On the web they criticized the first sighted heavy flamethrower system "Tosochka"

A photo of the Tosochka heavy flamethrower system appeared on the Web, which is a wheeled version of the TOS-1A Solntsepe caterpillar. TOS was spotted on June 11, 2020 in the Moscow Region during the rehearsal of the parade dedicated to the 75th anniversary of the victory in World War II.

TOS-2 “Tosochka” was created on the basis of the “Ural” car of increased carrying capacity, improved cross-country ability and mine protection. This system was the result of experience gained during the conflict in Syria. Training car drivers is cheaper, less fuel consumption, and TOS itself has become much more maneuverable. “Tosochka” has a manipulator for independent reloading, and fire control is fully automated.

However, users of social networks and Russian specialized sites criticized the first sight of "Tosochka":

The rear axles are overloaded, which means the bridges will tear. What do they think there?

- indignant Maxim Rachevsky.

I think the whole thing is to save money ...

- suggested Pavel Kraynikov.

In conditions of dominance of drones, the idea is so-so. This thing detonates not weakly. But it’s not far, therefore it should be at the forefront

- Sergey Enotov considers.

UAVs do not dance against the army with layered air defense. The game is not worth it. They are expensive and easily fall. And this machine is perfect for its purposes, no trenches and shelters will help

Mithridates Eupator objected to him.

The dream of a grenade launcher, from 500 meters will fail. The height of the target is such that it will be difficult to miss. Although, after the BTR-90 / Kurganets / Barberry and other chassis, I am no longer surprised at anything. TOS on the T-72 chassis will be better

- considers Andrey Petrushin.

Is it a cheaper (due to the chassis) version of TOC?

- asks Alexander Baldauf.

Yes, because experience has shown that wheeled chassis are better in the Middle East

- Karim Gaysin answered him.

More resources, the ability to independently navigate on the roads, and not on the trailer. Longer life span. More speed and mobility. Patency, of course, less caterpillar, but also rather big. The truck will drive a lot

- added a certain Vitaly.

A very bad trend, the transition from tracked to wheeled chassis. The recently introduced Coalition-SV-KSH self-propelled gun on a wheeled chassis, now Solntsepek, tomorrow a tank ...

- dissatisfied with Andrei Mikhailov.

If there are changes, i.e. improvements in TTX, then it is necessary to apply these improvements in the tracked version (TOS-1A), and update it too. No offense, but only a completely distant person in this matter can argue that "Tosochka" is a continuation / replacement of TOS-1A. TOS can replace Tosochka at any time, both in the city and in the mountains, and Tosochka will not always replace TOS. Everything else also has the dimensions of "Tosochka" more. But the car, like the new system, is cool

- summed up a certain Azer.
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  1. gorenina91 Offline gorenina91
    gorenina91 (Irina) 13 June 2020 10: 46
    A very bad trend, the transition from tracked to wheeled chassis. The recently introduced Coalition-SV-KSH self-propelled gun on a wheeled chassis, now Solntsepek, tomorrow a tank ...

    - Of course ... it's a "bad trend, the transition from tracked to wheeled chassis" ...
    - Personally, I am not an expert in this area, but after all, it already became clear ... - when even while patrolling "in the sands"; cars immediately get stuck ... - they just need to turn off the highway and drive further to the side of the road ... - This is constantly demonstrated in the very reports on patrolling in Syria and other desert sandy regions ...
    1. hydrox Offline hydrox
      hydrox (hydrox) 13 June 2020 16: 33
      And since when has TOC been part of the patrol - can anyone tell?
      1. Nikolaevich I Offline Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I (Vladimir) 13 June 2020 17: 51
        And who said about the TOS in the patrol? what No one except you! No. Smart people pay attention to the "key" word "get stuck" when discussing wheeled vehicles ... and the rest - to "patrol" ...
        1. hydrox Offline hydrox
          hydrox (hydrox) 13 June 2020 18: 40
          I answered Gorenina, not you.
          Would you like to apologize?
          After all, smart people do not drive special vehicles off-road, and for smart people, wheeled vehicles move along roads (often on asphalt concrete and at high speed), and do not make their way through the taiga, swamps and sands, remaining off-road until search engines arrive ....
  2. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
    steelmaker 13 June 2020 10: 56
    This is such a terrible weapon that any criticism will shut up right away, after the first shot !!!
  3. Vyacheslav Moscow 13 June 2020 12: 18
    TOS-1 has a small firing range (5-6 km), so to protect the crew it is put on a tank base. The question of lice for the especially "gifted": sho tse take "Katyusha", "Grad", "Tornado" ...? So, critics, the language is in s ... and sit quietly on it.
    1. Nikolaevich I Offline Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I (Vladimir) 13 June 2020 18: 00
      Hmmm ...! Someone in the forest, and you - for firewood! Here they are discussing TOS-2 ... but what does "TOS-1" have to do with it, moreover, specifically in your "expression"?
  4. GRF Offline GRF
    GRF 13 June 2020 18: 42
    Interestingly, to the next version of Socks will automate unmanned driving or automatic reloading?
    So, do not stop at all there barking, ideas for the development of the sea system, good luck to the designers ...
    KAMIKADZE_2 (KAMIKADZE divine) 14 June 2020 01: 49
    This machine has a regulation of air supply to the cylinders. When passing through the sand, it automatically adjusts the pressure in the cylinders of the machine. The desert is not afraid of her.
  6. The same Offline The same
    The same (Joe the Lemonade) 14 June 2020 16: 44
    The right decision. But immediately the question arises about the chassis, its unification with other systems. For example, the Typhoon-U family or the KAMAZ chassis of the Shell.
  7. Observer2014 Offline Observer2014
    Observer2014 14 June 2020 22: 37
    Yes, so that the children serve on it, who invented this garbage and adopted it. With what kind of army is this "Tosochka" going to fight? To smoke out the surrounded bandits? And here's another "cauterize the sites of infection." wassat The range is nonsense. Vulnerability from means of destruction of probable partners is enormous. Can anyone intelligently answer how they are going to conduct military operations on it? If there is a range of 6 km! Six! Maximum. Well put on wheels to make it easier. Moved to the place of use, without spoiling the roads. In short, my verdict is like that. Maybe this flamethrower is needed by the RKhBZ troops. A tank-based CBT is problematic. We decided to mount on wheels, at the same time so that the temptation was less to roll out to the front edge.
    It was fun to read military geniuses as -

    And this machine is perfect for its purposes, no trenches and shelters will help

    laughing wassat So I want to say. Yes, so that you yourself crept to those trenches and shelters on this bomb to the distance of its application.
  8. Valery Orlov_2 Offline Valery Orlov_2
    Valery Orlov_2 (Valery Orlov) 15 June 2020 06: 42
    And where were and are all these "professors" before? All they can do is pour bile on everything that is done in our country! Themselves full zeros, and in the same place - ESTIMATE !!!!!
  9. beeper Offline beeper
    beeper 15 June 2020 10: 20
    More fighting vehicles, good and different!
    In an urbanized (and even in a hilly or steppe with ravines) terrain, the very thing - I quickly drove up to a pre-mapped (for example, marked on a map, street bus or tram stop) position between houses, with already prepared data for shooting, fired a volley ( or half-salvo), and move and move from there - to an alternate firing position or to cover.
    A good idea is to have a lightweight (and cheaper, in production and operation) analogue of TOC, with improved operational mobility, on a wheeled chassis! good
    I do not understand why respected sofa experts break spears by comparing (by contrast!) These related (complementary, with unified ammunition) systems, if they are each good for its own sphere of application ?! winked
    So the fighting in Syria confirmed the need to have such a highly mobile effective combat vehicle on wheels! yes