A source of fresh water found in the Crimea will completely cover the need of the peninsula


Extensive sources of fresh water have been found in the mountains of the Crimean peninsula that can fully satisfy the needs of Crimeans. About it сообщает press service of the University of Sevastopol.


Scientists for two years observed two underground high-temperature water centers. One of them runs at a depth of 900-1100 meters - in it there is a movement of underground water pressure, the temperature of which reaches 85 degrees. Another source is located at a depth of 350-500 meters - tectonic water flows also migrate here. The sea water entering them evaporates under the influence of high temperatures, thus creating natural “desalination plants” located at a depth of more than 2,5 km.

Water circulates through a network of tectonic faults throughout the Crimea, so you can get it where it is needed

- notes Nikolay Kovalev, head of the research laboratory of the university, candidate of technical sciences.

The main problem of underground water production is the high cost of drilling wells. However, the discovered areas will allow drilling shallow holes up to 300 m or less, since in some places water flows from the lower layers to the upper. The total productivity of natural desalination plants is about 1 million m3 / day, that is, about 365 million m3 per year.

Currently, according to experts, the amount of water consumed annually on the Crimean peninsula is about 350-400 million cubic meters. That is, the found water source is able to cover the need of the peninsula. Previously, up to 85 percent of water supplies to Crimeans were provided through the North Crimean Canal from Ukraine. However, after the reunification of Crimea with the Russian Federation in 2014, this path was blocked. Currently, Crimea is provided with water by drilling wells, as well as from reservoirs that are naturally filled. However, in recent years, due to the small amount of rainfall, the reservoirs have become very shallow.
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  1. gorenina91 Offline
    gorenina91 (Irina) 19 June 2020 16: 40
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    The main problem of underground water production is the high cost of drilling wells. However, the discovered areas will allow drilling shallow holes up to 300 m or less, since in some places water flows from the lower layers to the upper.

    - Yes, it exists ... and such a version has existed for a long time ... - Maybe this is all quite plausible ...
    - But not the "high cost of drilling wells" is the root cause of the production of this water ... - The trouble is that when drilling can be "depressurization" of all this unique "natural distiller" ... - this whole natural process can be destroyed .. . - Well ...- it will start from the drilled wells with fountains to beat simply ...- salty sea water ...
    1. lieutenant Offline
      lieutenant (Vladimir) 19 June 2020 19: 36
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      Guard! Chef, everything is gone .....
    2. Fourth Horseman Offline
      Fourth Horseman (Fourth Horseman) 19 June 2020 20: 51
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      Yes Yes Yes! #bridgeBuilding Impossible!
      There are many kilometers of sediment, there are mud volcanoes, moving tectonic plates, and ... crab houses!
    3. Dear sofa expert. 19 June 2020 23: 58
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      The trouble is that during drilling, “depressurization” of all this unique “natural distiller” can occur.

      - will not happen. The streams of fresh water circulating in tectonic faults are located at a depth of 350-500 m, and the desalination plants are at 2500 m.

      The formation of fresh water proceeds continuously due to steam condensation in porous karst rocks, regardless of natural precipitation and season. Considering that in Crimea there is a network of through tectonic faults, underground fresh water can be taken near settlements requiring water supply. "

      https://www.google.de/amp/s/ria.ru/amp/20200619/1573186312.html
  2. Sergey Latyshev Offline
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 19 June 2020 16: 59
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    Wah!
    6 years did not find anything, and here again !!! Found in a week !!!
    And with the need coincides with the tyutelk in the tyutelku! No more, but no less!

    Maybe it's all about voting?
    1. 123 Offline
      123 (123) 19 June 2020 18: 11
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      Scientists of SevSU and Scientific Research Institute of Agriculture of Crimea RAS investigated for two years two underground high-temperature centers located in the Crimean mountains, in which the formation of pressure underground freshwater occurs.

      Maybe the whole thing is "work"? There is such a profession "average" write comments. winked
      1. Sergey Latyshev Offline
        Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 19 June 2020 23: 07
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        Yes, there is such a profession: to find fault with words ....

        In the mountains of the Crimean peninsula ...

        .... have been observed for two years ...

        Found and observed - a little different actions, as if ....
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          1. Sergey Latyshev Offline
            Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 22 June 2020 09: 07
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            Good thing you confessed.
      2. Marzhecki Offline
        Marzhecki (Sergei) 21 June 2020 07: 53
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        Quote: 123
        Scientists of SevSU and Scientific Research Institute of Agriculture of Crimea RAS investigated for two years two underground high-temperature centers located in the Crimean mountains, in which the formation of pressure underground freshwater occurs.

        Maybe the whole thing is "work"? There is such a profession "average" write comments. winked

        Well, you know better wink
        1. 123 Offline
          123 (123) 21 June 2020 08: 29
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          Well, you know better

          Well, since you think so, what perhaps I agree. yes Add to the bookmark, useful for the future. This is item number 1. hi
    2. aleksandrmakedo Offline
      aleksandrmakedo (Dubovitsky Victor Kuzmich) 21 June 2020 15: 34
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      Quote: Sergey Latyshev
      Wah!
      6 years did not find anything, and here again !!! Found in a week !!!
      And with the need coincides with the tyutelk in the tyutelku! No more, but no less!

      Maybe it's all about voting?

      It's all about the simplicity of organizing the brain of the writer. If there is an amoeba, the simplest, ciliates shoe, then the thought will be the simplest. No idea, no logic.
      These sources have been known for decades. But in conditions of grandeur between nations, they used a more acceptable solution.
      1. Sergey Latyshev Offline
        Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 22 June 2020 09: 08
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        There is such a profession - to pour shit for any reason and for no reason.

        Good thing you admitted earlier.
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  4. It is necessary to transfer the water of the Dnieper and the Seimas to the Don, and from there - along the aqueduct to the Crimea! And let Ukrainians manage with their own water or buy 1000 rubles in Russia. per cubic meter.
  5. beeper Online
    beeper 19 June 2020 18: 58
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    The main thing is that the material implementation of these, theoretically processed, data of the Crimean geological exploration should have a small “time lag” and the problem with fresh water on the peninsula would be solved in such a happy way quickly and definitively! yes
    And so, the news is very optimistic! good
  6. Warrior Offline
    Warrior 19 June 2020 19: 53
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    For a long time we would have drilled these 300 meters and provided the WHOLE Crimea with fresh water ... But what then prevents it from being done?
    1. aleksandrmakedo Offline
      aleksandrmakedo (Dubovitsky Victor Kuzmich) 22 June 2020 09: 55
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      Quote: Warrior
      For a long time we would have drilled these 300 meters and provided the WHOLE Crimea with fresh water ... But what then prevents it from being done?

      Precise knowledge of the geological image interferes. Drilling is necessary not just for these 300 meters, but also not to pierce the hydrostatic pillow on which this water lens (s) is located. The lack of TAM of the corresponding equipment is in the way. The lack of powerful submersible pumps, the energy structure at the location of the water deposits, and the lack of a piping system interfere.
      All these issues need to be addressed at someone else's expense. Withdrawing funds from those plans and positions that are less important and urgent. Not easy? Of course.
      From your post you can see that you are a resident of a decently large city, and you probably think that the buns grow on birches. And in order to get drunk, just turn off the tap with water.
  7. Cheburashk Offline
    Cheburashk (Vladimir) 19 June 2020 22: 23
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    Quote: gorenina91
    The main problem of underground water production is the high cost of drilling wells. However, the discovered areas will allow drilling shallow holes up to 300 m or less, since in some places water flows from the lower layers to the upper.

    - Yes, it exists ... and such a version has existed for a long time ... - Maybe this is all quite plausible ...
    - But not the "high cost of drilling wells" is the root cause of the production of this water ... - The trouble is that when drilling can be "depressurization" of all this unique "natural distiller" ... - this whole natural process can be destroyed .. . - Well ...- it will start from the drilled wells with fountains to beat simply ...- salty sea water ...

    I agree with you that there are more questions than answers!
    1. gorenina91 Offline
      gorenina91 (Irina) 20 June 2020 07: 04
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      I agree with you that there are more questions than answers!

      - And if you agree ... - then why don't I (+) plus put ???
      - My plus to you ... - for "courage" ...
    2. gorenina91 Offline
      gorenina91 (Irina) 20 June 2020 17: 31
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      I agree with you that there are more questions than answers!

      -Oooh, Mr. Cheburashk (Vladimir) ...- it won’t do that ...
      - This is for you “more questions than answers” ​​... It doesn’t happen ...- such a “creed” for all occasions ... - “I agree in my disagreement” ...
      - You are unworthy of my plus ... - I was mistaken in you ...- turned out to be weak-witted ...
      - So ... - let it go further - "... they run awkwardly ... - those who can through the puddles .." ...
      - And who is scared to run through the puddles, then let them just ...- watch "free cinema" ... - Although the wizard will not show the movie to those who are afraid of puddles ....
      - So ...- no you are not Cheburashk ...- but just ...
  8. assault 2019 Offline
    assault 2019 (assault 2019) 20 June 2020 00: 47
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    How does Israel provide all its agriculture with desalinated sea water and is one of the largest exporters of agricultural products?
    In Crimea, there is a sea, there are 250 sunny days a year, and only the mind is not enough to take and repeat !!!
    Local bureaucrats are ready to pump water from a depth of 500-900 meters, spending a huge amount of electricity and using very expensive pumps, because Moscow will allocate more money, most of which can be stolen.
  9. Monster_Fat Offline
    Monster_Fat (What's the difference) 20 June 2020 05: 10
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    They knew about this so-called “source of fresh water” in Soviet times and even tried to solve the water problem then by drilling wells and pumping water out of them, but soon they came up against an unsolvable problem in principle: water, at first fresh, began to salt more and more - artificial desalination simply did not have time to "make" fresh water from incoming sea water. The performance of this natural desalination plant was negligible. As a result, the idea of ​​using deep water was abandoned. It seems that, as is usual in Russia, they decided to step on the same rake. The Israeli and Maltese method of solving the problem of water scarcity is obviously too complicated to understand by the modern "effective managers" of the "Putin spill" - they are more accustomed to getting drunk somewhere and pumping out, despite the fact that this has already been done before and without success - they just "salted "internal underground water bodies from which small rivers and streams feed. But then they stopped in time. And who will stop these morons now? Those who applaud the "unexpectedly found", "beautiful solution" of the water problem? ... hi
    1. gorenina91 Offline
      gorenina91 (Irina) 20 June 2020 07: 17
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      But then they stopped in time. And who will stop these morons now? Those who applaud the "unexpectedly found", "beautiful solution" of the water problem?

      - My plus to you, Mr. Monster_Fat ...
      - Really ... - Allow such "experts", so these "horsemen" with sabers will fountains of salt water then pacify; and “golitsyna’s guards” can only be pulled “heroically” by cartridges ...- in order to curb the salty water element ...
      - "The trouble is, since the boots will start to smack ... a cake ..." ...
    2. Dear sofa expert. 20 June 2020 14: 15
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      They knew about this so-called “source of fresh water” back in Soviet times and even tried to solve the water problem then by drilling wells and pumping water out of them, but soon they came up against an unsolvable problem in principle: water, initially fresh, began to salt more and more

      Please indicate the source of this information. Well, I would like to read about it.
    3. aleksandrmakedo Offline
      aleksandrmakedo (Dubovitsky Victor Kuzmich) 21 June 2020 15: 44
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      Quote: Monster_Fat
      They knew about this so-called “source of fresh water” in Soviet times and even tried to solve the water problem then by drilling wells and pumping water out of them, but soon they came up against an unsolvable problem in principle: water, at first fresh, began to salt more and more - artificial desalination simply did not have time to "make" fresh water from incoming sea water. The performance of this natural desalination plant was negligible. As a result, the idea of ​​using deep water was abandoned. It seems that, as is usual in Russia, they decided to step on the same rake. The Israeli and Maltese method of solving the problem of water scarcity is obviously too complicated to understand by the modern "effective managers" of the "Putin spill" - they are more accustomed to getting drunk somewhere and pumping out, despite the fact that this has already been done before and without success - they just "salted "internal underground water bodies from which small rivers and streams feed. But then they stopped in time. And who will stop these morons now? Those who applaud the "unexpectedly found", "beautiful solution" of the water problem? ... hi

      If you had as much in your head as in your belly, then the simplest equation could be solved without bothering with such a long exposition.
      And who drives so much that the flow of water from the wells would stimulate the rise of salt water? Education does not allow us to understand that dealing with this is easier than ever. Any locksmith knows how to close the tap, reducing the analysis of water.
  10. gorenina91 Offline
    gorenina91 (Irina) 20 June 2020 05: 14
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    - Well .... - Hahah ...- Hahah ...- Hahah ...
    - Is that ... today in the circus arena clowns ???
    - How many "specialists" ... - "lieutenants", "riders" and other "brave - brilliant craftsmen" all of a sudden ... like from a snuffbox ... - Yes, such people can drill everything at once ...
    - There is one very new fairy tale and personally I will tell it ...
    - Somewhere far, far ... - "In the mountains of Norilsk" there was a large barrel filled with diesel fuel ... - She stood on a solid pedestal ... - It seems like this pedestal was made from permafrost ... - A "vigilant watchmen" "watched" this permafrost ... - and polar meteorologists; and "hydrologists" in permafrost; and builders, who build houses and various large "cages-barns" on stilts; and even the "Arctic archaeologists" and many other other guards and services ... - They watched, watched ... - and didn’t keep track of ... - The mouse was running; tail waved ...- and take the barrel ... and capsize ... - and all the diesel fuel spilled across the fields and the rivers ... - Well, here the fairy tale ends ...
    - But there are other lovers to compose different tales, but to tell ... - It would be the beginning ...
    - And the beginning is such that in the Crimea it is possible; that lies on the peninsula, the sea ...- take and start drilling eternal tectonic deposits ... - maybe that will come out ... - And next to it - the whole sea ...- That's how they will drill ...- it will the sea fountain ...- right up to the sky ... - And people have fun; and the bowels of the earth will finally lighten up ...- and then after all, they have been locked up for thousands of years ...
    1. aleksandrmakedo Offline
      aleksandrmakedo (Dubovitsky Victor Kuzmich) 21 June 2020 15: 39
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      Quote: gorenina91
      - Well .... - Hahah ...- Hahah ...- Hahah ...
      - Is that ... today in the circus arena clowns ???
      - How many "specialists" ... - "lieutenants", "riders" and other "brave - brilliant craftsmen" all of a sudden ... like from a snuffbox ... - Yes, such people can drill everything at once ...
      - There is one very new fairy tale and personally I will tell it ...
      - Somewhere far, far ... - "In the mountains of Norilsk" there was a large barrel filled with diesel fuel ... - She stood on a solid pedestal ... - It seems like this pedestal was made from permafrost ... - A "vigilant watchmen" "watched" this permafrost ... - and polar meteorologists; and "hydrologists" in permafrost; and builders, who build houses and various large "cages-barns" on stilts; and even the "Arctic archaeologists" and many other other guards and services ... - They watched, watched ... - and didn’t keep track of ... - The mouse was running; tail waved ...- and take the barrel ... and capsize ... - and all the diesel fuel spilled across the fields and the rivers ... - Well, here the fairy tale ends ...
      - But there are other lovers to compose different tales, but to tell ... - It would be the beginning ...
      - And the beginning is such that in the Crimea it is possible; that lies on the peninsula, the sea ...- take and start drilling eternal tectonic deposits ... - maybe that will come out ... - And next to it - the whole sea ...- That's how they will drill ...- it will the sea fountain ...- right up to the sky ... - And people have fun; and the bowels of the earth will finally lighten up ...- and then after all, they have been locked up for thousands of years ...

      Everyone can write fairy tales, because of their nearness, stupid. Here to offer the real, able to be realized in a short period, with a low price .... This is not for average minds. Here you need to behave modestly.
      1. gorenina91 Offline
        gorenina91 (Irina) 21 June 2020 16: 09
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        Everyone can write fairy tales, because of their nearness, stupid. Here to offer the real, able to be realized in a short period, with a low price .... This is not for average minds. Here you need to behave modestly.

        - Are you telling me ... or something, Mr. "smart and distant" ???
        - Personally, I already have a lot of things here ... here ... here I offered ... real and quite feasible ...
        - I repeat again:
        - Crimea can be provided with fresh water ...- only by creating a desalination system of sea water on the peninsula ...
        - Energy for this can be obtained from a whole system of solar panels and wind power stations ... - It’s difficult ...- but it’s quite possible ...
        - Still it would be possible to use the energy of the tides; but, unfortunately, the ebbs and flows in the Black Sea are very insignificant and it’s just not rational to use them for this kind of conversion into electric energy ... - Costs are big ...- and there’s not much sense ...
        - You don’t write your comments to me anymore ... - it’s not worth it ...
        1. aleksandrmakedo Offline
          aleksandrmakedo (Dubovitsky Victor Kuzmich) 21 June 2020 16: 59
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          Quote: gorenina91
          Everyone can write fairy tales, because of their nearness, stupid. Here to offer the real, able to be realized in a short period, with a low price .... This is not for average minds. Here you need to behave modestly.

          - Are you telling me ... or something, Mr. "smart and distant" ???
          - Personally, I already have a lot of things here ... here ... here I offered ... real and quite feasible ...
          - I repeat again:
          - Crimea can be provided with fresh water ...- only by creating a desalination system of sea water on the peninsula ...
          - The energy for this can be obtained from a whole system of solar panels and wind power stations ... -It’s difficult ...- but it’s quite possible ...
          - Still it would be possible to use the energy of the tides; but, unfortunately, the ebbs and flows in the Black Sea are very insignificant and it’s just not rational to use them for this kind of conversion into electric energy ... - Costs are big ...- and there’s not much sense ...
          - You don’t write your comments to me anymore ... - it’s not worth it ...

          Lying on the couch and dreaming of doing something like this ....
          Doesn’t it resemble a literary hero?
          Megawatts of power for electrolysis decomposition of water.

          Desalination Methods:

          Suitable for drinking water supply is water with a soluble salt content of not more than 1 g / l. Therefore, the practical task in the desalination of water (mainly marine) is to reduce its excess salinity. This is achieved in various ways:

          evaporation (distillation), including:
          conventional distillation
          multistage flash distillation,
          low pressure distillation (vacuum distillation),
          thermocompression distillation,
          freezing (freezing),
          including through gas hydrates,
          ion exchange
          electrodialysis
          reverse osmosis,
          direct osmosis,
          hydrodynamic separation (separation).

          Under research:

          Electrochemically Mediated Seawater Desalination, in which a special microcircuit divides the stream of salt water into two streams with high and low salt content, respectively.

          Desalination of water for industrial and domestic needs is carried out at desalination plants. Depending on the method used, energy consumption per cubic meter is from 0,7 kW ∙ h to 20 kW-h (2,5-72 MJ).

          https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Опреснение_воды

          There, on average, 3,5 kWh was spent on desalination of one m³ of water. Can you multiply by millions, or help?
          Further. 1m ² of area The sun gives about 1 kilowatt of light power. Further, the efficiency of the solar battery is 20%. From here, to get 1 m³ of water per hour, you need to have at least 20m ² of solar battery. Given that there are less than 180 sunny days in a year, and having the task of getting water in such quantity .... considering the price.

          https://econrj.ru/solnechnie-jelektrostancii/solnechnaja-jelektrostancija-10-5-kvt.html

          (about 200 thousand for a battery of 10 kilowatt hours per day), the case is becoming so expensive that ....
          1. gorenina91 Offline
            gorenina91 (Irina) 21 June 2020 19: 11
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            - I told you ...- do not write more about the desalination of water in the Crimea ...- And especially to me personally ... - No need ...- Not your topic ...
            - And do not make a nonsense and collect everything in a heap ...
            - The huge steppe, sun-calcined and wind-blown territory of Crimea ...- is almost ideal for solar battery complexes and wind power stations ...
            - Have you heard about Holland ??? - Go and explain to them that they should not use wind power substations ... - because it’s not profitable for them ... - and that they generally have a lot of land that is below sea level ... - And that they should not build cities in such "lowlands" ...- Because in the "Holland" cold winters and all their windmills can simply freeze and stop spinning; and with osmosis, not everything is safe there ...- Well, sea water will take and seep ... and the Danes will drink brine ... - And tell the astronauts ...- about osmosis and reverse osmosis ... - open it to them the truth ... - what kind of "same water" do they drink in space there and whether they should do it ...
            -And about desalination plants, you are already here ... here ... there is no address at all ...
            - There are two Israelis on the site ... - here you give them your stated "data" and tell us that Israel should not engage in desalination of sea water at all ...- this is terribly expensive and completely unprofitable ...
            - I repeat again ...- do not write me any more ...- do not ...
            1. aleksandrmakedo Offline
              aleksandrmakedo (Dubovitsky Victor Kuzmich) 21 June 2020 19: 26
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              Quote: gorenina91
              On aleksandrmakedo (Dubovitsky Victor Kuzmich) Today, 16:59
              - I told you ...- do not write more about the desalination of water in the Crimea ...- And especially to me personally ... - No need ...- Not your topic ...
              - And do not make a nonsense and collect everything in a heap ...
              - The huge steppe, sun-calcined and wind-blown territory of Crimea ...- is almost ideal for solar battery complexes and wind power stations ...
              - Have you heard about Holland ??? - Go and explain to them that they should not use wind power substations ... - because it’s not profitable for them ... - and that they generally have a lot of land that is below sea level ... - And that they should not build cities in such "lowlands" ...- Because in the "Holland" cold winters and all their windmills can simply freeze and stop spinning; and with osmosis, not everything is safe there ...- Well, sea water will take and seep ... and the Danes will drink brine ... - And tell the astronauts ...- about osmosis and reverse osmosis ... - open it to them the truth ... - what kind of "same water" do they drink in space there and whether they should do it ...
              -And about desalination plants, you are already here ... here ... there is no address at all ...
              - There are two Israelis on the site ... - here you give them your stated "data" and tell us that Israel should not engage in desalination of sea water at all ...- this is terribly expensive and completely unprofitable ...
              - I repeat again ...- do not write me any more ...- do not ...

              What the hell is that? He writes frank nonsense, not being able to count in a column of value. And you can not argue. Do not want to listen - go for a walk in the forest. There is no me and others. Have you heard about Germany with their windmills?



              Well, at least that.
              Energy that does not have a stable source. Will you take out a loan in the absence of a stable income? Energy storage in batteries is a triple conversion, with the consequent reduction in system efficiency.
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            assault 2019 (assault 2019) 20 July 2020 22: 51
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            The smart one is looking for options, but the dumb excuses ...
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    candidate (candidate) 20 June 2020 17: 28
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    ... indecision is always
    Leads to losses, gentlemen ...