its name "Partisan Maidan". It is impossible to say that this was planned in advance, but the riot police in heavy ammunition very quickly got tired of running after running away busters, so the caught ones got doubly. The excesses of the performer were present everywhere, although, I think, dad gave the go-ahead for the most severe suppression.

The third and very important difference is the absence of anti-Russian rhetoric, no: "Moskals for knives!", "Moskalyaku for gilyaka!" and "He who does not jump is a maskal!", there are not even EU flags, and nationalist white and red flags are present in limited numbers. There is no division into west and east, the Belarusian protest is homogeneous. He is not "for" something, he is "against". Against the dad, who has bothered everyone for 26 years. But this is only because they do not know that it can be much worse. And the dad, who created an oasis of socialism with a capitalist face in the Republic of Belarus (mainly, of course, at the expense of Russia), can only compete in this with Sweden and the North. Europe, where there are some elements of socially oriented capitalism with a human face. Everything is relative. Young Belarusians simply have nothing to compare with.

The fourth difference is the absence of Antimaydan. Where are these 4 of the five Belarusians who voted for dad? Why don't they defend their choice? It is clear that the majority is always passive. But my question is - is it the majority? I am gnawed by vague doubts about the election results. I'm not sure that the dad got even half of the votes.

And, as a result, the fifth difference is the emergence of the threat of mass strikes. There was no such thing in Ukraine. This is a very serious weapon, due in part to the presence in the Republic of Belarus of a real, not fake, trade union organization. Look at news summaries. The workers of the Belarusian Metallurgical Plant (BMZ, for a moment, one of the largest plants in the country), OJSC Grodno Azot, METZ and MMZ (Minsk Electrotechnical and Minsk Margarine Plants), BelAZ and MAZ (Zhodino and Minsk auto giants are on strike) , Bobruisk "Belshina", MTZ (famous Minsk tractor) and BelZhD (employees of the railway). Imagine if some Uralvagonzavod or Cherepovets Metallurgical Plant went on strike in the Russian Federation. I think it would be a state of emergency on an all-Russian scale. Do you know who works in these factories? These are not young people who drink smoothies and want LGBT people not to be offended in the EU. This is a fundamentally different contingent.

About the absence of radicals, paid aunts, employees of the American and other embassies, local oligarchs and money from them, and even intelligible demands to the dad, except for "Dad, go away!" I will not say anything. No, this is not how Maidans are made! There is a spontaneous protest of the masses against the unfair and dishonest, from their point of view, elections.

Summary


I think Lukashenka's days are numbered. For him, it will all end in a war of attrition. And if in the end, by mobilizing all power resources, he can still retain power, then the conclusion is obvious - from this confrontation with his own people, he will inevitably come out weakened. Its legitimacy will be undermined, relations with some of the elites will be ruined, and bridges with the West, hastily erected in recent years, will be burned again.

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  1. Sergey Latyshev Offline
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 14 August 2020 16: 22
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    Yes, with 80% of the votes, he got screwed.
    No, how to count EDRO and stuff under 60. No one would have had a clear certainty that they were divorced. Doubts would have remained, and then they would have convinced that everything is just fine ...

    IMHO, get out jokingly. Find scapegoats, promise to leave ... sometime later ... give out cookies ...
    1. Michael I Offline
      Michael I (Michael I) 14 August 2020 20: 23
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      He wanted more than Putin. laughing
      1. Cheburashk Offline
        Cheburashk (Vladimir) 14 August 2020 20: 36
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        good Damn, right from under the nose the words took away. I agree that there is a psychological factor here - more is needed than Putin's.
        1. Volkonsky Online
          Volkonsky (Vladimir) 14 August 2020 21: 18
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          I remember how in hockey Putin came out at number 11, and dad, along with his son Kolya, came out at number 1. And they were not embarrassed that this does not happen in hockey, the first two numbers on the site, it happens on their site. But Kolya will never become No. 1 now, and his dad is No. 1 in retirement.
          1. Sergey Latyshev Offline
            Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 14 August 2020 22: 49
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            What a nightmare!
            This is the indirect propaganda of the Maidan !!!

            If we can have 99,9% for the President, then 80% is also good.
            And who disagrees - see Ukraine ...

            And about # 1, I didn’t follow, I take my word for it ...
      2. Kristallovich Offline
        Kristallovich (Ruslan) 14 August 2020 22: 59
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        Political analysts were talking about this six months before the elections - Lukashenka needs fundamentally more than Putin's. It's scary to think how much interest we will have in 2024 ...
        1. 123 Offline
          123 (123) 15 August 2020 10: 51
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          Political analysts were talking about this six months before the elections - Lukashenka needs fundamentally more than Putin's. It's scary to think how much interest we will have in 2024 ...

          Why is it terrible? How much they put in, so much will be. If there are facts that in our country, as in Belarus, "40% vote ahead of time" or the commissions "in a peculiar way" think, but the ballots are folded into an accordion, you say, do not hesitate.
          Nobody hides anything, everything is under the cameras. Except for the insane aunt carrying a sheaf of paper in her bra, I don't remember much.
          If there are no such facts, the reason for your phobias becomes interesting.
          1. Kristallovich Offline
            Kristallovich (Ruslan) 15 August 2020 11: 19
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            What are the bulletins? 2018 was the last live election. In 2024, it will be possible to vote via the Internet for all regions of Russia, and there it is not a problem to cheat at all.
            1. 123 Offline
              123 (123) 15 August 2020 11: 23
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              Is there a need to wind up?
              The ability to manipulate numbers on credit cards is clearly no less, but for some reason this does not happen.
              1. Kristallovich Offline
                Kristallovich (Ruslan) 15 August 2020 11: 26
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                I don't understand what credit cards have to do with it ??? All data on votes are sent in electronic form to the CEC, and there, with a couple of mouse clicks, you can draw any number.

                Is there a need to wind up?

                As Belarus has shown, there is. It is not enough for the current kings just to win, you need to do it with a huge margin, supposedly the overwhelming majority of the population supports you, and not otherwise. This is not the United States, where Trump defeated Clinton by 1 vote.
                1. 123 Offline
                  123 (123) 15 August 2020 11: 40
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                  What does ostensibly mean? If you are in the minority, this does not mean at all that the results are winding up. It's just that your views and beliefs are far from the bulk of people. If there is evidence that this is indeed the case, be grateful to share with the public. Otherwise it is a slander and slander.
                  Trump is generally a usurper. Under the American dictatorship, people's opinion is ignored. The electors wanted to spit on the opinion of ordinary voters.
                  And with what margin is not so important. Look at Merkel, the gap is smaller, what difference does that make? If Trump has practically no advantage, the result is obvious.
                  1. Kristallovich Offline
                    Kristallovich (Ruslan) 15 August 2020 12: 02
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                    If there is evidence that this is indeed the case, be grateful to share with the public. Otherwise it is a slander and slander.

                    Events in Belarus speak for themselves. If street protests can still be somehow ignored, then the general riots at enterprises - Lukashenka's pride - cannot be justified in any way.
                    1. 123 Offline
                      123 (123) 15 August 2020 12: 17
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                      Events in Belarus speak for themselves. If street protests can still be somehow ignored, then the general riots at enterprises - Lukashenka's pride - cannot be justified in any way.

                      Did you try to justify him? belay Lukashenko honestly said that he was deceiving everyone, there would be no union. The economy is still going downhill; it is not viable without Russian subsidies. He has nothing to offer the people, except for picking strawberries in Poland and the heir, Prince Kolya.
                      For some reason, you are projecting the situation in Belarus onto us. recourse If Lukashenka's "FSE" is his problem, I see no reason to pretend that we have the same thing.
                      By the way, protests and strikes do not mean at all that there is a "tsar" in the country, do you want me to find examples in France or Germany? Tell us about Queen Merkel and Emperor Macron. winked
                      1. Kristallovich Offline
                        Kristallovich (Ruslan) 15 August 2020 12: 37
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                        For some reason, you are projecting the situation in Belarus onto us.

                        I'm projecting. I have no doubt that if Putin participates in the presidential elections in 2024, his rating will be artificially increased, because 50-55% of the real votes of the population will not suit the ruling elite.
                      2. 123 Offline
                        123 (123) 15 August 2020 12: 45
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                        I'm projecting. I have no doubt that if Putin participates in the presidential elections in 2024, his rating will be artificially increased, because 50-55% of the real votes of the population will not suit the ruling elite.

                        And where did the figure of 50-55% come from? Are you fantasizing? Further, based on the data sucked out of your finger, make the assumption that such a result will not suit you. Why is not clear. request 55% is quite a convincing victory, everything is straight as you like, almost like Trump's. And for some reason you start to suspect of cheating votes. smile
                      3. Kristallovich Offline
                        Kristallovich (Ruslan) 15 August 2020 14: 08
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                        And where did the figure of 50-55% come from? Are you fantasizing?

                        This is the alignment of opinions in my rather wide social circle, which includes people of completely different ages, professions and material wealth.

                        55% quite convincing win

                        Yes, this is a victory. But the current government will not be satisfied with such figures. The Belarusian president was not satisfied either. Imagine the headlines of the foreign press and the politicians there: Half of the population of Russia is against Putin! This is a nightmare for the Kremlin.
                      4. 123 Offline
                        123 (123) 15 August 2020 14: 55
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                        This is the alignment of opinions in my rather wide social circle, which includes people of completely different ages, professions and material wealth.

                        An interesting argument. laughing And what to do if, for example, in my even wider social circle, which includes people of different ages, professions, genders, beliefs, religions and nationalities, somewhat different numbers are used, say 85%. Proceeding from this, the peace-loving "Kremlin" plays up to the dictatorial opposition, which by hook or by crook is striving for power. How are we going to live with such an opinion?

                        Yes, this is a victory. But the current government will not be satisfied with such figures. The Belarusian president was not satisfied either. Imagine the headlines of the foreign press and the politicians there: Half of the population of Russia is against Putin! This is a nightmare for the Kremlin.

                        I suppose they will. How did the same Trump or Merkel arrange, on the contrary, it will knock out the arguments of Western critics, because everything will be exactly like theirs.
                        What about the opposition? If Yavlinsky did not get 5%, does he need to kill himself from shame against the wall?
                        Lukashenko almost certainly attributed to himself quite a lot of votes, just like Trump, because less than 50% of voters voted for him and only manipulation with the electors allowed him to occupy the oval office. Merkel, who was not so long ago called the "she-wolf", grabbed the chair with a stranglehold, she is probably manipulating the votes of voters, but even this does not allow her to achieve better results.
                        Just imagine, half of Germany is against Merkel, and half of America is against Trump, remind about Macron? These are extremely unpopular leaders. For the Kremlin, such a shame is probably unacceptable, Putin is on a par with these ...... Newspaper headlines will surely bring Putin to a heart attack. laughing

                        Seriously, in my opinion, your social circle is quite peculiar, with a rather specific opinion. I would even say - some kind of subculture, moreover, claiming to express the opinion of the people. In the future, this can be a disappointment for you. People begin to believe "in themselves" too much. Then they go out into the street and declare - We are in power here! And then they are perplexed about the reasons, when they face the asphalt. hi
                        The attempts to equate Putin and Lukashenka look rather strange and wretched. I suppose you don't equate Trump with the Saudis dismembering journalists?
                      5. Kristallovich Offline
                        Kristallovich (Ruslan) 15 August 2020 15: 05
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                        And what to do if, for example, in my even wider social circle, which includes people of different ages, professions, genders, beliefs, religions and nationalities, somewhat different numbers are used, say 85%.

                        And this already looks like an outright lie. A kind of hastily invented argument from the same area, but with numbers in the opposite direction.

                        I suppose they will. How did the same Trump or Merkel arrange

                        Have you now compared Western democracies with Russian ones? This is a bad idea.

                        Just imagine, half of Germany is against Merkel

                        Tell me more about Germany, where I have lived for many years and have an excellent command of the situation. It's really interesting to listen to (no).

                        Merkel, who not so long ago was called the "she-wolf", grabbed the chair with a stranglehold, for sure she is manipulating the votes of voters

                        Merkel has repeatedly stated that she does not plan to be re-elected. This man came to power on absolutely legal grounds. I survived three election campaigns with her.

                        Communication with you, as always, comes down to demagogy, populism, deception on your part, inventing some kind of fables that are passed off as truth. I would ask you not to notice my messages from now on. A conversation with you is of no interest to me.
                      6. 123 Offline
                        123 (123) 15 August 2020 15: 37
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                        And this already looks like an outright lie. A kind of hastily invented argument from the same area, but with numbers in the opposite direction.

                        Why is it made up? So I'm lying, and you're an angel? sad Claiming a monopoly of ultimate truth?
                        We are both talking about subjective opinion. Is there any objective data? I can offer the election results. In my opinion, I have a smaller margin of error. winked

                        Have you now compared Western democracies with Russian ones? This is a bad idea.

                        You are absolutely right, you shouldn't have done this, there is no democracy left in the West.

                        Tell me more about Germany, where I have lived for many years and have an excellent command of the situation. It's really interesting to listen to (no).
                        Merkel has repeatedly stated that she does not plan to be re-elected. This man came to power on absolutely legal grounds. I survived three election campaigns with her.

                        You have lived in Germany for so many years and declare that you know Russia? You grew up with Mama Merkel. laughing Maybe the "social circle" to which you refer is also there? Or is it simply closely related to the former country of residence? Is Mikhail Sergeevich not part of it by chance?
                        Merkel will not go to the polls simply for health reasons. By the way, in terms of her tenure in power, she is not far from Putin. The legitimacy of the grounds for staying with Putin is no less than that of Merkel, no matter how they think, you have in Germany.

                        Communication with you, as always, comes down to demagogy, populism, deception on your part, inventing some kind of fables that are passed off as truth. I would ask you not to notice my messages from now on. A conversation with you is of no interest to me.

                        Ага. yes And you, of course, have exclusively objective data and impartial analysis. laughing
                        I would ask you not to pass off your personal opinion as reality. hi
                    2. Rashid116 Offline
                      Rashid116 (Rashid) 21 August 2020 10: 24
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                      Can I also measure myself with your surroundings?))) A useless argument, we will probably never know the truth. This dregs have been annoying lately. Here's how to make plans? All the same, I'm trying to measure myself: unfortunately, I live in Kristallovich's Russia, only pensioners vote for Putin around, like, although there is no pension, they give it on time. But "123" lives in another Russia, where all as one give the most precious thing that a democrat and zaputintsy have, that is, a voice - to the Solntselik leader of the Siberian Cranes. In our Russia, the income of the population has been falling for the devil knows how many years in a row, and in their Russia the number of dollars of millionaires is growing and there is more money in their accounts (not kidding, statistics for recent years). I also wanted to throw in the differences, there was no time left, I had to drive to work. And I have a lot of them)
                    3. 123 Offline
                      123 (123) 21 August 2020 11: 14
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                      Can I also measure myself against your surroundings?))) A useless argument, we will probably never know the truth

                      The truth is everyone has their own, and the truth, as Agent Scully said, is somewhere nearby. laughing
                      The dispute is really useless, to tell what it is - reality, relying on the opinion of your own and those of the environment (colleagues' friends) is wrong. We need objective data.

                      This dregs have been annoying lately. Here's how to make plans?

                      It is not entirely clear how this relates to your plans. request Are they so heavily dependent on politics?

                      All the same, I'm trying to measure myself: unfortunately, I live in Kristallovich's Russia, only pensioners vote for Putin around, like, although there is no pension, they give it on time.

                      I strongly doubt that Kristallovich, speaking of his entourage, meant that only pensioners vote for Putin. If such a conversation has already started, who is your ideal candidate? Who will come and put things in order, put all the thieves in jail and increase income? And most importantly - how?

                      But "123" lives in another Russia, where everyone as one gives the most precious thing that a democrat and zaputintsy has, that is, a voice - to the Solntselik leader of Siberian Cranes

                      You probably won't believe it, maybe you will even laugh, but it just so happened ... I have never voted for Putin. yes It just so happened, it always happened for various reasons and due to circumstances, but fact is fact - not once. Let's see how it will be in 2024, if anything, I'm ready to break this tradition. Probably, the pension is approaching. laughing Moreover, I am far from politics, I think I have already told you, due to certain circumstances I now have a lot of free time, so I am gradually delving into it out of boredom.

                      In our Russia, the incomes of the population have been falling for the devil knows how many years in a row, and in their Russia the number of millionaires' dollars is growing and there is more money in their accounts (not kidding, statistics for recent years).

                      I am aware that everything is not ice with income. Remind the reasons for the recession that began in 2014?

                      The income stratification is also huge, and the trend is more likely a worldwide one. I don't really like that either. How to change, you know? Is there a suitable recipe? Or put everyone in prison and life will improve?

                      It will be boring, look through the statistics. hi

                      https://ac.gov.ru/uploads/2-Publications/rus_feb_2020.pdf

                      I also wanted to throw in the differences, there was no time left, I had to drive to work. And I have a lot of them)

                      There will be time, throw in yes interesting to see.
                    4. Rashid116 Offline
                      Rashid116 (Rashid) 21 August 2020 17: 55
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                      It is not entirely clear how this relates to your plans. Are they so heavily dependent on politics?

                      I already wrote that I am pumping Kamaz trucks. After my work, the car can carry twice as much cargo. You know that we have no growth, stagnation, her mother. Well, who needs these "Kamaz" vehicles, if the owners cannot download the serial ones. Previously, parts were taken from the machine, they did not even have time to paint.

                      Who is your ideal candidate? Who will come and put things in order, put all the thieves in jail and increase income? And most importantly - how?

                      I am (joking). At least a person is trying to figure it out and do something. You advise everyone to sit on the priest evenly and not to shine. A great plan, it should work)))). And I already suggested, you didn't like it, but this is the only way. No other has yet been invented. You even wrote something, like, hungry will come to their place. Well, this is enough for our today's authorities (no longer hungry), because they have already stolen. Tomorrow their consciences will wake up and they will go to jail in orderly rows.

                      You probably won't believe it, maybe you will even laugh, but it just so happened ... I have never voted for Putin.

                      - you may not believe me either, but even the most ardent zaputintsy claim the same)))). Well, you never know what in the future)

                      Remind the reasons for the recession that began in 2014?

                      - I remember. You'd better remind us how our authorities responded harshly. But they said it was almost a declaration of war. Well, after all, it's no secret to anyone that if you start chewing snot, humming something indistinct, there will always be someone who also wants to put you on all fours. The weak are beaten - that's the truth of life. And this one seemed to be called our leader.
                      They write, like, Volodya was a bully))) You saw him sharpened in his youth, he would have passed us by without an under..opnik would not have passed. So only in sports, if you have ambitions. And the three of us, four of us in the 90s went into any Moscow courtyard, built 10-15 people there and unharnessed them (who are older, must remember: bald, sometimes in skullcaps, but always in wide pants)). Well, Volodya grew up, but as he was patient, he remained, and he is trying to zachushpan us as a country. I am the only one, or something, I see how everyone ignores him, orders are not carried out, everyone has hammered on him a long time ago.
                      And I already wrote what I would do now, I can repeat it. Hide resources and prepare physically. Stop plumping and expanding, take a sober look around. I can assure you that you will not like what you see.
                      I am addressing people born in 1970. plus or minus five years. My generation, there were more of us than everyone else (I'm not sure if this is still the case). How many of us are left? We were beaten out purposefully and methodically. "The Lost Generation" - that's what the old farts call us. And they did it for one reason - we would have taken everything from them. We know perfectly well who they are, and we are not fooled by their propaganda. Such people should not be given power. Unite, save resources, do not shine yet.
                    5. 123 Offline
                      123 (123) 21 August 2020 21: 29
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                      I already wrote that I am pumping Kamaz trucks. After my work, the car can carry twice as much cargo. You know that we have no growth, stagnation, her mother. Well, who needs these Kamaz trucks? If the owners are serial, they cannot download it. Previously, parts were taken from the machine, they did not even have time to paint.

                      What's going on ...

                      In 2019, 33,5 thousand KAMAZ trucks and 38 thousand power units were produced.

                      https://kamaz.ru/about/general-information/

                      There were more only until 2014 (38 thousand). Looking at 2020.

                      According to the results of the first half of 2020, KAMAZ produced 16647 trucks and vehicle kits, which is 11,8% higher than in the same period last year. In June, 3193 vehicles left the assembly line of the enterprise (+ 1,5%), the press service of KAMAZ reports.

                      https://www.autostat.ru/news/44731/

                      It turns out that life is gradually getting better ... or are they lying?

                      You'd better remind us how our authorities responded harshly. But they said it was almost a declaration of war. Well, after all, it's no secret to anyone that if you start chewing snot, humming something indistinct, there will always be someone who wants to put you on all fours. The weak are beaten - that's the truth of life. And this one seemed to be called our leader.

                      What kind of reaction do you want? Prohibit the US from using the ruble or borrowing from Sberbank? Suggest a hard answer, interesting to listen to.

                      I am (joking). At least a person is trying to figure it out and do something. You advise everyone to sit on the priest straight and not shine. Awesome plan, should work)))). And I already suggested, you didn't like it, but this is the only way. No other has yet been invented. You even wrote something, like, hungry will come to their place. Well, this is enough for our today's authorities (no longer hungry), because they have already stolen. Tomorrow their consciences will wake up and they will go to jail in orderly rows.

                      I don’t advise anyone, I don’t like to sit - go for it, but how you are going to do it will not lead to anything good. Nobody's conscience will wake up and no one will voluntarily go to jail, but to the old question - have they prepared a replacement? There are many honest and unselfish people ..... Or drop everything yourself and go?

                      They write, like, Volodya was a bully))) You saw him sharpened in his youth, he would not have passed by us without a ..nick. So only in sports, if you have ambitions. And the three of us, four of us in the 90s went into any Moscow courtyard, built 10-15 people there and unharnessed them (who should remember: bald, sometimes in skullcaps, but always in wide trousers)). Well, Volodya grew up, but as he was patient, he remained, and he is trying to zachushpan us as a country.

                      I don't know what they write about him, I was not interested. "Sharpening" and its dimensions may not be as representative as, for example, Yanukovych's, it is not always possible to judge by appearance. You must have entered the courtyards, because you went so greyhound in those very skullcaps and wide trousers, apparently, there they knew that four had entered, and a hundred more might come.

                      And I already wrote what I would do now, I can repeat it. Hide resources and prepare physically. Stop plumping and expanding, take a sober look around. I can assure you that you will not like what you see.

                      Thank you for the advice, and that they took me for a junkie and a drunk. So far, my vision is all right.

                      I am addressing people born in 1970. plus or minus five years. My generation, there were more of us than everyone else (I'm not sure if this is still the case). How many of us are left? We were beaten out purposefully and methodically. "The Lost Generation" is what the old farts call us.

                      We got to the address. yes

                      And they did it for one reason - we would have taken everything from them. We know perfectly well who they are and are not fooled by their propaganda. Such people should not be given power.

                      "They" is a different age category, do I understand correctly?

                      Unite, save resources, do not shine yet.

                      Wait for the signal? Three green whistles? winked
                      Do you want me to remind you of the Buratino saga with a keyhole instead of a navel?
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                      Rashid116 (Rashid) 21 August 2020 23: 37
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                      In 2019, 33,5 thousand KAMAZ trucks and 38 thousand power units were produced.

                      - can you read? I do not collect KAMAZ vehicles, I upgrade them. I didn't care what was at the factory, there was someone to think about it. The re-equipment was ordered by private traders, mostly. Most of them are used cars that have exhausted their resource, we can extend it, raise the carrying capacity. Well, there are not so many people in our country who can purchase a new KAMAZ (I will not announce the prices, you can find it yourself). They take rubbish for a hundred thousand, capitalize the undercarriage and to us to install a s / a. As a result, the master of his life does not depend on anyone, does not ask anyone for anything. That is, an independent combat unit.))) Well, such a putler is not needed, he needs slaves to shake for their pennies and look into the mouths of the authorities. Do you know how much people get at that plant? There is a crazy turnover. These creatures even rummage around private traders, trying to take people away from us. But they have nothing to offer a specialist, and it seems that religion does not allow them to raise their salaries)). So they are trying to ruin us with the help of the tax office (we are specialists in our business), like, we will go to the plant out of despair. But here they did not guess, I will die of hunger, I will not go to the plant. I talked to many colleagues and think the same. In fact, twenty years ago, I made good money by poaching, there was no decent job in the city, but I respect myself and did not start working for handouts. When it returned to normal, we left the Kama, of course. We are not stoned, we perfectly understood that we knock out the fish tightly. I’ll come back, I didn’t sell my "kazanka", I keep in touch with my former colleagues. I already threw it, they say: come back, there will be enough fish for everyone.

                      What kind of reaction do you want?

                      - yes, at least some, but we saw only companionship. And believe me, there are options to make the Americans uncomfortable. But no, they beat us in the most painful place, and our answer ... was there a general answer to the Amers?

                      You probably entered the courtyards, that's why you went so greyhound in those same skullcaps and wide trousers, apparently, there they knew that four had entered, and another hundred might come next "- what a hundred, then there was a mess, but not to such an extent. Everyone was already aware that crowds of youngsters did not go to Moscow to see Red Square. Two or three people leaked in. And what kind of local men are they if they could not unwind a hundred in their city, even if she was?
                      He smiled about the junkie, but if you loaded yourself, who is your doctor?))))
                      You understood correctly, you must be so quick-witted. When it starts, everyone will understand.

                      Do you want me to remind you of the Buratino saga with a keyhole instead of a navel?
                      - instead of a navel, say. Excuse me from your perversions, it's not interesting at all.
  • Bulanov Offline
    Bulanov (Vladimir) 14 August 2020 16: 27
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    If the Belarusians go to the partisans in the woods, then returning to the city "for salt" for potatoes, they may well see there a Polish or Lithuanian Gauleiter guarded by an American Negro sergeant! And then Sudoplatov will not help from Moscow!
    In the meantime, Lukashenka can impose a curfew and arrest violators for 30 days. And there, he will send them to the fields, to harvest potatoes. Who will run away - They will add another term. Everyone abroad will not be pulled.
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    RFR (RFR) 14 August 2020 21: 52
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    That the dull-headed urka Yanyk, that the dull-headed collective farmer Luka have already gotten so bad of the people that they have no choice but to buzz. It's bad that the Russophobic West immediately takes advantage of this, but this is also a great fault of our government, they put on the idiots, if only the loot could be cut ...
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      Dust (Sergei) 14 August 2020 23: 59
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      You ought to live the way people live under Lukashenka! To begin with, I suggest you take an excursion to Ukraine. Breathe the air of free democracy! Chat with locals .... Then to Belarus. I will say in advance - the living standards in Ukraine and in Belarus are not comparable! I'll tell you from myself. I go once a week to Belarus and see all this firsthand.
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      Obama Barack (Obama Barack) 15 August 2020 07: 01
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      Yanukovych got it in 4 years? )
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    boriz (boriz) 14 August 2020 22: 20
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    Is not a fact. Everything will depend on how much he bends in front of Putin. And he will have to bend, moreover, he has already begun. The Wagnerites have already been sent to the Russian Federation.
    And he will bend strongly, at least for Kolya's sake.
    And it will be convenient for Putin to have a faulty "dictator" under his command. If something happens, you can drain, there will be a lot of people who want to break it into rags. Now he is in Putin's eternal slaves.
  • Dust Offline
    Dust (Sergei) 14 August 2020 23: 48
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    I think Lukashenka's days are numbered.

    It is loudly said that Lukashenka is an experienced politician with an animal instinct! This is not Yanukovych. The top leadership of the Ministry of Defense and the Ministry of Internal Affairs are loyal to him! Lukashenka has a wide range of tools to suppress all these unrest, including the closure of borders, the shutdown of the Internet, and the harsh suppression of the liberal-nationalist opposition. He is not afraid of sanctions. He will just switch to China and Russia! The West is most afraid of this! Most likely, they will accept sanctions against certain individuals ... and everything will calm down. In the future, Lukashenka will take into account the failures and fix everything. .... So, you shouldn't bury Lukashenka! He will dance at the grave of his enemies and put his son Kolya on the kingdom!)
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      Accidentally 15 August 2020 10: 44
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      When Lukasescu falls at present ...... days and hours can be counted. And after it the collapse of Lukanomics in Belarus. And this is an example for Russia, and then the departure of the Kremlin ... an example has been set, protests are still going on in Khabarovsk and other cities ... so time is working against the Kremlin. Would be less worried about the OZERO cooperative, oligarchy. We would build factories, factories, roads, etc. We would have changed the vector of Russia's development ............ But - alas ... what we have, we have.
      1. 123 Offline
        123 (123) 15 August 2020 12: 26
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        When Lukasescu falls at present ...... days and hours can be counted. And after it the collapse of Lukanomics in Belarus. And this is an example for Russia, and then the departure of the Kremlin ... an example has been set, protests are still going on in Khabarovsk and other cities ... so time is working against the Kremlin. Would be less worried about the OZERO cooperative, oligarchy. We would build factories, factories, roads, etc. We would have changed the vector of Russia's development ............ But - alas ... what we have, we have.

        The example is for the USA. If you take your head out of the sand, you will see that just "factories, factories, roads, etc." and so they build. Here's the vector of development to change ... I have to disappoint, your wet dreams are unrealizable. In the meantime, I don’t know, alas or not alas, but judging by what was written, they have you.
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          Accidentally 16 August 2020 09: 35
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          The example is for the USA ... my head is not in the sand. Second - go somewhere from the center of the region for 200-350 kilometers and you will see with your own eyes DESTRUCTION, and these are factories built in your opinion. Factories and gouging-stumbling roads, and the people are also dissatisfied with the bullet both in Khabarovsk and in Bashkiria, protests are going on everywhere, how long the occupation regime will live and will last - a problem of time, and the collapse of Putinomics, this is a regularity, the third one is very cruel to me in all social sites , clerks, from where Little Johnny .... BLOCKED.
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            123 (123) 16 August 2020 14: 55
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            The example is for the USA ... my head is not in the sand. Second - go somewhere from the center of the region for 200-350 kilometers and you will see with your own eyes DESTRUCTION, and these are factories built in your opinion. Factories and gouging-stumbling roads, and the people are also dissatisfied with the bullet in Khabarovsk and Bashkiria, protests are going on everywhere

            You know, I traveled regularly. I don’t know about the whole country, our road quality is pretty good. I have something to compare with. He skated a lot in the "directions" left by the Soviet regime. "Blurring" road slabs with protruding reinforcement, potholes, black oil-filled ditches and nearby lakes. The local road of the early 90s is torn tires, a peeled bottom and a punctured crankcase, a lot of obscene language, monuments and crosses on the roadside. Nowadays such a landscape cannot be found. There is no oil slick, continuous soil reclamation.
            I even went where there are no roads. By helicopter, "maize", by water on ships, boats, motor boats. 500 kilometers from the nearest regional center (this is in a straight line). You probably will not believe it even once, even in a remote camp, I have not seen a person with a "PUTINUKHODI" and "MISDESVLAST" posters. There were no factories there, and it is unlikely that they will appear, but did not notice the devastation.

            I have not been to Khabarovsk, but I liked it in Bashkiria, at the haymaking in the Oktyabrsky district there is an amazingly fragrant forbs. We have fewer smells in the North, you know. Believe it or not, I didn't notice the demonstrations. request In Khabarovsk .... made an effort on himself, watched the "Rain" regularly slipped by YouTube. What can I say .. the people expressed everything that they thought they were sore, and dispersed. A bunch of city madmen are running through the streets.

            how long the occupation regime will live and will last - a problem of time

            Do not worry about the regime, think, as if provocateurs and foreign agents on the lanterns did not begin. Or is your shirt no closer to your body?

            and the collapse of Putinomics, this is a pattern

            What kind of economic collapse are we talking about? belay Is it possible from now on in more detail?
            Otherwise you have only slogans ... regime, occupation, economic collapse, but there are no facts. Maybe the head in the sand is not conducive to this? Sand, you know, is free-flowing, has the ability to fill voids, it does not matter to him where to fall asleep, in a bucket or in a skull.

            third, I am very cruel in all social sites, clerks, where Johnny is from .... BLOCKED.

            I believe they did the right thing, apparently, and here they will do the same over time. There is no need for people to stuff their heads with all sorts of nonsense. winked
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              Accidentally 17 August 2020 14: 47
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              Everything is clear with you, paid Kremlin provocateur ...............
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                123 (123) 17 August 2020 14: 51
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                everything is clear with you, paid Kremlin provocateur ...............

                It sounds like a compliment from your lips. Say hello to the State Department curators. hi
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                  Accidentally 17 August 2020 16: 20
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                  I do not have, there have never been any curators from the FSB of the Russian Federation and curators from the United States .... and you are to hell. CIA Mossad, etc. seen from afar ..............
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                    123 (123) 17 August 2020 16: 23
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                    I do not have, there have never been any curators from the FSB of the Russian Federation and curators from the United States .... and you are to hell. CIA Mossad, etc. seen from afar .......

                    You forgot to mention the reptilians. repeat Hello to the orderlies. hi
  • Satellite Offline
    Satellite (Satellite) 15 August 2020 00: 30
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    Here the author writes:

    Watch this video. What, besides hatred for the bloody dictator, can arise after him?

    I watched the video. With all my desire, I cannot agree with the author just that the riots are spontaneous.
    Quite clearly visible is the good organization of the actions of the "demonstrators", which is by no means aimed at de-escalation. They are very aggressive.

    Yes, it differs from the Ukrainian "Maidan", but all the signs of competent crowd control are present.
    Yes, the author noted well: there are no "80% of anti-Maidan", by the way, correctly explaining this by the passivity of the majority. And why should they be active. These are ordinary people who went to the polls, and cast their votes there, and believe that they have fulfilled their civic duty in full. What is there to show them?

    But just the notorious "20% of minorities" were there, apparently in full force, and with a specific goal and setting. And this is spontaneity? And nobody invited them there? Themselves took it like that, and gathered. True?

    To be honest, you will not envy the riot police. Set them up in black. They have to work there "for three". Hence, most likely forced, excessive cruelty, or more correctly - rigidity - they are not teachers in kindergarten, after all, they work.
    Naturally, there are many random "spectators" there, and they also fall under the distribution. This, of course, aggravates the unsightly picture of what is happening.
    Because this is exactly what was conceived.
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    cmonman (Garik Mokin) 15 August 2020 03: 07
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    ... the difference between the Belarusian Maidan and the Ukrainian one is the absence of a single center and curators, which says that they did not prepare for it in advance.

    The slogan of the Ukrainian Maidan is no different from the Belarusian one!
    The main slogan of the Maidan was one neuter word - “Nabridlo!”, Or Tired in Russian. Not masculine - Tired (president), not feminine - Tired (power), but the neuter gender - Tired.
    Tired of everything - the corrupt government and the courts, corrupt officials and the police, in short, tired of everything that works against the concerns of a normal person.
    So it is with Lukashenka - the people are tired of him, and his authoritarian rule, and his bureaucracy. So it will be with Putin - the posters "Go away" or "I'm tired" are already appearing. The dictators must be removed only by the Maidan, they are ready to rule forever ...
    1. 123 Offline
      123 (123) 15 August 2020 11: 05
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      In many ways, you are right, only there is one unpleasant detail. As a rule, the results of "Maidans" are not used by ordinary people, and after that their life deteriorates, the country degrades and falls under external control.

      So it will be with Putin - the posters "Go away" or "I'm tired" are already appearing. The dictators must be removed only by the Maidan, they are ready to rule forever ...

      Some imbeciles have been walking around with such placards for a long time, but, as a rule, people around do not have interest in such calls. I will be happy to observe your elections. It will be interesting to see how the usurper and the pirate are demolished. yes
      If you really call a person a dictator, then, please, give the facts, on the basis of which the conclusion was made. Otherwise, there are doubts about your sanity.
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        cmonman (Garik Mokin) 15 August 2020 16: 26
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        I will be happy to observe your elections.

        I cannot say the same about your elections - there is nothing to observe.
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          123 (123) 15 August 2020 17: 04
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          I cannot say the same about your elections - there is nothing to observe.

          And don't say. Boring. Autumn, slush, some deputies are being elected. No one is particularly interested. Barricades will not be built. It remains to watch the overthrow of the Putin agent. Don't pump it up there, burn it to the fullest. fellow At least there will be something to talk about. laughing
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      Moskal 55 15 August 2020 20: 30
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      They explain to you fools that you will only make it much worse! And not only to yourself, but to the rest! Forgotten the 90s?
  • Citizen Mѣshkov (Sergѣi) 15 August 2020 04: 19
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    In 93, no one was embarrassed by the words: "Boris Nikolayevich, with their tanks", but here ...
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    Guerilla1 (Eremeev) 15 August 2020 12: 36
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    Quote: Bulanov
    If the Belarusians go to the partisans in the woods, then returning to the city "for salt" for potatoes, they may well see there a Polish or Lithuanian Gauleiter guarded by an American Negro sergeant! And then Sudoplatov will not help from Moscow!
    In the meantime, Lukashenka can impose a curfew and arrest violators for 30 days. And there, he will send them to the fields, to harvest potatoes. Who will run away - They will add another term. Everyone abroad will not be pulled.

    In Khabarovsk, over 6 protesters were detained. The National Guardsmen kicked and beat with truncheons during the arrest, even not resisting. They shot at the windows of people filming these facts. People living next to the pre-trial detention center in Khabarovsk are massively posting videos with inhuman screams emanating from the territory of the pre-trial detention center. Journalists affiliated with the independent media of Khodarkovsky-Navalny-Shnur are beaten up and even, about hospad, are detained by law enforcement agencies.
    Hold on, Khabarovsk, the Belarusian people will not allow Diagterev to impose a curfew and send those who disagree to felling in the taiga. Belarus is against the arrest of protesters for 30 days.

    And what about you, Mr. Bulanov? Ugly alaverdi, isn't it?

    ZY By the way, I'll go to the Central Department Store (I'm here in Minsk nearby, on foot), there are discounts today, to prepare children for school. I’ll buy a white flower, put a white ribbon on my arm, otherwise the people (doctors, teachers, workers) will look askance ... By the way, this is almost without sarcasm.
    1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 15 August 2020 13: 19
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      Do not overdo your passion to paint, but in truth lie. Even different "freedoms" do not know about this, you are the only author :)) The Internet quickly identifies liars ..
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    Moskal 55 15 August 2020 20: 18
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    Citizens of Russia! Let's not pretend to be very "smart and witty". Clever ones would not allow the USSR to fall apart! Now we need to support Old Man. Letters, telegrams, organized by the exit to the embassy. Who is enough for what. Old Man is not ideal, although clearly not "bloody". And Putin is not ideal. But the Maidan in Belarus is very bad for Russia.
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    Sergey A_2 (Siberian Yuzhanin) 19 August 2020 07: 14
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    Reminds me of Venezuela. There will also be Old Man at the helm, the rest in exile.
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    Sergey A_2 (Siberian Yuzhanin) 19 August 2020 07: 19
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    Only Westerners do not understand that our mentality is different, we cannot live with the values ​​that are stubbornly imposed on us from across the hill. Do not meddle in our monastery with your own rules, well, do not teach how to live and do not make predictions, you will look smarter. And you are always welcome to visit, only without your instructions.
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      Oleg Rambover (Oleg Rambover) 19 August 2020 16: 05
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      And what are our values, different from Westerners?