Israeli generals did not like the prospect of 500 T-90MS tanks appearing in Egypt


In Tel Aviv, with concern information about Cairo's planned large-scale modernization of its tank troops. Israeli generals did not like the prospect of the Egyptians having 500 Russian T-90MS tanks, Israel Defense writes.


Egypt wants to buy T-90MS tanks from Russia. Sources from the Israeli Ministry of Defense claim that if this is a real deal, it is a very alarming signal for Tel Aviv

- informs edition.

The publication notes that the Ministry of Defense and Military Industry of Egypt has signed a contract with JSC F. U. Dzerzhinsky Uralvagonzavod Scientific Industrial Corporation (UVZ, part of Rostec State Corporation) on the assembly of 500 licensed T-90MS tanks. According to the information received from sources in the Russian military-industrial complex, UVZ will build a plant for the assembly of military vehicles in Egypt. At the same time, there will be no complete localization of production in Egypt.

We remind you that recently the Minister of Transport of Egypt, Major General Kamel al-Wazir сообщил on Facebook that his country has concluded an agreement with the Russians on the organization of the production of 400-500 T-90MS tanks in Egyptian territory.
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  1. Warrior Offline Warrior
    Warrior 28 June 2020 20: 11
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    Since the Israelis DO NOT LIKE that their ENEMIES - Egyptians will have 500 Russian tanks - it means that Russia is doing it CORRECTLY ..
    1. Natan bruk Offline Natan bruk
      Natan bruk (Natan Bruk) 28 June 2020 20: 51
      -10 qualifying.
      ENEMY for Israel Egypt is only for those who have no idea about the topic. Israel has a peace with Egypt - diplomatic relations, trade, tourism. True, there is no hot embrace, but we do not need this. Not only that - there is military cooperation, - they help to drive terrorists in the Sinai with drones, of course, not really publicizing this help. Even with the "Muslim brothers" in the time of Mursi, there were no excesses. So it’s worth taking an interest in a subject about which you are going to write, before giving out hurray-nonsense.
      1. Piramidon Offline Piramidon
        Piramidon (Stepan) 29 June 2020 13: 52
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        Quote: Natan Bruk
        ENEMY for Israel Egypt is only for those who have no idea about the topic. Israel has a peace with Egypt - diplomatic relations, trade, tourism. True, there is no hot embrace, but we do not need this.

        If you are so smart and have an idea, then answer, why then do your Jewish generals "worry" and write about this in boiling water in your Israeli media?

        In Tel Aviv, they received with alarm the information about the large-scale modernization of their tank troops planned by Cairo. Israeli generals did not like the prospect of the Egyptians having 500 Russian T-90MS tanks, Israel Defense writes.
        1. Natan bruk Offline Natan bruk
          Natan bruk (Natan Bruk) 29 June 2020 14: 31
          -2
          “Generals are worried” and “write boiling water” only in the imagination of gullible readers of such news, based on the private opinion of some blogger and without reference to at least some sources. I regularly read the Israeli press and watch TV, and so far have not heard anything like it. So it’s stupidity. Yes, it is worth recalling - for any commissioning of military equipment, Egypt is seeking Israeli permission in accordance with the 1979 Peace Treaty. And so it was even during the reign of Mursi and the "Muslim brothers."
          1. Piramidon Offline Piramidon
            Piramidon (Stepan) 29 June 2020 16: 12
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            Quote: Natan Bruk
            without reference to at least some sources

            Open your eyes, Link is provided.

            writes edition Israel Defense

            And whether you love this edition or not is the third thing. You there in your "promised" constantly poke us with links to all sorts of "echo of matzo".
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        2. Natan bruk Offline Natan bruk
          Natan bruk (Natan Bruk) 29 June 2020 19: 42
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          I personally don’t poke anyone with any links, but I clearly say that this is a blogger’s private opinion published in the journal and not based on anything other than some unknown “sources”, which, apparently, do not exist. It is known that no protocol of intent was even signed, so what can we talk about?
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            1. Natan bruk Offline Natan bruk
              Natan bruk (Natan Bruk) 29 June 2020 21: 07
              +1
              To go nuts how scary :)))
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  3. vikganz Offline vikganz
    vikganz (Vik Ganz) 29 June 2020 18: 13
    -1
    Nathan, and this is written just in case. So, before making a decision, you have to think. Think about it well.
  4. meandr51 Offline meandr51
    meandr51 (Andrei) 11 July 2020 21: 48
    +1
    What, the refusal to enter Egypt for an Israeli visa in a passport has been canceled already?
    1. Natan bruk Offline Natan bruk
      Natan bruk (Natan Bruk) 11 July 2020 22: 20
      -1
      A long time ago.
  • cmonman Offline cmonman
    cmonman (Garik Mokin) 28 June 2020 20: 39
    -3
    Until now, Israel has won all the wars with Egypt, despite the Soviet tanks. And there will be no problems with the T-90 - you just need to open the production of the corresponding number of missiles. This is what Israel is worried about - it is necessary to splurge (you know, the Jews themselves!).
    And the fact that Russia will earn on tanks is good! Grandmas will buy Israeli vegetables / fruits. Or technology for the desalination of Crimea, or medicine, or ... but you never know what you can buy from Israel !!!
    1. Binder Offline Binder
      Binder (Miron) 28 June 2020 20: 57
      -7
      Israelis will not sell desalination technologies for Crimea for well-known reasons, and in general - let the Russians make money on Arabs, it’s not a pity ...
      1. Piramidon Offline Piramidon
        Piramidon (Stepan) 29 June 2020 16: 32
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        Quote: Bindyuzhnik
        Israelis won't sell desalination technologies for Crimea

        Purely Jewish mentality from you and rushing. Is it such a top-secret technology that only Jews own? We will somehow manage without you, "God's chosen ones". Crimea as a part of Bandera Ukraine, you still will not wait and do not even dream.
        1. Binder Offline Binder
          Binder (Miron) 29 June 2020 16: 44
          0
          There are no secrets in the industrial desalination of sea water, as I understand it. The Israelis will not sell them for the Crimea for the same reasons that no self-respecting company, even Russian mobile operators, has been operating in the Crimea after 2014.
          1. Piramidon Offline Piramidon
            Piramidon (Stepan) 29 June 2020 16: 58
            -1
            Quote: Bindyuzhnik
            The Israelis will not sell them for the Crimea

            Well, how do you want to shit people. Probably, you can’t eat your matzo quietly.
            1. Binder Offline Binder
              Binder (Miron) 29 June 2020 17: 00
              -3
              On the topic, is there something to say?
              1. Piramidon Offline Piramidon
                Piramidon (Stepan) 29 June 2020 17: 52
                0
                Quote: Bindyuzhnik
                On the topic, is there something to say?

                Well, if it doesn't reach you, it's not my fault.
                1. cmonman Offline cmonman
                  cmonman (Garik Mokin) 29 June 2020 19: 18
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                  You are to blame for interrupting people’s conversation!
                  1. plabu Offline plabu
                    plabu 29 June 2020 19: 34
                    -1
                    Is that what you decided? Here is your own decision and determine where you know? Or tell me? negative lol hi
                2. Binder Offline Binder
                  Binder (Miron) 29 June 2020 21: 32
                  -2
                  But where am I, the syroma, to penetrate the depths of thought of such an outstanding mind. bully
    2. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
      Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 29 June 2020 09: 03
      -3
      With this money, from the sale of anything useful to Russia, rockets will be produced. The balance and the cycle of tanks, rockets, money, vegetables / fruits in nature. So everything is all right, probably, except for the Egyptians, and only if they do not foolishly take any adventure once again?
    3. vikganz Offline vikganz
      vikganz (Vik Ganz) 29 June 2020 18: 16
      -1
      And if the T-90 also has the S-400, the Shell-C1, and what other equipment that Israel does not have and is not expected in the near future?
      1. Natan bruk Offline Natan bruk
        Natan bruk (Natan Bruk) 29 June 2020 19: 54
        +1
        Yes, even the death star. Firstly, even if during the reign of Mursi and the “Muslim brothers” there were no excesses between Israel and Egypt, now it is even more so. I'm not talking about the fact that Israel and Egypt are quite cooperating in the military sphere. Secondly, the technique in the hands of an Arab is a pile of metal. It has always been like this, it is the way it is now, and no help here helped them. Thirdly, I must surprise you - Israel does have a similar technique. "Merkava" is definitely no worse than the T-90, and maybe better, because it is serially installed KAZ, unlike Russian tanks. Israel does not need the S-400 for the reason that it has an Arrow-3, which is no worse, although it works on a different principle, that is, is geared to intercept ballistic missiles. Although it can work for aerodynamic purposes, but for this there are other systems and its own aviation, the level of which is an order of magnitude higher than that of potential enemies. Anyway, for you to know, Israeli air defense is one of the most advanced - there are 4 levels, and in the future there will be 5.
        1. Rashid116 Offline Rashid116
          Rashid116 (Rashid) 30 June 2020 11: 14
          -1
          Jewish Pontorez))))
          1. Natan bruk Offline Natan bruk
            Natan bruk (Natan Bruk) 30 June 2020 11: 15
            0
            Well, if there is nothing more to answer, then it will come off :)))
      2. Binder Offline Binder
        Binder (Miron) 29 June 2020 21: 36
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        Quote: vikganz
        And if the T-90 is also S-400, Shell C1 and what other equipment

        You know how to make laugh - take a pie from the shelf. lol And now the Shell can only be sold somewhere in Africa at the price of scrap metal, so that the parrots in the jungle would be scared away ... laughing
  • Natan bruk Offline Natan bruk
    Natan bruk (Natan Bruk) 28 June 2020 20: 45
    -7
    This is a blogger’s private opinion with reference to certain “sources” and nothing more. Under the 1979 agreement, Egypt can only transfer military equipment to the Sinai with the consent of Israel, since this is a demilitarized zone. As happened recently, when the Egyptians with the permission of Israel introduced equipment there to fight ISIS. Moreover, the Israelis helped them with the elimination of terrorists by drones (of course, not particularly publicizing it.) And the "Reporter" in its role - gives a loud heading that is not related to reality.
  • gorenina91 Online gorenina91
    gorenina91 (Irina) 29 June 2020 04: 16
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    Egypt wants to buy T-90MS tanks from Russia. Sources from the Israeli Ministry of Defense claim that if this is a real deal, it is a very alarming signal for Tel Aviv

    - Ha ... - Perhaps .. that personally I will support the author of this article and put him my plus ...
    - And then ... and then ... and then ... - I personally remember I’m here ... here ... here ... here recently in the subject:

    Impact site: Egypt is given a base near the Ethiopian dam

    - So personally, I have already mentioned in this thread both about Egypt, and Israel, and about the Egyptian military base that Egypt wanted to build near the dam in South Sudan ...
    - Personally, I said there that Israel would not like the "strengthening" of Egypt's influence in this region ... - So ... so the local Israelis on the website just showered me with their kippers; and they pulled out all the sidelocks on themselves when they were proving that: "And what has Israel to do with it !!! ... - Israel is not in business here !!! ..." ... etc ... - They wanted me laughingly ... - but now they themselves have gone out of their way ... - it turns out, even the supply of tanks and Egypt does not like Israel ... - so Israel, it turns out, is "worried about Egypt." not to be thrown about ...
    - As in the international proverb ...: "There is a time to throw bales (oh, well, stones - of course) ...: but there is a time to collect ki ... (ugh ... - here it is again) ... to collect stones "... - Something like that ... -Hahah ...
    1. Natan bruk Offline Natan bruk
      Natan bruk (Natan Bruk) 29 June 2020 06: 33
      -6
      What is your speech? Chronic stutter? And on the topic - "I do not like" the supply of tanks (about which so far only talk and no more), only to some blogger who refers to anonymous "sources" unknown to anyone.
      1. gorenina91 Online gorenina91
        gorenina91 (Irina) 29 June 2020 09: 04
        -3
        What is your speech? Chronic stutter?

        - Well, maybe you, too ...- "zaaiiiiikaetes" ... -So and what ??? - In this case, it will be easier for you to read my comments ...

        And on the topic - "I do not like" the supply of tanks (about which so far only talk and no more), only to some blogger who refers to anonymous "sources" unknown to anyone

        - Ha ...- yes we are all bloggers here ...- and we are talking ...
        - And Russia and Egypt are in real talks about supplies ...
        - And Egypt has long had the S-300VM (Antey-2500) air defense system; and Greece has the S-300; and India tearfully asks Russia to supply it with the S-400 ... - he is already urging Russia ... - And these are all the results of previous agreements ... - So Russian tanks will arrive in Egypt on time at the time that will be agreed ... - And Israel doesn't like it at all ... - Vaughn and the Israeli media "Israel Defense" themselves say about this:

        Egypt wants to buy T-90MS tanks from Russia. Sources from the Israeli Ministry of Defense claim that if this is a real deal, it is a very alarming signal for Tel Aviv

        - Well, everything is clear ... like a day ...
        - You ... why ... - again want to "leave in bales" ??? - Hahah ...
        1. Natan bruk Offline Natan bruk
          Natan bruk (Natan Bruk) 29 June 2020 10: 02
          -4
          What exactly is “clear as day”? There is not even a protocol of intent about these “deliveries”. This is nothing more than a private opinion of some blogger, which he embossed in a magazine with reference to anonymous "sources" unknown to anyone. And what can Israel like or dislike? He wrote already - since 1979, the Sinai has been a demilitarized zone and the entry of military equipment there is possible only with the permission of Israel. Egypt adheres to this treaty and has always adhered to it, even during the reign of Mursi and the "Muslim brothers." So all this is just another nonsense. This is Hahah.
          1. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
            Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 29 June 2020 11: 12
            -3
            "Girl" is in the clouds ...
          2. gorenina91 Online gorenina91
            gorenina91 (Irina) 29 June 2020 13: 51
            -3
            There is not even a protocol of intent about these “deliveries”. This is nothing more than private opinions.

            So all this is just plain nonsense

            - Well, "the next nonsense"; or "regular cleverness" ... - this is exactly what is a continuous "private opinion" ...
            - Personally, I think that ... that the next nonsense is to think that Egypt can invade Libya (this topic has already been) and start hostilities there ... - on its own Egyptian initiative, at least ... - This is really "bullshit" ... - But personally, I believe that in extreme cases, Israeli aviation can very simply "selectively strike" in Libya; and Israel itself, through a number of political scams and provocations, can nevertheless induce Egypt to invade Libya ...
            - Oh, yes ... - Israel needs peace, and Israel is always for peace ... - that's why Israel is quite satisfied with the "constant state of war with Syria" ... - you can always selectively deliver air strikes on the territory of Syria .. .- and the purpose and reason is very easy to come up with ... -Hahah ...
            - Israel itself is very, very much waiting and hoping that the United States will somehow begin to "exert military influence" on Iran (I do not argue that it would be beneficial for Russia as well) ... - And Israel is afraid of Iran more and more. .. But, alas ...- what can you do ...- once the Americans got the slobber Trump; who lost the confrontation with China, and very much weakened its positions in the Middle. East ...
            - And it is only necessary for the United States to really "set its tail" in the Middle. East and ... and then Israel will have to curl its tail ...
            - So we need it today in the Middle. In the East, there is such a mediocre (not big and not small) local war (for a start, a local one will come down ... - and then how will it turn out) ... - And in this war Israel will go "all-in" ... - here how there would be two ways for Israel;
            - if the United States is tightly involved in this conflict (and begins to help with weapons and money; and even better, they themselves will directly participate in the hostilities) ... - Israel won;
            - and if this does not happen (which is quite possible under Trump); then Israel lost ... - in the Near. The role of Turkey will increase in the east; Iran, etc. etc ...- what has already begun to happen ... - So it is very desirable for Israel if the American Jews remove Trump and appoint another president ... - But this is a completely different story ...
            1. Natan bruk Offline Natan bruk
              Natan bruk (Natan Bruk) 29 June 2020 16: 08
              -2
              Girl, would you first familiarize yourself with the history of the Arab-Israeli wars, perhaps, for example, with the Six Day War of 1967, when Israel defeated the armies of 6 Arab states in these 5 days. The United States then helped Israel a little less than nothing. And this despite the fact that the Arabs, of course, had a multiple advantage and all-round help of the "great-mighty".
              1. gorenina91 Online gorenina91
                gorenina91 (Irina) 29 June 2020 16: 44
                -2
                You would first familiarize yourself with the history of the Arab-Israeli wars, perhaps, for example, with the Six Day War of 1967, when Israel defeated the armies of 6 Arab states in these 5 days.

                - Exactly ... - it has become history ...
                - And today there is a completely different situation ... - and the Arabs have already learned to fight "in a Jewish way" ... - Yes, even today the ISIS and other rabble are fighting in a completely different way ...
                - That Israeli aviation will shoot like sparrows from a cannon at numerous mobile cars in the steppe ??? - Yes break off fly and bomb ...
                - And all those victorious Israeli wars were very, very "short-term" ... - just a few days and ... and - "Hurray ... - victory !!!"
                - Israel is used to winning by knockout in the first round ... - But it was like that before ... - What if it will be 12 rounds ??? - What if today Israel will have to "fight longer" ... - Is Israel sharpened and capable of a long war ??? - And the Arab and other insurgents are tuned in to long wars and not to attacks head-on; namely, on bases and on provocations and on ambushes ... - And these are professionals ...
                - And it’s good when there is a real adversary and his real visible army ...
                - And if it’s hundreds of thousands of dispersed and well-trained and able to fight bandits ... and they do not stand in one place ... - Which cannot be covered with one blow ...
                - Israel is simply tormented to send its helicopters and bombers for these purposes ... - whom to bomb ... and where to send the commandos - if they are sprayed by enemies; to gather again instantly ..
                - Yes, and the darkness has spread out of missiles ... - And this "Iron Dome" over Israel ... - partly the same legend as about "Shells" and other "panaceas" for all ills ... - several repeated massive strikes and this dome - may well collapse ... - Several distracting and systematically repeated provocative and imitation attacks; with a change in the range of strikes ... and constantly twitching frequencies, and powerful jamming with simultaneous incessant strikes - imitation distractions and real missiles for different purposes and ... and the dome will crack ...
                - Anyway ... - when a small state literally sleeps "with a pistol under the pillow" ... sooner or later this "pistol" can let him down ...
                - So you shouldn't be so relying on "history" ... - this story may no longer have a happy ending ...
                1. Natan bruk Offline Natan bruk
                  Natan bruk (Natan Bruk) 29 June 2020 16: 58
                  -1
                  Girl, you seem to live in a parallel reality that you invented. Today, Israel has practically no real enemies, except for Syria, which will not reconcile itself with reality and its patron Iran, who perfectly understand that they have no chance against Israel, which today is incomparably better armed than in those days. The rest doesn’t even think of fighting against Israel in any way. And in what place did the Arabs "learn to fight"? In wars among themselves? So this is not at all what to fight against Israel. And what kind of “insurgents in the steppe” are you talking about? Where do they come from? Shabak controls its Arabs tightly, and the borders of Israel are not borders between European countries or an imaginary line in the desert. There are electronic systems, and there are also minefields on the Syrian border. And not so long ago, Iranian forces in Syria launched several missiles at the Hermon ski resort - all missiles were shot down, and a powerful missile and bomb strike was launched in response. After that they sit quietly, like a mouse under a broom.
                  1. gorenina91 Online gorenina91
                    gorenina91 (Irina) 29 June 2020 17: 18
                    -1
                    And not so long ago, Iranian forces in Syria launched several missiles at the Hermon ski resort - all missiles were shot down, and a powerful missile and bomb strike was launched in response, after which they sit quietly like a mouse under a broom.

                    - Well ... and away we go, and went ...
                    - Personally, I thought you would tell something real and new ...
                    - And all of you are in this old tune ... - No one has seriously studied Israel recently ... - He became like "elusive Joe" ... - Personally, I have already written more than once that Israel and the It inflicts on Syria only to remind itself of itself as "mighty" and "invulnerable" .. - And it inflicts - so lightly, slowly, so as not to cause "righteous anger" ...
                    - Well, hope to continue ... on this ... - How long ... - all this "invulnerability" ... ???
                    - Okay - this is where we will end ...
                    1. Tramp1812 Offline Tramp1812
                      Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 29 June 2020 18: 02
                      -1
                      Personally, I thought you were going to tell something real and new ...

                      First of all, the solar plexus of the planet, which is the Middle East, should not be reduced to a banal confrontation between Egypt and Israel. It is full of duelists without Jerusalem. Russia-USA, Turkey-Kurds, Iran-CA, Shiite-Sunnis, Qatar-OAU. The borders of the BV countries themselves are artificially cut after the First World War. What else de Gaulle noted. Israel is one of the key and most interested players in this theater of war. But not the only one. And he skillfully plays on the contradictions between the players. I completely agree with the opinions of those who rightly note the absence of sources on the submitted news. To scare Israel T-90 is not serious. During the Yom Kippur War, Soviet tanks, including those in the Golan, were beaten by Western equipment. In the southern sector of the Golan, a brave professional, 38-year-old Colonel Yitzhak Shokham, just shot the T-72 from 2 km in a dash, while the Syrians tried to break through the Israeli defenses, in particular to overcome the anti-tank moat. The Syrians began to maneuver, crumple, and hit the minefield. And their Egyptian counterparts were torn apart by Jewish tankers in Sinai, the largest tank battle in the history of mankind since the battle at Prokhorovka. There are early warning stations and Americans in the Sinai. Like the UN troops at one time. So do not scare the Jewish hedgehog loin part of the body of the Egyptian enemy. But just at that time, another piece of news was actively circulating in the Israeli press. Iran’s largest secret underground missile plant and depot flew into the air yesterday. For the production of rockets. Not a word about that. Including in Tehran. Because again deuce. And you say - tanks of Egypt. S-300 have already shown themselves. Apparently, the turn of the tanks. )
                      1. gorenina91 Online gorenina91
                        gorenina91 (Irina) 29 June 2020 18: 33
                        +1
                        - Yes, it's all yesterday ...- how can you still not understand it ???
                        -Well, there is commercial fraud; there is fraud in the conclusion of contracts; there is a fraud in the supply of goods ... - And there is a fraud in conducting a provocative lightning war ... - and it works ... - But it works only with the "appropriate enemy" ... - This worked for Israel in the war with Egypt and Arabs ...
                        - But this did not work for Hitler with Russia (USSR) ... the "blitzkrieg" did not work ...
                        - Yes, and Israel would not work with Russia ... - And not because Israel is small, but Russia is large ... - It's completely different ... - Even if Israel would inflict a monstrous defeat on Russia, and in a tank battle, and would repeat the "meat grinder" that took place in the 80s of the last century, then ... - it would not be a victory for Israel ... - the next day would come, or rather, the next week or even the next ... - and everything would change radically ... - Personally, I'm just sure of that ...
                        - So Israel can be hoped for a fraud in the war, but you should be afraid of the coming weeks if there was no victory by knockout ...
                        - The mistake for Israel will be just awful ...

                        Iran’s largest secret underground missile plant and storage facilities flew into the air yesterday.

                        - This is news ... - it is a sin to rejoice in this ... - But Iran is a genie that simply cannot be let out of the vessel ...
                      2. Tramp1812 Offline Tramp1812
                        Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 29 June 2020 20: 11
                        +1
                        - Yes, it's all yesterday ...- how can you not understand everything ???

                        - Well, there is fraud in commercial activities; there is fraud in the conclusion of contracts; there is a fraud in the supply of goods ... - And there is a fraud in conducting a provocative lightning war ... - and it works ... - But it works only with the "appropriate adversary" ..- This worked for Israel in the war with Egypt and the Arabs ...

                        Let's work on the bugs. Yours. First of all, advice: do not use terminology that you do not have the slightest idea. This is the question of fraud. Fraud is one of the forms of theft, which differs from, say, robbery or theft, only in the objective side of the crime. Therefore, initially, there can be no a priori fraud when concluding contracts, commercial activities, and the supply of goods. Since any theft, including in the form of fraud, without fail provides for the illegality of the seizure and gratuitous appropriation of the subject of theft. With deception in fact or subject. So the parcels cited by you are devoid of legal content. "I wonder, Alice thought, at what latitude and longitude I am? - Alice did not know the meaning of these words, but they sounded so solid and impressive (L. Carroll). On them you are trying to build the conclusion that, they say, Israel won the war fraudulently And again, past the pocket, alas. Moreover, the cloth of the billiard table was torn. First of all: which of the Arab aggression against Israel are we talking about? In 1948, Israel was attacked by five Arab countries, in 1956, terrorist actions against Israel from the territory Egypt, were the casus belli. And although Israel left Sinai, the UN recognized its innocence by introducing a special contingent of “blue helmets.” 1967. Egypt blocks the Strait of Tirana, which according to international law is casus belli, introduces troops to Sinai, concludes treaties of war against Israel with Jordan and Syria. The armies of Egypt, Syria and Jordan on the one hand, and the IDF on the other, have stood in full combat readiness against each other since May 15. What blitzkrieg can we talk about? already wrote above. Reread. Blitzkrieg...
                        In 1973, already 22 countries took part in the blitzkrieg against Israel. Including the military contingents of Cuba, Pakistan, SA, Kuwait, Morocco and even Uganda .... Moreover, Israel was really taken by surprise. This was an attempt at a blitzkrieg, with the absolute superiority of Israel's opponents. Israel fought no other wars. There were separate local operations, such as Medvedka 19, with the total defeat of the Syrian Air Force and Air Defense. So the basis of the post is slightly inflated with pathos and as empty as a hundred pounds of smoke.
                        Arguments about what would have happened if ... pseudo-historical. VVP on this very occasion told the Russian parable about grandfather and grandmother. Israel is one of the most developed states on the planet, with a powerful diaspora. The USSR could afford to fight such an enemy. But Glory to Gd, not entirely successful. Parfenov in his film "Russian Jews" remarked very meaningfully: "But the Soviet government did not understand what kind of enemy in the person of Israel it received." In 1990, it was all over.
                        And about the Iranian genie, which can not be let out of the bottle. In the case of the Iranian factory, it is very possible to let go. Into the air. Maybe catch my breath and change my mind. And it rushed nobly. Tens of kilometers of underground utilities, all assembly shops, with all the arsenal of missiles. Apparently, safety precautions were violated when working with explosives, as Israeli experts believe ....))
                  2. Natan bruk Offline Natan bruk
                    Natan bruk (Natan Bruk) 29 June 2020 19: 31
                    -1
                    Yes, yes, we’ll better end it, you’ll still remain in your parallel reality :))) Although it’s still interesting - who should seriously deal with Israel? Those to whom he interfered already tried - each time they got together and each time received a lyule, even despite the full help of the "great-mighty". And how can one strike in order to allegedly “remind oneself” if these attacks are never recognized by Israel. The Iranians and their tame terrorists in Syria, who only die from these attacks? No, I didn’t hear :)))
                2. vikganz Offline vikganz
                  vikganz (Vik Ganz) 29 June 2020 19: 20
                  0
                  And who is fighting with ISIS? Martians. Clear. The Syrians, like the Israelis, were taught to fight by the Russian military. NATO people do not know how to fight against a well-trained army. Their lot is Afghans and Yemenis with machine guns. Here they are heroes.
                  Both Iranians and Syrians are pretty decent at war. And if you put them more Russian equipment, then how to determine who is stronger, Arabs or Israelis?
                  1. Natan bruk Offline Natan bruk
                    Natan bruk (Natan Bruk) 29 June 2020 19: 36
                    -2
                    And what did the Syrians fight in the wars of 1967 and 1973? I’ll tell you a secret - Soviet. And in 1973, the "great-mighty" himself participated directly. Tell me how it all ended or take an interest in yourself? And this is called "decently to fight"?
                  2. Binder Offline Binder
                    Binder (Miron) 29 June 2020 21: 46
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                    Quote: vikganz
                    The Syrians, like the Israelis, were taught to fight by the Russian military.

                    This is when the Russian military taught the Israelis to fight? Read you - so Zhvanetsky is resting! laughing
                3. Rashid116 Offline Rashid116
                  Rashid116 (Rashid) 30 June 2020 11: 24
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                  Looks like a Jew doesn’t care what kind of sheet he is sculpting))) I just don’t understand - is he trying to scare us or wants to calm himself down?
      2. Binder Offline Binder
        Binder (Miron) 29 June 2020 17: 17
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        Quote: gorenina91
        Egypt wants to buy T-90MS tanks from Russia. Sources from the Israeli Ministry of Defense say that if this is a real deal, it is a very alarming signal for Tel Aviv.

        - Well, everything is clear ... like a day ...

        This is with a 150% probability a normal fake. Well, judge, why would the Israeli generals be worried about the hypothetical purchase of 400-500 T-90MS tanks by Egypt, if the Egyptians already have 1100 M1A1 Abrams, I will not say anything about about 3000 outdated tanks, partially in storage. ..
        1. gorenina91 Online gorenina91
          gorenina91 (Irina) 29 June 2020 17: 46
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          Well, judge, why would the Israeli generals show concern about the hypothetical acquisition of 400-500 T-90MS tanks by Egypt, if the Egyptians already have 1100 M1A1 Abrams?

          - Yes, but what ... what ... that Egypt is showing "independence" and "inconsistency" with Israel .... is Israel satisfied with it ???
          - And this is what ??? ..- Your fellow countryman here leads:

          Under the 1979 agreement, Egypt can only transfer military equipment to the Sinai with the consent of Israel, since this is a demilitarized zone. As happened recently, when the Egyptians with the permission of Israel introduced equipment there to fight ISIS.

          - So ... - is that ???

          ..only with the consent of Israel "," What happened recently, when the Egyptians with the permission of Israel "

          - And here Egypt also decided to buy tanks "without demand"; and then the S-400 will also want ... - This is the number ...
          - Personally, I already wrote about how Israel "worries" about Egypt ...
          - The reason is ...
          1. Binder Offline Binder
            Binder (Miron) 30 June 2020 04: 34
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            Quote: gorenina91
            And then Egypt also decided to purchase tanks "without demand"

            The Israeli tankers have a saying that in my translation from Hebrew sounds like this:

            A tank is just a piece of iron, but people are harder than steel.

            That is why the Israelis beat, beat and will always beat their enemies, no matter what weapon they arm.
            1. magma Offline magma
              magma (Tatyana) 1 July 2020 07: 53
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              That is why the Israelis beat, beat and will always beat their enemies, no matter what weapon they arm.

              lol Do you happen to work as a kindergarten teacher?
              1. Binder Offline Binder
                Binder (Miron) 2 July 2020 05: 06
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                It seems, madam, that you still live in the kindergarten sandbox. wink
  • vikganz Offline vikganz
    vikganz (Vik Ganz) 29 June 2020 18: 20
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    You know, Irina, I don’t know what you really need to deliver. And who are you for?
    Or a Jew herself? Joke.
    1. gorenina91 Online gorenina91
      gorenina91 (Irina) 29 June 2020 19: 02
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      You know, Irina, I don’t know what you really need to deliver. And who are you for?
      Or a Jew herself? Joke.

      - Personally, I ... is the one who never believed; I do not believe: and I will never believe in the genius of the Jews ... - Would write "more" and more ... mmmm ... no longer tolerant, but I will be banned for political incorrectness ...
      - Personally, I am Russian; baptized in the Russian Orthodox Old Believers Church ... - But Old Believers up to the seventh generation (and beyond) know their genealogy ...
      - Well, but you can consider me anyone (I mean nationality) ...- personally, I will not be offended ... - Hahah ...
      1. Rashid116 Offline Rashid116
        Rashid116 (Rashid) 30 June 2020 11: 35
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        Here I agree with Gorenina (about the genius and courage of the Jewish people). In his youth, when the asphalt was divided, it was "pleasure" to bite with them. The meaner and more cowardly I have not seen people, and everything is transferred to the grandmother.
  • 123 Offline 123
    123 (123) 29 June 2020 14: 45
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    Why are the Americans silent? Usually they didn’t like all the deliveries of Russian weapons, but then silence. request
    Maybe they are not up to it now?
    1. vikganz Offline vikganz
      vikganz (Vik Ganz) 29 June 2020 18: 23
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      They seem to have given up. The Negroes set an ultimatum for them.
      Yes, blacks, and this is not at all offensive "nickname". This is a statement of fact. A black man is a black man.
      And as for the slaves, I have nothing to do with them.
      1. 123 Offline 123
        123 (123) 29 June 2020 18: 54
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        They seem to have given up. The Negroes set an ultimatum for them.

        Maybe you are right, and they really are not up to it. They say that forecasts for the economy - 40% for June came true.
  • mikado68 Offline mikado68
    mikado68 (Rasul) 29 June 2020 19: 39
    +2
    Enemy number 1 for Egypt is Erdoganov’s Turkey.
    1. Tramp1812 Offline Tramp1812
      Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 29 June 2020 20: 42
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      Quote: mikado68
      Enemy number 1 for Egypt is Erdoganov’s Turkey.

      Enemy number 1 is not only for Egypt, but also for Syria, Greece, Armenia, the Kurds. Enemy number 2 for Iran, without exception, all Arab countries. And for the Russian Federation and Israel, it’s definitely not a friend.
      1. Rashid116 Offline Rashid116
        Rashid116 (Rashid) 30 June 2020 13: 35
        -3
        And Israel is not our friend — that’s for sure, too.
        1. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
          Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 30 June 2020 18: 49
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          To you, who is this?
          1. Rashid116 Offline Rashid116
            Rashid116 (Rashid) 30 June 2020 20: 16
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            Nam - this is Nam, hang out, Jew.
            1. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
              Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 1 July 2020 11: 58
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              To us, to you, once again, to whom do you? Didn’t start talking? Do you take a lot on yourself?
              1. Rashid116 Offline Rashid116
                Rashid116 (Rashid) 2 July 2020 08: 52
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                Normally I take upon myself what I wanted, a Jew?
                1. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
                  Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 2 July 2020 13: 18
                  +1
                  I recall a very famous story told by one of the "fathers" of Soviet psychiatry, Mikhail Osipovich Gurevich.

                  At a lecture on Alzheimer's disease, a patient with this serious disease was demonstrated. Let's call it purely conditionally "Rashid".
                  He could not give his name, nor the date, nor the season, but when asked who had brought him to the hospital, he replied with unexpectedly conscious malice: "Jews."
                  The professor turned to the audience and remarked:
                  "You see how little intelligence is needed to be an anti-Semite" ...

                  So, only an individual who shoveled the entire world anti-Semitic literature, could start to move his brains on this basis, which is what a vivid example are for you.
        2. Tramp1812 Offline Tramp1812
          Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 30 June 2020 21: 59
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          Quote: Rashid116
          And Israel is not our friend — that’s for sure, too.

          Who would argue? Especially with the radical Islamist.
          1. Rashid116 Offline Rashid116
            Rashid116 (Rashid) 2 July 2020 08: 59
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            I recognize a Jew with a crystal ball, well, to read thoughts)))) I actually have a Russian wife, two children, I speak Tatar badly (to my shame, there’s no time to tighten my tongue). So, the Islamist from me none, but of you psychic is even worse))))
            1. Tramp1812 Offline Tramp1812
              Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 2 July 2020 09: 58
              +1
              Quote: Rashid116
              I recognize a Jew with a crystal ball, well, to read thoughts)))) I actually have a Russian wife, two kids, I speak Tatar badly (to my shame, there’s no time to tighten my tongue). So, the Islamist is none of me, but of you the psychic is even worse))))

              Dudaev is also Russian. So, judge not by their words, but by their deeds.
              To take the liberty and assert that (your quote) "I have never met people more mean and cowardly", or "Israel is not our friend" - this is a typical set of an anti-Semite - a radical Islamist-fascist. Moreover, an illiterate one. Take a look at the statistics about Jewish military prowess and intelligence. And in general, as Russian wisdom says, you are on the site as an uninvited guest ...
              1. Rashid116 Offline Rashid116
                Rashid116 (Rashid) 3 July 2020 07: 41
                +1
                That's why I disdain to communicate with the Jews-stupid and boring. One came up with some kind of garbage and dumped it)))) Another beguiled tramp tells me where to express his opinion))) And actually, it says Russian, and maybe Tatar wisdom: don’t tell me what to do - I won’t tell you where you go.
                1. Natan bruk Offline Natan bruk
                  Natan bruk (Natan Bruk) 11 July 2020 22: 29
                  -1
                  So don’t say it until you have been told where to go.
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