Russia makes another U-turn and renounces the status of a regional power

July 28 2020 82

Today we will talk about things that are obvious, but nevertheless incomprehensible to many. Unclear to many on both sides of the curb. Otherwise, there would be no such hysterics, up to and including self-harm, from Father Lukashenko, who suddenly faced the disappointing fact that Russia is no longer going to finance him and his regime. With threats that "right now, I'll take it and go to the West from you!" “Go, dear Alexander Grigorievich, go, they are already waiting for you there. They will gladly destroy the building you have erected. No pity? Has the fate of Poroshenko taught you nothing? But he was not the last dictator of Europe, like you! When you ask back, keep in mind that Rostov is not made of rubber! " And I understand Lukashenka's offense. How to leave loyal good comrades in trouble like that? Something like this, Alexander Grigorievich ... Alas and ah! Not we such, Life is such!

But I understand even better my compatriots (I myself am from the Ukraine, damn it!), Russian soul and heart on both sides of the line of demarcation. Both those and others expected some kind of action from Russia (they are still waiting in Donbass), but they do not understand that there will be no action anymore. The status quo will be frozen, survive as best you can. In this situation, the worst will be for Donbass (now Kedmi about this says), although it is not easy for us to live in a moral occupation either.

Why this happened was briefly and clearly explained by one character whom you know well (now he, however, has the status of ex). He said a capacious phrase, but it explains everything: "There is no money, but you hold on!" This phrase explains the turnaround that happened not so long ago and which almost no one noticed, continuing to groan and cry to Putin: “Putin, come - put things in order!”, Or “Putin, take us for yourself!”, Or, like dad Lukashenko: "Vladimir Vladimirovich, why are you doing this to us?" Below I will answer all these questions.

Bolivar will not stand two

Something similar, only exactly the opposite, we observed in the early 90s, during the collapse of the Union. Then Yeltsin's Russia threw all its overseas allies to their fate and happily surrendered themselves into the arms of the West. In which she almost died. Thanks to Vladimir Vladimirovich, our savior angel, he came on time and saved me. Ah, if the West had known then that this would all end, it would have finished off Putin in the bud, with the hands of Bush Sr., but Yeltsin's successor made a good impression on Bush (Putin's work in the KGB apparently taught a lot). But Cuba, Vietnam, Nicaragua, Laos, Venezuela, then abandoned by the Russian Federation to the mercy of fate, drank their fill from Yeltsin's rashness. The Russian Federation then deliberately ceded the status of a world power. Like, not for Senka's hat - you can't afford to keep it. We then naively hoped to become a part of the West. Peace, friendship, chewing gum Donald. But what is forgivable to ordinary people is completely unforgivable to those in power.

For Yeltsin, this was worse than a crime - it was a mistake! Fatal! Russia surrendered its positions without a fight, in which our enemy happily entrenched. And it took 20 long years to change this status. Putin had to apply a truly Byzantine cunning and resourcefulness for this (Defense Minister Serdyukov alone was worth what? Now he heads PJSC UAC - the largest aircraft building corporation in Europe. He travels for life with flashing lights and uses state security. Do you think - for poor work? Yeah ... how !). Until the last days the West refused to believe that Russia succeeded. But you can't argue against facts. And the unparalleled brilliant campaign of the Russian Aerospace Forces in Syria, and the new Russian weapon, which has no equal, and our successes in space and the Arctic, forced them to come to terms with the fact that Russia is regaining its former influence and the status of a world power with which you want to you want, but you have to reckon. The last hopes for the factor of 2024, that Putin will leave and everything will return to normal, collapsed along with the amendments to the Constitution. Putin is Foreva! And he himself will decide when to leave, and whether to leave at all.

But I can understand the offense of the closest neighbors, former vassals of the Russian Federation. This is a Pyrrhic victory for them. After all, no one explained to them that Putin was curtailing the course he took after coming to power in 2000 to create a new integration space within the former Soviet contour within the EurAsEC (Eurasian Economic Community), which later transformed into the EAEU (Eurasian Economic Union) and CU (Customs Union). As a result, even the supranational union SGRB (the Union State of Russia and Belarus) de facto ordered to live a long time. And there was only one reason for that - the events of 2014 in Ukraine, which the Kremlin could not or did not want to stop. The creation of such a state hostile to the Russian Federation with the help of the West on the borders of the EAEU made such a format hopeless (yes, in fairness, it is worth noting that without Ukraine, even not hostile to the Russian Federation, such a format would still be incomplete). Therefore, we have to state with regret that in this issue Washington has completely outplayed the Kremlin.

And how well it all started. After all, having come to power in 2000, Putin quietly changed Yeltsin's course of integration with the West, which implies a vassal-subordinate status of the Russian Federation to the opposite, with the goal of reviving the former Soviet economic space and restoring the Russian Federation at least in the status of a regional powers. What he honestly said in February 2007 from the rostrum of the Munich conference on policy security. It seemed to us then that the West did not hear him. Or pretended not to hear. But the events of 2014 in Ukraine showed that he heard and heard well. At least, he took all measures to prevent Putin from even having such thoughts. Not that he didn’t think about a multipolar world, and he didn’t even stutter about the status of a regional power. Deal with Ukraine and don't get out of your basement. And everything is probably how it would have been if they had caught anyone else, not Putin. I would have raked it out to the fullest and did not blather again. But Putin once again broke their whole buzz by rewriting the rules of the game, blowing their entire chess table to hell. Instead of raking out in Ukraine, he launched an operation in Syria. You know how it ended.

As a result, the Russian Federation regained its status as a world power, without restoring its regional status. No, Russia has not abandoned plans to create a single integration association within the former Soviet Union, it simply changed the sequence of actions. Now she is going to move not from smaller to larger, but from larger to smaller. We will not persuade someone to sign up with us in the Union, but they will still be in line for the right to get there. Doubt? In vain! This will happen by the right of the mighty, whose protection our future allies will still seek. The status of the world power of the Russian Federation is backed not by economic power (where can we compete with China and the USA!), But by military power. And everyone understood this - both our friends and foes. In this sense, no one can compete with the Russian Federation: neither NATO, nor the United States, neither together nor separately. Russia is number 1 in this matter, at least for the next 20-30 years. And with this factor you want it or not, but everyone has to reckon with. How Putin managed to achieve this is a separate conversation. But he is not going to stop there either, continuing to build up the advantage.

Donbass - my pain and sorrow

But daddy Lukashenka and Donbass are no better off from this. Especially in this regard, I feel sorry for Donbass. I keep in touch with him, and believe me, people there are on the verge of despair. Here's what they wrote to me the other day from Donetsk:

"Yes, we have a crazy house here, in the DPR ... They are doing such things ... The people are already howling specifically, soon there will be no loyalists to the republic at all, people simply hate it ...".

And this is written to me by a woman whose husband was in the immediate circle of the murdered Zakharchenko. The same sentiments are in Makeyevka and in Lugansk (although in the LPR it is more loyal). What could I answer her? I only wrote:

The trouble is that neither you nor we have a way out. Everyone was waiting for reciprocal steps from the Russian Federation, but Putin has completely different plans for Ukraine. He just had to use you. You were not part of his plans from the very beginning. He was going to confine himself only to Crimea, but Girkin and Bezler, misinterpreting the Kremlin's policy, confused all his plans, and your regional elites who fled in 2014 were unable to intercept and channel the righteous protest of the masses against the events on the Maidan, as Kernes did in Kharkov. As a result, we got what we got! After taking over control, Putin cannot leave you, you are now like that suitcase without a handle - it’s hard to carry and it’s a pity to leave. He is not sorry to leave you - but the jingoistic patriots in the Russian Federation will not understand, so they will “bother” you for a long time. Moreover, this is an element of pressure on Ukraine. There have already been similar precedents in history. The British, when they left India, created their own project there - anti-India, called it Pakistan, until now these two (already nuclear!) Powers are fighting among themselves for two states: Jamma and Kashmir, to the delight of the British and the rest of the free world, which has a strong India need not. Our situation is similar - we ourselves can no longer drive the Natsik out, but there is nowhere to wait for help, except for the Russian Federation. And the RF does not calve, it solves its problems, which, in fact, is correct from the point of view of the Director of the RF. Why should he solve our problems? He is not paid for this! He has enough of his own problems!

Whether Putin is doing the right thing or not, concentrating resources on the outer perimeter to the detriment of the inner, only history will judge. Moreover, the West does not allow him to relax, throwing up problems in Transcaucasia (the Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh), then in Khabarovsk. The events in the last time show that we are flesh of flesh one people, and at least anyone can be forced to go to the Maidan if desired (if only there were money! But the West has it!). Whether the Russian jingoistic patriots will forgive Putin for Donbass, further events will show. Winners are not judged! And the fact that Putin intended to win is shown by all his subsequent actions. I will not bring here now the reviving Russian military bases in Cuba, Venezuela, Vietnam, the new bases of the Aerospace Forces and the Navy in Syria, the increasing grouping of troops in the Arctic, remember Libya, where the GDP climbed without any permission from the UN and the local banana government, I I just wanted to draw your attention to the update of the fleet. Moreover, the fleet of the far sea zone. An indicative and demonstrative confirmation of this was the participation of the President of the Russian Federation in the solemn simultaneous laying of 6 pennants of surface and submarine ships of the ocean class, which took place on July 20 in Kerch on the eve of the next Day of the Navy.

Summary

Comrade Eun needed only six missiles, barely able to reach the west coast of the United States, to deploy three American aircraft carrier strike groups at once, led by the aircraft carriers Carl Vinson, Nimitz and Ronald Reagan, and force Donald Invincible to call him "great leader "(and this is right after the words about the" fat shorty ")! And Putin's arguments, perhaps, will be more impressive than Comrade. Eunna, with all the deepest respect to him. But the example of North Korea clearly proves that no economic factor can be compared with the military one. Not one of the most developed economies (and Japan and Germany are clear proofs of this!) Can defend their interests and defend themselves without the presence of an “automatic machine”. And Putin took this into account and made the right conclusions after the era of Yeltsin's timelessness. His “machine gun” is in good working order and in good hands. And we will tighten the economy. If only they didn't put sticks in our wheels.

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Denis Arkhipov

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28 July 2020 11: 09

Putin is Foreva! And he himself will decide when to leave, and whether to leave at all.

He must leave not when he wants to, but when the people decide. And he is already late.
1. Andrey Goncharov
  
  +9
  
  28 July 2020 12: 21
  
  Separate your (tiny) opinion from the opinion of the People. (Tip) ...
2. Volkonsky
  
  +4
  
  28 July 2020 17: 02
  
  Denis, then you yourself will calculate the cons ...
  1. Rashid116
    
    -3
    
    30 July 2020 06: 51
    
    You are yours too ... The advantage is quite small.
    1. Volkonsky
      
      +1
      
      30 July 2020 11: 17
      
      - 10 ... + 2 = only 12, very small!
3. polev66
  
  +1
  
  30 July 2020 04: 47
  
  Oh, "mytutvlast" has appeared ... it is necessary, we will choose for one more term, we will definitely not ask you.
4. Martial Artist
  
  0
  
  2 August 2020 15: 40
  
  Denis, NOBODY will listen to your nonsense ..
  Putin is the People's Hero of Russia and not only of Russia - he RESTORED Russia from the ashes and made it Great again .. Or are you blind and don't see it?
  Even the fact that Putin raised Russia's GDP from $ 200 billion in 1999 (under Yeltsin) to $ 1630 billion in 2018 in absolute terms, that is, 8 times in 18 years, is already HIS unforgettable FEAT for Russia and a Great Achievement for the Russian people.
  I am not even talking about Putin's other SUCCESSES ... therefore, there is NO ONE to replace him in Russia for now, and he will rule Russia until DEATH, if he wants to ..
5. Kuzmich Sibiryakov
  
  +1
  
  3 August 2020 20: 14
  
  While the people (at least the majority) think differently. This is the case both in elections and in voting for amending the Constitution. Positive assessments have been fairly stable all this time. The numbers that agree with him are transparent. We have enough scoundrels, as elsewhere. Nothing, gurgle and cook.
BoBot Robot - Free Thinking Machine

0

28 July 2020 11: 24

Don't give Dad Lou a dough!
King3214

+10

28 July 2020 11: 35

How good.
First, a "goal" is invented for Russia, which has nothing to do with real goals, and then it is explained on the fingers that "Russia has lost" because it has not achieved these goals. gee-gee-gee
The world economic crisis is now entering its destructive stage, which has already exceeded, in some respects, the Great Depression of 1929. The task of any state during a crisis is to minimize losses, reduce all spending programs and unnecessary spending.
Since they have been talking about the crisis for a long time (I first heard about the global crisis at the Rosbalt forum, in 2006, (Rosbalt was still a decent site at that time, it sank below the bottom only later) and on the Adventurer site, from the end 2007. "Adventurer", in my memory, was the first who actively and vividly spoke about the onset of the Global Crisis, bringing this issue up for public discussion. correctly).
From the point of view of preparing for the Global Crisis, all of Russia's actions are exceptionally correct. Therefore, "driving away with a stick" from the Russian Budget of all "non-Russian" countries is not surprising, as well as the fact that Ukraine was removed from the "feeding" in 2014 (which gave Russia a saving of 5-8 billion dollars a year only on subsidies, previously provided to Ukraine), and at the same time replaced the main nomenclature of goods produced in Ukraine, creating jobs in Russia.
As no surprise, in the near future, the removal "from feeding" of all who give Russia less than they take.

Surprising - why so slow!
1. Monster_Fat
  
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  28 July 2020 11: 50
  Another agitation / ode to "zeroed" and another "drowned" for HPP. Well, what about "zeroed out" - "the savior of the country", "the grandmaster of political parties on a global scale" ... Russia makes a "cunning trick with the ears" thanks to the genius of multi-move.
  
  And the truth is that the "gas station" was covered with a copper basin .... and denyuzhki from export bye-bye, and even spent a lot of money on the "gas pipelines". And a beggar (thanks to the "brilliant" policy of the Kremlin gang), the population cannot even be plundered properly ... it means only a U-turn ... only this is where (in the hole, you can't really turn around ... )? Russia now looks like a fly with one wing, which is circling in one place, or like a beetle that has turned over on its back and cannot stand up, uselessly jerking its legs ...
  1. King3214
    
    +4
    
    28 July 2020 12: 05
    
    "Zeroing" is the word marker. You don't have to read the text, standard Russophobic nonsense.
  2. polev66
    
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    30 July 2020 04: 50
    
    Nouname, who's stopping you from coming in 2024 and voting against? Let me guess - the passport of Ukraine?
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2. Valentine
  
  +5
  
  28 July 2020 13: 18
  
  We have not quite coped with the "defense industry", and what is now on the stocks is not yet in the sea-ocean, but we can already show our fist, the whole country is waiting, will not wait for the time when we will stop whining and currying favor with the West, and decide and do their own thing without looking back at him ... Kremlin analysts have their own troubles with the Donbass and the Mediterranean, but I think you first need to bring peace and order to your borders, and only then something there stir up trouble in Syria and Libya, otherwise we are so imperceptible and will grow up for several years as a monster neighbor, a new ukrofaterland.
  1. Sergey Tokarev
    
    -3
    
    28 July 2020 15: 41
    
    The neighbor doesn't have enough brains to become a monster.
    1. Valentine
      
      -1
      
      28 July 2020 16: 11
      
      Well, yes, well, yes, only Germany, which until 1933 had no army at all, had enough brains to conquer all of Europe in 6 years and become the most powerful army in the world.
      1. Sergey Tokarev
        
        -5
        
        28 July 2020 16: 20
        
        And that your grandfather didn't surrender? Would you ride a Bavarian car now?))) Don't compare Tymchuk with Bismarck! And the developers of the FAU with the creators of the Ukrainian tank and mortar Molot. And in general, learn the history of how Germany “conquered” Europe ... not everyone was against it.
        
        Valentine
        
        +7
        
        28 July 2020 17: 07
        
        You ... do not touch my grandfather, he did not lay down his head in the Great Patriotic War.
        
        polev66
        
        -1
        
        30 July 2020 04: 51
        
        In a cache from the NKVD-eshnaya grenade?
        
        Olga Grigorievna
        
        +2
        
        29 July 2020 23: 00
        
        Wai, wai ...... a new term ..... "Ukrainian tank" !!!!!! Helloowu .... EVERYTHING was SOVIET !!!!! There is NOTHING Ukrainian !!! More than 30 years, the so-called. "Ukrainians" only drink ALL THE SOVIET !!!
        
        polev66
        
        -5
        
        30 July 2020 04: 52
        
        We got it with our Union .. the USSR is dead and it will not exist, we live in Russia.
  2. Alex Min
    
    0
    
    28 July 2020 21: 11
    
    “We have not quite coped with the“ defense ”yet” ... I mean, have not completely ruined it yet? How is the Vega-Premier project? Or what about the Be-200 ... and what is the Kamov and Mil unification for? Yes! There are many examples and there is time ... they give! Rostec is "krasava".
  3. Martial Artist
    
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    2 August 2020 15: 57
    
    I do not quite agree with the article .. Because b / Ukraine near the borders of Russia is like a big mountain of American shit, which constantly stinks and does not allow breathing, and Putin will not tolerate it for a long time ..
    At the first opportunity, b / Ukraine will be restored by Putin either as a friendly country for Russia, or its territory will be fully incorporated into the Russian Federation ...
    This may happen this year, or maybe LATER ... Putin will definitely decide when ...
    and he has ALL government services, mechanisms and necessary information for this ..
    Therefore, we can only wish him victory in this matter ..
Igor Pavlovich

-2

28 July 2020 11: 50

... I'm from Ukraine myself, damn it!

... Vladimir Volkonsky

Drive the friends that you once betrayed
Whoever betrayed once will betray you twice.

OMAR KHAYYAM
1. Sergey Tokarev
  
  -4
  
  28 July 2020 15: 42
  
  The scout Putin is also probably aware of the "friends" ...
2. Martial Artist
  
  0
  
  2 August 2020 16: 03
  
  He did not betray - he does not agree with the current Jewish-fascist regime of power in b / Ukraine.
  And most of the population of b / Ukraine (75%) agrees with him, which voted for Zelensky and against Poroshenko (Valtsman) ... however, the people were wrong again, which has already become clear ...
Sergey Latyshev

+3

28 July 2020 11: 55

Uh ... What is this article about?
Does he admit the lawlessness in Donbass? So it was before, more / less.
Draining nearby regions? So there is its own elite, there is no money to buy it.
Far regions - so true, as long as there is chaos, get a foothold, pump money, train troops, test weapons - everything that everyone did, starting from the pharaohs.

Capitalism is in the yard. Under Capitalism, whatever you do, everything can be justified.
So an excuse arrived in time, not bad, but chaotic ...
Jarilo

+3

28 July 2020 12: 01

Putin received permission from the Federation Council to send troops to Ukraine. But after the arrival of an important person from the West, his plans changed dramatically and he withdrew his request. It is impossible for everything to be tied to one person. Man is weak. "Where is his Uri button?" They found this button. And now Putin is playing giveaway with the West.
1. Sergey Tokarev
  
  +1
  
  28 July 2020 15: 31
  
  In Russian to Ukraine. If troops are brought in, then according to the Georgian scenario. They will come in, get fucked in full and come out. And then yourself. There will be no forced feeding for free, do not even dream. Look for a smart and honest president)))
  1. Tatiana Esyunina
    
    +3
    
    28 July 2020 20: 04
    
    Well done. I fully support it.
2. polev66
  
  -4
  
  30 July 2020 04: 55
  
  How do you know what Putin is doing? Who are you?
Bakht

+4

28 July 2020 13: 16

and your regional elites who fled in 2014 were unable to intercept and channel the righteous protest of the masses against the events on the Maidan, as Kernes did in Kharkov.

In the entire article, I was only interested in this phrase.
Do you think that Kernes in Kharkov was able to "intercept and channel" the protest against the Maidan?
1. Valentine
  
  +6
  
  28 July 2020 15: 50
  
  Smog, Bakhtiyar, and as best he could, and his partner in this was Mikhail Dobkin, one was the mayor, the other was the governor, and a candidate for the presidency of Ukraine. When in early April 2014, by order of the Minister of the Ministry of Internal Affairs Avakov, Bandera scumbags from Western Ukraine began to arrive in Kharkov on trains and buses, to teach Kharkovites how to live, all of Kharkov rose up against them. The arrivals were pushed back from the center and driven into some nooks and crannies, where they were reliably surrounded, and the fights were not humorous ... Three days later, Kernes and Dobkin persuaded Kharkiv residents to stop the riots, they seemed to have agreed with the Nazis that they voluntarily disperse to their homes, well, the guys believed Gepe and Dopa, and began to disperse, but ... with the onset of night in Kharkiv, mass arrests by the SBU and the Ministry of Internal Affairs began, and thousands of Kharkiv citizens who participated in the defense of their city were thrown into prisons overnight and the dungeons of the SBU, and all this thanks to both Kernes and Dobkin. And a few days later, the same Dobkin went to Lugansk, which rose up against the coup, and tried to persuade its inhabitants to surrender to the mercy of the authorities, so they booed him there and expelled from Lugansk ... I don't remember exactly the chronology, but it was all true ...
  1. Bakht
    
    +3
    
    28 July 2020 15: 54
    
    It turns out that it was Kernes and Dobkin who crushed the "Russian spring" in Kharkov?
  2. gorenina91
    
    -7
    
    28 July 2020 16: 57
    
    at the beginning of April 2014, by order of the Minister of the Ministry of Internal Affairs Avakov, Bandera thugs from Western Ukraine began to arrive in Kharkiv on trains and buses, to teach Kharkiv residents how to live, all of Kharkiv rose up against them. The arrivals were pushed back from the center and driven into some nooks and crannies, where they were reliably surrounded, and the fights were not funny ..
    
    - How many times have I personally heard and read something like this ...
    -Ah, we arrived by bus ... -Ah, they dispersed everyone ... -Ah, damned Bandera ... -and could not do anything against them ...
    - Yes, damn it ... - industrial Russian Kharkov ... with a population of 1,5 million people ...
    - And suddenly ... - some buses ... some thugs scattered everyone and built everyone ...
    - It’s not worth the price for such almost Russian Kharkovites who "really wanted"; but they just didn't have enough "wishlist" ...
    - But what about the inhabitants of Novorossiya ... - Ukraine moved its troops against them in general ... - But they survived ... and they broke into them great ...
    - And Kharkiv quickly changed the shoes ... - right on the fly ... - And how I began to rivet tanks, weapons, cartridges, shells for the Armed Forces of Ukraine; day and night riveted and riveted so much that with these tanks, cartridges and shells the Armed Forces of Ukraine today can not save ammunition ... - burn, crush, shell schools, kindergartens, hospitals, residential buildings of Novorossiya ...
    - This is how the people of Kharkiv were frightened by the Bandera from Zap, who arrived by bus. Ukraine ...
    1. Valentine
      
      +7
      
      28 July 2020 17: 26
      
      You, Irina, most likely, did not find the "Black Funnels", but I did, and I saw how at night they came for someone, but that was so long ago .... How easy it is for you to talk about this, sitting on your sofa, in peace, satiety and warmth, and just as you sat in those days and nights, when in Kharkov, flooded with all sorts of SBU, "Cobras", "Berkut" and other Ministry of Internal Affairs special units, there were general arrests of those who did not agreed with the illegal seizure of power. Well, come on, you don't understand this ...
      PS And the whole of Europe riveted to fascist Germany and "tanks, weapons, cartridges, shells ...."
      1. gorenina91
        
        -7
        
        28 July 2020 17: 47
        
        most likely, they did not find the "Black Funnels", but I did, and saw how they came for someone at night, but that was so long ago.
        
        - Suddenly, in the Russian rebellious industrial Kharkov, which was determined to fight and was ready to toughly resist the Bandera regime, several dozen (even hundreds) scumbags came and dispersed all Kharkiv residents ... - And these thugs even knew the city of Kharkov ... - which streets and where they lead ... - to the center ... or to the outskirts ... or to a dead end ... - And the Kharkiv residents knew everything ... - this was their city ... - it used to be ... - now something he is lost to them ... forever ...
        - Yes .., Kharkiv residents should have just passed all these thugs so that there would be no wet place left of them ... - Just no wet place left ... - that's how it should have been ...
        
        when in Kharkov, flooded with all sorts of SBU, "Cobras", "Berkut" and other special units of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, there were general arrests of those who did not agree with the illegal seizure of power
        
        - What do you mean ??? Oh really???
        - But there are such cities ... as .... like ... like Donetsk, Lugansk and others ... against which tanks, aviation, and the army of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were moved ... - And about "SBU, Berkut , etc. Ministry of Internal Affairs special units "... - about this personally, I'll just keep silent ...
        - It turns out that only Kharkov was so scared; and the rest for some reason were not scared ...
        - In general ... - Kharkov had not only a rather dissonant name before; and now also ... and it just became clear that there was rotten in this city ... - all this came out ...
        
        Sergey Tokarev
        
        +2
        
        29 July 2020 07: 21
        
        Girkin was not on them with a magic pendel. Without "vacationers" and "north wind" they are empty space there.
  3. Martial Artist
    
    +1
    
    2 August 2020 16: 09
    
    Two Kharkiv Jews Dopa and Hepa leaked ALL Kharkiv residents to banderlog ... and now Kharkiv residents have been enduring in Kharkiv for almost seven years now the Nazis and their ideology are coming out ... this is pure betrayal of Kharkiv residents ..
Bakht

+2

28 July 2020 15: 29

I ask for a comment on this article ...

http://alternatio.org/articles/articles/item/82385-chestnye-glaza-predateley

I don't know who Anatoly Ursida is. There is only information that he is a political scientist. I am only interested in the opinion of Ukrainians about whether the facts are true? Interpretation is a personal matter for everyone. And most importantly - what is the role of Kernes in the defeat of the anti-Maidan in Kharkov?
1. Valentine
  
  +3
  
  28 July 2020 16: 58
  
  Bakhtiyar, hammer in the search engine "Kernes is complicated", and there you will get some answers to your questions. Kharkiv residents called him the Judas of the "Kharkov Spring". Now a lot of things have been cleaned up from that time, because the one who shot at Kernes has not yet been found, and this has already happened after the numerous arrests of Kharkov activists who wanted to defend their city from the Bandera infection, and many of them are no longer in alive, so there was someone to take revenge on him.
  1. Bakht
    
    +5
    
    28 July 2020 18: 03
    
    I roughly know what happened and how. It's just that the article is inaccurate, as I understand it. Therefore, I quoted a quote from an article with a request to clarify. Kernes has always sided with the winner. As the saying goes, "to betray in time is not to betray. This is called to foresee."
    I remember how Kernes promised to break Miroshnichenko's arms and legs (if I remember the name correctly) if the monument to Lenin was demolished. The monument was demolished, so what? ...
    Kernes and Dobkin are the people who crushed the "Russian spring" in Kharkov, did not allow the creation of the KhNR. These are people who very quickly (in a couple of days) went over to Kolomoisky and supported the Maidan.
    Who exactly put a bullet in his stomach is no longer clear. Maybe Bandera, maybe Russian patriots. It's a pity that I survived. And from which side the bullet flew - I don't care.
EMMM

-4

28 July 2020 18: 22

I'm from Ukraine myself, damn it!

Do not curse and you will not be cursed!
Dear sofa expert.

+5

28 July 2020 19: 41

Recently I read one opinion that the reason for the rejection of the Novorossiya project is that most people in the same east of Ukraine (not counting Donetsk and Lugansk) somehow “did not get carried away” with this project, and in one form or another supported a new "independent and independent" Ukraine.
Indeed, even despite the demonstrations and seizure of administrative buildings in large cities in eastern Ukraine, for example, in Kharkov, the project of "Novorossiya" on a large scale still somehow did not work.
That is, in the heads of the Ukrainian people, something still outweighed in favor of the “new Ukraine”.
Moscow quickly realized that the Novorossiya project could only be realized at an unacceptably high price, or that it (in any case, it could be abandoned in full). Which, apparently, is happening.

I do not undertake to vouch for the correctness of this opinion.
It is already subjective because of one very important detail: To date, no one has yet been able to calculate Putin even two moves ahead.

The West unambiguously underestimated the Russian understanding of the zone of Moscow's privileged interests in the so-called "near abroad" and primarily in Ukraine. The lightning-fast return of Crimea came as a complete surprise to the West, as well as to most others, and most likely even in Russia itself.
Nobody thought that Putin would just take and put on the line the peaceful order in Europe in one move.

Therefore, all reasoning translates any discussion on this topic into the section: fortune telling on coffee grounds.
1. Bakht
  
  +4
  
  28 July 2020 20: 48
  
  There is no "fortune-telling on the coffee grounds" here.
  The return of Crimea is a vital thing. Crimea holds the entire Southern NATO flag. Plus the Black Sea. Plus airfields. Crimea is Kaliningrad in the south. The return of Crimea is a purely military necessity.
  The question of Ukraine is a different topic. Russia needs a united, neutral, non-aligned Ukraine within its current borders. Already in April 2014, it was clear that Luhansk and Donetsk would remain part of Ukraine. Reformatting of Ukraine is possible only through the Russians in Ukraine. The division of Ukraine is a geopolitical defeat for Russia. Therefore, we need New Russia as part of a federal Ukraine. Russia will only help with the "North Wind". But reformatting Ukraine is the task of the Ukrainians. Both Russian Ukrainians and Ukrainian.
  That's all the logic. From this and it is necessary to dance.
  ----
  The same goes for Belarus. A neutral non-aligned Belarus is a priority for Russia. As soon as Belarus has soaped itself into NATO, to paraphrase the classic “there will be no more Belarus”. Isn't it clear that Russia has taken a defensive position?
  1. Dear sofa expert.
    
    +2
    
    28 July 2020 20: 56
    
    The return of Crimea is a vital thing.
    
    I did not mean Crimea, in the context of “fortune telling on the coffee grounds”.
    I meant the author's thoughts on:
    
    Both those and others expected some kind of action from Russia (they are still waiting in Donbass), but they do not understand that there will be no action anymore. The status quo will be frozen, survive as best you can. In this situation, Donbass will have the worst (Kedmi is already talking about this), although, believe me, it is not easy for us to live in moral occupation either.
    
    This is not a criticism of the article as a whole. It's my opinion.
    I simply think that it is too early to draw conclusions about the Kremlin's (Putin's) decision regarding Ukraine.
    1. Bakht
      
      +3
      
      28 July 2020 22: 16
      
      I was referring precisely to Putin's decision regarding Ukraine. It was determined in 2008 (the Russia-NATO Council in Bucharest) and was confirmed in April 2014 (the decision to build a bypass railway).
      Ukraine must remain a federal sovereign, non-aligned country within its current borders). Not necessarily friendly, but necessarily neutral.
  2. Dear sofa expert.
    
    +3
    
    28 July 2020 21: 02
    
    Reformatting of Ukraine is possible only through the Russians in Ukraine. The division of Ukraine is a geopolitical defeat for Russia. Therefore, we need New Russia as part of a federal Ukraine.
    
    I agree.
    
    A neutral non-aligned Belarus is a priority for Russia.
    
    I agree, but not quite. I believe that the setting of Russia's state priorities should not make itself dependent on the policies of other states.
    1. Bakht
      
      +5
      
      28 July 2020 22: 20
      
      the setting of state priorities in Russia should not make itself dependent on the policies of other states
      
      Change the meaning of the sentence and everything will fall into place. I would say so.
      
      The policy of the states neighboring Russia must take into account the interests and security of Russia.
      
      This applies to Ukraine, Poland, the Baltic states, Belarus .... and even Azerbaijan. If the policies of these countries do not meet the security interests of Russia, then Russia should in no case take into account their interests. And security too.
      1. Dear sofa expert.
        
        +3
        
        28 July 2020 22: 29
        
        This applies to Ukraine, Poland, the Baltic States, Belarus ...
        
        Of these 4, so far only Belarus is a sovereign state. The rest have “decision-making centers” elsewhere.
        And Azerbaijan, in fact, is no longer "itself", along the way.
        Personally, I am (just kidding!)))))
        Personally, I do not consider all these states in the context of any "neutralities". I have long seen them as a usual "buffer zone" between Russia and the West. Moreover, it is equally necessary for both parties. Moreover, it is not necessary in any other form.
        
        Bakht
        
        +3
        
        28 July 2020 23: 16
        
        I'm not going to differentiate between countries. Decision-making centers are still located in the capitals of these countries. It's another matter where they look, these capitals.
        Basically, we are talking about the same thing. The neutrality of these countries is Russia's main priority. And Western Europe. But it is the Western one. That is, the old NATO members. But NATO's center of gravity is shifting to Eastern Europe. Lacking the economic weight of heavyweights, Europe's limitrophes are trying to compensate for their loyalty to the States. Hence, Russophobia and aggressiveness.
        The world is changing too fast. Let's see how everyone will get out of the crisis.
        
        Dear sofa expert.
        
        +2
        
        28 July 2020 23: 46
        
        But NATO's center of gravity is shifting to Eastern Europe.
        
        To begin with, I would suggest forgetting NATO.) It seems to me that this word (or letter combination - whatever you like) exists only formally, and exclusively under the pressure of the "decision-making center")
        A priori no single block already exists. This is a "paper tiger". The shift to the east is handled exclusively by the same "center ..." in a single impulse.
        Yes, for Western Europe this whole Eastern circus is their problem area.
        They live well, and lately they have been trying to avoid the Americans with their ambitions as much as they can. Yes, the Americans are still strong, and they know how to put pressure on the weak points, and so far they are doing it.
        But the Europeans are far from stupid, they understand the seriousness of the situation, and will not allow themselves to be pushed into a direct conflict with Russia.
        The maximum that can be is "letting off steam". For this and buffer zones.
        
        The crisis is definitely serious. How they will come out of it (this, by the way, concerns everyone) - we'll see.
Tatiana Esyunina

+3

28 July 2020 19: 51

I liked the article very much. Now there are not many of them on the Internet. Many thanks.
Vasily Terkin_3

0

28 July 2020 21: 01

Oh, what a text, what kind of drooling hurray-patriot ..... about hurray-patriots. I read to the brilliant campaign in Syria and realized that I could not read this nonsense further. Because it will be brilliant only if the author's ass is scratched properly and sent there to the border of Idlib, but at the hour of prayer, turn against the Sun ... then it will shine! And so the mediocre military presence and puffing up the cheeks in front of NATO. Regarding the bookmarking of ships, these undercruisers will become obsolete even before the end of their construction. If anything, then Comrade Eun was smart enough to solve the most pressing and most painful problem by the forces of the whole nation at any cost, without getting into other people's showdowns and military conflicts on the side. It seems that this did not happen for Vova. As for the sticks in the wheels, since 2014, the sanctions have inserted the drawbar from the cart into the very place so that the country cannot breathe, what can we talk about, what cunning plan ???? Serdyukov Foreva !!!! In the psychiatric hospital, places are free, the orderlies are clearly underperforming, as Dzerzhinsky said.
1. Dear sofa expert.
  
  +4
  
  28 July 2020 21: 09
  
  Oh, what the text, what the drooling of a hurray-patriot ...
  
  Actually, your text is exactly - some emotions. There are many words, little is said.
  In Syria, Russia clearly has its own state interests. It's a shame you haven't seen them yet.
  Comrade Eun, if he had enough intelligence for something, was to threaten with a dozen artillery salvoes (out of 1500 guns on the border with the South Caucasus) to destroy the 20 millionth Seoul along with the 30 thousandth American base. And all the wisdom.
bear040

+3

28 July 2020 22: 42

If, after the completion of the SP-2, the Kremlin does not accept Donbass into the Russian Federation, it will be a big mistake. And before trying to put things in order in Libya, it would not hurt to put things in order in the Russian Federation itself and at its borders, otherwise even the cellular communication works very badly, one false advertisement on TV. The quality of the products leaves much to be desired and almost nothing is done to ensure that any surrogate does not end up on store shelves. There is a certain shortage of drugs, which is unacceptable, and their prices could be more affordable for the population.
Nikolaevich I

0

28 July 2020 23: 46

Well, of course, Russia is giving up the status of a "regional power"! She is a "superpower" ... as Putin himself and from his "team" declared!
Bitter

+1

29 July 2020 00: 51

renounces regional power status

And where now? In purely agricultural, resource extraction with a consumer bias, or military-industrial with an export focus?

... after the era of Yeltsin's timelessness. His "machine" is in good working order ...

The golden nineties are suddenly called timelessness, more than strange, but what about the Yeltsin Center then? General Vlasov's surname was polished on the monument, and he, compared to Yeltsin, is a kid with trousers with straps. But if so, maybe it is more effective to open a palace of culture or a boarding house for the treatment of alcoholics there?
Perhaps Yeltsin's timelessness has not ended, it has simply taken on more civilized forms and it has become more efficient to work for export and for the "family."
And that now Putin, will the Russian economy, at the gunpoint of the "machine gun", become the leaders of the world economy, or will he aim his "machine gun" at other economies so that they do not "interfere"?
Maybe it’s not worth bawling, but simply and without advertising, like the Chinese, to work for another 25 years, and then we will see "xy from xy".
Cyril

-2

29 July 2020 01: 18

and our successes in space

Which ones?

he started an operation in Syria. You know how it ended.

And how did it end? Although no, not so - is it already over?

Not one of the most developed economies (and Japan and Germany are clear proofs of this!) Can defend their interests and defend themselves without the presence of an “automaton”.

Read sometime at your leisure how Japan and Germany have taken over the American market for cars and home electronics without a gun. They were so captured that the Americans had to take measures at the level of Congress to protect their manufacturers.

As for Comrade Eun, if the United States really decides to fight against North Korea, they will.
Jozhik_2

-6

29 July 2020 01: 51

A good name is Volkonsky. It is a pity that the cheerful one is wearing it ...
Ura Karbovnichiy

+3

29 July 2020 08: 14

Sadly, everything is logical. First the Shield and the Sword.
steelmaker

-1

29 July 2020 08: 39

Reading is disgusting! This is no longer toadying, this is a specific deflection.

... but in natural selection,
Putin is better anyway!

Well, now, to become "your own bourgeois", a journalist must necessarily say something nasty about the Khabarovsk people.

... then in Khabarovsk. Events for the last time show that we are flesh of flesh one people, and at least anyone can be forced to go to the Maidan (if only there was money! But the West has it!)

Khabarovsk residents, it turns out, are protesting for money !? The author is not worthy of respect !!!!
1. The comment was deleted.
It does not matter

+1

29 July 2020 09: 07

Quote: steel maker
Reading is disgusting! This is no longer toadying, this is a specific deflection.

... but in natural selection,
Putin is better anyway!

Well, now, to become "your own bourgeois", a journalist must necessarily say something nasty about the Khabarovsk people.

... then in Khabarovsk. Events for the last time show that we are flesh of flesh one people, and at least anyone can be forced to go to the Maidan (if only there was money! But the West has it!)

Khabarovsk residents, it turns out, are protesting for money !? The author is not worthy of respect !!!!

1800 comments, gives advice on all issues. Oh well.
Tektor

+2

29 July 2020 11: 31

It seems that the author is pretending to be a jerk. The events in Ukraine were a trap for the Russian Federation, into which we had to fall and waste all resources. In such a scenario, the development of Russia would be put an end to, because resources would have to be spent, as in Afghanistan. Syria would not have happened in 15 year, and there would not have been left for Poseidons, Daggers, Vanguards with Zircons and Peresvet. How can you not see this ??? Do you understand that we would be stuck at the technical level of 2014 with a decreasing fleet and not having the opportunity to leap towards dominance? The decision to outplay the West on the economic front by raising the technical level of the army to the best world level, and sometimes even higher, is the strategic move that will allow us to become world leaders in 2022.
Yevgeny Mikhailov

+2

29 July 2020 13: 05

Too many positives. What wonderful "rose-colored glasses" the author has!
And now we are looking at the exchange rate of the ruble against the dollar. Compare with the current hryvnia exchange rate. Compare with the past, with the pre-war exchange rate of the Ukrainian hryvnia. And-and-and ... EVERYTHING! The blissful "picture" drawn by the author, tuskn e t.
Who is planning? What are the "successes"? Who in Syria "showed" what and to whom? Israel, yes, has shown that it is not interested in the opinion of the dependent and weak RK ("Capitalist Russia"). He showed what the air defense is worth, which is armed and supervised by the Republic of Kazakhstan.
By the way, Syria is an excellent example of the stupid foreign policy of the stupid state of the Republic of Kazakhstan. Nothing was decided in Syria, they climbed into Libya. Input of troops - withdrawal of troops - input of troops ... Of course, solemnly.
... The army of the Republic of Kazakhstan is clearly "slowing down". For years, small and medium-sized UAVs have been in the sky both "there" and "here", and in the Armed Forces of the Republic of Kazakhstan there was no protection against them.
Little Syria could not be protected from air attacks for YEARS. Greater Russia will be shut down easily?
A clear indicator of "success" is the size of the yacht of one well-known "oligarch" from the Republic of Kazakhstan. The vessel is longer than the largest warship built in this "kingdom-state". It is in this "achievement" - all of it, "Capitalist Russia".
... There will also be such "Arctic and Antarctic" ... That it will be possible to lose "rose-colored glasses" forever.
1. kot711
  
  +2
  
  29 July 2020 13: 21
  
  That it will be possible to lose "rose-colored glasses" forever. Do not interfere with dreaming, a person lives on TV, and everything is fine there.
fss

-3

29 July 2020 14: 05

... I myself am from Ukraine, damn it! ...

What can a mankurt say, who speaks so about his homeland? And what can be the attitude towards him, except contempt?
1. Volkonsky
  
  +5
  
  29 July 2020 16: 52
  
  My Motherland is the USSR. Ukraine, after what it did to its citizens, does not exist for me!
Polente the Wanderer

+1

29 July 2020 21: 19

I would like to improve the economy as soon as possible until all production collapses, otherwise we survive for 30 years by selling off the "national treasure" (oil, gas and other natural resources).
Kamerunec

-1

29 July 2020 22: 05

Power, damn it, in which you need to get a salary, running around the courts. Shame on the TruPin system.
LeeSeeTsin

+2

29 July 2020 23: 11

Silly custom article. And what fee did the regime lover get? That's the question.
So:

Today we will talk about things that are obvious, but nevertheless incomprehensible to many.

It is both obvious and understandable to many. Even Khabarovsk.

... that Russia is no longer going to fund him and his regime.

And we will continue to finance the Western economies. Do you happen to know?

Alas and ah! Not we such, Life is such!

Life is really not honey in modern Russia. But the people chosen by the people control the ship. Have we elected those? Where are we going?

(I'm from Ukraine myself, damn it!)

Lying. A person born there will never say that. I will try to continue the thought "damn it! Ilya Ilf and Misha Bulgakov. Academician Amosov (cardiologist) and Academician Filatov (oculist). Cursed academician Paton, who invented welding in space. Together with everyone else, Leonid Bykov and cosmonaut Beregovoy are cursed. , and General Rybalko, and pioneer Valya Kotik, who fought with the Nazis.The author clearly confused the PEOPLE OF UKRAINE and the pro-Western - Catholic element that muddies the waters.

Unbeknownst to many, Putin quietly changed Yeltsin's course of integration with the West.

He did not change anything. On the contrary, I wanted to "quietly" to Europe "from Lisbon to Vladivostok." Only they didn’t wait for us there and they sent us politely. And then Munich 2007 was born.

one character, ... He said a capacious phrase, but she explains everything: "There is no money, but you hold on!"

He also added "All the best to you." From memory, these words were spoken in the month of May, in the Crimea. And three months later, in Moscow, at the apartment of Colonel Zakharchenko, 9 billion "materialized". The character doesn't know. What's going on under his nose. And if you coward the generals, how many they have in their apartments. There is money, but not for the Russian people. I am already silent for the withdrawal of money from the Country. Officially, in the open press, the amount of 713 billion dollars is called for 20 years. Not more than a trillion officially. Dollars. And the pension reform lacks only one billion rubles.

... Defense Minister Serdyukov alone was worth what?

Here one has to ask only for the collapse of the GRU. And the helicopters will be in the same place as the GRU. Give him time.

The last hopes for the factor of 2024, that Putin will leave and everything will return to normal, collapsed along with the amendments to the Constitution. Putin is Foreva! And he himself will decide when to leave, and whether to leave at all.

All these zeros and other changes in the Constitution are for simpletons, with or without education. The main pitfall is "Not jurisdictional". Who will be responsible for the transfer of the undersea shelf to Norway in 2010. Allegedly, the border was leveled.

By signing an agreement on delimitation on Norwegian terms, Russia not only lost about 80 thousand square meters. km, but also endangered Russian fishing in the western regions of the Barents Sea.

In these waters, we caught 60% of the commercial fish in the northern seas. Looks like we don't need fish. For minerals I will simply keep quiet. Who authorized the "ex" to transfer the territory? Russian people? By the way, the territory of the annexed Crimea is only 27 sq. km.

The status of the world power of the Russian Federation is backed not by economic power (where can we compete with China and the USA!), But by military power.

Western experts (not fools and talkers of politicians, but experts), reckon our army as an army of one battle. And this has its own reason and meaning. We have absolutely no engineering support for our troops. On the basis of the Academy of Engineering, HSE is now a breeding ground for sabotage. And what is engineering support, remember the tank battle at Prokhorovka. The Germans hit our cars twice as many. But half of it was restored overnight, and the Nazis had nothing to oppose. Now we are only trying to rebuild the engineering troops. But with such an economy and "no money, but you hold on" it will be endless.
And so on throughout the article. Some laudatory praises, little in line with the real state of affairs. This means that the pro-government media are strong, since they squeeze such an order. With which I congratulate you all. And don't get sick during this difficult time. Help is nowhere to be found.
1. IT Shark
  
  0
  
  30 July 2020 07: 02
  
  Who have you got it? Ukraine? And why on earth do we have engineering support for the troops ???
2. Lawyer
  
  -2
  
  30 July 2020 07: 50
  
  I completely agree with everything.
  Only you cannot convince them, you cannot tell them this on PutV.
  And the Russian people trust the loudspeaker, the newspaper Pravda, Kiselev's program, and their neighbor, a contract soldier with the rank of sergeant.
IT Shark

+1

30 July 2020 07: 01

And on what basis were the conclusions drawn that Russia used the Donbass? Has Putin personally told? What is Volkonsky's access level? I know one thing for sure: people who know about this for sure hint at a slightly different scenario. And many actions suggest otherwise.
Lawyer

-1

30 July 2020 07: 44

Why is the Russian Federation so nervous - well, let it go.
The Russians will remove the extra 15 million parasites from the budget of their population.
And to the respected author, I would like to note that belonging to the great powers is determined not by the "successes of the aerospace forces" in the middle of nowhere in the absence of air defense at the enemy, but by the high level of development of the economy, medicine, education, and even, as it is. the author may not seem strange - the ability to open a criminal case against the current head of state.
On all these points, my Israel is a world power, and the country of the respected author is ... uh ... not quite yet. :)
But nothing!
A new generation is growing!
They will make the Russian Federation a world power.
If you first learn to make even nails yourself, without secret Chinese technologies.
Vitaly Lozovich

+2

30 July 2020 14: 22

I agree with the author Volkonsky in everything, only one remark - it is not appropriate for a professional journalist to speak in the language of meager opposition figures. Medvedev didn’t say such words, how much can you spend too much time? .. They came up with it themselves, now you are flaunting. Here's the exact printout of the conversation: "No money, but you're holding on!"

A voice from the crowd: m - They are calculating indexing incorrectly ... what is eight thousand?
Medvedev: - We will take indexation all over the country, we cannot do it in one place.
A voice from the crowd: - Where is she. is this indexing?
Medvedev: - It is nowhere to be found, we did not accept it at all. There is simply no money. If we find money, we will do indexation. You hold on here, all the best to you ...

Are you ashamed of your ignorance now?
jack clubs

-1

30 July 2020 22: 05

Has Russia already become a banana republic for so many U-turns over the past couple of decades? Think what you write.
All these "reversals" are only in the imagination of experts. And Misha Gorbachev's course is and continues. Simply more competently and with a more guaranteed result. Although even here in the last 7-8 years there have been continuous shoals. But this does not cancel, but only confirms the continuity of our course.
Elena Ushkova

+2

31 July 2020 10: 04

About the fact that Donbass Putin does not mind, I personally greatly jarred. Knowing the GDP. If it hadn't been a pity, Ukraine had been torn to pieces for a long time and ... (well, the editor doesn't let the United States be called by his name)) gave it up. Putin acts as much as possible, and this is how he always explained it. As for the rest .... Putin is not building the USSR, he is building the Russian Empire. The Russian authorities are no longer going to whip and feed all these republics at the expense of the Russian people without any guarantees. The main goal of the policy was announced - the preservation of the Russian people. Recovery is still very far away, but we have a lot of our Russian regions, which are subsidized with a lot of problems. You step wide and tear your pants. Make friends, help, trade - yes. But not to contain, as Russia did during the Soviet era at the expense of the Russian population. There will be no Russian big core, there will be nothing, and Putin understands this perfectly. Russia will not exist without the Russian people. And empire is a condition for the survival of Russia. That's all. But an empire of a different type, built on fair partnership and mutual respect.
1. Vladimir Tuzakov
  
  +1
  
  2 August 2020 14: 04
  
  Elena, what are you talking about, what kind of Russian people are you talking about, that beyond the hill, so yes, about him all the anxiety and attempts to appease, here for the people in the Russian Federation there are no guarantees, only rot, according to Prime Minister Medvedev: there is no money (you), but you hold on ... Distinguish, everything is for flies, but nothing for cutlets in today's RF.
  1. Elena Ushkova
    
    0
    
    5 November 2020 16: 50
    
    I'm not interested in your Navalnovsky stamps from the training manual
    1. Vladimir Tuzakov
      
      0
      
      6 November 2020 13: 17
      
      Note: It doesn't seem to you that V. Putin is just a screen for plundering Russia and spreading rot on the citizens of the Russian Federation. Not a single presidential decree IS FULFILLED, therefore, there is NEVER a report on what has been done as it should be - for a year, for the term of the presidency, only new promises on top of old ones that have not been fully fulfilled ... most of all fell ...
      1. Elena Ushkova
        
        0
        
        8 November 2020 16: 12
        
        No, I don't think so. And you shouldn't write me your stamps. I am a person with a wide outlook, and I know history. Save your campaigning for stupid hamsters.