Five new launch vehicles, including heavy ones, to be launched in the USA


None of the five most advanced American missiles will fly this year. About this writes the publication Ars Technica.


At the same time, analysts estimated the probability of launching each of the devices in 2021. So, according to the editors, the Omega carrier from Northrop Grumman, which in the future will be able to put up to 10 tons of payload into geo-transition orbit, has medium chances. The probability of flying Vulcan LV (14,4 tons) from ULA is medium-low, while SLS (20 tons) from Boeing, New Glenn (13 tons) from Blue Origin and monsterous Super Heavy (21 tons) from SpaseX have low chances of launch next year.

In fairness, it is worth noting that the last two carriers were not planned to be launched in 2020, while Omega, Vulcan and New Glenn were supposed to make their first flight this year.

In addition, the publication notes that the first launches of the Japanese H2021 launch vehicle, capable of delivering up to 3 tons to the GPO and the European Ariane 6,5 (up to 6 tons), are scheduled for the 11,5st. The probability of both missions in Ars Technica is rated as average.

It is worth recalling that the Vulcan rocket from the United Launch Alliance should replace the Atlas 5 carrier, which uses Russian RD-180 engines. The Volcano will be equipped with BE-4 methane units manufactured by Blue Origin. It is assumed that two new single-chamber engines installed on the first stage will be able to develop greater thrust than one two-chamber RD-180, operating on kerosene.
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  1. Cyril Offline
    Cyril (Kirill) 15 July 2020 17: 42
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    SuperHeavy really will be monstrous :)
  2. Syoma_67 Offline
    Syoma_67 (Semyon) 15 July 2020 20: 15
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    The United States will launch five new missiles at once

    - if they said, it means they will launch, it’s not Roscosmos.
    1. Oyo Sarkazmi Offline
      Oyo Sarkazmi (Oyo Sarkazmi) 15 July 2020 22: 48
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      Quote: Syoma_67
      if they said, then they’ll launch

      Agriculture, without the Mexicans, has already been launched. Work with blacks launched. And the rockets will launch ...
      1. master2 Offline
        master2 (Zhora) 16 July 2020 19: 54
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        Everything is in order with agriculture, and they will deal with blacks, not the first time. But Russia, in terms of space, lagged behind and very far away.
        1. Oyo Sarkazmi Offline
          Oyo Sarkazmi (Oyo Sarkazmi) 16 July 2020 20: 49
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          Quote: master2
          With agriculture, they are just fine

          Yeah, it’s so good that they started buying sunflower oil and soybeans in Russia.
          I agree, they’ll figure it out with the blacks, but the blacks have destroyed the tax base in large cities - restaurants, shops, taxis.
          As for space, we have stagnation, I do not argue, but the Americans have devastation. 10 years to make a rocket and a manned ship, in the computer petaflops age, when their predecessors flew to the moon with the help of slide rules and Shuttles launched on the i386 processor ... request
          1. Cyril Offline
            Cyril (Kirill) 17 July 2020 08: 24
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            As for space, we have stagnation, I do not argue, but the Americans have devastation. 10 years to make a rocket and a manned ship, in the computer petaflops age, when their predecessors flew to the moon with the help of slide rules and the Shuttles launched on the i386 processor ...

            Falcon-9 in a single-use version was made in 4 years - from 2006 to 2010.

            The reusable Falcon-9 was made in 7 years - from 2010 to 2017.

            Extra heavy Falcon Heavy was made in 8 years - from 2010 to 2017.

            The dragon in the cargo version was made in 4 years - from 2006 to 2010.

            Dragon in a manned version did 10 years. For comparison - the Space Shuttle was developed since 1968 pl 1981 (13 years)

            Well, like a cherry on a cake, the Angara has been developed for more than 25 years, the manned spacecraft Federation is more than 10 years old. Neither the rocket nor the ship has yet flown.
            1. Oyo Sarkazmi Offline
              Oyo Sarkazmi (Oyo Sarkazmi) 17 July 2020 08: 49
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              Quote: Cyril
              Falcon-9 in a single-use version made in 4 years - from 2006 to 2010

              Yes, here Mask was lucky, the brainchild of von Braun was difficult to spoil. Musk received a factory for Saturn-1, a complete set of documentation, and threw away everything that is possible - thermal insulation of tanks, an automatic fire extinguishing system. Plus, modern electronics has reduced the size of the diameter.
              The fee for this - the launch should be made for 5-10min after refueling. Otherwise, the rocket will collect ice and fly to the wrong place. For unmanned launches - this is a small risk, insurance will cover everything, but for manned launches - sitting in a rocket while refueling is not comme il faut for astronauts.
              But what Musk does himself is an explosion on cotton. Maskovers already from SN1 were waiting for entry into orbit, but reached, with burning with one engine, up to SN4, only she rushed due to the switching of the filling hoses.
              1. Cyril Offline
                Cyril (Kirill) 17 July 2020 10: 07
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                Yes, here Mask was lucky, the brainchild of von Braun was difficult to spoil.

                What else is von Braun's brainchild, what are you raving about?

                Musk received a factory for Saturn-1

                laughing Falcons are assembled at the former Boeing factory, which used to assemble - tadaaaaaam - the Boeing 747 fuselages.

                However, for you the Saturn-1 rocket and the Boeing 747 are the same thing, I understand))

                full set of documentation,

                laughing Personally looked Mask in a briefcase and saw this "complete set of documentation"?)

                threw away everything that is possible - tank insulation, automatic fire extinguishing system.

                laughing And also the engines and body, yeah))

                The fee for this - the launch should be made for 5-10min after refueling.

                This is a "fee" for the use of cryogenic fuel components, which can accommodate more of this fuel itself.

                But what Musk does himself is an explosion on cotton. .

                Say it to S.P. Queen with his H-1)) And he will tell you, twisting his finger at the temple, that the explosion of prototypes during the test period is a normal phenomenon.

                Maskovers already from SN1 were waiting for entry into orbit

                laughing Again, the maskophobe fantasies that he is trying to ascribe to someone, without understanding the topic)) Just like with the tales about the "free Starlink"))
                1. Oyo Sarkazmi Offline
                  Oyo Sarkazmi (Oyo Sarkazmi) 17 July 2020 21: 41
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                  Quote: Cyril
                  Again, the fantasies of the maskophobe, which he is trying to attribute to someone, without understanding the topic))

                  Well, get to know the corner of maskers from around the world. Unwound only until the beginning of June, and earlier, starting with the test of Starhopper, you get yourself.
                  The delight of each screw-in bolt and flash welding, 100 messages per day.

                  https://astronomy.ru/forum/index.php/topic,43103.23900.html
                  1. Cyril Offline
                    Cyril (Kirill) 17 July 2020 21: 58
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                    The delight of each screw-in bolt and flash welding, 100 messages per day.

                    And not a single message that the first prototype was supposed to go into orbit. But the answer is simple - Musk immediately and in plain text said that there will be several prototypes.

                    SN1 was supposed to make a 50 meter “jump” with a soft landing. He did it.
                    1. Oyo Sarkazmi Offline
                      Oyo Sarkazmi (Oyo Sarkazmi) 18 July 2020 09: 12
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                      SN1 crumpled when refueling. SN2 too. SN3 burst during high pressure tests. SN4 conducted a test burn, but it exploded due to the unsuccessful design of the refueling adapter.
                      SN5 will try to make a "jump", 6 and 7 - have already been canceled, they began to build SN8 from another steel.
                      In general, the "Laboratory of Chemical Reagents" of Mr. Koreiko ... love

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                      And not a single message that the first prototype was supposed to go into orbit.

                      The impulses of landing on Ceres were already calculated there. And Mars was written in the past tense, as a fait accompli.
                      1. Cyril Offline
                        Cyril (Kirill) 19 July 2020 00: 24
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                        Strhopper - successfully passed the test (with a 50 m jump and soft landing). SN2 - also passed the test (it did not collapse).

                        In general, the "Laboratory of Chemical Reagents" of Mr. Koreiko ...

                        Estimate, this is what happens in technology - tests are needed for this. I repeat - ask S.P. Queen about his tests N-1. And von Braun with his V-2 tests. In general, ask any constructor of any complex equipment - and he will tell you the same thing: accident on tests is normal.
  3. steelmaker Offline
    steelmaker 15 July 2020 20: 26
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    I am more interested in space, like defense, now. That from there something with the fool did not fly. When there is no money, you can only dream of fantasy !?
  4. 123 Offline
    123 (123) 15 July 2020 23: 19
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    None of the five most advanced American missiles will fly this year.

    I don’t see anything “out of the ordinary” in this, shifting the timing “to the right” is a common thing for new technology, especially since 2 of these missiles were not planned to be launched in 2020. Moreover, problems with the economy, coronavirus can adversely affect the timing of programs.
    And if local activists pay close attention, for example, to the fact that astronauts are mostly white, fashion suits in the Mask company are suspiciously white, in the interior of Dragon, however, as in the exterior, white predominates, it may very well be suspected that black lives are not that important to SpaseX. repeat Whoever knows, we may soon see (with great difficulty) black astronauts in dark black suits inside a black Dragon on a rocket, for a variety of rainbow-colored ones. winked
    But seriously, 5 new missiles are a lot, even if not all will eventually fly. The prospect of their use is shrouded in darkness. Where and what they plan to send in such quantities is a mystery. Apparently, in the near future we should expect the militarization of space.
    1. Cyril Offline
      Cyril (Kirill) 16 July 2020 05: 26
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      Apparently, in the near future we should expect the militarization of space.

      You are late with this thought for about 50 years.
      1. 123 Offline
        123 (123) 16 July 2020 06: 18
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        You are late with this thought for years ... 50

        You have not yet realized what real militarization is.
        1. Cyril Offline
          Cyril (Kirill) 16 July 2020 11: 07
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          laughing No, this is your problem with the history of astronautics.
          1. 123 Offline
            123 (123) 16 July 2020 12: 44
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            no, it's your problem with the history of space

            You have problems with the "demigods", they are going to pull the arms race into space, and you need to somehow shield them, pretend that they are good elves. Otherwise, the foundations of faith will collapse.
            1. Cyril Offline
              Cyril (Kirill) 16 July 2020 13: 05
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              laughing Firstly, I do not need to block them, if only because I consider the militarization of outer space to be a normal and natural phenomenon. Moreover, the militarization of outer space will become one of the powerful impetus for the development of astronautics.

              Secondly, the arms race in space began as early as the 60s, when the Soviet Union developed and created partially-orbital bombardment systems that launched nuclear warheads into Earth orbit.

              As I said, you are 50 years behind in your thoughts)
              1. 123 Offline
                123 (123) 16 July 2020 14: 39
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                Firstly, I do not need to block them, if only because I consider the militarization of outer space to be a normal and natural phenomenon. Moreover, the militarization of outer space will become one of the powerful impetus for the development of astronautics.

                This is how much the brains need to be powdered so that a person rejoices in preparation for war. belay Are you not adequate at all? fool

                Secondly, the arms race in space began as early as the 60s, when the Soviet Union developed and created partially-orbital bombardment systems that launched nuclear warheads into Earth orbit.

                In the 60s? belay All space programs are a side effect of military preparations. Missiles, including ballistic missiles, were created to deliver weapons. The first was Nazi Germany, the USA took the baton from the hands of Von Braun, and literally, the first ballistic missile SM-65 Atlas entered service in 1959. In the same 1959, the United States launched the first reconnaissance satellite, Discoverer-1, as part of the Corona defense space program.
                Learn materiel negative
                1. Cyril Offline
                  Cyril (Kirill) 16 July 2020 15: 35
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                  This is how much the brains need to be powdered so that a person rejoices in preparation for war. Are you not adequate at all?

                  Where did you see the joy? It's just a sober look at the surrounding reality. There will always be wars - accordingly, there will always be the development of weapons systems and ways to use all available environments for conducting military operations (and space is just the same environment as the ocean, air or land). This is an inevitable fact. You just need to take off your cute pink glasses.

                  In the 60s?

                  Think, yes. In the 60s, a rocket with an orbital warhead R-36orb (8K69) was developed in the USSR. The first regiment took up combat duty in 1969 on the territory of NIIP-5.

                  Missiles, including ballistic missiles, were created to deliver weapons. The first was Nazi Germany, the USA took the baton from the hands of Von Braun, and literally, the first ballistic missile SM-65 Atlas entered service in 1959.

                  But a ballistic missile is not a space weapon)) We're talking about the militarization of space, aren't we?)

                  In the same 1959, the United States launched the first reconnaissance satellite, Discoverer-1, as part of the Corona defense space program.

                  Stop, you told me before about "real militarization")) And here is just a reconnaissance satellite.

                  You will decide. Or we are talking about any military space systems, including reconnaissance satellites - and then you were 60 years late with your exclamations. Either we are talking about space assets that made it possible to strike from outer space on the Earth or conduct battles in outer space - and then you were 50 years late with your exclamations about the "militarization of space"))
                  1. 123 Offline
                    123 (123) 16 July 2020 15: 47
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                    I have no desire to argue for days with a fanatic who clings to terms and formulations. hi
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                      Cyril (Kirill) 16 July 2020 15: 53
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                      clinging to terms and wording

                      laughing laughing That is, you do not know these very terms and formulations, of course)) But why then stick your nose there, which you don't know?
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                        123 (123) 16 July 2020 20: 22
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                        you don’t know these very terms and wordings, understandably)) But why then stick your nose there that you don’t know?

                        The world's first "space defense program" - this is the beginning of the arms race in space. What do you think is real militarization, I don’t really care, the opinion of the lysooblyudov and hangers-on serving overseas hosts does not matter to me.
                      2. Cyril Offline
                        Cyril (Kirill) 16 July 2020 21: 10
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                        The world's first "space defense program" - this is the beginning of the arms race in space

                        Finally, it began to reach you that you were a little late with your moans about the “imminent militarization of space”))
      2. 123 Offline
        123 (123) 16 July 2020 20: 48
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        I looked through the Internet, the CCS system (mobile terrestrial antennas, to suppress signals from one satellite) was brought to the working system. The Americans themselves are positioning it as a "new system of offensive weapons"

        https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/32570/space-force-just-received-its-first-new-offensive-weapon

        The Pentagon has signed a contract with Sierra Nevada Corporation to create a "mini-space station," I’m having trouble translating the Shooting Star, they call it an outpost and an outpost. These "huts" will fly in Earth orbit and near the moon, including manned missions. Plans are beginning to take shape, it becomes clear why they need so many manned ships and where they are going to fly.

        https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/34840/the-pentagon-moves-to-launch-its-own-experimental-mini-space-station

        It’s becoming impossible to lie about American elves peacefully exploring space, some Maskov fans change their shoes in the air and begin to tell that weapons in space are wonderful, they say, makes progress. Everything through and through is false, both the USA and local "policemen".
        1. Cyril Offline
          Cyril (Kirill) 17 July 2020 08: 32
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          It’s becoming impossible to lie about American elves peacefully exploring space

          laughing No one ever said that the Americans (like the USSR / Russia) are exploring space exclusively for peaceful purposes. Neither the Americans themselves, nor anyone else. You yourself have created some kind of false statement, which then boldly begins to “expose”. It happens that;)

          some Maskov lovers change their shoes in the air and begin to tell that weapons in space are wonderful, they say, makes progress.

          Estimate, yes - in the real world, and not in your pink universe, war is one of the main engines of progress. That's just the "mask lovers" do not change their shoes and talk about it openly. But “USSR lovers” - yes, they love to speculate about a “peaceful USSR”, which, however, did the same thing as the Americans.

          Everything through and through is false, both the USA and local "policemen".

          More, more high calm Soviet propaganda books of the Cold War, let's!))
          1. 123 Offline
            123 (123) 17 July 2020 08: 48
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            No one ever said that the Americans (like the USSR / Russia) are exploring space exclusively for peaceful purposes. Neither the Americans themselves, nor anyone else. You yourself have created some kind of false statement, which then boldly begins to “expose”. It happens that;)
            Estimate, yes - in the real world, and not in your pink universe, war is one of the main engines of progress. That's just the "mask lovers" do not change their shoes and talk about it openly. But “USSR lovers” - yes, they love to speculate about a “peaceful USSR”, which, however, did the same thing as the Americans.

            At every mention of the use of American military equipment, they tear their clothes together with their hair, claiming that this is not so, and Mask and the Pentagon are not doing business, and the USSR began an arms race in space. When the facts appear and the sewing in the bag can no longer be concealed, it suddenly turns out that the arms race in space is good and progressive. Why, then, so stubbornly denied the military thrust of the American space program? belay You just have to take one more step - to say that a blow to Russia is good, the land will be cleansed and free up space for your masters.

            More, more high calm Soviet propaganda books of the Cold War, let's!))

            The thing is that the same phenomenon is described, hence the similarity in the description.
            I wish you a successful existence in the role of Heavi.
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              Cyril (Kirill) 17 July 2020 09: 56
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              Musk and the Pentagon are not doing business

              laughing Again your fantasies)) Where did I say that?)

              and the arms race in space began the USSR

              Well, it’s true — before the Americans, the USSR began to develop its space program, which, as you correctly wrote in a moment of rare insight, was part of the military program. laughing

              Plus - you started broadcasting about "real militarization", and not me. I gave you an example of this "real militarization" in the form of Soviet orbital missile warheads.

              when the facts appear and the awl in the bag is no longer withheld

              These facts were a secret only for you - in view of your complete ignorance))

              Why, then, so stubbornly denied the military thrust of the American space program?

              When did I say that? O_o give me a quote))

              You just have to take one more step - to say that a blow to Russia is good, the land will be cleansed and free up space for your masters.

              And you just have to turn on the brain. But you have a problem with that.

              I wish you a successful existence in the role of Heavi.

              From you continuous emotions and no logic)) "hevi", "owners" ... that the Germans once plowed you, and now you can’t get rid of traumatic memories?)
              1. 123 Offline
                123 (123) 17 July 2020 10: 20
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                Your attempts at excuses look just pathetic. negative
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                  Cyril (Kirill) 17 July 2020 10: 21
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                  And your infantilism and attempts to shift your desire for a "master" onto me are simply ridiculous)
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    bubasa (Konstantin) 25 July 2020 21: 11
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    Where will they launch? Into the ocean? Good luck ;)