The expert explained in which case Russia will have "nuclear trains"

July 25 2020 59

Military expert and editor-in-chief of the monthly magazine "National Defense" Igor Korotchenko in an interview with the portal "NewInform" told in what case Russia will have "nuclear trains".

Korotchenko noted that the Strategic Missile Forces may acquire the Barguzin BZHRK or something similar if the foreign policy situation for the country becomes more complicated. He explained that Russia had no need for such a complex before.

Earlier (in 2017 - ed.) It was adopted political the solution is not to deploy a missile system, but to focus on the implementation of projects of a different plan

- the expert specified.

However, Washington is not yet going to renew the agreement on the strategic offensive arms of the two countries (START-3). Therefore, Moscow may reconsider its decision.

If the Americans begin to deploy their medium-range and shorter-range missiles on the territory of NATO member countries, they will reduce the strike time on Russian territory to 5-6 minutes from the moment of launch

- The expert added.

According to Korotchenko, the main feature of the BZHRK is the difficulty of identifying it for the enemy. It practically does not differ from ordinary trains that run across the vast territory of Russia.

The expert stressed that the BZHRK is a deterrent weapon, i.e. potential retaliation. Therefore, in the event of an attack, a retaliatory strike is guaranteed. The presence of such an instrument in the arsenal of the Strategic Missile Forces will only strengthen the country's defense capability. At the same time, whether or not Russia has a BZHRK, depends largely on the behavior of the United States.

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Sergey Tokarev

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25 July 2020 20: 18

A nuclear train can be created from any commodity ... there are weapons that fit in ordinary containers. So, nuclear weapons can be in Kamaz, carrying watermelons, and in a dry cargo ship, etc., but the opinion of an expert of Ukrainian origin, of course, is very interesting)))
1. 123
  
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  25 July 2020 20: 43
  
  a nuclear train can be created from any commodity ...
  
  The Americans failed in their time. Apparently, everything is not so simple.
  
  there are weapons that fit in conventional containers. So, nuclear weapons can be in Kamaz, carrying watermelons, and in a dry cargo ship, etc.
  
  As far as I remember, Club-K with a nuclear warhead was not made.
  
  but the opinion of an expert of Ukrainian origin is, of course, very interesting)))
  
  And what does it have to do with Ukraine?
  
  https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%
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  1. Sergey Tokarev
    
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    25 July 2020 20: 54
    
    It is not difficult to change the warhead if desired. There are also smaller ammunition with nuclear filling. Origin by blood, not by registration. Even if he was born in Mukhoska even in the fifth generation ... intellectual abilities will not become higher from this. He says only the obvious things that everyone knows. Like the same Pogrebinsky. The main thing is to say loudly, with a smart look and for the importance of blowing bubbles.
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      25 July 2020 21: 35
      
      Origin by blood and not by registration. Even if he was born in Mukhoska even in the fifth generation ... intellectual abilities will not be higher from this.
      
      Maybe you will also measure the skull?
      1. Sergey Tokarev
        
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        25 July 2020 21: 41
        
        Have already measured ... they belong to the Turks. They have been with Russia since the 17th century. Have they given many scientists during this time? It seems like none. And the population is larger than that of Germany. Where are their Bismarcks and Lomonosovs? All that remains is to simplify education in Russia so that Ukrainians can keep up. As in the USA they did with regard to blacks The whole country has degraded.
        
        123
        
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        25 July 2020 21: 46
        
        Do you think that the level of intelligence depends on the surname? You probably have a "correct" surname, answer one question. Let's say Club-K flies at the same range as Caliber. Do you think Trump will be very upset to learn that missiles with a range of 2 km are rolling on the Russian railway?
        
        Sergey Tokarev
        
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        25 July 2020 21: 53
        
        Well, provide someone with an increased level of intelligence from their tribe !!! Weak? As you provide, I will count differently! In the meantime, they only sleep well and jump high. Trump will be upset to learn that in any port, on any ship and truck, these missiles can be found. You can give me a lift.
        
        123
        
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        25 July 2020 22: 02
        
        Well, provide someone with an increased level of intelligence from their tribe !!! Weak? As you provide, I will count differently! In the meantime, they only sleep well and jump high.
        
        I will not even answer, I am not used to judging people by the endings of surnames.
        I also can't wait for an answer from you? Surely studying the map of the railroad in the Atlantic?
        
        Sergey Tokarev
        
        -6
        
        25 July 2020 22: 07
        
        The train is for defense, not for attack. And for defense, there are other systems that will respond with a guarantee, even if there is no one alive in Russia. The meaning of the train is stealth and maneuverability. There are more modern ways for stealth and maneuverability. The last century is your armored train.
        
        123
        
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        25 July 2020 22: 12
        
        For what defense? Will there be air defense?
        
        systems that are guaranteed to respond
        
        Who are you planning to answer with such a range? Italy or Kazakhstan?
        
        Sergey Tokarev
        
        -5
        
        25 July 2020 22: 15
        
        The container can stand in Canada and South America. "Perimeter" and without trains with a return line will figure it out.
        
        123
        
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        25 July 2020 22: 20
        
        Really stoned?)))))))))) The container can stand in Canada and South America. "Perimeter" and without trains with a return line will figure it out.
        
        Why stoned? Just curious.
        The idea of sending a container with a nuclear warhead inside to Canada is simply wonderful.
        
        Sergey Tokarev
        
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        25 July 2020 22: 21
        
        Does it say there is a warhead? Maybe this is a containerized diesel substation for the embassy of some banana republic in Canada. Or it will just stop at the port. With a cargo of Far Eastern crabs ... Do you think Putin is dumber than the stolen of Khrushchev, who deployed missiles in Cuba?
        
        123
        
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        25 July 2020 22: 29
        
        it says that there is a warhead? Maybe this is a containerized diesel substation for the embassy of some banana republic in Canada. Or it will just stop at the port.
        
        Thank you, I explained everything clearly. However, there may be some problems at customs. This is how it works with us.
        
        http://vfrta.customs.ru/vfrta/images/stories/journal_2020-2_01gorchakov.pdf
        
        Do you think Canadians let everything go without control? In addition, a diesel generator from Russia will certainly not arouse suspicion.
        You can't buy one on the spot, right?
        
        Dear sofa expert.
        
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        25 July 2020 22: 26
        
        the meaning of the train is stealth and maneuverability. There are more modern ways for stealth and maneuverability. The last century is your armored train.
        
        Don't say what you don't understand. Not only is such a train mobile and optically well disguised, it can also be protected by driving it into one of the many tunnels. For example, under the Ural Mountains, but you never know the mountains in vast Russia?
        
        Sergey Tokarev
        
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        25 July 2020 22: 33
        
        Well, they drove it, so what? We got out of the tunnel, saw how the "perimeter" started up the otvetku and hid back?))) This train is a drop in the ocean.
        
        Dear sofa expert.
        
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        25 July 2020 22: 18
        
        Do you even understand the difference between the Strategic Missile Forces and the tactical missile "Caliber" (Club-K)?
        
        Sergey Tokarev
        
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        25 July 2020 22: 28
        
        The article is not about this, but about the mobility of the train ... the same problems can be solved in other ways. A couple of missiles with hundreds of other warheads won't change anything.
        
        Dear sofa expert.
        
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        25 July 2020 22: 35
        
        article is not about that
        
        The article is just about that.
        
        Korotchenko noted that the Strategic Missile Forces may acquire the Barguzin BZHRK
        
        If you knew that the Strategic Missile Forces are the Strategic Missile Forces, you would not suggest putting the Strategic Missile into a 20 or even 40 foot container.
        Only a tactical missile of the Caliber type will fit there.
        So I asked, do you understand the difference between tactical and strategic weapons?
        
        Sergey Tokarev
        
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        25 July 2020 22: 37
        
        What is the value of the train? And Korotchenko can shove anything he wants. Only there is no sense in it. No amount of air defense will shoot down hundreds of MIRVed missiles. You can also drive the "Poplar" into the cave.
        
        Dear sofa expert.
        
        +3
        
        25 July 2020 22: 43
        
        You have started a stupid and unnecessary argument. I suggest you stop at this.
        
        Sergey Tokarev
        
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        25 July 2020 22: 48
        
        It is foolish to start another branch of the military for the sake of one missile. Well, since the Ukrainian said that it is necessary, then it is necessary ...)))
        
        Dear sofa expert.
        
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        25 July 2020 22: 59
        
        The advantages of the Combat Railway Missile Complex (BZHRK) are obvious.
        
        The train can travel long distances, avoiding impacts on previously known coordinates. During the day, the BZHRK train could cover a distance of over 1000 km.
        
        Outwardly, even an experienced railroad worker from 50 meters could not distinguish these cars from ordinary ones, and none of the civilians could get closer.
        
        The rocket train passed through busy cities only at night, at the station it was met only by a few KGB officers, who also did not know where the train was going.
        
        Spotting such a train from a satellite is an almost impossible task.
        
        https://ardexpert.ru/article/6668
        
        Here, if you're really interested, read the article. There are answers to all your doubts.
        
        Sergey Tokarev
        
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        25 July 2020 23: 02
        
        The submarine and the perimeter system can do the same. And the train, which is not allowed for civilians, will attract attention. Photos with coordinates will appear immediately.
        
        Dear sofa expert.
        
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        25 July 2020 23: 14
        
        Everything has its strengths and weaknesses. The submarine is a dangerous weapon, but it is always, if not in strangers, then in neutral waters. At a great distance, it is difficult to contact her at the right time. She can be discovered and destroyed.
        
        BZHRK is located on its territory, it is disguised as a civilian object, it can get lost at marshalling yards, branched paths, it is easy to hide it in tunnels. There is always a stable connection with him. He can stand for years on some spare dead end in a tunnel under the mountain, and if necessary, roll out for five minutes, shoot a rocket, and re-enter the tunnel. Well, you can't even compare the cost of a nuclear submarine with the maintenance and crew, with the train.
        
        As for the "perimeter system", this is not a weapon, but a complex of automatic control of a massive retaliatory nuclear strike.
        
        Designed for guaranteed delivery of combat orders from the highest levels of command (General Staff of the Armed Forces, Directorate of the Strategic Missile Forces) to command posts and individual launchers of strategic missiles on alert, in the event of an emergency when communication lines may be damaged.
        
        Wiki
        
        Sergey Tokarev
        
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        25 July 2020 23: 22
        
        A heavily guarded civilian facility? The 80s are long gone, and there is no point in rolling back in the event of a nuclear war. Russia will not be the first to shoot.
        
        Dear sofa expert.
        
        +1
        
        26 July 2020 13: 36
        
        there is no point in rolling back in the event of a nuclear war.
        
        Why not? Reload PU, for example. Then leave again for 5 minutes.
        
        Sergey Tokarev
        
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        26 July 2020 13: 40
        
        Shoot the dead a second time to avenge your dead and die from radiation? The war happened, the perimeter was shot ... what's the point of reloading? Although, why should be surprised from the fans of Ukrainian experts.
        
        Dear sofa expert.
        
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        26 July 2020 13: 44
        
        shoot the dead a second time
        
        You will have time to shoot five times before the first missile reaches the target. And not the fact that everyone will fly.
        
        Sergey Tokarev
        
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        26 July 2020 13: 44
        
        Hundreds of them will fly in both directions without this wunderwafele. Moreover, the United States, as such, does not have air defense.
        
        Dear sofa expert.
        
        +1
        
        26 July 2020 13: 46
        
        hundreds of them will fly in both directions without this wunderwafele.
        
        Yes, but with this one it is even more reliable. And if you abandon all options, then there will be nothing to fly at all.
        
        Sergey Tokarev
        
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        26 July 2020 13: 51
        
        What options were discarded? Created invulnerable Poseidon, Vanguard. There are no trains and there is nothing to refuse. This is just a Ukrainian fantasy about an armored train ... Russia does not have hundreds of charges and their delivery vehicles? Enough to destroy the planet several times.
        
        Dear sofa expert.
        
        +3
        
        26 July 2020 14: 11
        
        what options did you discard?
        
        Many were refused. If Yeltsin had remained at the helm for another couple of years, the Strategic Missile Forces in Russia would no longer have a word at all.
        
        Dear sofa expert.
        
        +2
        
        26 July 2020 13: 57
        
        hundreds of them will fly in both directions without this wunderwafele. Moreover, the United States, as such, does not have air defense.
        
        By the way, this is the whole point of creating systems that cannot be destroyed with the first massive strike. As you rightly say, the United States does not have sufficient air defense to defend its territory, so the stake is placed precisely on the initial disarming strike in order to guarantee itself against a retaliatory strike. The creation by Russia of such invulnerable systems of retaliation breaks the entire strategy of the Americans, who are not ready to suffer huge losses. And with this it reduces the very possibility of a global war to a minimum. This is the whole point of a weapon of deterrence.
        
        Sergey Tokarev
        
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        26 July 2020 14: 01
        
        Russia will not be the first to strike ... it's out of the realm of fantasy coming out. The first disarming blow?))) And the time for delivery? The answer will go before hitting the target. The dead don't care about the results of the initial strike.
        
        Dear sofa expert.
        
        +1
        
        26 July 2020 14: 07
        
        Russia will not be the first to strike ..
        
        Of course it won't. I didn’t claim it.
        It is the Americans who are hatching a plan to deliver such a blow.
        
        The first disarming blow?))) And the time for delivery?
        
        What do you think the Americans are doing, methodically placing their missile defense systems along the perimeter of Russia?
        Here is an article about this as well.
        
        If the Americans begin to deploy their medium-range and shorter-range missiles on the territory of NATO member countries, they will reduce the strike time on Russian territory to 5-6 minutes from the moment of launch.
        
        By the way, have you read it at all?)
        
        Sergey Tokarev
        
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        26 July 2020 14: 12
        
        It was necessary to read my comments more attentively. The Ukrainian says what everyone knows ... the Americans tried to build their base in Crimea in Ochakovo even before 2014 ... Who was going to fire ballistic missiles at? Poles, from whose territory the launch will be made, or owners from across the ocean?
        
        Dear sofa expert.
        
        +1
        
        26 July 2020 14: 22
        
        who is going to fire ballistic missiles? Poles, from whose territory the launch will be made, or owners from across the ocean?
        
        Of course, not the Poles will be bombarded with strategic nuclear weapons. There will be enough tactical. The "decision-making centers" will be fired upon.
        
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        Sergey Tokarev
        
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        26 July 2020 15: 06
        
        Igor Korotchenko gave the army 12 years of his life. He served in the Air Force repair shop, ensured the security of communications at the General Staff. He did not have enough stars from the sky - apparently, the stars on his shoulder straps were more important to him. A sharp turn in the life of Lieutenant Colonel Korotchenko happened in 1994.
        
        The officer was dismissed from the army under the defamatory article 49 of the Federal Law "On military duty and military service" as a soldier who ceased to "meet the requirements established by law for him." At one reminder of this fact, Korotchenko begins a real hysteria, which the whole country witnessed during the debates before the elections to the State Duma in 2016 (he lost them to Gennady Onishchenko). Oleg Mitvol forged an opponent - Korotchenko started yelling at the leader of the Greens, called him a "traitor to the Motherland" and threatened to use NATO machine guns.
        
        Why was the officer shown the door? According to his opponents, he did it: he cheated with the rations of his colleagues, scribbled denunciations, for which he allegedly was repeatedly beaten. However, the newspaper "Military Industrial Courier" (from where Korotchenko was also expelled with a scandal) failed to prove this information in court. If there were any bruises, they healed long ago, so I had to give a refutation.
        In the same 1994, Korotchenko got a job at Nezavisimaya Gazeta. They say that the newly minted military commander found an approach to the then media owner Boris Berezovsky and, taking advantage of his proximity to the body, wove intrigues against the chief editor. They also blame Korotchenko for writing custom-made articles (allegedly from there the nickname Mr. Thousand Dollars went), but this is still behind the scenes conversations. Was it or not? Vitaly Tretyakov knows this for sure. But the former head of Nezavisimaya, just after hearing the name of the ex-employee from us, flatly refused to talk about him.
        
        After NG, Korotchenko got a job at the weekly Military-Industrial Courier, where he did everything he could to praise Defense Minister Sergei Ivanov, whom many saw as the successor of Vladimir Putin. At the same time, an officer who flew out from the ranks of the Russian army with a bang ... suddenly received the rank of colonel! Moreover, in violation of the procedure: Korotchenko did not pass the military training required in this case. When the illegality of obtaining the title was discovered, a new law was already passed, which allowed for an increase on the basis of one certification. Korotchenko got out of this story with minimal losses (only the date of the order changed), but the sediment remained.
        
        And then another trouble came. Korotchenko, who by that time had become the chief editor of "VPK", disagreed with the owner of the newspaper Igor Ashurbeyli. Someone in such cases leaves by himself, someone butts, and the colonel simply began to ... truant. Under this article he was fired. Even the court, to which Korotchenko, as usual, turned, did not help him.
        
        plabu
        
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        25 July 2020 23: 17
        
        Quote: Dear couch expert.
        ... If you knew that the Strategic Missile Forces are the Strategic Missile Forces, you would not suggest putting the Strategic Missile into a 20 or even 40 foot container.
        Only a tactical missile of the Caliber type will fit there.
        So I asked, do you understand the difference between tactical and strategic weapons?
        
        I do not presume to argue about a 40-foot container, but the system of a small-sized ICBM was developed oh, as not yesterday - Courier, and taking into account modern technologies, this is not even a truck it may well turn out ...
        
        Dear sofa expert.
        
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        25 July 2020 23: 29
        
        The courier, although it was intercontinental, was never strategic. Weight 15 tons. Charge up to 300 Ktn.
        In addition, the project did not take root.
        
        plabu
        
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        26 July 2020 00: 06
        
        And the weight is different, and the project did not take root then, BUT the documentation was stamped and will be stamped for a long time ...
        And what about your approach to classification is also not all right.
        
        Dear sofa expert.
        
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        26 July 2020 00: 17
        
        At present, there is no unambiguous and comprehensive definition of which nuclear weapons should be considered tactical. The line between tactical and strategic weapons is rather arbitrary and can vary depending on the conditions of use.
        
        Wiki
        
        But I consider a missile with a single warhead up to 300 Ktn as a tactical weapon.
        
        Dear sofa expert.
        
        +1
        
        26 July 2020 00: 24
        
        Capacities - in general, tactical nuclear weapons are usually less powerful than strategic ones (due to the possibility of being used near the front line, that is, near friendly objects). However, this classification is not exhaustive, as most modern nuclear weapons have varying yields. For example, the US B61 nuclear bomb, considered to be tactical, has the equivalent of 0,3 to 340 kilotons - more than the W87 warhead, which is considered to be a strategic one.
        
        Wiki
        
        plabu
        
        +1
        
        26 July 2020 00: 29
        
        In my opinion, your example is not entirely correct - a bomb is one thing and a little different - in my opinion, an ICBM with a tactical head - resembles a cannon from a sparrow, but this is my opinion, the classification is really, in fact, absent ...
        
        Dear sofa expert.
        
        +2
        
        26 July 2020 00: 39
        
        ICBM with a tactical head - reminiscent of a cannon sparrow
        
        This, apparently, is the answer why they were not accepted into service. It really makes little sense.
        And the example from Wikipedia is quite correct, as it defines an approximate border of 300 Ktn. The 340Ktn bomb is considered tactical, and the W87 (300Ktn) ICBM charge is strategic. At first glance, it seems absurd, but ...
        Don't forget where exactly the W87 was charged. And it was put on the famous "Minutemen", and there were such charges - 10! So the total capacity of 3 megatons was already very strategic.
        From myself I will tell you: 300 Ktn is not as much as it might seem. In terms of the striking radius of action, this is only about 2 times more than 30 Ktn.
        
        plabu
        
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        26 July 2020 00: 47
        
        Alas, the fact that this project was hacked to death was another work of Gorbachev's hands, and as a formal basis it was that the Americans pushed their project aside - the midgetman, it seems ... in short, their attempt to create a PGRK.
        
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        Dear sofa expert.
        
        +1
        
        26 July 2020 00: 56
        
        Gorbachev undoubtedly had a hand in this (and not only this), but there were most likely objective factors. Apparently, a small charge with low hitting accuracy was not effective enough. Yes, and small-sized PGRKs were intended for movement on ordinary roads in order to mix with civilian vehicles for the purpose of camouflage, which in itself was dangerous for those around them.
        
        Dear sofa expert.
        
        +3
        
        26 July 2020 00: 44
        
        On the other hand, there is another important factor. Currently, delivery vehicles are becoming more and more highly accurate, so sometimes it makes sense to reduce the charge power as well, without losing the strategic effect.
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    25 July 2020 23: 12
    
    Quote: 123
    there are weapons that fit in conventional containers. So, nuclear weapons can be in Kamaz, carrying watermelons, and in a dry cargo ship, etc.
    
    As far as I remember, Club-K with a nuclear warhead was not made ...
    
    So it's not about the club, even when they made, in fact, an ICBM on KAMAZ - the Courier was called.
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      25 July 2020 23: 40
      
      so it's not about the club, even when they actually made an ICBM at KAMAZ - the Courier was called.
      
      It was never done, the work was stopped in 1991. Range not specified. In my opinion, ICBMs go from 5 km. I doubt she would have gone much further. It's not enough for another continent.
      1. plabu
        
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        26 July 2020 00: 09
        
        The work was then stopped by a strong-willed decision, that now - one can only guess ...
        And many of the questions that were difficult then are now quite at the level.
        And from where to fly to the continent, that's the question.
        
        123
        
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        26 July 2020 00: 11
        
        And from where to fly to the continent, that's the question
        
        Nuclear weapons are not deployed from the territory of Russia, abroad, if only not sea-based.
Obama Barack

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25 July 2020 21: 25

I hope that such a complex is already rolling around Russia.
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monman

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26 July 2020 19: 20

The weight of the rocket in the carriage will be higher than the permissible load on the track (or wheelset). Generally, the iron sheet is designed for certain loads. If the load is exceeded (I don't know if this is possible), then it will lead to the destruction of the canvas and / or movement at such a low speed that it will stop traffic in some areas and, as a reaction, on many others (I am not talking about crossing the bridge .. .)
Determining the source of the jam from the satellite is an easy task. It remains only to watch him closely ...
1. plabu
  
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  26 July 2020 22: 16
  
  Quote: cmonman
  The weight of the rocket in the carriage will be higher than the permissible load on the track (or wheelset). Generally, the iron sheet is designed for certain loads. If the load is exceeded (I don't know if this is possible), then it will lead to the destruction of the canvas and / or movement at such a low speed that it will stop traffic in certain sections and, as a reaction, on many others (I am not talking about crossing the bridge .. .)
  Determining the source of the jam from the satellite is an easy task. It remains only to watch him closely ...
  
  Here, even in the comments, there is a link to an article about BZHRK, so even there, in fact, it has been written about it, despite the fact that that article is more than one year old, that article also has disadvantages, but that's another question ...
  But you should write the main thing about the shortcomings of the system, right? - essentially NOT owning the question, but when it confused you ...
2. Dear sofa expert.
  
  +3
  
  27 July 2020 00: 17
  
  Don't talk nonsense, expert.
  
  According to the information that got into the open press, the weight of the launch module of the Barguzin BZHRK does not exceed 65-70 tons, which roughly corresponds to the characteristics of an ordinary freight car. It is easy to see that the crushing power of the Molodets is much greater than that of its contemporary, but this deficiency is compensated for by the increased accuracy of missiles and the use of special blocks to overcome the missile defense.
  
  https://militaryarms.ru/boepripasy/rakety/bzhrk-molodec-i-barguzin/
Dust

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26 July 2020 22: 56

If the Americans begin to deploy their medium-range and shorter-range missiles on the territory of NATO member countries, they will reduce the strike time on Russian territory to 5-6 minutes from the moment of launch

I wonder why Russia is not considering deploying its missiles in Cuba and Venezuela? We understand very well that in the event of a nuclear war, the whole of Europe will be under fire .... And then experts like Korotchenko will tell us that Russia will destroy America with a retaliatory strike in 30-45 minutes! Then only one question for all Russians. Who cares what happens in 45 minutes when American missiles fired from Poland or Romania are buried?
1. Dust
  
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  26 July 2020 22: 59
  
  There is such a game - chess! It is not the one with the most pieces that wins! And the one who has a better position to attack the king! ....