Russia will not get “New Yalta”: is “Perestroika 2.0” ahead?

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In the political segment of Russian Telegram channels, half-panic sentiments about the consequences of the upcoming victory of Democratic candidate Joe Biden in the upcoming presidential elections in the United States have become popular.

They say that such a victory will lead to the introduction of such tough sanctions (primarily against the financial and oil and gas sectors of the Russian Federation) that the collapse of the Russian economics и political shocks will be inevitable. And with such a catastrophic development of events, the Russian elite will objectively have only two scenarios.



The first one is "Perestroika 2.0" or "Gorbachev 2.0", where you will have to go to at least an honorable surrender. Although the question remains whether the opposite side will offer this very honorable surrender and how it will ultimately differ from unconditional.

The second possible scenario is a remake of December 7, 1941 (Pearl Harbor), only on a more global (and, of course, non-nuclear) scale, in the hope of imposing its own conditions on the Western world by force of arms. Alas, this path is often hinted at by some characters, not only in network analytics, but even on television talk shows. In general, it is clear what this plan of action threatens to turn out in the end.

At the same time, no one offers any third option for an obvious reason: it simply does not exist. It is impossible to continue waging a "cold war" with a GDP volume of the level of tiny South Korea. Even the USSR, which in the 1980s had the second (!) After the United States, the world's economy, and not the twelfth, like the modern Russian Federation, could not do that.

In the near future, the “fork” will obviously consist of the two options described above. However, delaying the decision in favor of one of them will inevitably mean a choice in one direction or another, but on much worse conditions.

The possible arrival of Mr. Biden in the White House is more likely not a cause, but a catalyst in the inevitable processes.

Wrong era?


It is now also clear that a conciliatory article by Russian leader Vladimir Putin on World War II, published in June in the American conservative magazine The National Interest, did not produce the desired result.

Another attempt to remind how the West “forgot” that the conflict essentially began with the Munich Treaty of 1938 and about the role of the USSR in the defeat of Nazism was not very expressive. She did not change anything outside of Russia and did not particularly impress the "home" audience.

The attempt to hint at a certain "summit of Russia, China, France, the United States and Great Britain" that took place was met with ridicule by the foreign press. The olive branch extended from the Kremlin, real or imaginary, was rejected.

The reason for such a strange attitude lies in the obvious fact: the world to which Vladimir Putin is trying to appeal, and which, perhaps, exists in the views of at least part of the Russian elite, no longer exists.

There is neither the spirit of the Elbe, nor the Yalta world order. It did not collapse after Churchill's speech at Fulton, or even with the first salvoes of the Korean War. After all, then, although the former allies found themselves on opposite sides of the Cold War, they still retained respect for each other. Now there is no past respect.

In addition, the world has objectively changed too much since 1945. The grandchildren of the "military generation" are coming to power in many countries today, for whom those events are of more historical than political value. In the end, of the three superpowers that divided the world in Yalta, now only one remains afloat - the United States.

Senseless "reboot"?


Three months ago, some domestic experts declared with inexplicable confidence that the coronavirus would become an analogue of world war to “reset” the global political system. The unnamed purpose of such expert aspirations was the idea that the Russian elite could strip off the stigma of “Cold War losers” and become a participant in a new “concert of powers”.

These hopes were predictably dashed. Why is it expected? It's very simple.

It is no coincidence that the “reset” of the system of international relations occurs after major wars. Based on their results, issues are resolved, first of all, the robbery of the losing parties - in financial and territorial terms, and against this background a new system of relations is being built, which will exist until the next redistribution.

The coronavirus cannot be robbed - it has nothing. No territories, no wealth. There are no markets to divide. This means that those will inevitably appear on the horizon who will be robbed of all of the above by military force.

It must be understood that nuclear arsenals are no longer the deterrent factor that they served thirty or forty years ago. They probably will not be launched by either side for exactly the same reason that in the Second World War they did not risk using poison gases - everyone was afraid of a crushing response in the same way.

It is, of course, too early to talk about war drums. But it is already obvious that no “new Yalta” with Russia, “G2” with China, or even local deals with Iran or North Korea should be expected.

Globalization has made the world small, and the Great Lockdown's economic crisis has made it even smaller. Such conditions are rather conducive not to an absentee "concert of powers", but to a big fight to the bitter end.
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  1. +6
    29 July 2020 09: 14
    Someone discovered Karl Marx and predicted a world war. Suddenly, yes.
  2. 0
    29 July 2020 09: 24
    Ha. This was understandable. But the struggle for markets never stopped. And nobody canceled neo-neo-colonialism.
    Everything will be, as before, only harder. Since the oligarch of Russia the fry grew stronger. China too, weapons in generations have risen in price, and all sorts of Malaysia also got rich ...
  3. -6
    29 July 2020 09: 29
    this is "Perestroika 2.0" or "Gorbachev 2.0", where you will at least have to go for an honorable surrender.

    I'm just wondering what the author means by surrender? Russia capitulated back in the 90s. Putin now maintains this status quo. The only thing left is the land, the rest is all sold! The West protects Putin. Therefore, he does not pay attention to the lawlessness that he does.

    but to a big fight to the bitter end.

    Putin does not know how to fight. To squeeze out, to seize what is badly lying, to press against lawlessness, as with Grudinin, Platoshkin, Furgal - this is his. And fight? He hasn't spoken honestly to anyone in 20 years, not even in debates. Before the government, he reads from a piece of paper. Nobody takes into account Putin, hence all this Russophobia and insults at all levels. This is for our fans and some even in the eyes ...

    ... but in natural selection,
    Putin is better anyway.
    1. 123
      +2
      29 July 2020 10: 08
      You forgot one more character in your devastating speech, however, it is not surprising. Zrada happened, "coronopsychosis" bit him, the one that does not exist. belay Neither the hockey amulet saved nor the life-giving tractor.

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    3. +2
      3 August 2020 16: 53
      Quote: steel maker
      Putin does not know how to fight. Squeeze out, seize what is bad, press on iniquity

      By your logic, war is a legal method! Hmm. Then be prepared that "legal" methods will be applied to you, personally. And do not resent the "lawlessness." However, all methods of capitalism are like that. This is also why your indignation is strange.
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    +4
    29 July 2020 10: 39
    Globalization has made the world small, and the Great Lockdown's economic crisis has made it even smaller. Such conditions are rather conducive not to an absentee "concert of powers", but to a big fight to the bitter end.

    Not only globalization has made the world small, but also the increase in the range of conventional (non-nuclear) weapons. The situation has changed in 70 years, it will not work to sit behind a puddle selling weapons. Nowhere. Absolutely. In addition, no one is going to play by their rules - let us fight you, but mind you - don't touch our territory.
    There is virtually no line between nuclear and conventional conflict. Reactors on aircraft carriers and submarines. What happens if a conventional missile hits one of these ships in Norfolk? Can you imagine the consequences?
    There is no guarantee that the conflict will develop into a nuclear one, no, from a word at all.
    They are not ready for a full-scale conflict, because a positive result is not guaranteed. If things get really bad, they can depict their Pearl Harbor out of desperation. In the meantime, they just have to pretend and puff out their cheeks. That's just not particularly impressive. The Chinese disinfectants entering the Chinese consulate look very symbolic. good Processing the "gadyushnik" will not hurt at all. laughing
    1. +1
      30 July 2020 13: 29
      123, you, unlike the author, have more credibility. It seems that the author, in his panicky mood, no longer sees what all sorts of Rains, Echo Matsa, Novo Gaztnya and other IPSO APU whisper to him.
      1. 123
        0
        30 July 2020 14: 22
        you have more credibility than the author. It seems that the author, in his panicky mood, no longer sees what all sorts of Rains, Echo Matsa, Novogaztnya and other IPSO APU whisper to him.

        This is not for me to judge. Maybe the author's task was to find a "warm response" from readers and increased activity in the comments, and not the maximum "believability". hi
        1. +1
          30 July 2020 15: 13
          But the deliberate lie of people repels ... In vain the author is so, in vain ...
          1. 123
            +2
            30 July 2020 16: 10
            But the deliberate lie of people repels ... In vain the author is so, in vain ...

            In our time, this is not uncommon, information hygiene must be observed. laughing
            1. +2
              30 July 2020 21: 53
              Well, we understood each other ... unlike some ... wink
  6. +10
    29 July 2020 10: 50
    All this is nonsense. North Korea and Cuba, lacking resources, have long lived under sanctions and are continuing their course. And in Cuba, one of the best medicine in the world was also organized. Russia needs to work for the domestic market and produce its main products. Finally, to revive our own seed fund, to produce our own medicines. To restore their forests and scientific potential so that the salary of a scientist is not 14 thousand, but at least 2 times higher. And when the standard of living in Russia becomes much better than that of its neighbors, then the people from the former Soviet Union will be drawn, and possibly together with their land to Russia. If you shout - "everything is gone!" - you can't build anything new. You need to work for your country, and not for a foreign uncle and his banks ...
    1. +1
      29 July 2020 11: 00
      hi That's right, Comrade Bulanov! good
    2. -6
      29 July 2020 15: 37
      Quote: Bulanov
      North Korea and Cuba, lacking resources, have long lived under sanctions and continue on their course.

      Yes, there is still something to strive for.
    3. -3
      29 July 2020 16: 05
      You, apparently, have little idea of ​​the life of ordinary citizens of Cuba and the DPRK. I have not been to North Korea - God had mercy, but on the "island of freedom" a few years ago I had a chance to visit and the impressions of the local standard of living are very impressive. In short: the inhabitants of the most depressed regions of the Russian Federation, in comparison with ordinary Cubans, live richly and happily. So don't take this development model as a model.

      Quote: Bulanov
      And when the standard of living in Russia becomes much better than that of its neighbors, then the people from the former Soviet Union will be drawn, and possibly together with their land to Russia.

      At the end of 2019, the gross national income per capita in the Russian Federation was USD 10,230, in Estonia - 20,970, in Lithuania - 17,350. So, in the foreseeable future, the Russians have no chance to catch up and overtake even the Balts in this indicator ...
      1. +6
        29 July 2020 16: 16
        You, citizen Bindyuzhnik, are you kidding, or don't you understand Russian? Well I write that "North Korea and Cuba, without resources ..". - And Russia has a huge amount of resources! And with these resources, only those who cannot do anything, or who are not allowed to make the country prosperous, can whine. There were always enough craftsmen in Russia! And if someone does not give, then we need to identify these citizens and present them to the people! Someone else will not build a country for us, we ourselves need to work and demand that money not go over the hill, but invested in production in Russia! Let bread, meat, a car, or a TV set be a little more expensive than abroad, but it will be ours, a national product, for which our citizen will receive a salary, and not a foreign one. Develop healthy protectionism!
        1. -1
          29 July 2020 16: 40
          What is the significance of Russia's huge resources if this circumstance has not yet positively affected the real standard of living of ordinary citizens of the Russian Federation? If this continues, then the very same Russian craftsmen of all stripes will continue to leave the edges of their native aspens in search of a better life. Protectionism, alas, will not help ...
      2. +4
        29 July 2020 20: 31
        At the end of 2019, the gross national income per capita in the Russian Federation was USD 10,230, in Estonia - 20,970, in Lithuania - 17,350. So, in the foreseeable future, the Russians have no chance to catch up and overtake even the Balts in this indicator ...

        Is it okay that the Russian ruble is simply trite undervalued against the dollar?
        Moreover, according to the parity of its purchasing power, approximately and at least 3 times (!)
        Anyone who knows even a little what economics is, understands what I'm talking about.
        And for the poorly educated: there is such a thing - "Big Mac index" (and this is not a joke).

        This index is convenient because the list of ingredients from which this hamburger is made is the same for all countries where McDonald's snacks are present.
        So, in ideal conditions, for the same amount, converted into another currency based on the exchange rate, in any country in the world, you can buy the same amount of goods. As a result, the difference in the cost of a big mac in different countries will show the undervaluation of a particular currency.

        Now it remains to make a simple comparison: in Russia, a big mac costs $ 1,65 (110 rubles), and in the USA - $ 5,58 (373 rubles).

        So clearer?
        1. -7
          29 July 2020 20: 50
          Quote: Dear sofa expert.
          So clearer?

          What I have already forgotten, you will not learn until the end of your life. bully
          1. +6
            30 July 2020 08: 46
            What I have already forgotten

            Yes Yes. What I did not know, and is somehow easily forgotten, right?)
            I gave you a specific argument against the next nonsense you said. Tell me honestly, you have nothing to say to this, and you "accidentally passed through" here.
            1. -4
              30 July 2020 11: 23
              Such arguments can only convince the most dense lumpen proletarian from the Russian hinterland. lol Because it is clear to any more or less knowledgeable person that a hamburger in America costs 5,58 USD and what is sold in Russia at a price of 110 rubles, as they once said in our Odessa, "there are two big differences." hi
              1. +4
                30 July 2020 13: 13
                a hamburger in America for 5,58 USD and what is sold in Russia at a price of 110 rubles, as they once said in our Odessa, "two big differences."

                Not convincing)

                Firstly, because the same product is taken for comparison:

                because the list of ingredients this hamburger is made from is the same for all countries where McDonald's snacks are present.

                And this index, although for people like you, was not invented by me. And it reflects reality very accurately.

                Secondly, very few people in the world are interested in what they said “at you” in Odessa. Where is the world, and where is Odessa?)

                And by the way, for the quality and identity of hamburgers (and others)
                McDonald's watches itself. And very carefully. If anything - claims there.
                1. -3
                  30 July 2020 16: 19
                  Quote: Dear sofa expert.
                  Not convincing)

                  I had no intention of convincing you of anything. laughing

                  Quote: Dear sofa expert.
                  Where is the world, and where is Odessa?)

                  Odessa was and remains a part of the big world, but the place where you live looks more like a zone ...
                  1. +4
                    30 July 2020 16: 47
                    I had no intention of convincing you of anything.

                    Not? Ah, well, maybe it seemed. Just like this text:

                    At the end of 2019, the gross national income per capita in the Russian Federation was USD 10,230, in Estonia - 20,970, in Lithuania - 17,350. So, in the foreseeable future, the Russians have no chance to catch up and overtake even the Balts in this indicator ...

                    Apparently, he was freaking out.) Then let me freeze in deep sorry)

                    Odessa was and remains a part of the big world

                    Understand. But for some reason you preferred a small country (a part of a small world?) To this "part of the big world"

                    but the place where you live looks more like a zone ...

                    Do you draw such conclusions because I gave you an example with McDonald's? No, I don't live in this overseas cesspool. And I don't eat Big Macs either.
                    1. -4
                      30 July 2020 16: 56
                      Quote: Dear sofa expert.
                      Do you draw such conclusions because I gave you an example with McDonald's? No, I don't live in this overseas cesspool.

                      By the way, in that very "cesspool", by the way, in McDonald's today only the very scum of society eat, the majority of normal citizens prefer other catering points.
                      1. +2
                        30 July 2020 18: 06
                        most of the normal citizens prefer other catering points.

                        Well then, let's summarize.
                        In public catering generally eat, as you say, "the dregs of society." By the way, those whom you called garbage - 90% of the population of the "overseas cesspool" (we have already agreed on the cesspool, by the way).
                        Successful people eat, ideally, at home, with their families. I don't mean forced snacks during working hours.
                      2. -5
                        30 July 2020 19: 58
                        Quote: Dear sofa expert.
                        about the cloaca, we all, looking, have already agreed).

                        The chances that I can agree on something with you are zero.

                        Quote: Dear sofa expert.
                        those you call trash - 90% of the population

                        You have very inaccurate data on the preferences of Americans.
                      3. +3
                        30 July 2020 20: 57
                        The chances that I can agree on something with you are zero.

                        Oh, and for God's sake!)
                        After all, you called the Americans that yourself.

                        In the same "cesspool", by the way, in McDonald's today, only the very dregs of society eat

                        See? America is a cesspool, Americans are the dregs of society. They didn't pull you by the tongue.)

                        You have very inaccurate data on the preferences of Americans.

                        And, of course, where am I, I live in the thicket of the taiga. Not like some are in the desert)
                      4. -5
                        30 July 2020 21: 06
                        Quote: Dear sofa expert.
                        Not like some are in the desert)

                        With one eye on my "desert" laughing you would die of envy.
                      5. +6
                        30 July 2020 21: 12
                        Looking at my "desert" with one eye, laughing you would die of envy.

                        Yes, I saw in the pictures. I was not going to say anything bad about your small country. For some reason, you are trying to defame my Motherland with your long tongue. Don't touch someone else's, and yours will be intact.
                      6. -5
                        30 July 2020 21: 21
                        Quote: Dear sofa expert.
                        For some reason you are trying to defame my Motherland with your long tongue. Don't touch someone else's, and yours will be intact.

                        I recommend that you continue to refrain from determining the length of my tongue and other unworthy attacks on your opponent. I have no intention of denigrating your country, I am just trying to judge its deeds without the pink glasses of official propaganda. And mine will be "untouched" anyway - I will do my best ...
                      7. +5
                        30 July 2020 21: 27
                        just trying to judge her deeds without rose-colored glasses

                        Judge not lest ye be judged.
                        With regard to your recommendations, save them for someone else. For example, for your grandchildren. If people like you keep an eye on their languages, then your grandchildren's future will be easier. Half of the world doesn't like you anyway. The Russians still treat you well. The key word is for now.
                      8. -5
                        30 July 2020 21: 34
                        Quote: Dear sofa expert.
                        The Russians still treat you well. The key word is for now.

                        The kind attitude of Russians to my people has long been known - the Pale of Settlement, pogroms, oppression, state anti-Semitism. Thanks, fed up.
                      9. +5
                        30 July 2020 21: 39
                        The kind attitude of Russians to my people has long been known - the Pale of Settlement, pogroms, oppression, state anti-Semitism. Thanks, fed up.

                        And that's why you fled from Ukraine?)) Interesting logic.
                        But I wonder if your grandfather (figuratively) would agree with you, remembering how a Russian soldier liberated him from Buchenwald?
                      10. -3
                        30 July 2020 21: 49
                        I didn’t run away, but I left completely legally. As for my grandfather, he ended the war as the commander of a tank company in the army of General Rybalko, and my father, having ascribed an extra year and a half to himself, went to the front in incomplete 17 years and served in the regimental intelligence throughout the war. They, like my other relatives in those years, themselves actively fought against the Nazis, it is today in Russia there is an opinion that all the Jews in Tashkent were sitting out.
                      11. +4
                        30 July 2020 21: 57
                        Today in Russia there is an opinion that all Jews in Tashkent were hiding out.

                        I do not think so.
                        And I knew many Jews. And in childhood, and in the army, and later. And I have friends among them. And from no one have ever heard such nonsense, about oppression, etc. You yourself are looking for some kind of excuse. For what, by the way? From Ukraine Any adequate person is obliged to dump at the first opportunity.
                      12. -3
                        30 July 2020 22: 04
                        Quote: Dear sofa expert.
                        I have never heard such nonsense from anyone, about oppression, etc.

                        All clear.

                        Quote: Dear sofa expert.
                        From Ukraine

                        I was leaving not from Ukraine, but from the USSR.
                      13. +4
                        30 July 2020 22: 25
                        I have never heard such nonsense from anyone, about oppression, etc. All clear.

                        Then all the more I do not understand the reason for your being here. It seems that the topic of the article did not touch upon your country?
                        What is the meaning of your hysterical posts here and now?)
                        I don’t understand what drives you? Do you have few problems in your country, or what? Your business, of course. Do you want to hear the negative in your address here? So this is a pathology, as it were. Masochism is called. Then you urgently need to see a doctor!)
                      14. -3
                        30 July 2020 22: 33
                        Quote: Dear sofa expert.
                        What is the meaning of your hysterical posts here and now?

                        Where did you find hysteria in my posts? wassat
                      15. +3
                        30 July 2020 22: 48
                        Where did you find hysteria in my posts?

                        Yes, this is not the first time I have "pleasure" to communicate with you)) You even once threatened me) This is generally nonsense. Firstly, it's funny to do it here, and secondly, who knows who you can run into. After all, you personally do not know anyone. You can get into a stupid situation.
                      16. -2
                        31 July 2020 05: 56
                        Where is the hysteria, the object of threats? laughing
                      17. +3
                        31 July 2020 08: 47
                        So I noticed that you here boast from time to time: "I have 2 higher educations."

                        Am I an ignoramus with two higher educations and knowledge of three languages ​​at the native level? Walk on, you are frankly illiterate.

                        Do you really consider this a pass to smart interlocutors? Or a guarantee of the ability to think?
                        I think that this is not so.
                        After all, you do not even understand that higher education as a degree of study, in itself, can only be one!
                        There can be several diplomas, several specializations, but education is a priori one, and it, this higher education, in itself does not make a person smarter, better, or somehow superior to others.
                        Because Education is just a process of acquiring knowledge.
                        To have an education, and to be educated, this is how they say in your Odessa: two big differences!
                        But education is already the result of a person receiving this education.
                        Conclusion: not every person who was formally able to get an education is in fact educated.
                        If in the process of life a person does not learn to think, if he does not read, is not interested in the meaning, does not try to understand, if he lives only externally - he slips, having gained superficial knowledge, the very meaning of life eludes him.
                        And this is precisely the conclusion that suggests itself, reading your posts, it is not clear for what purpose.

                        No offense, think about it.

                        PS Remember that here many educated people communicate with you, both with "languages" and with diplomas, and most importantly - cultural ones.
                        For the rest, I wish you nothing bad.)
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                      20. +2
                        30 July 2020 22: 00
                        UDE, you remind him who created VOSR, for the most part, and who were the first (and not only at the beginning - then there were also enough of them in power) leaders of Soviet Russia! A Jew drives a Jew and a Jew!
                      21. +4
                        30 July 2020 22: 09
                        Actually, I don't understand the other. Why do these "guys" come here at all and throw mud at Russia. They seem to identify themselves with Israel (which, in principle, has quite normal relations with the Russians), but immediately sprinkle openly "maydanut" bile. So who are they all the same?
                        If Jews, then why are they playing for the country of victorious Nazism? Or have the Jews suffered from the Nazis a little? Or is it just that these "guys" are not like real Jews: Clever and intelligent? Most likely it is. They even have some proletarian nicknames. And for more, apparently, just the mind was not enough.)
                        Or they are still Ukrainians who are embarrassed to identify themselves with their homeland.
                      22. +2
                        4 August 2020 22: 16
                        UDE, and these are "professional emigrants" who need to prove (first of all to themselves) that they made the RIGHT CHOICE by leaving Russia. We went through this after the GW 18-20 years of the last century! There, too, emigrants scribbled in the newspapers that they had escaped from the soviet deputies "in time". And they earned their living in third-rate restaurants as waiters or taxi drivers, and their wives (at best) as seamstresses (or even on the panel went out - "it seems like a day to eat hotzza!"). Although there were those who went to the servants of the Nazis and other MI6 ...
                      23. +1
                        5 August 2020 23: 53
                        these are "professional emigrants"

                        Yes, it seems to me that some are even easier. These are ordinary Ukrainians, or as they call themselves - Ukrainians), who successfully marry girls who have a couple of drops of Jewish blood, and so on. They are not Jews. Jews are smart.
                      24. +1
                        8 August 2020 18: 44
                        .................. Jews are not always smart ....... especially when the thirst for money or power obscures their eyes ........
                      25. +1
                        1 August 2020 02: 51
                        And what have you got to do with it? Did you live outside the Pale of Settlement? Have you been smashed? Not?
                      26. -3
                        1 August 2020 11: 16
                        I had a chance to sip anti-Semitism in full measure during the period of "developed socialism" ...
                      27. +1
                        1 August 2020 22: 10
                        In the Pale of Settlement or as a result of pogroms?
                      28. -3
                        2 August 2020 00: 10
                        In everyday Soviet life, as a result of the policy of the state. anti-Semitism conducted by the leadership of the USSR.
                      29. +2
                        2 August 2020 02: 41
                        Truth? But Zhores Alferov for some reason did not complain about such a "policy" about himself ....
                      30. -4
                        2 August 2020 05: 05
                        And I'm not complaining, I'm just stating a well-known fact - there was a state in the Brezhnev USSR. anti-Semitism.
                      31. 0
                        3 November 2020 23: 35
                        For some reason he did not state ...
                      32. -2
                        4 November 2020 03: 31
                        This is just his opinion.
                      33. +1
                        11 November 2020 20: 01
                        Then there is no need to pass off YOUR opinion as a "well-known fact" ... Especially J. I knew Alferov noddingly through his students, but there was no Internet anonymus with the "bindyuzhnik" chasing ... What, in fairness, I absolutely do not regret ...
                      34. -2
                        12 November 2020 04: 49
                        I also do not regret very much that I do not know you.
                      35. +1
                        12 November 2020 11: 58
                        Great, so raving about "politics" and yellow stars in the settled zone can no longer shake the air ...
                      36. -2
                        12 November 2020 17: 43
                        Somehow I'll decide what I can.
                      37. +1
                        17 November 2020 02: 28
                        Hardly ... you were killed during the pogrom ...
                      38. -2
                        17 November 2020 06: 04
                        My dear, to kill me is a laborious task and not every pogromist can do it, rather I will finish off these geeks angry if they dare to poke their heads.
                      39. +1
                        19 November 2020 19: 33
                        I have no doubt that the Wonder-Wumen outfit performed by your new compatriot will suit you ...
                      40. -2
                        19 November 2020 19: 40
                        You have a very primitive sense of humor. corresponds to the level of intelligence.
                      41. 0
                        19 November 2020 20: 37
                        What kind of humor is this? other than by a miracle, I can not explain your breakthrough beyond the cordon from the system of "state anti-Semitism of developed socialism" .... Alferov, there, blundered ... Super-hero theme - just right ... "I'll finish it off, if they dare to poke their nose" and all that ... Where the system is, it usually looks like this:



                      42. +2
                        1 August 2020 10: 40
                        And mine, in any case, will be "untouched"

                        Nobody can guarantee this.
                      43. -4
                        1 August 2020 11: 17
                        Can. IDF - Israel Defense Forces.
                      44. +4
                        1 August 2020 12: 26
                        Only this is not a guarantee, but a probability.
              2. +4
                30 July 2020 13: 44
                Naturally! They brought you the EXCHANGE rate (for example), and you, like that fat-headed one, rested against the gate and compare US dollars and Russian rubles IN PURE FORM WITHOUT EXCHANGE RATE - DIRECTLY! laughing
                And for your information, the rates look very interesting at the exchange rate. In addition, the cost of the ingredients of this product (although I disdain this disgusting - I did not consume and do not intend to) speaks for itself. And there is also such a thing as the place of production of these ingredients ... In general, it is so clear that you understand finance and economics like that patchy in oranges ... in general, everything is clear. wassat fool
                1. -3
                  30 July 2020 16: 21
                  Quote: A.Lex
                  you understand finance and economics, like that patchy in oranges

                  Rudeness and insults of an opponent are your method of conducting a discussion. Lead it yourself, I do not intend to answer you.
                  1. +3
                    30 July 2020 21: 41
                    Find the insult. If it were, the administration would have already removed the comment. You flatter yourself too much to offend you. You are an ignoramus and ... so on. They give you an example of the real state of affairs, and you are offended that YOU YOURSELF do not understand anything! laughing laughing laughing
                    1. -5
                      30 July 2020 22: 01
                      Am I an ignoramus, with two higher educations and knowledge of three languages ​​at the native level? Walk on, you are frankly illiterate.
                      1. +1
                        4 August 2020 23: 01
                        ........ one citizen lived with us (even during the times of the USSR) with two higher educations ... so for his such education, his wife left him (she could not stand his madness, not only in ordinary life, but also in bed). ...... when he came home from work (it was winter ... and it was getting dark early), there was only a note on the table where everything was popularly painted for him .... he got overwhelmed and he pulled her (she wrote that she left for the regional center - 101 km) ... ran all night - in trousers, a shirt, barefoot ... since then he has only been seen like this (he lived for quite a long time), walked - begged ........
                        There is another story (I heard it in the 80s, when I was studying in pedagogy): the young man was very talented - polyglot, 2 higher ... he decided to get one more ... And at the end, something happened in the brain - he went , in general, the head (what was there - history is silent). So he walked around the Soviet - he sang songs (they say he had a good voice) - that is how he lived ..........
                        But there are two more definitions for those like you:
                        1. The individual is not able to find himself in life. Can ONLY study (unable to work) - "excellent student's syndrome" (or, in other words, "eternal student's syndrome") is one of the inferiority complexes.
                        2. An individual who considers himself underestimated in a team ... here you can generally write a lot (in the wrong place and at the wrong time).
                        By the way! It is the people belonging to category 1 and category 2. who are the environment that supplies the so-called "infantry" (or "torpedoes" in simplified language) to the "non-system". Very well these "infantrymen" were used in the so-called "Maidan", where these "torpedoes" were sent in batches, at the beginning of the riots, under the batons of law enforcement officers, who set their brains in the most intelligible way - by "democratizers" ... complete - they were thrown into the trash or (most of them) were poured into an atom. The curators of these "maidanov" want to do the same in the Russian Federation .... So far, they manage to localize these (which is not a dirty word - it's just a person's INABILITY to find himself in life and adequately perceive the reality surrounding them). But since there are not so many similar (adult) torpedoes, the organizers of the riots are trying to FREEBY involve children and adolescents who (with rare exceptions) are very susceptible to various temptations and are unable (as well) to adequately understand the complexities of adult life ... .......
      3. 123
        +2
        30 July 2020 15: 36
        You, apparently, have little idea of ​​the life of ordinary citizens of Cuba and the DPRK.

        What did you want? To drive you under sanctions for 30 years and add a blockade, do you think you will live much better than the Cubans?

        At the end of 2019, the gross national income per capita in the Russian Federation was USD 10,230, in Estonia - 20,970, in Lithuania - 17,350. So, in the foreseeable future, the Russians have no chance to catch up and overtake even the Balts in this indicator ...

        Firstly, it depends on the generosity of the Germans, if the subsidies continue to increase, then, probably, yes, it will be difficult to catch up.
        Secondly, something tells me that you can buy a little more for the same amount in Russia than in the Baltics, the purchasing power is still different.
        And finally, the imbalance between the produced GDP and income is observed, it is necessary to somehow equalize (to make it clearer for you, Israel added to the comparison).

        While the figures for Israel roughly coincide, the Balts' income level lags behind the produced GDP by about 2 times, then in Russia the difference is already 3 times. We are clearly not paid extra. winked
        But this again does not take into account purchasing power parity (PPP). So, about the chances to catch up and overtake .... I would not be so categorical.

        This is what GDP per capita looks like.
        Russia - 30; Latvia - 819,6 32; Lithuania - 986,5; Estonia - 38; Israel - 751,0.

        And so the data on the level of income per capita:
        Russia - 10; Latvia - 230,0 16; Lithuania - 740,0; Estonia - 17; Israel - 350,0.

        https://knoema.com/pjeqzh/gdp-per-capita-by-country-forecast-from-imf-2020-2024
        1. +3
          30 July 2020 21: 48
          Regarding the GDP - it's still how to count! If so, as the Yankees and others like them think, then everything will be fun! All these calculations of GDP, VAT, GVA and other CNS ... You can calculate all this in different ways - whoever benefits from it will count it.
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            +5
            30 July 2020 22: 11
            Regarding the GDP - it's still how to count! If so, as the Yankees and others like them think, then everything will be fun! All these calculations of GDP, VAT, GVA and other CNS ... You can calculate all this in different ways - whoever benefits from it will count it that way.

            I took the numbers "as not profitable." Oddly enough it turned out, quite curious, suggestive ...
            It turns out that in the Baltics they produce a unit of a product, about half of its value goes into income, in the USA it is about the same as how much is "produced", so much into income. In Israel, the picture is similar, even for some reason the income is slightly higher than what was produced what (I do not know why this is so, maybe the data is incorrect, maybe the peculiarities of local accounting, people are talented laughing ). But our state of affairs is rather curious. They produced the goods, the third part goes to income, and 2/3 is not clear where. request This is not a corvee or a quitrent. Even the Baskaks did not collect that much. laughing Maybe I accidentally went offshore and foreign shareholders. belay Isn't it time to go underground? laughing
            1. 0
              4 August 2020 22: 10
              laughing laughing Take your time - it will be more fun!
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                +1
                4 August 2020 23: 19
                do not rush - it will be more fun!

                Okay, I'll wait, but I moved the food supply to the cellar. laughing
                1. +2
                  8 August 2020 19: 03
                  laughing It's easier for us in the village wink
    4. -4
      29 July 2020 17: 06
      Do you want a standard of living like in Cuba or North Korea?)))
    5. +1
      30 July 2020 13: 32
      You need to work for your country, and not for a foreign uncle and his banks ...

      To clarify a little: EVERYONE should work in his place in good faith (and in the FSB-MVD too) - then foreign threats will not be so dangerous.
  7. +4
    29 July 2020 12: 24
    Eco of the author carried. Having listened to Murdoch and Turner's lackeys (misunderstood as journalists), Biden's lackey (misunderstood as Ukrainian) paints an apocalyptic picture of Putin's death throes.
    And the world is simpler to the point of primitivism. Putin and Russia don't need you. Absolutely. We do everything ourselves, what is not enough - we will buy it in China. And if the Great Lord and Liver of Ukraine Biden (the head of the Irish mafia) comes to power in the United States, nothing will change in Russia. We do not need external loans, loans, who need profit, are sorted out like hot cakes (half of Russia's external debt is held by American pension funds - the last hope of American pensioners).
    Biden will bang his retirees? Yes please ... Ditch the trade with Europe? We only profit from this. Valery Leontyev's plywood and foam barracks in Miami will be taken away? This is how much he will save on taxes!
  8. +1
    29 July 2020 15: 52
    The author, Zbitnev, managed to confuse and intimidate himself, at the same time to become both Fox Alice and Basilio the cat. There will be neither the first option nor the second. Our economy has adapted to live in a palisade of sanctions. Comparing GDP is bad manners. This and I can do it, and I will draw more. We will simply master what remains of the collapsed West.
  9. 0
    29 July 2020 16: 02
    What nonsense! Nonsense of an alarmist and a hidden liberal.
  10. +2
    29 July 2020 19: 56
    I do not understand, on Topkor that it is so easy and simple, every random person can write anything?
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    2. 0
      30 July 2020 21: 50
      UDE, or else will be! wink
  11. +2
    29 July 2020 20: 45
    Of course, there will be no "new Yalta", since the banana-eggplant revolution in the United States will prevent this. Also, do not forget that the current 44th President of the United States is the last, in addition, there is another prophecy that a president elected in a year ending in 0 will not live to see the end of his presidential term. Everything converges into one explosive mixture and the new Babylon must necessarily fall.
  12. -1
    30 July 2020 06: 37
    Absolutely correct forecast.
    Only here we can talk not about Yalta, but about the mission of General Wolf from one film.
    It's just that too many times there was nothing for it, so the baby was born.
    But this time it was not in vain.
    But this is not the most unpleasant thing, all these biden / embargs, and the most unpleasant thing for the losers is coming from the East.
  13. +3
    30 July 2020 08: 50
    And will the Russian Federation want a new Yalta with the Anglo-Saxons, or will they have to sign another document, such as the one signed by the Germans in Berlin in 1945 ... The Anglo-Saxons crossed the road not only to the Russian Federation, but also to China, and the US allies are not important are more like freeloaders. The same Pakistan, after the Yankees stopped feeding him, quickly changed his shoes in the air and went to China ...
  14. +1
    1 August 2020 02: 42
    If the author is not aware that the USSR had the third and not the second economy in the world already at the beginning of the 80s (after Japan), and taking into account the FRG + GDR - the fourth, what kind of author's "expertise" can be expected in the future?
    Ah, everyone's worried about what will happen when Monsieur Biden walks into the White House? Nothing will happen .... Spell dictate?