Does the “American Maidan” mean the end of the USA?


The riots in the US are already called the "American Maidan" and even the start of a new "civil war". Protests and pogroms swept most of the country, which testifies to the systematic nature of the problems that led to the crisis. Involuntarily one has to wonder if the fate of the USSR awaits the “hegemon” itself?


I would like to remind you that on August 9, 2019, “Reporter” came out publication entitled "What will the collapse of the United States turn out for the world?" in which we tried to speculate theoretically on this subject. Let's recall the main points of that article and compare it with the realities of May-June 2020.

Then problem number one was called economic crisis, or rather, the crisis of capitalism as a world system. The “Imperial” Donald Trump is looking for a way out of it by launching a project to return the United States to the status of a nation state, starting to smash the economic and political designs. Because of this, between the Republicans, to whom the current president belongs, and the Democrats, who are represented by candidate Joe Biden, there is a war for the White House not for life, but not death.

Trump was confidently in the lead, but his position in the upcoming elections was greatly crippled by the coronavirus pandemic that had begun so poorly for him. COVID-19 sharply exacerbated all the existing problems of American society. Quarantine led to massive reductions, as a result of which unemployment rose from 3,5% in February to 14,7% in April. This is a historic high since the Great Depression. The health care system in the United States has shown its inability to combat the pandemic, once again demonstrating that it is a paid service sector only for a wealthy part of the population.

This, in turn, sharply exacerbated social problems, primarily among the "colored population". It is no secret that Americans with white skin color live somewhat differently than their compatriots with dark and dark skin. The problem of racism, which was carefully hushed up because of “tolerance,” has existed in the United States since its inception. Extraordinary cases, such as the election of the mulatto Barack Obama as head of state, only emphasize this. Two days ago, Trump's adviser to President Kellianne Conway at the highest level nevertheless acknowledged the problem:

There is institutional racism, a lack of equality for all people in this country. There seems to be no doubt about this.


Compounding the issue of racial inequality is that the United States is literally awash with weapons, legal and illegal. The American police are accustomed to acting very harshly, knowing that they can get a bullet in response, so she is not embarrassed to use weapons and violence against suspects and detainees. Cops regularly kill people, and, as a rule, get off with a slight fright, since the judicial system is on their side. By the way, according to statistics, at the hands of the white police, twice as many die as African Americans.

In the case of black George Floyd in Minneapolis, all these problems are entwined in a tight knot. Yes, a white policeman killed him during his arrest, showing unjustified cruelty. But in the detention group there were two blacks and one Asian. The police chief is also African American, and in Congress, Minnesota represents Somali native Ilhan Omar. At the same time, the murder of Floyd caused a sharply negative reaction from the US African American population, mass protests and pogroms, which even support the classic WASP (White Anglo-Saxon Protestant). The scale of the disaster speaks of the frank ill health of American society, which they try to cover with "fig leaves" like a secret quota for students, athletes, actors and politicians of a color other than white, which annoys many a lot.

And now these ruling elites are trying to use the ruling elites in their fierce civil strife. It’s easy to see that Trump’s opponents seek to play a racist card against the current president. In the so-called "democratic" states, the police behave indifferently, where the National Guard is still involved, it behaves sluggishly. From the outside, it seems like a frank indulgence of the rioters. It should be recalled that in the US governors have a really great fullness of power. Their passivity provokes Trump to the introduction of an emergency mode and the use of the army.

And here the field opens for provocations against federal forces with the subsequent transfer of responsibility to the White House. On the eve of the election, this will be a big blow to candidate Donald Trump, which could cost him the presidency. In fact, all the prerequisites have been created for the start of a real civil war, during which it will be determined who will emerge victorious, “imperials” or “globalists”.

Half a year or a year ago, all this looked like a kind of speculative construction, but some contours of what we talked about earlier are beginning to emerge. Whether this will be the end of the “hegemon” is still a big question, but the internal conflict for the USA may be the beginning of the end.
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  1. Oleg Rambover Offline
    Oleg Rambover (Oleg Rambover) 5 June 2020 15: 19
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    This is not the first such disorder, and I think not the last. It is highly unlikely that they will shake the hegemonic position. And yes, all those who do not want to return to the Russian Federation of the 90s or worse, need to pray that the collapse of the United States did not occur during their lifetime.
    1. 123 Offline
      123 (123) 5 June 2020 15: 44
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      And yes, all those who do not want to return to the Russian Federation of the 90s or worse, need to pray that the collapse of the United States did not occur during their lifetime.

      Is the USA the only thing that keeps us from returning to the nineties? belay I'd rather pray that people with a similar opinion do not decide anything in this life. winked
      1. A.Lex Offline
        A.Lex (Secret information) 5 June 2020 18: 32
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        In-in, that's for sure! Rather, under no circumstances should those marginals who had already destroyed the USSR in the 90s, or even the last, be deprived of power, be left to power! And there’s nothing to talk about the current protestors - I’m bending and the mold of the human race, ready to sell the Motherland for Internet donations and to be "caliph for an hour" on the same Internet.
      2. Oleg Rambover Offline
        Oleg Rambover (Oleg Rambover) 6 June 2020 00: 09
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        Quote: 123
        Is the USA the only thing that keeps us from returning to the nineties?

        You are interpreting my words rather strangely.

        Quote: 123
        I'd rather pray that people with a similar opinion do not decide anything in this life.

        It makes no sense to pray, it is better to go to the polls and vote against those who invest the Russian reserves in the US public debt, and accordingly pray (or I’m sure) that the US economy will not crash.
        1. 123 Offline
          123 (123) 6 June 2020 09: 55
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          You are interpreting my words rather strangely.

          Strange? belay Can you explain what these words mean?

          And yes, all those who do not want to return to the Russian Federation of the 90s or worse, need to pray that the collapse of the United States did not occur during their lifetime.

          How will the collapse of the US economy bring us back to the nineties?

          It makes no sense to pray, it is better to go to the polls and vote against those who invest the Russian reserves in the US public debt, and accordingly pray (or I’m sure) that the US economy will not crash.

          Firstly, I myself am able to decide who to vote for, in this case I do not need your advice.
          Secondly, the mantras about the fact that everything is invested in the American public debt are boring. Russia is not in the top thirty in the list of holders of traders, its investments are at the level of statistical error.
          1. Oleg Rambover Offline
            Oleg Rambover (Oleg Rambover) 7 June 2020 03: 33
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            Quote: 123
            Is it strange? Maybe you yourself explain what these words mean?

            What is there to explain? The USA today is the main economy of the world. The collapse of the United States means the collapse of the global economy (remember the great depression and its consequences). The Russian Federation is embedded in the global economy, and as we know, resource-oriented economies suffer more than others. Remember 2008, how a small drop in the US economy affected the economy of the Russian Federation and the citizens of the Russian Federation? And imagine if the United States befalls the fate of the USSR.

            Quote: 123
            Firstly, I myself am able to decide who to vote for, in this case I do not need your advice.

            Yes, please pray further so that people who invest Russian reserves in the US dollar do not decide anything, but vote for them. Just some kind of cognitive dissonance is obtained.

            Quote: 123
            Secondly, the mantras about the fact that everything is invested in the American public debt have become boring. Russia is not in the top thirty in the list of holders of traders, its investments are at the level of statistical error.

            https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/4150365

            Anyway, foreign exchange reserves are mostly dollars and euros. And 10 billion in the US public debt.
            1. 123 Offline
              123 (123) 7 June 2020 09: 29
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              What is there to explain? The USA today is the main economy of the world. The collapse of the United States means the collapse of the global economy (remember the great depression and its consequences).

              Why are they the main economy? The financial center - yes, the economy - no. Their economy is more virtual.
              The consequences of the great depression? I remembered. yes: In one word, industrialization.
              That the collapse of the US economy is tantamount to the collapse of the global economy - this is your personal point of view, no more. Yes, the consequences will be serious, because many countries are pulled into the “pyramid of artificial demand”. The US generates debts, they increase demand, and the same EU and China are increasing production. Russia in this "holiday of life" is minimally involved. US share in Russia's foreign trade at the level of statistical error.

              The Russian Federation is embedded in the global economy, and as we know, resource-oriented economies suffer more than others.

              Who are we? Do you only know who else? Why other countries suffer less from the crisis is not clear. request Your mantras are not interesting to read.

              Remember 2008, how did a small drop in the US economy affect the Russian economy and the citizens of the Russian Federation?

              What does a small drop in the US economy mean? In 2008 there was a global crisis. Another thing is that it is provoked through the rotten financial system of the United States, and you need to get rid of it. The global financial system, and the economy as a whole, needs to be improved. The sooner this happens, the better for everyone.

              And imagine if the United States befalls the fate of the USSR.

              Introduced yes And I liked it. good

              Yes, please pray further so that people investing the Russian reserves in the US dollar do not decide anything, but vote for them. Just some kind of cognitive dissonance is obtained.

              Are you imposing something on me again? I have already said what I am ready to pray for. Repeat?

              I'd rather pray that people with a similar opinion do not decide anything in this life.

              I’m still ready to pray that people with views like yours do not decide anything. Do you associate yourself with people who "invest Russian reserves in the US dollar"? I repeat, how and for whom to vote is my personal affair. How do you know who I vote for? Do you imagine yourself a visionary? You make up a false opinion about a person, trying to fit into an invented "template", hence the cognitive dissonance.

              Anyway, foreign exchange reserves are mostly dollars and euros. And 10 billion in the US public debt.

              And what should they be? These are the currencies in which payments are made in international trade, and foreign exchange reserves. There are no 10 billion US government debt, now it is less than 4 and they are decreasing.
        2. Oyo Sarkazmi Offline
          Oyo Sarkazmi (Oyo Sarkazmi) 6 June 2020 14: 42
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          Quote: Oleg Rambover
          ... who invests Russian reserves in the US public debt

          Do you live on Mars? Russia holds a pathetic 3 billion in the US public debt, which is not enough even to finance the State Duma for a year.
          A set of blank stamps 15 years ago. You, an hour, not a mummy?
  2. cmonman Offline
    cmonman (Garik Mokin) 5 June 2020 16: 03
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    ... but the internal conflict for the United States may be the beginning of the end.

    The time for “searching for the beginning - the end” is different at different ages.
    In 20 years you find right away, in 70 - it takes time.
    In the USA there were already spontaneous demonstrations of many thousands (peaceful) and the same demonstrations, but with looting. And every time the United States survived “no matter what ...”
    Everyone will eventually calm down. Nobody is going to overthrow the local authorities. Another thing is that some will not be re-elected - this is a fact. There is no barricade, however much the author would like - the people are rebelling against the actions of the police, and not specifically of the local authorities. So Trump will sit in a bunker (why they drove him there is a mystery to me!) And will not fly by helicopter to a neighboring country.
    I can predict that Trump, by his behavior, made his chances of re-election almost null, so get ready to open champagne in honor of Biden.
    1. 123 Offline
      123 (123) 5 June 2020 17: 03
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      It’s fortunate that you don’t have an American embassy; there’s nobody to distribute cookies to.
      1. cmonman Offline
        cmonman (Garik Mokin) 5 June 2020 18: 07
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        ... there’s nobody to hand out cookies.

        We have cookies distributed by the economy.
        Today's report:
        Change in the number of employees innon-agricultural: + 2,509 million. Against -7,5 million expected and -20,687 million in April;
        Unemployment rate: 13,3% against the expected 19,0% and 14,7% in April;
        Average hourly wage on a monthly basis: -1,0% versus + 1,0% of expected and + 4,7% in April;
        Average hourly earnings year on year: + 6,7% against + 8,5% expected and + 8,0% in April;
        Those. in May, 2.5 million people were hired, and workers earned an annualized increase of + 6,7%, i.e. employers raised salaries to their employees. Everyone would have such “cookies”!
        The exchange, of course, reacted positively - in 2 hours by + 800 points !!!
        1. 123 Offline
          123 (123) 6 June 2020 10: 36
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          We have cookies distributed by the economy.

          It turns out that the worse things are in the economy, the more pogroms and vice versa? That is, the whole thing is "grandmothers"?
          I'm afraid not everything is limited to this. no The tradition of "pay and repent" is clearly taking root.



          A similar fashion has not yet reached Baltimore?

          Change in the number of people employed outside agriculture: + 2,509 million. Against -7,5 million. Expected and -20,687 million in April;
          Unemployment rate: 13,3% against the expected 19,0% and 14,7% in April;

          Some unusual statistics. recourse I understood correctly, in May 2020, 2,509 million people were hired, managed to reduce the unemployment rate by 1,4% in a month and now the number of unemployed is 13,3%, instead of the expected 19%? And how much did the number of pogroms decrease?

          Average hourly wage on a monthly basis: -1,0% versus + 1,0% of expected and + 4,7% in April;
          Average hourly earnings on an annualized basis: + 6,7% versus + 8,5% expected and + 8,0% in April;

          It’s somehow unusual to operate with “hourly earnings”, but oh well. If "translated into Russian", it turns out that wages increased by 6,7% instead of the expected 8,5%, that is, growth slowed down by 1,8%. In April, wages rose by 8%.
          Wage growth is great good but it is curious how labor productivity has grown over the same time and how wage growth affects the cost and, therefore, the competitiveness of products.
          As I understand it, this is an injection of "freshly printed", unsecured money into the economy. This must inevitably lead to inflation. To avoid this, the United States, according to the "good old" tradition, is trying to distribute it around the world. But there are some problems, public debt is not so actively bought, and after all, Trump is going to "pour in" $ 3 trillion. Who is going to sell as many Treasuries is a mystery. In general, not everything is so smooth.

          Those. in May, 2.5 million people were hired, and workers earned an annualized increase of + 6,7%, i.e. employers raised salaries to their employees. Everyone would have such “cookies”!

          There are too many yeasts in these “cookies”, they obviously will not bring any benefit, look, as if there were no problems with “digestion”. So eat yourself.

          The exchange, of course, reacted positively - in 2 hours by + 800 points !!!

          The exchange has long been living your life. The economy is falling - the exchange is growing, the economy is growing - the exchange is growing. They simply inflate the "bubbles", master everything that the "machine" printed. This money does not reach the economy and does not affect it in any way.
      2. A.Lex Offline
        A.Lex (Secret information) 5 June 2020 18: 36
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        In vain you, 123, so argue - those who staged coups in different countries (those who sponsor our "Pokemon hamsters") decided to try themselves in a "city-on-a-hill". And why? But it’s just that very much - they don’t consider themselves to belong to any country. The same Sorosovskaya is one of them.
        1. 123 Offline
          123 (123) 5 June 2020 18: 38
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          This, in the sense, are they still having work abroad, having fun at home? Such an option is quite possible. yes
          1. A.Lex Offline
            A.Lex (Secret information) 5 June 2020 18: 42
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            Unfortunately, we are not aware of their true plans. And besides, the Amerovsky collapse will hurt us pretty much because of our attachment to $ and to all these “soap bubbles” into which our economy is fully integrated ... But the real sector is still weak ...
            1. 123 Offline
              123 (123) 5 June 2020 18: 46
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              Do not worry, do not fall apart. Anyway now. As for the $ affiliation, this is a common problem. It’s a very convenient case, if you don’t get rid of it, then at least reduce it, “shake” it a little, it’s okay. But about the "soap bubbles" I'm not sure. Where did we get into them?
              1. A.Lex Offline
                A.Lex (Secret information) 7 June 2020 10: 06
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                But about the "soap bubbles" I'm not sure. Where did we get into them?

                Most of their fake economies are scams and speculations with what else, or what ALREADY not. They are great experts on fooling everyone with their brains from scratch.
              2. A.Lex Offline
                A.Lex (Secret information) 9 June 2020 22: 21
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                Do not worry, do not fall apart.

                And here, I would not be in a hurry with conclusions - time will tell!
    2. Dear sofa expert. 5 June 2020 23: 58
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      In the USA there were already spontaneous demonstrations of many thousands (peaceful) and the same demonstrations, but with looting. And every time the United States survived, “no matter what ...”

      Was there a president appointed by the Kremlin in the USA?)
    3. Marzhecki Offline
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 6 June 2020 09: 20
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      Quote: cmonman
      There is no barricade, however much the author would like - the people are rebelling against the actions of the police, and not specifically of the local authorities.

      I did not express desires about the collapse of the United States. Moreover, if you look at the article of August 9, there we described the negative consequences that may result from this.
      1. cmonman Offline
        cmonman (Garik Mokin) 6 June 2020 16: 41
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        The title of your article is very abstract:

        Does the “American Maidan” mean the end of the USA?

        The end of the political system? Economic collapse? Together?
        Congress / President / Supreme Court - resign?
        What “end” is the US talking about?
        You yourself, Sergey, have coined the term for the events in the USA as “Civil War”, and you are trying to draw conclusions under this artificial definition. But if we admit that there is no “civil war”, then there is no “end of the USA” either.
        In our city there were thousands of demonstrations - everything is quiet and peaceful. And there is no curfew, no pogroms.
        Now 200 thousand demonstrations are going on in Washington - peacefully.
        The mayor of Washington allowed on the asphalt of the main street to write a slogan contrary to the instructions of the president - and nothing! The President is not a decree to the states, they have their own constitution!
        So, Sergey, if you want to draw attention to your article, then the title is correct. But if you want your articles to be read regularly, then you need to work on the content ...
  3. Sergey Latyshev Offline
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 5 June 2020 16: 44
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    Ah, another weekly "End of the USA"
    Not to write about my native country ..
    1. Marzhecki Offline
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 6 June 2020 09: 18
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      Quote: Sergey Latyshev
      Ah, another weekly "End of the USA."
      Not to write about my native country ..

      Listen, you're already really fed up with your signature whining. We write about our country every day.
      1. Sergey Latyshev Offline
        Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 6 June 2020 13: 40
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        Ага.
        The weekly End of the USA is analytics. Notable.
        And one News out of 12 from Russia (now counted) is the height of "expertism"
        And the rest - who said something over the hill.

        ... we write every day.

        - absolutely right!!!
    2. Oyo Sarkazmi Offline
      Oyo Sarkazmi (Oyo Sarkazmi) 6 June 2020 14: 49
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      Quote: Sergey Latyshev
      another weekly "End of the USA"

      No, here the end shines with insurance companies. In which the money of pension funds is invested.
      1. Sergey Latyshev Offline
        Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 6 June 2020 16: 08
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        Yeah. Bucks have already been buried, Gazprom Yusovsky has already been buried, it is time, it is time to bury the insurance companies ...
        The authors need to throw an idea ...
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    Observer2014 5 June 2020 18: 52
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    Does the “American Maidan” mean the end of the USA?

    laughing lol In the USA they do not watch evenings with Solovyov. Therefore, they will give a fair indignation. Then they will smash those who have gone too far. And everything will be the same. And the devastating ranch guys drinks put weapons in gun rooms. And everything will be in the USA as before. Hate Nazism and blacks. bully laughing Any American will defend his country. Ready fighter. With own weapons in hand. And leave the tales about dry closets and cold Coca-Cola leave where the US military is fighting. Not US citizens. Motivated. And armed to the teeth. Yes, they will smear anyone who just tries to invade their house. Torn into small pieces. Chop into the trash. And this will not be the usual US war for oil. This is their home. This is their way of thinking and living.
    1. Dear sofa expert. 6 June 2020 00: 03
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      And armed to the teeth. Yes, they will smear anyone who just tries to invade their house. Torn into small pieces. Chop into the trash.

      He did not serve in the army (this is not a question), therefore you do not understand how such resistance will end.
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        Observer2014 6 June 2020 07: 58
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        Quote: Dear couch expert.
        And armed to the teeth. Yes, they will smear anyone who just tries to invade their house. Torn into small pieces. Chop into the trash.

        He did not serve in the army (this is not a question), therefore you do not understand how such resistance will end.

        laughing The Russian anti-arms lobby is striking in its primitivism.
        1. Dear sofa expert. 6 June 2020 11: 07
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          Russian anti-arms lobby impresses with its primitivism

          I about the fact that to render unorganized resistance to the army unit is not to show figurines to sparrows.
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            Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 6 June 2020 13: 38
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            And where did you get the idea that there is no one to organize it ?! There are plenty of civilian veterans and separatist-minded politicians among the administration of a number of states ... One thing is for sure, however much the US fans would like the opposite, there are riots in the USA today, which have not happened since the US Civil War, and what it will result in , wait and see...
            1. Dear sofa expert. 6 June 2020 14: 36
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              It is full of veterans in civilian life.

              Have you seen enough American films?
              By the way, it is strange to hear this from an officer (are you in the Ministry for Emergencies, as it were?).
              And even based on the same American laws on weapons. Do you understand at least that all the weapons in the hands of American "burghers" are purely civilian samples? Difference from military weapons, I hope you know?
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                Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 6 June 2020 14: 54
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                And you know that, for example, a domestic 12 by 70 hunting cartridge equipped with an Pylev-6 impulsive bullet weighing 33,5 grams, although it doesn’t pierce a bulletproof vest, strikes such a force that all internal organs come off under the bulletproof vest, and further wooden tailcoat, from profuse internal bleeding ?! Do you know that 12-gauge pump-action shotguns are in service with dozens of countries of the World ?! I'm not talking about the fact that the army, or at least a part of it, already refuses to comply with Trump’s orders, and the National Guard is not too eager to get their hands dirty with the blood of their own people, next to which they will live next ... You’ll be reminded how during the civil war in Russia, here are the same, in the beginning, the crowds defeated the cadre white guard ?! Everything is not as simple as it seems to you, I’m not writing as a current officer of the Ministry of Emergencies, but as a former special forces officer of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation ... although there are no former officers or former blue ...
                1. Dear sofa expert. 6 June 2020 15: 24
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                  as a former special forces officer of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation ... although, there are no former officers and former blue ...

                  I agree, and I believe you, that’s why I was surprised that you don’t see the difference between civilian weapons (and first of all, their ammunition). The difference of civilian (222 Remington) from army (5,56x45mm NATO) cartridges to M16 (AR15), I hope you know?
                  .. and by the way, do not remind me what a grenade launcher looks like in a civilian version of AR15? (and can this “miracle weapon” fire bursts?)

                  Do you know that 12-gauge pump-action shotguns are in service with dozens of countries of the world?

                  It's generally tin - to hear as an argument from the commandos of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
                  Naturally use. I would look at the miraculous arrow, "naughty" from the "Kalash" or M16 in close combat, while cleaning the room. Well, what are you, generally rushing to extremes?)
                  1. Sapsan136 Online
                    Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 6 June 2020 15: 58
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                    The civilian version of the M-16 differs from the military one only in firing modes ... On the civilian version, it is either single fire or fixed fire, 3 rounds each ... In general, the army, in most cases, shoots in short bursts, 3 rounds each, otherwise, both AK and M-16 simply overheat, from frequent fire, this is not a Maxim machine gun, water-cooled ... replacing the barrel, as on the RPK on AK and M-16 is not provided ... I wrote to you about shotguns because the battles, if they begin, will be fought in city blocks, at short distances, and the transition to the side of the insurgent series of army units, or units of the National Guard, which is quite possible, will add to Trump and his supporters problems, up to their defeat and change of power in the USA ... at least, or lead to the collapse of the United States into several countries, following the example of the USSR.
                    1. Dear sofa expert. 6 June 2020 18: 41
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                      AK and M-16 just overheat, from frequent fire, this is not a Maxim machine gun, with water cooling ...

                      "Maxim" made laugh))

                      Yes, the barrel heats up when fired.

                      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OtFhfwrsWy4

                      On the Kalashnikov Machine Gun (not the PKK), the barrel changes, but even without changing the barrel, if necessary, it will easily provide dagger fire for 500-600 rounds. If the shooter is "with the head", then 1000.

                      This is not about that. It was about the inability of unorganized residents, moreover, armed with civilian weapons, to resist the regular army. They simply will not have a chance to survive.
                      But even if this is left, the already elementary administrative right to openly carry weapons and personal protective equipment gives the soldier a huge advantage over civilians. A soldier with a weapon a priori does not cause anyone extra questions.
                      The second one. Disarming the “civilian” population is easier than you think (by the way, it sounds strange, considering that you are a former employee of the Ministry of Internal Affairs).
                      Do you know how to begin cleaning a settlement or residential area?
                      A curfew is announced, and all the "brave partisans" with their reeds are crawling to begin with - each according to its own "burrows" (houses).
                      So you already divided them.
                      The rest is a matter of technology. Is it really necessary to voice all this now?
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                        bear040 7 June 2020 12: 44
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                        I know that in Chechnya, Ireland, the Basque Country and many other regions, the army units had big problems ... And you tell us about an uncontrollable stupid crowd that will hide weapons ... When it comes to an open confrontation, no one else hides, but the organizers will always be there, do not assume that all people are dumber than a steam locomotive ... The only versions of the Kalashnikov machine gun that are capable of long-term firing are PCs with interchangeable barrels and a Kalashnikov aviation machine gun with air-cooled radiators on its trunk ( such are on helicopters), everything else can fire only in short bursts, in long bursts of short duration ... Your tests for housewives, kill a machine gun to death and make it ineffective, these are slightly different things about which your ignoramuses filming for sofa vidosiki are just they are silent ... A machine gun, or a machine gun is capable of firing until it overheats, then it spits ... Ask what is the difference between your friends who have a battle experience, because to us, apparently, you are not too inclined to believe.
                      2. Dear sofa expert. 7 June 2020 14: 40
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                        I know that in Chechnya, Ireland, the Basque Country and many other regions, the army units had big problems ...

                        Write some nonsense. It was even uninteresting to read further.

                        In both Chechnya and Ireland, the army fought against the army, and not against the Berdank armed population.

                        Ask your friends who have combat experience what the difference is.

                        This you ask. You can have it. I have such an experience. “Bear”, damn it. You can’t pull more than a raccoon.
                      3. Wanderer039 Offline
                        Wanderer039 8 June 2020 04: 53
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                        The experience of drinking in the dugout, like that of one of my friend the political leader, who took the humanitarian aid 1 time, swelled up a week in the rear and put on a sign of the participant in the hostilities, perhaps there is nothing more ... I knew one type that I invented a clique for myself - Dear - he was a coded alcoholic and worked as a janitor ...
                      4. Dear sofa expert. 8 June 2020 10: 23
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                        I knew one type who invented a clique for himself - Dear

                        I feel sorry for you if you don’t even understand basic irony.)
                        It seems that people like you are drinking their brains sitting on sofas .... I will not talk to you at all. You are not worth it.
                  2. Don36 Offline
                    Don36 (Don36) 8 June 2020 05: 50
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                    Our friend Bear 40 is dedicated to the song of the group "Earring '' -" I - Brown Bear ''. Do not waste time on the blonde troll, my friend ...
                  3. Dear sofa expert. 9 June 2020 14: 04
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                    I am addressing you, the three formidable “colonels of (at least) special forces of the Ministry of Internal Affairs” - Sapsan136, bear040, and (to his servant?) The wanderer039, who unlucky supported the “blue-eyed troll”
                    Observer 2014.
                    He announced that:

                    ..Any American will defend his country. Ready fighter. With own weapons in hand. And leave the tales about dry closets and cold Coca-Cola leave where the US military is fighting. Not US citizens. Motivated. And armed to the teeth. Yes, they will smear anyone who just tries to invade their house. Torn into small pieces. Chopped into the trash ..

                    I objected to him:

                    .. to provide unorganized resistance to the army unit - this is not to show figurines to sparrows.

                    You three, trying here, in your not very competent posts, are competent to prove the opposite. In any case, except for alternate rudeness and your readiness to unanimously set infantile minuses to your opponent, I did not see any clear reasoning.
                    So. Want to fight? Let's fight.
                    Situation: You three (colonels of the special forces of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, or how to dignify you there?) Command, well, for example, an African-American civilian armed militia in the amount of, say, an infantry battalion. In your hands are the lives of approximately 800 people, including 100 men, 100 women (20 of them pregnant), 100 old people (30 of them almost non-walking), and about 500 children from adolescence to infants (and where to put them? They are also there) .
                    Of the 100 men (plus 20 old men), 15 veterans (from Vietnam to Afghanistan) who served (1-2) maximum in the rank of corporal (a Negro after all), then 25 drug dealers who can shoot a pistol with a horizontal grip (gangsta style). They don’t know why to keep it that way, but every self-respecting dude shoots like that in films). (There is a joke that in the United States blacks were specially trained to shoot in such a way that they didn’t fall into the police ..)) Whoever holds the gun in his hands knows that this is not far from the truth).
                    Another dozen 20 "craftsmen" sharply grab a revolver and shoot "from the hip" like John Wayne. Negro women rarely held weapons in their hands, because they are always occupied with other objects).

                    All your fighters (from capable ones) are armed with civilian models:
                    1. Semi-automatic AR15 in the amount of 100 pieces, with unlimited ammunition Remington 222 (frantically shoved into jeans pockets).
                    2. Pump-action shotguns, “although they do not penetrate the army body armor, but strike such a force that all internal organs come off under the body armor”, from a distance, the author of this masterpiece phrase has not tactfully indicated. The quantity is also 100 pieces. Ammunition, too - at least one place to eat.
                    3. Nickel-plated (this is required)), also of civilian design, revolvers and pistols (as well as inexhaustible, but the same civilian ammunition for them) of all kinds.
                    4. Communications - cool apple trees, walkie-talkies, carrier pigeons).

                    Well, that's the lyrics.
                    Now let's move on to prose.

                    We have a small village, of which in the USA a dime a do not.
                    Your combat mission: The defense of a settlement by the forces of the "militarily armed" people's militia.

                    Having a more or less combat-ready, but for the most part still not trained detachment, let's say, out of 300 active fighters (men, women, standing old people, adolescents) you have to provide:
                    1. protection of the remaining 500 people.
                    2. Confront the forces of the regular army.

                    The task of your opponent is to capture your locality.
                    You are opposed by a motorized infantry company of the US Army, standard equipment:

                    Personnel - 116 people.
                    BMP M-2 "Bradley" - 13 units.
                    BTR MIZA 1 - 1 unit.
                    7,62 mm machine gun M-60 (M-2400) - 9 units.
                    5,56 mm M16A2 rifle - 75 units
                    ATGM "Dragon" - 9 units.
                    5,56 mm machine gun M249 - 18 units.
                    Radio stations - 28 units.
                    40 mm anti-personnel grenade launcher M-203 - 18 units
                    66-mm anti-tank grenade launcher M-72A2 - 28 units

                    Your actions, gentlemen, great commanders. You can chorus if each individually is not capable.

                    Good luck!
                  4. bear040 Offline
                    bear040 11 June 2020 18: 46
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                    It doesn’t even occur to you that besides clowns who have weapons for show-offs, there are people who are serious, or not so, who are fond of shooting sports and hunting ... I'm not talking about how briskly rebelled the civilian population of Ireland is all in army the parts were recorded, well, at least not the special forces ... I’m not talking about the civil war in Russia, which the peasants won over the cadre officers and the nobility ... Remain with your opinion, on your couch ...
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                    I’m not talking about how you briskly rebelled civilian population of Ireland without exception recorded in the army units, well, at least not special forces ...

                    - the population of Ireland?) Well, well.

                    The Derry Citizens' Defense Association - An Irish paramilitary organization

                    и

                    Official »The Irish Republican Army is an Irish national liberation organization whose goal is to achieve the complete independence of Northern Ireland.

                    - is this, in your opinion, the civilian population?

                    Well, dear, then the British Army and the Royal Ulster Police were also civilians before the service.
                  6. Wanderer039 Offline
                    Wanderer039 12 June 2020 00: 49
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                    An IRA is a party that has taken up arms. In the Russian Empire there were the same Socialist Revolutionaries, for example ... This is just a civilian population, brutalized by government reforms, but not regular army units ... Of course, there is ... the same Zhukov was a non-commissioned officer ... senior and middle level officers you still look in the Red Army, the cat cried for them ... for obvious reasons ... By the way, during the war in Afghanistan, a black man in the US Army could have an officer, non-commissioned, and even more so sergeant rank, so in vain you all blacks were corporalized and privates recorded ... In addition, there are white people who do not like Trump and the police ...
                  7. Dear sofa expert. 12 June 2020 00: 52
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                    IRA is a party ...

                    IRA - Irish Republican Army.
                  8. Dear sofa expert. 12 June 2020 00: 58
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                    Irish Republican Army - this is not a rabble with reeds. These are trained, organized and well-armed militants.
                    A popular uprising in today's America has nothing to do with a combat-ready unit. Against the army, they are children. There was a dispute about this.
                  9. Wanderer039 Offline
                    Wanderer039 12 June 2020 01: 01
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                    IRA - do you think well-trained militants ?! Yes, they became like that, over time, but at first it was only the local population of Ireland furious with the British, who took up arms ... The Socialist-Revolutionaries in the Russian Empire are also difficult to call special forces and army units, and they spoiled a lot of blood to the government ...
                  10. Dear sofa expert. 12 June 2020 01: 07
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                    IRA - do you think well-trained militants ?!

                    That's it, the argument is over. I gave the three of you a combat mission: by the forces of the militia with a total of 800 people, to confront the motorized infantry company of the US Army. So I want to hear from you three “warriors” at least something intelligible on this specific occasion. I gave you the source data.
                    It’s just interesting that you will mumble.
                  11. Don36 Offline
                    Don36 (Don36) 12 June 2020 03: 49
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                    And who are you to give someone tasks ?! By the way, take the trouble to explain where the professional army came from in Ireland, did it fall from the sky, and who trained it ?! Tell us about the Basque separatists, do you think they are also from the moon ?! Tell us about the Red Army of the 1918-20 sample, how it became the army, who trained it, in your opinion, and how much ?! Tell us about how the Negroes threw the French out of Africa, with their education, brilliant officer cadres, cadre soldiers and special forces, who also had experience of World War II ?! Tell us how almost the best British army at that time was defeated in Afghanistan and where are the pros who could beat the British ?! I can go on indefinitely, but your education is hardly enough for a reasonable answer ... Besides stubbornness and conceit on your part, I don’t see anything ...
                  12. Dear sofa expert. 12 June 2020 09: 16
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                    And who are you to give someone tasks ?!

                    And who are you to be responsible for others? Another defender of “weakly arguing”?

                    Tell us about the Basque separatists, do you think they are also from the moon?

                    And who are you to indicate what to tell me? So you tell me about the "civilians ETA".

                    Tell us how blacks kicked French out of Africa

                    Tell it to you. And we all laugh together.
                    France lost its colonies due to its own domestic political instability, weak trade and economic infrastructure, as well as the actual failure of the model of resettlement colonialism. Try to object)

                    the English army was defeated in Afghanistan

                    In Afghanistan, everyone was defeated, starting with Alexander the Great. There is no civilian population - they always fight.
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                    Satellite (Satellite) 12 June 2020 09: 26
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                    In addition to stubbornness and conceit, I see nothing from you ...

                    And about you, I generally feel that under (at least three) last nicknames there is one person (too much style and level is similar)), well, or 3 brothers. One 15, the second 18, the third 20). And each of you, when you can’t cope with the argument, calls for help from the elder)) Well, you put the minus signs of the infantile - this is generally - “we are strength together!))
                    But so far, apart from obstinacy on your part, I see nothing.
                  14. Dear sofa expert. 12 June 2020 10: 06
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                    too style and level is similar)), well, or 3 brothers. One 15, the second 18, the third 20). And each of you, when you do not cope with the argument, calls for help from an older person.

                    Neighing from the heart! ))) It also caught my eye. Especially these obligatory "..." (three points) at the end of each "intricate" post.
                    Yes. The audience is getting smaller on VO.
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                    Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 12 June 2020 18: 09
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                    I can tell you more than three with your level, including Ensign Irochka, who, most likely, doesn’t know how to cook cabbage soup, but wants to manage the state almost. In any case, there is no topic in which your company, in your opinion, would not be super-competent.
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          Satellite (Satellite) 12 June 2020 09: 51
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          IRA is a party ...

          IRA - Irish Republican Army.

          Cons for incorrect translation?)) Translate correctly, and show everyone.
    2. Dear sofa expert. 11 June 2020 21: 38
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      I'm not talking about the civil war in Russia, which the peasants won over the cadre officers and the nobility ...

      The men were on both sides. As well as staff officers. And two armies fought in the “civilian” against each other: the White Guard and the Red Army (Workers 'and Peasants' Red Army).
      Or are there any objections?
  • Dear sofa expert. 6 June 2020 19: 01
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    And here’s “on order” - RPK Test.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=do8ihmoF8JY
  • Dear sofa expert. 6 June 2020 22: 06
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    The civilian version of the M-16 differs from the military only in firing modes.

    The store is different. In civilian - under civilian 222 Remington. And the army - under 5,56 x 45 NATO. It is 3,3 mm longer (and more powerful, of course).
    Well and some other differences.
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    General Black (Gennady) 6 June 2020 20: 22
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    Well, how did he not serve? In VO, he rose to the rank of colonel.
  • Citizen Mѣshkov (Sergѣi) 5 June 2020 21: 34
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    Means the difficulty of electing Trump for a second term. This is at least.
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      Means the difficulty of electing Trump for a second term. This is at least.

      These difficulties are already familiar. Will be overcome again.
      1. Citizen Mѣshkov (Sergѣi) 6 June 2020 02: 34
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        By the end of this year, we'll see.
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        Oyo Sarkazmi (Oyo Sarkazmi) 6 June 2020 14: 53
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        Quote: Dear couch expert.
        Will be overcome again.

        Putin will order - Americans will answer "I am listening!"
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    Natan bruk (Natan Bruk) 6 June 2020 09: 01
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    Again hopes. Then another disappointment. I remember how Russian “analysts” were excited at one time when, after Obama’s second victory, the circus began with the “separation of Texas” and other states. In all seriousness, they told that the United States would break up almost tomorrow, the names were given to the new states that were formed on the site of the United States, they discussed what kind of relations they would have with them, they invited representatives of this clownery for an interview. Then, so quietly, they stopped discussing this topic. Now the same thing again.