The Kadyrov factor: why did "Putin's foot soldier" scare the United States so much?

Before our eyes, another round of acute conflict between the two leaders - the head of the Chechen Republic Ramzan Kadyrov and the President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky - is beginning to "unwind". Passions reached such a level that the United States hastened to intervene in the situation, deciding to "a little hurt" the unstoppable Chechen who dared to "run into" their protégé like a man.

The effect, however, was achieved exactly the opposite of what they wanted to achieve. What is happening today between Grozny and Kiev, what does Moscow have to do with this, and why is Washington so alarmed?

"Zelensky, be a man!"

To fully understand the essence of what is happening, you and I will have to remember how, in fact, the current story began, which has been going on for more than six years. In 2014, when everything happened, Vova Zelensky was still a perky clown who amused the respectable audience for good money and did not have any political ambitions, and Ramzan Kadyrov, who by that time had gone through fire, water and copper pipes, had been leading Chechnya for almost ten years. It was then that in the "humorous" show "Pure news" led by the future president of Ukraine they decided to joke. It seemed to them - very funny ... "Joking" about the demolition of another monument to Lenin in Ukrainian Kharkov. The footage of a crying Kadyrov was used as a video sequence, on which a very real sound sequence was superimposed - the sobbing of a real Kharkov veteran, through tears choking him, saying: “Lenin was thrown down ... We have lived for 80 years and have not seen this. Fascists, Banderas ... "

According to the "brilliant" idea of ​​the authors of the show, it turned out that these words seemed to be uttered in the frame by Kadyrov. As it turned out a little later, the Chechen leader could not contain his emotions during prayer, and, according to reliable data, it was a commemoration of his father, ex-President of Chechnya Akhmat Kadyrov, who died as a result of the terrorist act on May 9, 2004. One of the few cases when tears in the eyes of even the strongest of men are more than appropriate ... Generally speaking, in order to mock the situation that Zelensky and the team decided to choose as a target for their own jokes, one must be not just an utter cynic, but completely complete scoundrel. Moreover, the result was also utter stupidity - Kadyrov expressed his attitude towards the leader of the world proletariat and his memory quite openly, urging to bury his body, which would be "reasonable and human." But where is Zelensky and where is common sense or at least elementary knowledge of the subject? Incompatible by definition.

With all this, in order to break off such numbers, offending both the religious and filial feelings of a devout Muslim, which Ramzan Kadyrov undoubtedly is, one must be an individual with very pronounced suicidal tendencies. This unscrupulous showman had to be convinced by his own bitter experience, and very soon. Deputy of the State Duma of Russia Shamsail Saraliev unambiguously advised the presumptuous "witty" to "get ready for the ground", recalling that it is "cold and slippery." There were other equally frank warnings. How did Zelensky behave? One thing can be said for sure: not like a man. First of all, he rushed for help to his fellow countryman and namesake, militia general Evdokimov, begging him to help "hush up" the incident. The latter, using his old connections, “connected” the showman with the leadership of the Chechen Interior Ministry, through which he allegedly conveyed his apologies to Kadyrov. At the same time, Vova was afraid to personally confess to Grozny, having passed the responsibility, like a naughty schoolboy.

By a strange coincidence, at about the same time in Kiev, his beloved Range Rover burned down, which frightened Zelensky even more. However, the scandal was somehow managed to extinguish, since the future head of the "nezalezhnoy", a couple of days after the release of the vile program, made an official statement in which he apologized "to everyone who offended, to all Muslims." True, at the same time, in his usual manner, he mercilessly dodged and lied, assuring that he "had no idea" about the content of the dirty video and the fact that the leader of Chechnya appeared in it, he did not edit it even before the broadcast (which he allegedly did not led personally, which is a direct and impudent lie) did not see at all. Anyone who is at least a little familiar with the "kitchen" of television, it is extremely difficult to believe in this. Cowardly lies have always been Zelensky's "hobbyhorse", no matter what position he occupies.

"Uncle Americans, save me, they hurt you!"

Moreover, back in 2014, Zelensky began to assert that he asked for forgiveness “from the Muslim people, and not personally from Kadyrov,” in an attempt to diminish his own shame. He voiced this position in a number of interviews with Ukrainian and other media, including not so long ago - in 2018. And here we are again dealing with an absolutely obvious lie - back in 2019, after the election of a desperately cowardly comedian as president of Ukraine, the press secretary of the head of Chechnya, Alvi Karimov, said that his apology had been accepted in due time. Consequently, such undoubtedly took place. Proof of this is the very fact of Zelensky's existence, if you will. For a long time, Kadyrov did not react to the boastful statements from Kiev, apparently based solely on the principle of the harmfulness of attempts to touch a substance known to everyone ... However, not so long ago, the thunder still struck.

The other day, the leader of Chechnya posted a post in Telegram, in which he recalled to the Ukrainian president not only that long and bad history, but also his subsequent behavior. And how I remembered! Kadyrov directly accuses Zelensky of the fact that he, hiding behind presidential powers, is trying to "pretend to be something, play around, wag, and elevate himself." And he demands either to “confirm the apology” or to be ready to “bear responsibility” for insulting the memory of Ramzan Akhmatovich's father. However, this is only the first part of the message addressed to Zelensky. The second is no less serious and concerns several other things. In it, calling himself “an infantryman of the Great Leader Vladimir Putin,” Ramzan Kadyrov demands the practically impossible from the head of the “nezalezhnoy”.

He speaks of Zelenskiy's “dishonesty and resourcefulness” not only in matters of honor, but also in politics, recalling his election promises to bring peace to Ukraine and Donbass. Kadyrov asks directly: "What prevents you from calling Vladimir Putin and announcing the end of the war?" He calls on the president "nezalezhnoy", in spite of "pride and someone else's evil will," to establish "good-neighborly and correct relations with Great Russia," taking the first step towards meeting. It is precisely these moments, no doubt, that served as the reason for the extremely nervous and harsh reaction of the United States that followed literally immediately. No, announcing the inclusion of Ramzan Kadyrov, as well as three of his relatives in the "black list" of persons who are prohibited from entering American territory, US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo did not even mention the poor and scared Ukrainian president with a word - the standard set was used accusations of "human rights violations" and the like.

However, the fact that Washington's decision to impose new sanctions against the head of the Chechen Republic was made precisely after his demarche in the direction of Kiev can by no means be a coincidence. Moreover, in his post, Kadyrov directly and unequivocally mentions the "transatlantic will", which orders the Ukrainians to "kill the Russian people in Lugansk and Donetsk." You cannot say more specifically, and this directness of the Chechen leader was appreciated in Washington. The only thing that was not foreseen there was the response of Ramzan Akhmatovich - instead of lamenting about the bitterness of the loss of the opportunity to set foot on American soil and lamenting about an unfair insult, he immediately published everything in the same Telegram, a very impressive photo, which depicts with two light machine guns in hands and a radiant smile on his face. The caption is short but meaningful: “Pompeo, we accept the fight! And the promise that "it will be more interesting further." A little later, however, the head of the Chechen Republic invited the head of the State Department to his ancestral village. On kebabs, obviously ... Or - to familiarize yourself with the situation regarding human rights on the spot.

In this situation, the most unpleasant and frightening moment for the United States is the thing that few people today dare to talk about openly. The Chechen path, the Chechen scenario of reconciliation with Russia, in fact, is today the only real path for Ukraine in its current state. The alternative is complete disintegration as a state entity and disappearance from the political map of the world. Only the coming to power in it can save the country - instead of demoniac nationalists, bloodthirsty "Muscovites", or spineless puppets of Washington - leaders who are able not only to put an end to confrontation with Moscow, but also to recognize its seniority, supremacy in mutual relations, and conduct the corresponding policy is not in words, but in deeds. Ramzan Kadyrov is terrible for the Americans not by the ability to hold two PKMs at once or to bring Zelenskiy into fits of hysterical terror with a few words, but by the fact that he is an ideal example of just such a leader. Fighting in the First Chechen war against the federal troops, the Kadyrov family was able to realize the disastrous path of this path for their native land and give Chechnya peace, tranquility, economic revival and the right to live according to their own traditions and customs, without waging a bloody and hopeless war for this. Today the proud son of the Caucasus calls himself "Putin's foot soldier" and, apparently, is proud of this title - this is what he is categorically unacceptable for Washington.

Kadyrov's message to Zelenskiy is not his personal showdown or blood feud, but, in fact, compulsion to peace on behalf of Russia, with which the head of Chechnya inseparably identifies himself. It is for this that the sanctions followed, and not for some mythical "human rights violations" that Americans see everywhere except their own country. A person who has shown that turning an entire country, an entire people, which the West has tried to turn into our mortal and eternal enemies, is a very real thing, can set an example for those Ukrainians who understand that the current path of their homeland leads to the abyss ... It's up to those who will be able to think and bring the right thoughts to life. But this is, of course, not about Zelensky. He'd better just apologize. It will be more whole ...
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  1. Dear sofa expert. 22 July 2020 10: 35
    Great article, Alexander, with the right message. It's time for Ukrainians to turn on their own heads and stop dancing to the overseas tune.
    1. woron333444 Offline woron333444
      woron333444 (Sergei) 22 July 2020 10: 48
      If there were more brains in this Ukrainian head. And then one jump-start thought and that's it.
  2. Igor Pavlovich Offline Igor Pavlovich
    Igor Pavlovich (Igor Pavlovich) 22 July 2020 12: 26
    I really like to watch how Russians (not Russians) avidly express their adoration and reverence for the man who specifically made the Kremlin and all Russians pay reparations for all Chechen wars, restored his country at the expense of the Russians and imposed an indemnity, which the Kremlin is in its teeth, wagging his tail guiltily , unquestioningly brings him on a silver platter every year ... Kadyrov really commands respect.
    1. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
      Bulanov (Vladimir) 22 July 2020 13: 33
      For Igor Pavlovich et al.
      Russians paid tribute to the Kazan, Astrakhan, and Crimean khanates. And where are those khanates now? They live happily in Russia, not Mongolia or China!

      A donkey laden with gold will take any fortress.

      Philip the Great.
      Who does not know - this is the pope of Alexander the Great ...
      1. Bitter Offline Bitter
        Bitter 23 July 2020 21: 21
        ... Kazan, and Astrakhan, and Crimean khanates were paid tribute. And where now ...

        Centuries have passed since those times, it would seem that everything that we needed was bought or conquered by our ancestors before us. Victory in the Great Patriotic War allowed the USSR to make an absolutely new alignment of forces in its favor, on the entire planet. But suddenly a phenomenal, extremely generous (at someone else's expense) and slightly drunk Uncle Borya appears, sows independence in all directions and renounces everything for which the ancestors shed blood and sent donkeys laden with gold.
        Here, like, we are separating and will be very independent from everyone, they (the republics of the USSR), you see, all the "freeloaders", tired of feeding them. And here, we are suddenly bombing some kind of autonomy and leveling the mountains there with the horizon, just because we want them to live safely.
        How did these flower sellers from the late USSR deserve such subsidies? Why are the republics of Kalmykia, Mordovia, Mari El, Tyva, Altai or the same ill-fated Khabarovsk Territory worse than this Caucasian region?
        Naturally, it is convenient - on each occasion to roll out the most favorable interpretation of the inconsistent policy of "progressive" Russian leaders.
    2. General Black Offline General Black
      General Black (Gennady) 22 July 2020 19: 48
      And we like to watch how the negroes put you in the pose of a running Egyptian. And you lick their shoes for it. Apparently, they went into a rage? Everything in this world is relative, Igor Pavlovich, everything is relative.
    3. Petrovich Offline Petrovich
      Petrovich (Sergei) 22 October 2020 21: 02
      Chechnya is Russia, let it be known to you, so, Igor Pavlovich, we have restored our country ...
  3. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 22 July 2020 12: 36
    Wah. He scared the United States, and the whole article about the Ukrainians.
    The United States is trembling. Afraid that Chechens will ban Obama from entering Chechnya! And, Trump and Merkel's accounts in Grozny are about to be arrested))))
    1. Syoma_67 Offline Syoma_67
      Syoma_67 (Semyon) 25 July 2020 21: 09
      Kadyrov scared the USA so much

      - that's it, you don't have to read further! This article is for schizophrenics or "hurray for the patriots", although some are not far from the latter.
  4. Yuri Nemov Offline Yuri Nemov
    Yuri Nemov (Yuri Nemov) 22 July 2020 13: 20
    Well said. good
  5. Natan bruk Offline Natan bruk
    Natan bruk (Nathan Brook) 22 July 2020 22: 21
    The USA is shaking with fear :))) Necropic in its repertoire. Does this mean that they are also afraid of all Russian bigwigs who are not allowed to enter the United States? And the Russians are afraid of those who are prohibited from entering Russia? Americans should be afraid of this abrek - Acad. There is nothing to Emik, they just do not want to see him at home, but the Russians should be afraid of him - maybe they can force anyone to apologize.
    1. Dear sofa expert. 22 July 2020 23: 01
      USA is shaking with fear

      Yes, no one makes them afraid of something. They are so strong, mighty, but for some reason from time to time they are "cut down" by all sorts of grandfathers running through the mountains with a phone in hand.
      1. Natan bruk Offline Natan bruk
        Natan bruk (Nathan Brook) 23 July 2020 07: 33
        Simply, as it was said, they do not want to see these abreks at home.
        1. Dear sofa expert. 23 July 2020 10: 05
          Simply, as it was said, they do not want to see these abreks at home.

          Who will ask them now, Nathan?
          How does it say? Are we responsible for those we have tamed?
          This is how it was in the 80s, when the Americans created Al Qaeda to harm the "Soviets" in Afghanistan, and then this Al Qaeda demolished their towers. This was the case in the 90s, when the Americans supported the same notorious Chechens (the same Kadyrov, by the way) in their war against Russia, and then the same Chechens staged a terrorist attack in Atlanta.
          Today, Americans support Ukrainian nationalists, and mark my word, some kind of "fiery greetings from Shukhevych" will not keep you waiting too long. Something like this.
          1. Natan bruk Offline Natan bruk
            Natan bruk (Nathan Brook) 24 July 2020 01: 08
            Yes, you have to ask. This is still not Russia - where are they at home. Those who have been barred from entering the United States will no longer get to the United States. In Russia, yes, Kadyrov and his abreks can do absolutely whatever they want. Chechnya is a purely nominally part of Russia, despite the fact that Chechens move around it completely freely.
            1. Dear sofa expert. 24 July 2020 08: 06
              Yes, you have to ask.

              You are on emotions, apparently. You do not read carefully. I have already given you examples there, and this is only part of what happened.

              Those who have been barred from entering the United States will no longer get to the United States.

              Even more naive. Yes, their diasporas are scattered all over the world (I mean, not necessarily only Chechen ones).

              Today, Americans support Ukrainian nationalists, and mark my word, some kind of "fiery greetings from Shukhevych" will not keep you waiting too long.

              This is my main message, you tactfully did not notice? You have an amazing knack for taking out of context what is secondary.)
              1. Natan bruk Offline Natan bruk
                Natan bruk (Nathan Brook) 24 July 2020 11: 45
                In the United States, the Chechen diasporas are quieter than water. The exceptions (the Boston attack) only proves the rule. Yes, and with the rest of the diasporas it seems that they are very keen on the opportunity to live in the United States - the same huge Chinese diaspora, in its bulk, has no sympathy for communist China and is holding on to the opportunity to live in the United States. And what about "support the nationalists" - they actually support the legitimate government, including recognized by the Russian Federation. Well, in terms of supporting terrorists, Russia is no better than others - the same double standards. For example, the Kremlin is quite fiddling with terrorists from Hezbollah on the grounds that they did not commit terrorist acts in Russia. That is, in other countries it is possible, this is nothing. Although, in fact, at one time it was Hezbollah militants who kidnapped 4 Soviet diplomats in Lebanon, and one of them (Arkady Katkov) was killed. But for the sake of a good relationship with such pretty girls, you can forget about it, right? By the way, the organizer and the direct killer, Imad Mugnie, nicknamed "Hyena", was later liquidated by the Israelis.
  6. Dear sofa expert. 22 July 2020 23: 22
    can make anyone apologize.

    Aren't you afraid that you too will be forced? Right on the street. Something like Medinat Ha-yehudim.
    1. Natan bruk Offline Natan bruk
      Natan bruk (Nathan Brook) 24 July 2020 01: 21
      What, in fact, will he or his abreks come to Israel and force? :))) I'd love to see it. Yes, the Chechens intimidated you great, since you consider them so omnipotent. But alas, here you are not here, they do not feel any trepidation before the bandits in Israel, in Russia they are afraid to say a crooked word to Kadyrov's bandits, but here with such, even if they managed to penetrate into Israel, which in itself is already impossible, the conversation will be short - it's not Israel that pays the tribute, but Russia.
      1. Dear sofa expert. 24 July 2020 08: 11
        Yes, the Chechens intimidated you great, since you consider them so omnipotent.

        Do not worry so much about others. Think about yourself. You are "witty" here with your "free" language.
        Yes, and photos of you and your relatives in the social. expose networks (OK) smaller (you still have not used the page for 3 years).
        1. Natan bruk Offline Natan bruk
          Natan bruk (Nathan Brook) 24 July 2020 11: 29
          Why should I fear for myself? It’s all of you who are so scared of Kadyrov's rams, but we don’t stand on ceremony with such people. Yes, and my relatives here and in the USA, where they also do not favor mountain sheep, so I am not at all afraid to post them and my photos on social networks.
      2. Dear sofa expert. 24 July 2020 13: 43
        What, in fact, will he or his abreks come to Israel and force? :))) I'd love to see it.

        On, look at the statistics:
        List_of_tracts_ against_ Israelis_and_Jews

        Because of such "sharp-tongued" as you, Jews around the world are "hunted" like game. Look how many victims, both Jews and random people, who happened to be around, because of such stupid mouths as yours.
        1. Natan bruk Offline Natan bruk
          Natan bruk (Nathan Brook) 24 July 2020 14: 21
          You only have to refer to Wikipedia. The Russians are hunted a little less and there have been enough terrorist attacks against them too - do you now shy away from your own shadow? But we do not, and we travel abroad very regularly. Well, the Israelis are not a cowardly people, and they are not afraid to express their opinion, they were raised that way .. And there have been no terrorist attacks against the Israelis abroad for a long time and God willing and will not, the special services don’t eat bread for free. Well, you continue to be afraid to open your mouth once again.
          1. Dear sofa expert. 24 July 2020 16: 21
            But we do not, and we travel abroad very regularly. Well, the Israelis are not a cowardly people and they are not afraid to express their opinion

            Yes, yes .. you can tell it now.)
            Yes, I see your brother often in Europe. Disguise yourself as anyone, if only you did not immediately guess - where, fortunately, the appearance allows. It is correct. For example, the council of the Jewish community in Germany at the official level strongly discourages wearing a kippah in public places, and, in general, asks to try not to stick out your nationality.


            You are our brave, homegrown)

            And there have been no terrorist attacks abroad against the Israelis, thank God.

            It's good when there are like three monkeys: I don't see anything, I don't know anything, just don't keep silent (apparently, stupid). And it would be better. I often read about attacks on Jews in Europe. Do not think that I am happy about it. On the contrary, I find it beastly, but reading your posts, it becomes clear dislike for your brother. Sorry.
            1. Natan bruk Offline Natan bruk
              Natan bruk (Nathan Brook) 24 July 2020 17: 10
              Well, I, in turn, understand the constant cries from Russia about Russophobia and hostility to Russians. Nobody likes it when the clamps of the "Russian world" are poked in their eyes. Sorry. As for Europe, I go there at least a couple of times a year and I have never hidden that I am from Israel. Moreover, I love to travel to Turkey and you may be surprised, but I have never seen any anti-Semitism there. On the contrary, having learned that I am from Israel, the Turks demonstrate their friendliness in every possible way. Although our Arabs - yes, they do not particularly like them, but they treat Jews very well. And as for the religious ones, I think - don't show all these personal belongings - no kippas, no hijabs. I personally am absolutely secular and it doesn't bother me in any way. Anyway, I came to the conclusion long ago that you should never generalize, people are different and everywhere. For example, we have a lot of Arab doctors and most of them are wonderful guys, they are our "comrades in arms." For one such, I will not give ten Jews, among whom there are enough shitty ones, as well as among the Russians, Americans, Ethiopians and others. By the way, there are ethnic Russians - the husbands of Jewish women, and they are almost more patriots of Israel than I am.
              1. Dear sofa expert. 24 July 2020 17: 30
                I like to travel to Turkey and you may be surprised, but there I have never seen any anti-Semitism. On the contrary, having learned that I am from Israel, the Turks demonstrate their friendliness in every possible way.

                Wikipedia writes something else)

                Despite the negligible Jewish population in Turkey, anti-Semitic sentiments are common in Turkish society. A particular surge of such sentiments occurred after the war in Lebanon in 2006, Israel's Operation Cast Lead in the Gaza Strip in December 2008 - January 2009, and in connection with the conflict over the Peace Flotilla in May-June 2010, when Israeli special forces Turkish citizens were killed. One problem is the fact that criticism of Israel's policies often turns into expressions of hostility towards Jews in general.

                Turks see that you are Russian - for them all Russian-speaking people are Russian (well, you don't communicate with them in language))) and therefore they treat you friendly.

                I visit Europe (much) more often than 2 times a year, and I have never met Russophobia in the last 30 years. Everywhere they are received with interest and respect. As, however, and the attitude towards the rest of the people of the former USSR - in view of, again, Russian-speaking. The only exceptions are the Ukrainians, because of their sometimes overly politicized behavior. But this is understandable - it is maidan in Africa - maidan.
                1. Natan bruk Offline Natan bruk
                  Natan bruk (Nathan Brook) 24 July 2020 23: 37
                  You should look less at Wiki - that is still a source :))) And how can the Turks see that I am "Russian" - I speak English with them - the bulk speaks it at the very least. And it is worth starting a conversation with them - as a rule, they ask where you are from, I always answer that from Israel, in return I always received an extremely friendly attitude. And it was everywhere - in Istanbul, and in Antalya, and in Alanya, and in Marmaris. But I saw Russophobia quite clearly in the Czech Republic and Poland, for example. And why would the Russian press scream about Russophobia throughout the West if, according to your statements, it does not exist? Well, and I simply cannot afford to travel abroad more often, in general, 3-5 times a year because of my work, but this is enough to more or less know what is happening in this regard.
                  1. Natan bruk Offline Natan bruk
                    Natan bruk (Nathan Brook) 24 July 2020 23: 45
                    By the way, about Ukraine, I didn’t notice much of Russophobia there, although I often visit my “prehistoric” one. Nobody infringes on ethnic Russians in any way - there is no discrimination, a ban on professions and other things (not to mention ethnic cleansing), they speak Russian calmly on the streets and nothing happens to anyone for that. What kind of strange Russophobia is this? It's another matter that very few people like the current Russian-world braces there, because this is a completely different story.
                    1. Dear sofa expert. 25 July 2020 00: 25
                      Well, we, apparently, visit different Czech Republics and Poland) I have not been to Ukraine, but I have many friends there. They say the opposite. In English (as, indeed, in any other), we, Nathan, speak with a Russian accent so that you understand)) We are calculated by this accent from the first two words. Roughly like we are Caucasians. So don't flatter yourself.) Thank you for making me laugh in the evening.
                      1. Natan bruk Offline Natan bruk
                        Natan bruk (Nathan Brook) 25 July 2020 00: 40
                        Yes, not at all. But imagine, I have practically no Russian accent, and this is not my personal opinion. It's just that I speak it, without false modesty, about the same as Hebrew - practically freely, since I purposefully studied it back in Ukraine. In Israel, they also quite calculate by the accent, where are you from, and so the fact that I am "Russian" is not often calculated, more often for some reason they think that I am from Poland or Romania (there are a lot of immigrants from there in Israel). In addition, as I already wrote, any conversation with a Turk begins with the question - "Where are you from?", And so I can repeat that I never hid that from Israel and in return received, as a rule, recognition in a very good relationship to Israel and very often stories that they have friends in Israel. Of course, all this is not without hypocrisy, but God forbid the Russians to be in their bulk to be the same benevolent, even outwardly. Well, about Ukraine - they say a lot of things, on Kisel-TV they generally say that they crucify boys. But I go there quite regularly - the last time was the year before last, and I still know better what is happening there.
                      2. Dear sofa expert. 25 July 2020 01: 52
                        I was in Turkey once, in 2010, I didn't like it there. In any case, in the tourist area, the Turks are beggars and traders. They will fulfill your benevolence for the money you want. All their interests in clients are simulated, so admiring it or not is a personal matter. The nature there, of course, is beautiful, and there are many historical sites. But in general - not mine. I am more impressed by the Spanish Canary Islands. The Spaniards are a little arrogant, but that doesn't bother me. I do not like it when people curry favor.
                      3. Natan bruk Offline Natan bruk
                        Natan bruk (Nathan Brook) 25 July 2020 07: 03
                        Well, it's a matter of taste. I was in the Canaries, it's good there, of course, I don't argue. But I'm somehow very comfortable and at home in Turkey. Who likes what.
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