Kedmi: Putin has already decided what to do with Donbass


Russian President Vladimir Putin has already decided what to do with Donbass, said the militarypolitical expert Jacob Kedmi on the Israeli ITON.TV program.


I don't think Putin will ever say: "Donbass is Russia"

- said Kedmi, answering questions from viewers.

According to Kedmi, the Russian leader has already expressed everything on this matter. And the position of the President of Russia is extremely clear and consists in the fact that the problem affects not so much Donbass itself, but the whole of Ukraine. The expert is convinced that Russia will not annex the Donbass (DPR and LPR), as this would mean giving up on the entire remaining multimillion Russian-speaking population of Ukraine. Russia will never do this and will not agree to this.

He (Putin) believes that Donbass should be part of Ukraine, but normal Ukraine, the way it once was

- stressed Kedmi.


Earlier it was reported that according to According to the former head of the Israeli intelligence service Nativ, Ukrainian nuclear power plants will become a priority target for Russian troops, as Moscow worries about the safety of these facilities.

It should be added that before that, the head of the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry Dmitry Kuleba announced Kiev's unwillingness to comply with the Minsk agreements. He called the change in Ukrainian legislation for the Donbass “a problem of Russia”.

We do not have a bureau of satisfaction of "wishes" of any countries

- said the head of the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry.
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  1. Monster_Fat Offline Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat (What's the difference) 25 July 2020 17: 40
    0
    The Kremlin has long made a choice - "Swiss suitcases" and a residence permit ... what is it, Donbass (DPR and LPR) ... wink
    1. Sergey Tokarev Offline Sergey Tokarev
      Sergey Tokarev (Sergey Tokarev) 25 July 2020 17: 58
      -4
      And why do the "Kremlin" pro-Ukrainian part of the LDNR population, loyal to Ukrainization and running across the front line? Either they are Russians, or let them hang out further.
  2. Valentine Offline Valentine
    Valentine (Valentin) 25 July 2020 17: 57
    +2
    But not to take them with the Galicia, let the Poles tame them again by burying them alive in the ground and planting them on a stake, maybe they will grow wiser.
    1. Sergey Tokarev Offline Sergey Tokarev
      Sergey Tokarev (Sergey Tokarev) 25 July 2020 18: 26
      +1
      You can train. No wiser ... only when they are free, their instincts take up again. Since the 17th century, Russia has wasted resources on them. For several years everything has disappeared from the pots.
  3. shinobi Offline shinobi
    shinobi (Yuri) 25 July 2020 18: 41
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    To seize the territory along the border of the year 39.
    1. Sergey Tokarev Offline Sergey Tokarev
      Sergey Tokarev (Sergey Tokarev) 25 July 2020 18: 51
      -4
      And leave those who betrayed Sheremetyev, staged a massacre of the Haidamaks and others? In Russia and without them there is someone to serve as an ensign and steal stew from warehouses.
    2. boriz Offline boriz
      boriz (boriz) 25 July 2020 19: 59
      +3
      Are you kidding me? There are still about 25 million people left. This is not Crimea. Who will feed them? Should the defense industry be returned there? Where are your engineers / workers? To the labor exchange? Ukraine is not needed in this form. And the habits from the days of the USSR to freebies are nowhere to be found. And here is such a reason! Occupied - feed.
      And Ukraine is not needed in any form. It was not in vain that Putin criticized Lenin for the model of uniting the country in the USSR. This is a message for those who have brains in their heads to understand (but this, of course, is not about Zelensky). There will be no more "fraternal" republics. Southwestern Federal District. And there, gradually, as the population matures (when lawlessness and hunger begins), the regions will take over. When very much asked. And not immediately put on the allowance, but through the roadmap. Through a plan to bring legislation and the real sector into an adequate state compatible with the Russian Federation. Through the identification of the population, noticed over the years in disloyalty and expelling them to the west of the country ... sorry, territory. And, since the accession negotiations will begin with the coming to power of groups of the local elite, coordinated with the Russian Federation, and they will be responsible for this, then there is no need to look for disloyal ones. The locals will hand them over in wagons. 1937 will rest on the sidelines ... Who ate there in 2015 a cake called "Moskalsky baby"? The video is left, not left - people remember.
      And in which school in the Kiev region was the director of the half-naughty Mikhail Karasev, who wrote a book of nursery rhymes published more than once, where there is a pearl:

      Vova killing the dog.
      Who can condemn Vova?
      The dog does not want to read
      Ukrainian mov.


      This is not to the west, this is to the zone, for inciting national hatred.
      Well, further in the same spirit. That nonsense, which for 30 years has hammered the heads of tens of millions of people, will not go away with a click, such masses of people are simply dangerous. First, quarantine.
      1. Dima Dima_2 Offline Dima Dima_2
        Dima Dima_2 (Dima Dima) 25 July 2020 20: 52
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        Hee, and how does this position differ from the Ukrainian one? They also suggest that before taking Donbass back, to lead people through filtration camps.
        1. Sergey Tokarev Offline Sergey Tokarev
          Sergey Tokarev (Sergey Tokarev) 25 July 2020 21: 24
          -1
          They already regretted ... Khmelnitsky's son was shitting with his sons-in-law, Shukhevych's grandson continued his business. And service in the Soviet army did not prevent them from wearing Nazi uniforms. Although no camps will fix them ...
  4. boriz Offline boriz
    boriz (boriz) 25 July 2020 18: 42
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    He (Putin) believes that Donbass should be a part of Ukraine, but normal Ukraine, the way it once was.

    Why would he then issue Russian passports en masse? Of course, they give it out slowly, but still there will soon be more than half of Russians. And when the Armed Forces of Ukraine begin to kill the citizens of the Russian Federation ... One can only guess what Putin will do, especially in light of the new changes in the Constitution.
    1. Sergey Tokarev Offline Sergey Tokarev
      Sergey Tokarev (Sergey Tokarev) 25 July 2020 18: 49
      -2
      Not soon ... there are not many people who want to register with the military registration and enlistment office. Citizenship must be earned.
      1. boriz Offline boriz
        boriz (boriz) 25 July 2020 19: 26
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        It would be nice in numbers and dynamics ...
        1. Sergey Tokarev Offline Sergey Tokarev
          Sergey Tokarev (Sergey Tokarev) 25 July 2020 20: 06
          -4
          I know that the issue is sluggish and less and less. This suits me and is generally not interesting. Arseny Pavlov was already the owner of a Russian passport, and most of the rest did not particularly show themselves. At the first shots, they fled, and pensioners from Russia trained the "miners". Apparently, they do not take to the army from Donbass, since their officers were not found. Now a conflict is brewing there between the Russians and those for whom the Ukrainians are a fraternal people.
          1. boriz Offline boriz
            boriz (boriz) 25 July 2020 20: 17
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            Your words are dark water in the clouds ...
            And at the beginning of June 180 passports had been issued and 000 had been issued. And, according to Strana.ua, the Russian authorities are going to issue another 100 - 000 passports by the end of the year.
            This is a lot for the LDNR. And every day the likelihood is growing that another pregnant woman, killed by the arrival of something with a caliber of 120 mm, will turn out to be a citizen of the Russian Federation.
            1. Sergey Tokarev Offline Sergey Tokarev
              Sergey Tokarev (Sergey Tokarev) 25 July 2020 20: 24
              -4
              The Ukrainian resource, of course, is very authoritative ... so far I have met only draft dodgers (from Lugansk, for example). The Chinese ambassador fell victim to the arrival of American ammunition, so what ??? In the end, it will be up to the employer to decide whether to hire with a Donetsk residence permit or not. In the meantime, let the grooves on the knees be assembled with a screwdriver. This is the most modern production they have.
              1. boriz Offline boriz
                boriz (boriz) 25 July 2020 21: 31
                +3
                I took this very resource, because I have been reading and listening for a year and a half. Quite adequate, surprisingly.
                The face of the resource, Olesya Medvedeva, has a dad living in the Ukrainian part of the ATO zone, and a grandmother in a part that is not controlled by Ukraine. And the grandmother flew into the house of 152 mm caliber. Lucky survived.
                Olesya herself was born in Gorlovka, a gymnasium in Horlivka, inyaz in Donetsk. A beautiful woman, a great journalist. She understands this topic specifically. Itself - in the Peacemaker, the owner of the resource Guzhva, which has been in Austria for a year, a case has been initiated against him. Incorrect event resource is lighting.
                Her opinion is more important to me than yours.
                Arrival at the Chinese ambassador is a problem for China.
                Where will the employer decide? More intelligibly.

                for now, let the grooves on the knees be assembled with a screwdriver. This is the most modern production they have.

                The war is there, actually. Who will invest there, if everything is on bird's rights. Any job you have is good.
                I spoke here with a guy from the regional center of the Zaporozhye region. Half of the city is not, some in the Russian Federation, some in Poland. All production facilities were closed. He himself has been working with us for over a year. I pulled it off as soon as the visits of the military registration and enlistment office began. Obtains citizenship. Nobody looks at the registration: hands and head are normal - go to work.
                1. Sergey Tokarev Offline Sergey Tokarev
                  Sergey Tokarev (Sergey Tokarev) 25 July 2020 21: 50
                  -4
                  What a sadness ... and until 2014, what - nothing was created and developed? A bad dancer is always hindered by something. As they produced what was developed in the 70s and 80s, they do it. Don't try to convince me. And, apparently, "vacationers" should die while your friend works with us ??? Then he also build a small factory at the expense of the budget of the Russian Federation in his homeland? Then they'll panic ... don't try to convince me.
                  1. boriz Offline boriz
                    boriz (boriz) 25 July 2020 22: 33
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                    You have some kind of confusion. Do not understand anything. Who collects where, where is the employer ...
                    Do I have to solve your puzzles?
                    My friend got away to not participate in the ATO. Well done.
                    1. Sergey Tokarev Offline Sergey Tokarev
                      Sergey Tokarev (Sergey Tokarev) 25 July 2020 22: 34
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                      And who will rebuild and protect Donbass? Your acquaintance has escaped to where the ass is warm and better fed.
                      1. boriz Offline boriz
                        boriz (boriz) 25 July 2020 22: 38
                        +2
                        Do you understand Russian yourself? He left the Zaporozhye region and took his wife and two children to us. There will be normal Russian people. Russian language - no one will say that it is from Ukraine. People who are completely sane. What do you want from them? What Donbass?
                      2. Sergey Tokarev Offline Sergey Tokarev
                        Sergey Tokarev (Sergey Tokarev) 25 July 2020 22: 41
                        -5
                        Ordinary ... his Natsiks jump, fairy tales tell about the sane majority, and the rats, it turns out, just fled ... who should clean it up? Volunteers from Russia? They surrendered .. the dam will break through, the floor of Zaporozhye and so will wash away.
                      3. boriz Offline boriz
                        boriz (boriz) 25 July 2020 23: 06
                        +2
                        Wake up.
                      4. Sergey Tokarev Offline Sergey Tokarev
                        Sergey Tokarev (Sergey Tokarev) 25 July 2020 23: 09
                        -5
                        Advise your Cossacks .. have slept through their brains, conscience and country.
                    2. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
                      Bulanov (Vladimir) 27 July 2020 14: 05
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                      For Tokarev: Whether or not there will be American missiles in Kharkov, this is not a question for a former resident of Zaporozhye, but a question for the Russian authorities, so we need to work in all directions. When Catherine II decided to bring down the Crimean Khanate, she took out the Greeks and households from there. the way of life in the Crimea collapsed, after which the Crimea was annexed to Russia.
                    3. Sergey Tokarev Offline Sergey Tokarev
                      Sergey Tokarev (Sergey Tokarev) 27 July 2020 19: 23
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                      So much the worse for the inhabitants of Kharkov ... when the missiles are destroyed, it can catch on the natives. And let Zaporozhye worry about the Dneproges dam. All guarantees for the integrity are already out. Washes away to hell.
      2. Bitter Offline Bitter
        Bitter (Gleb) 25 July 2020 22: 16
        +3
        to take with a Donetsk residence permit to work or not.

        Is this discrimination based on the place of residence or just in the face? Having read such passions and pearls in advance, some people probably doubted the decision on citizenship, because what is there in Ukraine, that there is nothing good in Russia for a "Negro" with a Donetsk residence permit and an accent does not shine, even if he is even Russian up to the fiftieth generation ...
        1. Sergey Tokarev Offline Sergey Tokarev
          Sergey Tokarev (Sergey Tokarev) 25 July 2020 22: 19
          -5
          The same Russian as Klimkin? Russian is not only a language, but also actions.
          1. Bitter Offline Bitter
            Bitter (Gleb) 25 July 2020 22: 27
            +3
            Don't tell me about purely Russian actions, absolutely wrong judgment. People are all different.
            Many nationalities, including in Russia, and elsewhere on the globe, are more Russians in their relation to Russia than some indigenous Russians. For rudeness, here you can argue about the championship.
            1. Sergey Tokarev Offline Sergey Tokarev
              Sergey Tokarev (Sergey Tokarev) 25 July 2020 22: 45
              -3
              I do not argue ... for all listeners of Echo of Moscow and others, there is no more Russian than Lesha Navalny. Everything is relative!
              1. Bitter Offline Bitter
                Bitter (Gleb) 26 July 2020 00: 59
                +1
                Everything is relative!

                Well, everything is clear. You, by an incomprehensible right, have built some kind of fences and fenced off "your" Russia from all other Russians and look down on them through the prism of migration services and through the lips of various subjects and businessmen with a very inflamed (sick) feeling of false patriotism. To "Echo of Moscow", listen, along the way, only in Moscow. That's why it echoes, as it clicks, it will backfire.
              2. Sergey Tokarev Offline Sergey Tokarev
                Sergey Tokarev (Sergey Tokarev) 26 July 2020 06: 24
                -1
                There are two types of ukrov. Some are distinctly European, while others are distinctly Russian ... in words. And so there is no difference between them, especially in the strawberry fields in Poland.
              3. Bitter Offline Bitter
                Bitter (Gleb) 26 July 2020 18: 56
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                ... in the strawberry fields in Poland.

                Tell me more about the Russian women / -s working in hotels in Turkey, on olive plantations in Greece, about handymen at construction sites in Portugal. What types are they, in your opinion, "summer cottages"? laughing
              4. Sergey Tokarev Offline Sergey Tokarev
                Sergey Tokarev (Sergey Tokarev) 26 July 2020 19: 01
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                Russians in Turkey? This is rather an exception than a rule, like among Ukrainians))) In Poland, you can find Indians, only they do not burst there all over the country and they do not hang banners advertising work in Poland.
  • Accidentally Offline Accidentally
    Accidentally 25 July 2020 21: 35
    -2
    Eh, the late A. Mozgovoy (brigade commander) is not alive, otherwise he would explain the truth to you. Where some Ukrainian Jews against other Kremlin Jews happily kill goyim (Russians) ...... so, Donbass is a bargaining chip.
    1. Sergey Tokarev Offline Sergey Tokarev
      Sergey Tokarev (Sergey Tokarev) 25 July 2020 22: 20
      -5
      Until the last Ukrainian)))
  • rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
    rotkiv04 (Victor) 26 July 2020 09: 42
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    The conflict is in your head or in the pot, and there is a conflict between stupid and normal people coming out, however, as on the entire outskirts.
  • 123 Offline 123
    123 (123) 25 July 2020 23: 05
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    It would be nice in numbers and dynamics ...

    Recently in Luhansk they talked about 100 issued passports and another 000 handed over documents. In Donetsk, if I'm not mistaken, there are 50 times more (this is so, for an approximate understanding of the dynamics).
  • Igor Pavlovich Offline Igor Pavlovich
    Igor Pavlovich (Igor Pavlovich) 25 July 2020 20: 09
    +4
    What Putin will do, especially in light of the new changes in the Constitution, will express serious concern ...
    1. boriz Offline boriz
      boriz (boriz) 25 July 2020 20: 12
      +2
      Let's see. Until February 2014, everyone was vying with each other about Crimea-Ukraine, but then something went wrong ...
  • Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 25 July 2020 20: 21
    +5
    The Jew this time correctly announced. The Kremlin put on all sorts of Wishlist cheers for patriots. They quite like the buffer zone, with shooting, corruption, tension and eternal media activity.
  • Wanderer039 Offline Wanderer039
    Wanderer039 26 July 2020 01: 27
    +5
    Donbass will return to Russia, with or without Putin, and normal Ukraine exists only in the unhealthy fantasies of old people. Ukraine has always rotted and betrayed, from Mazepa to Bandera, and the exit of the sworn Russia of eternal loyalty to Ukraine from the USSR.
  • Xo-xo Offline Xo-xo
    Xo-xo (Yovan) 26 July 2020 04: 48
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    Quote: Wanderer039
    the exit of the sworn Russia of eternal loyalty to Ukraine from the USSR

    Remember that Judah-Yeltsin was the first to declare sovereignty (secession from the Union). The Russian Federation is a traitor for many republics of the USSR (I speak as a citizen of the Russian Federation), and even took the temporary attributes (a flag with a caricatured emblem) of the former "prison of peoples". No one will reach out to us until the social system changes to a normal one, with the corresponding attributes of the country (the best option is to return the normal attributes of the RSFSR).
    1. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
      rotkiv04 (Victor) 26 July 2020 09: 48
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      And that's 100% true.
  • Nikolay Malyugin (Nikolai Malyugin) 26 July 2020 07: 01
    +1
    There are no former scouts. You can't deny Kedmi's intelligence. And that he is a patriot of his country.
  • Cucumbers Offline Cucumbers
    Cucumbers (Cucumbers) 26 July 2020 08: 52
    +1
    The Russian leader expressed the idea that with the collapse of the USSR, the republics should have seceded from the country within the borders that they had at the time of entry into Russia. This is a message not only to Donbass, Kherson, but also to Poland, Hungary, Romania.
  • rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
    rotkiv04 (Victor) 26 July 2020 09: 47
    +1
    Donbass is Russia, as well as the entire left-bank outskirts, and they will all be in Russia, sooner or later.
  • Sergey Babeshko Offline Sergey Babeshko
    Sergey Babeshko (Sergey Babeshko) 26 July 2020 11: 15
    +1
    Not Donbass to Ukraine, but Ukraine to Donbass! But Donbass should not be contained.
  • Oleg Garist Offline Oleg Garist
    Oleg Garist (Oleg Garist) 26 July 2020 11: 25
    +1
    Maybe Putin now thinks so, but everything will not go according to the possible current thinking of Putin. Everything will go according to the Crimean scenario.
  • Alex po Offline Alex po
    Alex po (Alex Po) 26 July 2020 19: 20
    +2
    Judging by the conversations between Poroshenko and Biden and the prompt resolution of some IMF issues to Zelensky, Ukraine is precisely the Bureau for the Enforcement of Pretoria's Wishes, as befits a colony.
    1. Vladimir Reutov Offline Vladimir Reutov
      Vladimir Reutov (Vladimir Reutov) 31 July 2020 10: 33
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      A vague story !!!