Belarusian political scientist: Russia wants bloodshed in Minsk


At the end of the presidential campaign, Alexander Lukashenko may declare emergency measures and postpone the elections. By this he would demonstrate his political weakness that could result in massive protests and repression. What is the possible interest of Russia here? The former rival of the Belarusian leader in the 2006 elections, political scientist Alyaksandr Milinkevich, is talking about this. His opinion is reported by the Polish edition Rzeczpospolita.


Many people think that it is enough to go outside to win. They think that Lukashenka will hand over the keys to his office and quietly leave. But the president has complete control over the security forces and is backed by wealthy elites. It would be nice if everything happened peacefully, without street violence. And in this sense, the interests of the Kremlin come to mind.

Russia wants bloodshed in Minsk. If blood is shed, Lukashenka will become an outcast in Europe for many years, and Western politicians will stop talking to him. Then he will be forced to deal only with the RF. I think it is beneficial for Moscow to force the authorities in Minsk to sign all roadmaps for the so-called deeper integration of Belarus and Russia. At the same time, most of the Belarusian society will fall into depression and lose all hope.

- Milinkevich believes.

According to the expert, the main thing is not the overthrow of Lukashenka, but the vision of the further economic and geopolitical path of the country's development. Some are sure that it is possible to overthrow the Belarusian leader, and think about the rest later. But there will be no time for that.

I would like to wake up in European Belarus - where there is a European language, culture, history and mentality. We must see our future in integration with the European Union. I know that today we will not be in the EU, but we need to strive for European standards. We must also have good relations with Russia, but not the same as today - in full economic dependence on Moscow

- emphasizes the Belarusian political scientist.
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  1. Bulanov Offline
    Bulanov (Vladimir) 5 August 2020 11: 54
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    I would like to wake up in European Belarus - where there is a European language, culture, history and mentality.

    1. Is the European language Esperanto? English is no longer European, England has left the EU.
    2. Culture - Gay Parades + LGBT?
    3. History - For example, the history of the 3rd Reich ...
    4. Mentality - repentance to blacks and a ban on Christmas.
  2. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 5 August 2020 12: 02
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    The main question is why EVERYONE is running away from today's Russia. The answer is clear, the Russian Federation is unsightly for everyone and no one wants to be like or befriend the Russian Federation ... Who is guilty, because the people are the same as under the USSR, when such problems did not arise ... Here the Russian government is completely different, both economic and political component in the Russian Federation repulsive to everyone ... The conclusion is clear, in order to reverse the anti-Russian situation, urgently change the government and its economic and political paradigms. As the well-known political scientist said, it's time to end with today's secretive Khazaria in Russia ...
    1. Kuzmich Sibiryakov (Kuzmich Sibiryakov) 5 August 2020 13: 29
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      Quote: Vladimir Tuzakov
      The main question is why EVERYONE is running away from today's Russia. The answer is clear, the Russian Federation is unsightly for everyone and no one wants to be like or befriend the Russian Federation ... Who is guilty, because the people are the same as under the USSR, when such problems did not arise ... Here the Russian government is completely different, both economic and political component in the Russian Federation repulsive to everyone ... The conclusion is clear, in order to reverse the anti-Russian situation, urgently change the government and its economic and political paradigms. As the well-known political scientist said, it's time to end with today's secretive Khazaria in Russia ...

      In other words, to push one's own interests further away, and to be obsequious to those who believe that Russia's riches are not justly gifted to it. Do it in this way. Report the results, try, it will be difficult.
      1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 5 August 2020 13: 55
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        So it is much simpler, all the new reformers in the USSR learned the ABCs of capitalism in Austria (under the patronage of Andropov, a Jew by his mother Feinstein.) .. It was Gaidar, Chubais and others like him who unfolded the collapse of the USSR ... So they launched Jewish feudal capitalism when Russian citizens fought for stalls and markets. Jews robbed billion-dollar concerns and banks, the Russians were left with leftovers ...
        1. Kuzmich Sibiryakov (Kuzmich Sibiryakov) 5 August 2020 18: 01
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          Quote: Vladimir Tuzakov
          So it is much easier, all the new reformers in the USSR studied the ABCs of capitalism in Austria (under the patronage of Andropov, a Jew by his mother Feinstein.) .. It was Gaidar, Chubais and others like them who unfolded the collapse of the USSR .. So they launched Jewish feudal capitalism when Russian citizens fought for stalls and markets. Jews robbed billion-dollar concerns and banks, the Russians were left with leftovers ...

          The laws of ECONOMY work the same everywhere. Like the laws of physics. Only in the USSR, closed to all borders, when there was practically no exchange of information - scientific, technical, economic, cultural, it was possible to create an economy operating on raw materials, almost free, on energy, almost free, on land that has no a penny of cost, using water that has no value, where gasoline was cheaper than soda, gas cost 4 kopecks per cubic meter, a 1 mm sheet of steel cost 7 rubles a ton ..... The invented laws of the Soviet economy created production technologies that consume raw materials per kilogram 10 times more, and 5 times more energy than analogs abroad. What kind of diot-constructor will puzzle over the efficiency of the URAL 375 car engine, which devours 80 liters of gasoline per 100 km? For what? All the savings for the year by this monster, in money, if you can put it in your jacket pocket. Who will allow opening the topic of modernization, since the economic effect is a penny? Who will drag the gas pipe to the Krasnoyarsk Territory if the gas does not cover the costs of the pipe NEVER? And so, the borders of the USSR disappeared. Take, for free, gas, gasoline, steel, copper, whatever you want !!!! Estonians became the second country. exporting copper. WHERE is this wealth? It's not hard to guess the first time. So the production of EVERYTHING has died. For when imports poured in, cheap, high-quality, our TVs at once became of no use to anyone. Zhiguli. Kamaz. Lathes ..... EVERYTHING.
          1. Bitter Offline
            Bitter (Gleb) 6 August 2020 23: 19
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            over the efficiency of the URAL 375 car engine, eating 80 liters of gasoline per 100 km

            The car was developed in the 60s and almost exclusively for warriors. Compare gas mileage to its capitalist peer-to-peer truck tractors and take it easy. Then some kind of "and diot-constructor" made a new motor and got Ural 4320. tongue

            ... imports poured in, cheap, high-quality, our TVs at once became of no use to anyone. Zhiguli. Kamaz. Lathes ..... EVERYTHING.

            This same import could not pour into all "other" countries, there these flows had already been regulated by state and other levers, and even not every product could appear in one country or another.

            ECONOMIC LAWS ...

            You can quieter, otherwise some will openly laugh when they hear about the myth of the "invisible hand of the market."
            1. Kuzmich Sibiryakov (Kuzmich Sibiryakov) 6 August 2020 23: 30
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              Quote: Bitter
              over the efficiency of the URAL 375 car engine, eating 80 liters of gasoline per 100 km

              The car was developed in the 60s and almost exclusively for warriors. Compare gas mileage to its capitalist peer-to-peer truck tractors and take it easy. Then some kind of "and diot-constructor" made a new motor and got Ural 4320. tongue

              ... imports poured in, cheap, high-quality, our TVs at once became of no use to anyone. Zhiguli. Kamaz. Lathes ..... EVERYTHING.

              This same import could not pour into all "other" countries, there these flows had already been regulated by state and other levers, and even not every product could appear in one country or another.

              ECONOMIC LAWS ...

              You can quieter, otherwise some will openly laugh when they hear about the myth of the "invisible hand of the market."

              Name a car model of similar characteristics for collective farms. You cannot say why the Union produced as many as 5 models of passenger cars in an amount sufficient only for a country of 6 million citizens. By the standards of an average country - 5 years of driving and one car per family, they had to be made not 600 thousand, but 12 million? Or is the tough hand of the state more capable of controlling the quality and quantity of goods for the people? Or did Her Majesty the Planned Economy make welfare of higher quality than the free market, which takes a completely perverse concept in your mouth? Then read on and try to accuse the author of lying.

              https://public.wikireading.ru/51104

              Why is socialism better than capitalism? Wasserman Anatoly Alexandrovich

              But the production plan contains as many equations as there are different types of products produced. In the mid-1970s, when the great cyberneticist Viktor [1] Mikhailovich Glushkov for the first time in the USSR published the arguments that I am now retelling in a simplified way, 20 million types of products were produced in the USSR. Hence, to calculate the plan, it was necessary to solve a system of 20 equations. And to perform for this 000 actions.
              Tired of counting zeros? Well, this can be done not manually, but on a computer. The fastest Soviet computer at that time performed 1 operations per second. And it took him to calculate the plan 000 seconds - approximately 000 years.
              True, in the Gauss method, many actions can be performed in parallel. That is, connect many computers to the case at once. And computers themselves are working faster every day. Now there are already billions of operations per second with a speed of operation. And if you connect a whole million (and there are no more in the whole world) computers with a hundred million performance, the plan for the USSR can be calculated in just 160 years ...
              In fact - thousands for 10-20. First, the coefficient before the exponent is far from one. Secondly, the overhead of organizing the parallel operation of computers takes away a significant portion of their performance. Hundreds of thousands and millions of computers will spend many times more time on interaction, on the exchange of intermediate results, than on the work itself.
              However, you can save something. For example, iron ore is not directly included in a plastic comb. Of course, the mold for the hairbrush is steel. And the tools for making the mold are steel. And the machines on which these tools are made contain a lot of iron. But at the intersection of the line "plastic comb" and the column "iron ore" there is zero. And there are a lot of such zeros in the system of material balance equations, according to which the plan is calculated. If you choose the right order of actions, most of these zeros will remain. For planned calculations, it is possible to reduce the exponent in the Gaussian method from three to two and a half. Although the proportionality coefficient in front of the degree increases many times. That is, the time for calculating the plan can be reduced to five to ten years.
              1. Bitter Offline
                Bitter (Gleb) 6 August 2020 23: 50
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                ... 5 years of running and one car per family, they had to be made not 600 thousand, but 12 million?

                You might think that in the 60s and 70s and 80s, every citizen of Western American countries had a car, but this is not so and not everyone could afford to buy one. Just like TVs and other consumer goods. Even today, many are content with used consumer goods.
                Look at how the concerns work, they also have "the same" plans, and if the "supervising" managers are unable to fulfill these plans, then they quietly leave.
                The globalization of the industry is impossible without a plan or "because I so wish."
                In general, you can't build anything without a plan, not even a sand castle.
                The one who works, and does not draw the desired zeros, passing them off as valid ones, makes the plan and lives well.
                1. Kuzmich Sibiryakov (Kuzmich Sibiryakov) 9 August 2020 19: 16
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                  Quote: Bitter
                  ... 5 years of running and one car per family, they had to be made not 600 thousand, but 12 million?

                  You might think that in the 60s and 70s and 80s, every citizen of Western American countries had a car, but this is not so and not everyone could afford to buy one. Just like TVs and other consumer goods. Even today, many are content with used consumer goods.
                  Look at how the concerns work, they also have "the same" plans, and if the "supervising" managers are unable to fulfill these plans, then they quietly leave.
                  The globalization of the industry is impossible without a plan or "because I so wish."
                  In general, you can't build anything without a plan, not even a sand castle.
                  The one who works, and does not draw the desired zeros, passing them off as valid ones, makes the plan and lives well.

                  You do not understand the DIFFERENCE in relation to the very concept - PLAN. The concept THERE and WITH US. If THERE an industrialist builds a plan for himself, for productive and efficient work, then we would have such a slogan - PLAN IS THE LAW. If THERE no one reported to anyone above (well, only if inside the company), the ministers did not care how much and what Coca-Cola would produce. And the industrialist had no bosses in principle. Our director, under the pressure of this completely not innocuous slogan, understood that being dismissed from work was after two years of failed work. And in Beria's times - not dismissal, but the Norilsk mine. Hence, as elsewhere in nature, protective mechanisms were invented in the form of hiding opportunities and additions in the implementation of the plan. It was possible, on good acquaintance, to drive up and interest the superior to give a plan .... to put it mildly, not very stressful.
                  Example:
                  You and I are the chairmen of collective farms in one region. Well, exactly the same collective farms. Both me and you can give something there in the amount of 100. It doesn't matter what. I am a truth-teller, I always climb and demand from the authorities, you are a clever girl, keep silent and sleep at meetings. Feed the district bosses a heifer leg, drink some wine, and you have a plan for 90, and mine, of course, for 110. At the end of the year, we did our best. They gave 100 each of what they should give. But, your plan is 110% fulfilled, and mine is 90%. In five years, you are an order bearer, I am in prison for the collapse of my collective farm. All my experts have long been with you. Your salary is higher, bonuses, banners and so on ...

                  Lying? Not at all. The Starodubov brothers. Both are chairmen, both in the same district, both are Heroes of Socialist Labor. Somewhere in the North of the country. The region is a failure, but they are .... There is one nuance - one of the brothers - a Deputy of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR.
            2. Kuzmich Sibiryakov (Kuzmich Sibiryakov) 6 August 2020 23: 48
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              Quote: Bitter
              This same import could not pour into all "other" countries, there these flows had already been regulated by state and other levers, and even not every product could appear in one country or another.

              Explain. That is, were there any barriers to trade on the territory of Russia with goods that did not belong to the strategic, obviously and long ago prohibited for trade with the USSR-Russia? Who could have stopped, for example, the BIG DUTCHMAN company from dragging poultry equipment to Russia, which is cheaper than Russian and more economical? A set of their equipment for the workshop cost 2000 million rubles in 1,8, while the Russian price was 3 million? I assembled more than 4 kits with my own hands (as part of a team, of course) in my factory, and I know what I'm talking about. And it was not prohibitions, but our purchasing power that was a brake on the saturation of decent equipment. It was much more difficult to sell something Russian THERE. Quotas were in effect there. Which need to be bypassed due to huge losses in price, dumping and competing.
            3. Kuzmich Sibiryakov (Kuzmich Sibiryakov) 9 August 2020 18: 56
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              Quote: Bitter
              Ural 4320

              Control fuel consumption. At a speed of 60 km / h, l / 100 km 35. Excellent modernization.
              Taken from here:

              http://www.autoopt.ru/auto/encyclopedia/truck/ural/mark/ural-432031/
    2. tagil Offline
      tagil (Sergei) 5 August 2020 20: 18
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      The conclusion is clear, in order to reverse the anti-Russian situation, urgently change the government and its economic and political paradigms. As the well-known political scientist said, it's time to end with today's secretive Khazaria in Russia ...

      Only one thing is not clear what you care about Russia. You have already changed the president and the government, now everyone in Europe is happy, everyone who is not lazy puts you in the squid pose. Well, in our country we will somehow figure it out ourselves without representatives of the 6th chamber.
  3. Cheburashk Offline
    Cheburashk (Vladimir) 5 August 2020 14: 39
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    When Russia stopped giving out and paying money to the “allies” for nice words about friendship, then everyone (in particular the CIS) began to take offense and threaten Russia to leave for the West or the EU.
    It is amazing how Milinkevich stands for Lukashenka in general and scolds Russia. The last thing Russia needs is any bloodshed in Belarus.

    We must see our future in integration with the European Union.

    Does the example of Ukraine teach you nothing? Yes, Mr. Milinkevich ???? For whom it became easier from the post-Soviet countries from joining the EU, for whom ??? The economy has grown, the standard of living has improved, etc. ?!