Israeli generals did not like the prospect of 500 T-90MS tanks appearing in Egypt


In Tel Aviv, with concern information about Cairo's planned large-scale modernization of its tank troops. Israeli generals did not like the prospect of the Egyptians having 500 Russian T-90MS tanks, Israel Defense writes.


Egypt wants to buy T-90MS tanks from Russia. Sources from the Israeli Ministry of Defense claim that if this is a real deal, it is a very alarming signal for Tel Aviv

- informs edition.

The publication notes that the Ministry of Defense and Military Industry of Egypt has signed a contract with JSC F. U. Dzerzhinsky Uralvagonzavod Scientific Industrial Corporation (UVZ, part of Rostec State Corporation) on the assembly of 500 licensed T-90MS tanks. According to the information received from sources in the Russian military-industrial complex, UVZ will build a plant for the assembly of military vehicles in Egypt. At the same time, there will be no complete localization of production in Egypt.

We remind you that recently the Minister of Transport of Egypt, Major General Kamel al-Wazir сообщил on Facebook that his country has concluded an agreement with the Russians on the organization of the production of 400-500 T-90MS tanks in Egyptian territory.
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  1. Warrior Offline
    Warrior 28 June 2020 20: 11
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    Since the Israelis DO NOT LIKE that their ENEMIES - Egyptians will have 500 Russian tanks - it means that Russia is doing it CORRECTLY ..
    1. Natan bruk Online
      Natan bruk (Natan Bruk) 28 June 2020 20: 51
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      ENEMY for Israel Egypt is only for those who have no idea about the topic. Israel has a peace with Egypt - diplomatic relations, trade, tourism. True, there is no hot embrace, but we do not need this. Not only that - there is military cooperation, - they help to drive terrorists in the Sinai with drones, of course, not really publicizing this help. Even with the "Muslim brothers" in the time of Mursi, there were no excesses. So it’s worth taking an interest in a subject about which you are going to write, before giving out hurray-nonsense.
      1. Piramidon Offline
        Piramidon (Stepan) 29 June 2020 13: 52
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        Quote: Natan Bruk
        ENEMY for Israel Egypt is only for those who have no idea about the topic. Israel has a peace with Egypt - diplomatic relations, trade, tourism. True, there is no hot embrace, but we do not need this.

        If you are so smart and have a concept, then answer, why then do your Jewish generals "worry" and write boiling water in your Israeli media about this?

        In Tel Aviv, they received with alarm the information about the large-scale modernization of their tank troops planned by Cairo. Israeli generals did not like the prospect of the Egyptians having 500 Russian T-90MS tanks, Israel Defense writes.
        1. Natan bruk Online
          Natan bruk (Natan Bruk) 29 June 2020 14: 31
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          “Generals are worried” and “write boiling water” only in the imagination of gullible readers of such news, based on the private opinion of some blogger and without reference to at least some sources. I regularly read the Israeli press and watch TV, and so far have not heard anything like it. So it’s stupidity. Yes, it is worth recalling - for any commissioning of military equipment, Egypt is seeking Israeli permission in accordance with the 1979 Peace Treaty. And so it was even during the reign of Mursi and the "Muslim brothers."
          1. Piramidon Offline
            Piramidon (Stepan) 29 June 2020 16: 12
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            Quote: Natan Bruk
            without reference to at least some sources

            Open your eyes, Link is provided.

            writes edition Israel Defense

            And whether you like this publication or not, the third thing. You are there in your "promised" constantly poking us with links to all sorts of "echo matzah."
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        2. Natan bruk Online
          Natan bruk (Natan Bruk) 29 June 2020 19: 42
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          I personally don’t poke anyone with any links, but I clearly say that this is a blogger’s private opinion published in the journal and not based on anything other than some unknown “sources”, which, apparently, do not exist. It is known that no protocol of intent was even signed, so what can we talk about?
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            1. Natan bruk Online
              Natan bruk (Natan Bruk) 29 June 2020 21: 07
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              To go nuts how scary :)))
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  3. vikganz Offline
    vikganz (Vik Ganz) 29 June 2020 18: 13
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    Nathan, and this is just in case written. In order to make a decision, you have to think. Think about it well.
  • cmonman Offline
    cmonman (Garik Mokin) 28 June 2020 20: 39
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    Until now, Israel has won all the wars with Egypt, despite the Soviet tanks. And there will be no problems with the T-90 - you just need to open the production of the corresponding number of missiles. This is what Israel is worried about - it is necessary to splurge (you know, the Jews themselves!).
    And the fact that Russia will earn on tanks is good! Grandmas will buy Israeli vegetables / fruits. Or technology for the desalination of Crimea, or medicine, or ... but you never know what you can buy from Israel !!!
    1. Binder Offline
      Binder (Miron) 28 June 2020 20: 57
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      Israelis will not sell desalination technologies for Crimea for well-known reasons, and in general - let the Russians make money on Arabs, it’s not a pity ...
      1. Piramidon Offline
        Piramidon (Stepan) 29 June 2020 16: 32
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        Quote: Bindyuzhnik
        Israelis won't sell desalination technologies for Crimea

        Purely Jewish mentality of you and rushing. Are these top-secret technologies that only Jews own? Without you, the "chosen ones", we’ll manage somehow. Crimea as part of Bandera Ukraine, you still can’t wait and do not even dream.
        1. Binder Offline
          Binder (Miron) 29 June 2020 16: 44
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          There are no secrets in the industrial desalination of sea water, as I understand it. The Israelis will not sell them for the Crimea for the same reasons that no self-respecting company, even Russian mobile operators, has been operating in the Crimea after 2014.
          1. Piramidon Offline
            Piramidon (Stepan) 29 June 2020 16: 58
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            Quote: Bindyuzhnik
            The Israelis will not sell them for the Crimea

            Well, how do you want to shit people. Probably, you can’t eat your matzo quietly.
            1. Binder Offline
              Binder (Miron) 29 June 2020 17: 00
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              On the topic, is there something to say?
              1. Piramidon Offline
                Piramidon (Stepan) 29 June 2020 17: 52
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                Quote: Bindyuzhnik
                On the topic, is there something to say?

                Well, if it doesn't reach you, it's not my fault.
                1. cmonman Offline
                  cmonman (Garik Mokin) 29 June 2020 19: 18
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                  You are to blame for interrupting people’s conversation!
                  1. 321 Offline
                    321 (321) 29 June 2020 19: 34
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                    Is that what you decided? Here is your own decision and determine where you know? Or tell me? negative lol hi
                2. Binder Offline
                  Binder (Miron) 29 June 2020 21: 32
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                  But where am I, the syroma, to penetrate the depths of thought of such an outstanding mind. bully
    2. Arkharov Offline
      Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 29 June 2020 09: 03
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      With this money, from the sale of anything useful to Russia, rockets will be produced. The balance and the cycle of tanks, rockets, money, vegetables / fruits in nature. So everything is all right, probably, except for the Egyptians, and only if they do not foolishly take any adventure once again?
    3. vikganz Offline
      vikganz (Vik Ganz) 29 June 2020 18: 16
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      And if the T-90 also has the S-400, the Shell-C1, and what other equipment that Israel does not have and is not expected in the near future?
      1. Natan bruk Online
        Natan bruk (Natan Bruk) 29 June 2020 19: 54
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        Yes, even the death star. Firstly, even if during the reign of Mursi and the “Muslim brothers” there were no excesses between Israel and Egypt, now it is even more so. I'm not talking about the fact that Israel and Egypt are quite cooperating in the military sphere. Secondly, the technique in the hands of an Arab is a pile of metal. It has always been like this, it is the way it is now, and no help here helped them. Thirdly, I must surprise you - Israel does have a similar technique. "Merkava" is definitely no worse than the T-90, and maybe better, because it is serially installed KAZ, unlike Russian tanks. Israel does not need the S-400 for the reason that it has an Arrow-3, which is no worse, although it works on a different principle, that is, is geared to intercept ballistic missiles. Although it can work for aerodynamic purposes, but for this there are other systems and its own aviation, the level of which is an order of magnitude higher than that of potential enemies. Anyway, for you to know, Israeli air defense is one of the most advanced - there are 4 levels, and in the future there will be 5.
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          Rashid116 (Rashid) 30 June 2020 11: 14
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          Jewish Pontorez))))
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            Natan bruk (Natan Bruk) 30 June 2020 11: 15
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            Well, if there is nothing more to answer, then it will come off :)))
      2. Binder Offline
        Binder (Miron) 29 June 2020 21: 36
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        Quote: vikganz
        And if the T-90 is also S-400, Shell C1 and what other equipment

        You know how to make laugh - take a pie from the shelf. lol And now the Shell can only be sold somewhere in Africa at the price of scrap metal, so that the parrots in the jungle would be scared away ... laughing
  • Natan bruk Online
    Natan bruk (Natan Bruk) 28 June 2020 20: 45
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    This is a blogger’s private opinion with reference to certain “sources” and nothing more. Under the 1979 agreement, Egypt can only transfer military equipment to the Sinai with the consent of Israel, since this is a demilitarized zone. As happened recently, when the Egyptians with the permission of Israel introduced equipment there to fight ISIS. Moreover, the Israelis helped them with the elimination of terrorists by drones (of course, not particularly publicizing it.) And the "Reporter" in its role - gives a loud heading that is not related to reality.
  • gorenina91 Offline
    gorenina91 (Irina) 29 June 2020 04: 16
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    Egypt wants to buy T-90MS tanks from Russia. Sources from the Israeli Ministry of Defense claim that if this is a real deal, it is a very alarming signal for Tel Aviv

    - Ha ... - Perhaps .. that personally I will support the author of this article and put him my plus ...
    - And then ... and then ... and then ... - I personally remember I’m here ... here ... here ... here recently in the subject:

    Impact site: Egypt is given a base near the Ethiopian dam

    - So personally, I have already mentioned in this thread both about Egypt, and Israel, and about the Egyptian military base that Egypt wanted to build near the dam in South Sudan ...
    - Personally, I spoke out there that Israel would not like the "strengthening" of Egypt's influence in this region ... - So ... so the local Israelite Sites in Israel simply threw me into their bales; and they pulled out all the paisans on themselves when they proved that: "And where is Israel !!! ... - Israel is out of business !!! ..." ... etc ... - They wanted me raise a laugh ... -but now they themselves have gone crazy ... - it turns out that Israel does not like the delivery of tanks and Egypt ... - so Israel, it turns out, is "worried about Egypt." do not scatter things ...
    - Like in an international proverb ...: "There is time to throw bales (oh, well, stones - of course) ...: but there is time to collect ki ... (pah ...- here again) ... collect stones "... - Something like that ... -Hahah ...
    1. Natan bruk Online
      Natan bruk (Natan Bruk) 29 June 2020 06: 33
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      What is your speech? Chronic stutter? And on the topic - "I do not like" the supply of tanks (about which so far only talk and no more), only to some blogger who refers to anonymous "sources" unknown to anyone.
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        gorenina91 (Irina) 29 June 2020 09: 04
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        What is your speech? Chronic stutter?

        - Well, maybe you too ...- "soooooooooooooooo ..." -So what ??? - In this case, it will be easier for you to read my comments yourself ...

        And on the topic - "I do not like" the supply of tanks (about which so far only talk and no more), only to some blogger who refers to anonymous "sources" unknown to anyone

        - Ha ...- yes we are all bloggers here ...- and we are talking ...
        - And Russia and Egypt are in real talks about supplies ...
        - And Egypt has long had an S-300VM (Antei-2500); and Greece has an S-300; and India tearfully asks Russia to deliver her an S-400 ... - Already rushing Russia ... - And these are all the results of previous agreements ... -So that Russian tanks will arrive on time in Egypt on time, which will be persuaded ... - And Israel does not like this at all ...- The Israeli Defense Israel media outlets themselves say this:

        Egypt wants to buy T-90MS tanks from Russia. Sources from the Israeli Ministry of Defense claim that if this is a real deal, it is a very alarming signal for Tel Aviv

        - Well, everything is clear ... like a day ...
        - You ... why ... again want to "leave the bales" ??? - Hahah ...
        1. Natan bruk Online
          Natan bruk (Natan Bruk) 29 June 2020 10: 02
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          What exactly is “clear as day”? There is not even a protocol of intent about these “deliveries”. This is nothing more than a private opinion of some blogger, which he embossed in a magazine with reference to anonymous "sources" unknown to anyone. And what can Israel like or dislike? He wrote already - since 1979, the Sinai has been a demilitarized zone and the entry of military equipment there is possible only with the permission of Israel. Egypt adheres to this treaty and has always adhered to it, even during the reign of Mursi and the "Muslim brothers." So all this is just another nonsense. This is Hahah.
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            Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 29 June 2020 11: 12
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            "Girl" is in the clouds ...
          2. gorenina91 Offline
            gorenina91 (Irina) 29 June 2020 13: 51
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            There is not even a protocol of intent about these “deliveries”. This is nothing more than private opinions.

            So all this is just plain nonsense

            - Well, "another nonsense"; or "regular smarts" ... - this is precisely this continuous "private opinion" ...
            - Here I personally believe that ... that the next stupidity is to consider that Egypt could invade Libya (such a topic already existed) and start hostilities there ...- on its own Egyptian initiative, at least ... - This is really "dog-nonsense" ... - But personally, I believe that in extreme cases, Israeli aviation can very simply "selectively strike" in Libya; and Israel itself, through a series of political frauds and provocations, can still induce Egypt to invade Libya ...
            “Ah, yes ...” “Israel needs peace and Israel is always for peace ...” - therefore, Israel is quite satisfied with the “permanent state of war with Syria” ... - you can always selectively launch air strikes on the territory of Syria .. .- and the goal and reason is very easy to come up with ... - Hahah ...
            - Israel itself is very, very expecting and hoping that the United States will at least somehow begin to "exert a military influence" on Iran (I do not argue that it would be beneficial for Russia as well) ...- And Iran is afraid of more and more. .. But, alas ...- what can you do ...- once the Americans got a slobbery Trump; who lost the confrontation with China, and greatly weakened his position in the Middle. East ...
            - And it is worth only the United States to truly "tighten its tail" in the Middle. East and ... and then Israel will have to tighten its tail ...
            - That's what we need today in the Middle. In the East, there is such a mediocre (not big and not small) local war (for starters, the local war will come down ... - and there it will be) ... - And in this war Israel will go “all-in" ... - here's how there would be two ways for Israel;
            - if the United States is tightly involved in this conflict (and begins to help with weapons and money; and even better, they themselves will directly participate in the hostilities) ... - Israel won;
            - and if this does not happen (which is quite possible under Trump); then Israel lost ... - in the Near. The role of Turkey will increase in the east; Iran, etc. etc ...- what has already begun to happen ... - So it is very desirable for Israel if the American Jews remove Trump and appoint another president ... - But this is a completely different story ...
            1. Natan bruk Online
              Natan bruk (Natan Bruk) 29 June 2020 16: 08
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              Girl, would you first familiarize yourself with the history of the Arab-Israeli wars, perhaps, for example, with the Six Day War of 1967, when Israel defeated the armies of 6 Arab states in these 5 days. The United States then helped Israel a little less than nothing. And this despite the fact that the Arabs, of course, had a multiple advantage and all-round help of the "great-mighty".
              1. gorenina91 Offline
                gorenina91 (Irina) 29 June 2020 16: 44
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                You would first familiarize yourself with the history of the Arab-Israeli wars, perhaps, for example, with the Six Day War of 1967, when Israel defeated the armies of 6 Arab states in these 5 days.

                - Exactly ... - it has become history ...
                - And today it’s a completely different situation ... - and the Arabs also learned how to fight "in Jewish" ... - Yes, even today the Ishilovites and other rabble fight in a completely different way ...
                - That Israeli aviation will shoot like sparrows from a cannon at numerous mobile cars in the steppe ??? - Yes break off fly and bomb ...
                - And all those victorious Israeli wars were very, very "short-term" ... - just a few days and ... and - "Hurray ... - victory !!!"
                - Israel used to win by knockout in the first round ... - But it was like that before ... - What if it will be 12 rounds ??? - What if Israel today has to “fight longer” ... - Is Israel capable of sharpening and even capable of a long war ??? - And the Arab and other insurgents are precisely tuned for long wars and not for attacks on the forehead; namely, on the bases and provocations and ambushes ... - And these are professionals ...
                - And it’s good when there is a real adversary and his real visible army ...
                - And if it’s hundreds of thousands of dispersed and well-trained and able to fight bandits ... and they do not stand in one place ... - Which cannot be covered with one blow ...
                - Israel is simply tormented to send its helicopters and bombers for these purposes ... - whom to bomb ... and where to send the commandos - if they are sprayed by enemies; to gather again instantly ..
                - Yes, and the darkness rocketed ... - And this "Iron Dome" over Israel ... is partly the same legend as about the "Armor" and other "panacea" from all ills ... - several repeated massive strikes and this dome - may well collapse ...- Several distracting and systematically repeated provocative and imitation attacks; with a change in the range of strokes ... and constantly twitching frequencies, and powerful jamming with simultaneous continuous strikes - simulating distracting and real missiles of different purposes and ... and the dome will split ...
                - Anyway ...- when a small state literally sleeps “with a gun under the pillow” ... then sooner or later this “gun” can fail him ...
                - So you should not be hoping for a "story" like that ... - this story may no longer have a happy ending ...
                1. Natan bruk Online
                  Natan bruk (Natan Bruk) 29 June 2020 16: 58
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                  Girl, you seem to live in a parallel reality that you invented. Today, Israel has practically no real enemies, except for Syria, which will not reconcile itself with reality and its patron Iran, who perfectly understand that they have no chance against Israel, which today is incomparably better armed than in those days. The rest doesn’t even think of fighting against Israel in any way. And in what place did the Arabs "learn to fight"? In wars among themselves? So this is not at all what to fight against Israel. And what kind of “insurgents in the steppe” are you talking about? Where do they come from? Shabak controls its Arabs tightly, and the borders of Israel are not borders between European countries or an imaginary line in the desert. There are electronic systems, and there are also minefields on the Syrian border. And not so long ago, Iranian forces in Syria launched several missiles at the Hermon ski resort - all missiles were shot down, and a powerful missile and bomb strike was launched in response. After that they sit quietly, like a mouse under a broom.
                  1. gorenina91 Offline
                    gorenina91 (Irina) 29 June 2020 17: 18
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                    And not so long ago, Iranian forces in Syria launched several missiles at the Hermon ski resort - all missiles were shot down, and a powerful missile and bomb strike was launched in response, after which they sit quietly like a mouse under a broom.

                    - Well ... and away we go, and went ...
                    - Personally, I thought you would tell something real and new ...
                    - And you are all into this old dudu ... - Nobody just seriously dealt with Israel recently ... - He became like an "elusive Joe" ...- Personally, I wrote more than once that Israel and strikes against Syria inflicts, so that only about himself as a "mighty" and "invulnerable" remind .. - And inflicts - so slightly, slowly, so as not to cause "righteous anger" ...
                    - Well, hope further ... on this ... - How long ...- all this "invulnerability" ... ???
                    - Okay - this is where we will end ...
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                      Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 29 June 2020 18: 02
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                      Personally, I thought you were going to tell something real and new ...

                      First of all, the solar plexus of the planet, which is the Middle East, should not be reduced to a banal confrontation between Egypt and Israel. It is full of duelists without Jerusalem. Russia-USA, Turkey-Kurds, Iran-CA, Shiite-Sunnis, Qatar-OAU. The borders of the BV countries themselves are artificially cut after the First World War. What else de Gaulle noted. Israel is one of the key and most interested players in this theater of war. But not the only one. And he skillfully plays on the contradictions between the players. I completely agree with the opinions of those who rightly note the absence of sources on the submitted news. To scare Israel T-90 is not serious. During the Yom Kippur War, Soviet tanks, including those in the Golan, were beaten by Western equipment. In the southern sector of the Golan, a brave professional, 38-year-old Colonel Yitzhak Shokham, just shot the T-72 from 2 km in a dash, while the Syrians tried to break through the Israeli defenses, in particular to overcome the anti-tank moat. The Syrians began to maneuver, crumple, and hit the minefield. And their Egyptian counterparts were torn apart by Jewish tankers in Sinai, the largest tank battle in the history of mankind since the battle at Prokhorovka. There are early warning stations and Americans in the Sinai. Like the UN troops at one time. So do not scare the Jewish hedgehog loin part of the body of the Egyptian enemy. But just at that time, another piece of news was actively circulating in the Israeli press. Iran’s largest secret underground missile plant and depot flew into the air yesterday. For the production of rockets. Not a word about that. Including in Tehran. Because again deuce. And you say - tanks of Egypt. S-300 have already shown themselves. Apparently, the turn of the tanks. )
                      1. gorenina91 Offline
                        gorenina91 (Irina) 29 June 2020 18: 33
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                        - Yes, it's all yesterday ...- how can you still not understand it ???
                        - Well, there is fraud in commercial activity; there is fraud in the conclusion of contracts; there is fraud in the supply of goods ... - But there is fraud in the conduct of a provocative blitzkrieg ... ... - and it works ... - But it only works with the "corresponding adversary" ... - This worked for Israel in the war with Egypt and the Arabs ...
                        - But Hitler didn’t work with Russia (USSR) ... the “blitzkrieg” didn’t work ...
                        - And Israel and Russia wouldn’t work ... - And not because Israel is small, but Russia is big ... - It’s completely different ... - Even if Israel would inflict a terrible defeat on Russia, and in the tank battle, and would repeat the "meat grinder" that happened in the 80s of the last century, then ... - this would not be a victory for Israel ... - the next day would come, or rather, the next week or even the next ... - and everything would change in a coordinated way ... - Personally, I'm just sure of that ...
                        - So Israel can be hoped for a fraud in the war, but you should be afraid of the coming weeks if there was no victory by knockout ...
                        - The mistake for Israel will be just awful ...

                        Iran’s largest secret underground missile plant and storage facilities flew into the air yesterday.

                        - This is news ... - it is a sin to rejoice in this ... - But Iran is a genie that simply cannot be let out of the vessel ...
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                        Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 29 June 2020 20: 11
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                        - Yes, it's all yesterday ...- how can you not understand everything ???

                        - Well, there is fraud in commercial activity; there is fraud in the conclusion of contracts; there is fraud in the supply of goods ... - But there is fraud in the conduct of a provocative blitzkrieg ... ... - and it works ... - But it only works with the "corresponding opponent" ..- This worked for Israel in the war with Egypt and the Arabs ...

                        Let's work on the bugs. Yours. First of all, advice: do not use terminology about which you have no idea. This is the issue of fraud. Fraud is a form of theft, which differs from, say, robbery or theft, only by the objective side of the crime. Therefore, initially, fraud during the conclusion of contracts, commercial activities, delivery of goods cannot be a priori. Since any theft, including in the form of fraud, without fail provides for the illegality of the seizure and gratuitousness of the appropriation of the subject of theft. With deception in fact, or subject. So the parcels you provided are devoid of legal content. “Interesting, Alice thought, what latitude and longitude am I?” “Alice did not know the meaning of these words, but they sounded so solid and impressive (L. Carroll). Are you trying to build the conclusion that, they say, Israel won the war by fraudulent by. And again, past the pockets, alas. And they even torn the cloth of the billiard table. First of all: what kind of Arab aggression against Israel are we talking about? In 1948, five Arab countries attacked Israel, in 1956, the actions of terrorists against Israel from the territory Egypt, were casus belli. And although Israel left Sinai, the UN recognized that it was right by introducing a special contingent of “blue helmets” to Sinai 1967. Egypt blocks the Strait of Tirana, which, according to international law, is casus belli, introduces troops to the Sinai, concludes treaties on the war against Israel with Jordan and Syria.The armies of Egypt, Syria and Jordan, on the one hand, and the IDF on the other, were on full alert against each other on May 15. What blitzkrieg can I talk about? already wrote above. Reread. Blitzkrieg...
                        In 1973, 22 countries took part in the blitzkrieg against Israel. Including the military contingents of Cuba, Pakistan, the SA, Kuwait, Morocco and even Uganda .... Moreover, Israel was really taken by surprise. This was an attempt by the Blitzkrieg, with the absolute superiority of the opponents of Israel. Israel did not wage other wars. There were separate local operations, such as Medvedka 19, with the total defeat of the Syrian air force and air defense. So the base of the post is slightly inflated with pathos and empty as a hundred pounds of smoke.
                        Reasoning about what would happen if ... is pseudo-historical. It was precisely on this occasion that the GDP told the Russian parable about grandfather and grandmother. Israel is one of the most developed countries on the planet, with a powerful diaspora. The USSR could afford to fight such an enemy. But Glory to Gd, not entirely successful. Parfyonov in his film "Russian Jews" very pointedly remarked: "But the Soviet government did not understand which enemy in the person of Israel it received." In 1990, it was all over.
                        And about the Iranian genie, which can not be let out of the bottle. In the case of the Iranian factory, it is very possible to let go. Into the air. Maybe catch my breath and change my mind. And it rushed nobly. Tens of kilometers of underground utilities, all assembly shops, with all the arsenal of missiles. Apparently, safety precautions were violated when working with explosives, as Israeli experts believe ....))
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                    Natan bruk (Natan Bruk) 29 June 2020 19: 31
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                    Yes, yes, we’ll better end it, you’ll still remain in your parallel reality :))) Although it’s still interesting - who should seriously deal with Israel? Those to whom he interfered already tried - each time they got together and each time received a lyule, even despite the full help of the "great-mighty". And how can one strike in order to allegedly “remind oneself” if these attacks are never recognized by Israel. The Iranians and their tame terrorists in Syria, who only die from these attacks? No, I didn’t hear :)))
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                  vikganz (Vik Ganz) 29 June 2020 19: 20
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                  And who is fighting with ISIS? Martians. Clear. The Syrians, like the Israelis, were taught to fight by the Russian military. NATO people do not know how to fight against a well-trained army. Their lot is Afghans and Yemenis with machine guns. Here they are heroes.
                  Both Iranians and Syrians are pretty decent at war. And if you put them more Russian equipment, then how to determine who is stronger, Arabs or Israelis?
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                    Natan bruk (Natan Bruk) 29 June 2020 19: 36
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                    And what did the Syrians fight in the wars of 1967 and 1973? I’ll tell you a secret - Soviet. And in 1973, the "great-mighty" himself participated directly. Tell me how it all ended or take an interest in yourself? And this is called "decently to fight"?
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                    Binder (Miron) 29 June 2020 21: 46
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                    Quote: vikganz
                    The Syrians, like the Israelis, were taught to fight by the Russian military.

                    This is when the Russian military taught the Israelis to fight? Read you - so Zhvanetsky is resting! laughing
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                  Rashid116 (Rashid) 30 June 2020 11: 24
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                  Looks like a Jew doesn’t care what kind of sheet he is sculpting))) I just don’t understand - is he trying to scare us or wants to calm himself down?
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        Binder (Miron) 29 June 2020 17: 17
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        Quote: gorenina91
        Egypt wants to buy T-90MS tanks from Russia. Sources from the Israeli Ministry of Defense say that if this is a real deal, it is a very alarming signal for Tel Aviv.

        - Well, everything is clear ... like a day ...

        This is with a probability of 150% ordinary fake. Well, judge why Israeli generals worry about Egypt’s hypothetical acquisition of 400-500 T-90MS tanks, if the Egyptians already have 1100 M1A1 Abrams, about silently about 3000 tanks of outdated models, I’ll keep silent. ..
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          gorenina91 (Irina) 29 June 2020 17: 46
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          Well, judge why Israeli generals should be worried about Egypt’s hypothetical acquisition of 400-500 T-90MS tanks if the Egyptians already have 1100 M1A1 Abrams

          - Yes, and the fact that ... what ... that Egypt shows "independence" and "inconsistency" with Israel .... - is Israel happy with that ???
          - And this is what ??? ..- Your fellow countryman here leads:

          Under the 1979 agreement, Egypt can only transfer military equipment to the Sinai with the consent of Israel, since this is a demilitarized zone. As happened recently, when the Egyptians with the permission of Israel introduced equipment there to fight ISIS.

          - So ... - is that ???

          ..only with the consent of Israel, "" Which happened recently, when the Egyptians with the permission of Israel "

          - And here Egypt also decided to acquire tanks "without demand"; and then also the S-400 wants ... - This is the number ...
          - Personally, I already wrote about how Israel "worries" about Egypt ...
          - The reason is ...
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            Binder (Miron) 30 June 2020 04: 34
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            Quote: gorenina91
            And here Egypt also decided to acquire tanks "without demand"

            The Israeli tankers have a saying that in my translation from Hebrew sounds like this:

            A tank is just a piece of iron, but people are harder than steel.

            That is why the Israelis beat, beat and will always beat their enemies, no matter what weapon they arm.
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              magma (Tatyana) 1 July 2020 07: 53
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              That is why the Israelis beat, beat and will always beat their enemies, no matter what weapon they arm.

              lol Do you happen to work as a kindergarten teacher?
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                Binder (Miron) 2 July 2020 05: 06
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                It seems, madam, that you still live in the kindergarten sandbox. wink
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    vikganz (Vik Ganz) 29 June 2020 18: 20
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    You know, Irina, I don’t know what you really need to deliver. And who are you for?
    Or a Jew herself? Joke.
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      gorenina91 (Irina) 29 June 2020 19: 02
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      You know, Irina, I don’t know what you really need to deliver. And who are you for?
      Or a Jew herself? Joke.

      - Personally, I ... is one that has never believed; I don’t believe: and I will never believe in the genius of the Jews ... - I would write "more" and more ... mmmm ... no longer tolerant, but they will ban me for being politically incorrect ...
      - Personally, I am Russian; baptized in the Russian Orthodox Old Believers Church ... - But Old Believers up to the seventh generation (and beyond) know their genealogy ...
      - Well, but you can consider me anyone (I mean nationality) ...- personally, I will not be offended ... - Hahah ...
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        Rashid116 (Rashid) 30 June 2020 11: 35
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        Here I agree with Gorenina (regarding the genius and courage of the Jewish). In youth, when asphalt was shared, it was a “pleasure” to have a snack with them. I didn’t see people meaner and more cowardly, and they all transferred to grandmas.
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    123 (123) 29 June 2020 14: 45
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    Why are the Americans silent? Usually they didn’t like all the deliveries of Russian weapons, but then silence. request
    Maybe they are not up to it now?
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      vikganz (Vik Ganz) 29 June 2020 18: 23
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      They seem to have given up. The Negroes set an ultimatum for them.
      Yes, blacks, and this is not at all an offensive "nickname." This is a statement of fact. A black man is a black man.
      And as for the slaves, I have nothing to do with them.
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        123 (123) 29 June 2020 18: 54
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        They seem to have given up. The Negroes set an ultimatum for them.

        Maybe you are right, and they really are not up to it. They say that forecasts for the economy - 40% for June came true.
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    mikado68 (Rasul) 29 June 2020 19: 39
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    Enemy number 1 for Egypt is Erdoganov’s Turkey.
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      Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 29 June 2020 20: 42
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      Quote: mikado68
      Enemy number 1 for Egypt is Erdoganov’s Turkey.

      Enemy number 1 is not only for Egypt, but also for Syria, Greece, Armenia, the Kurds. Enemy number 2 for Iran, without exception, all Arab countries. And for the Russian Federation and Israel, it’s definitely not a friend.
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        Rashid116 (Rashid) 30 June 2020 13: 35
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        And Israel is not our friend — that’s for sure, too.
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          Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 30 June 2020 18: 49
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          To you, who is this?
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            Rashid116 (Rashid) 30 June 2020 20: 16
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            Nam - this is Nam, hang out, Jew.
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              Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 1 July 2020 11: 58
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              To us, to you, once again, to whom do you? Didn’t start talking? Do you take a lot on yourself?
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                Rashid116 (Rashid) 2 July 2020 08: 52
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                Normally I take upon myself what I wanted, a Jew?
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                  Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 2 July 2020 13: 18
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                  I recall a very famous story told by one of the "fathers" of Soviet psychiatry, Mikhail Osipovich Gurevich.

                  At a lecture on Alzheimer's disease, a patient with this serious illness was demonstrated. We call it purely conditionally "Rashid."
                  He could not give his name, date or time of year, but when asked who brought him to the hospital, he answered with unexpectedly realized malice: “Jews.”
                  The professor turned to the audience and remarked:
                  "You see how little intelligence is needed to be an anti-Semite" ...

                  So, only an individual who shoveled the entire world anti-Semitic literature, could start to move his brains on this basis, which is what a vivid example are for you.
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          Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 30 June 2020 21: 59
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          Quote: Rashid116
          And Israel is not our friend — that’s for sure, too.

          Who would argue? Especially with the radical Islamist.
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            Rashid116 (Rashid) 2 July 2020 08: 59
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            I recognize a Jew with a crystal ball, well, to read thoughts)))) I actually have a Russian wife, two children, I speak Tatar badly (to my shame, there’s no time to tighten my tongue). So, the Islamist from me none, but of you psychic is even worse))))
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              Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 2 July 2020 09: 58
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              Quote: Rashid116
              I recognize a Jew with a crystal ball, well, to read thoughts)))) I actually have a Russian wife, two kids, I speak Tatar badly (to my shame, there’s no time to tighten my tongue). So, the Islamist is none of me, but of you the psychic is even worse))))

              Dudaev is also Russian. So, judge not by their words, but by their deeds.
              To take the liberty and assert that (your quote) "I’ve never met people“ meaner and more cowardly ", or" Israel is not our friend "- this is a typical set of anti-Semite - a radical Islamist fascist. Yes, and illiterate. Take a look at the statistics about Jewish military prowess and intelligence. And in general, as Russian wisdom says, you are on the site as an uninvited guest ...
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                Rashid116 (Rashid) 3 July 2020 07: 41
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                That's why I disdain to communicate with the Jews-stupid and boring. One came up with some kind of garbage and dumped it)))) Another beguiled tramp tells me where to express his opinion))) And actually, it says Russian, and maybe Tatar wisdom: don’t tell me what to do - I won’t tell you where you go.