Schroeder: Not a single Russian president will give Crimea back to Ukraine


Former German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder is confident that Russia will never return Crimea back to Ukraine. He made such a statement during an interview with the German daily newspaper Der Tagesspiegel.


Not a single Russian president will give Crimea back to Ukraine

- stated Schroeder.

The words of the German statesman provoked indignation and aggravation of “patriotism” among Andriy Melnyk, the ambassador of Ukraine to Germany, who called them “shameless”.

Schroeder’s shameless statements about sanctions and the Crimea are just a cry of despair from the Kremlin’s top lobbyist, who is losing ground. Even this last heavy artillery will not help. Ukraine appreciates Berlin's reinforced concrete position on maintaining sanctions and non-recognition of annexation

- wrote Melnik in his Twitter account.

After that, Melnik, exclusively in the style of modern Ukrainian diplomacy, suggested to Schroeder to bet that Crimea would certainly return to Ukraine.

I would like to announce this 76-year-oldpolicies and to the Kremlin’s top lobbyist a peculiar bet: even during his lifetime, Crimea will certainly return to the bosom of mother Ukraine. It is as obvious as the fact that the sun rises in the East and sets in the West

- said Melnik, in an interview with Ukrainian national news agency Ukrinform.

It should be noted that in connection with the statement of Schroeder and the statement of Melnik, we can expect that in the near future a lot of “Crimean women - daughters of officers” will appear on social networks. They will be “genuinely alarmed” by Schroeder’s high salary at Rosneft, where he works “only” as chairman of the Board of Directors. But nothing will change from this.
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  1. Sapsan136 Offline
    Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 3 May 2020 20: 41
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    Inclined to agree with Schroeder! The one who tries to give Crimea is cursed in Russia !!! His career will be definitely short-lived and will end on the block, or on the run from the country!
    1. Observer2014 Offline
      Observer2014 4 May 2020 15: 22
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      Inclined to agree with Schroeder! The one who tries to give Crimea is cursed in Russia !!! His career will be definitely short-lived and will end on the block, or on the run from the country!

      And you didn’t get tired of hiding behind Crimea alone? am What has been really done over so many years? What was needed for his people? For so many years in power.
      1. Sapsan136 Offline
        Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 4 May 2020 16: 37
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        Ask Putin and his party, I’m not a member of it, so the question is not addressed!
        1. Observer2014 Offline
          Observer2014 4 May 2020 16: 47
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          Quote: Sapsan136
          Ask Putin and his party, I’m not a member of it, so the question is not addressed!

          Can I remember? This is exactly from you! Thank! hi And that’s what I just didn’t hear from you. This is not even an impression. And literally some kind of karma, that Crimea, it was that only bright and warming at least some patriotic hope in our hearts! People need more than just hope! And confidence in the future. And Muscovites are far away ... ohhh not all Russians. hi wink
          1. Sapsan136 Offline
            Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 4 May 2020 20: 47
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            What surprises you? Did I once wrote that I voted for Vova, or am I a member of United Russia ?! Yes, I support the return of Crimea to the Russian Federation, and yes, in my opinion, this is the only, or almost the only thing, useful for the country that Vova did. I am not a Muscovite and not a Petersburger, I live in a rather poor province, although everything is relative and against the background of a number of villages and such a mountain of cities as Rostov the Great, I live in a fairly pleasant city and is not sour, although, the same Zyuganov, have it my income, I would have died of hunger long ago, or hanged myself ... I am for the indigenous population of Russia, and yes, all these Polish Ukrainians such as Nohalny or Makaronych make me very anxious to buy them a one-way ticket to their historical Motherland! If a foreigner (a foreigner, if you like) has the audacity to command in a strange house, then he is no longer a guest, but an occupier! And I don’t need to write the opposite, I have too many friends who were almost kicked out of the republics of the former USSR, into their Russia ... Well, if Georgia and others are so independent and independent that we don’t have the right to say a word, and more often than not even living on bird’s rights, it’s an unforgivable impudence to download rights in the Russian Federation to immigrants from these countries with Russophobia! And yes, if the next president of Russia returns to Russia the Cossack lands stolen from Russia by the same Kazakhstan, or Nikolaev stolen from the Bandera beast from Russia, I will support this decision !!!
            1. Observer2014 Offline
              Observer2014 4 May 2020 20: 50
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              What surprises you? Did I once wrote that I voted for Vova, or am I a member of United Russia ?! Yes, I support the return of Crimea to the Russian Federation, and yes, in my opinion, this is the only, or almost the only thing, useful for the country that Vova did. I am not a Muscovite and not a Petersburger, I live in a rather poor province, although everything is relative and against the background of a number of villages and such a mountain of cities as Rostov the Great, I live in a fairly pleasant city and is not sour, although, the same Zyuganov, have it my income, I would have died of hunger long ago, or hanged myself ... I am for the indigenous population of Russia, and yes, all these Polish Ukrainians such as Nohalny or Makaronych make me very anxious to buy them a one-way ticket to their historical Motherland! If a foreigner (a foreigner, if you like) has the audacity to command in a strange house, then he is no longer a guest, but an occupier! And I don’t need to write the opposite, I have too many friends who were almost kicked out of the republics of the former USSR, into their Russia ... Well, if Georgia and others are so independent and independent that we don’t have the right to say a word, and more often than not even living on bird’s rights, it’s an unforgivable impudence to download rights in the Russian Federation to immigrants from these countries with Russophobia!

              And this is just your verbiage. hi yes
              1. Sapsan136 Offline
                Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 4 May 2020 21: 09
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                hi Well, if it seems to you that I'm saying something very stupid, or wild, in your opinion, and you consider yourself very smart and the only right one, then write to Margetsky who has the same opinion about himself .... You just find a friend friend ...
    2. Digital error Offline
      Digital error (Eugene) 4 May 2020 15: 56
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      Quote: Sapsan136
      The one who tries to give Crimea is cursed in Russia!

      I agree.

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      His career will be definitely short-lived

      Is not a fact. According to Article 93 of the Constitution, the President of the Russian Federation can be removed from office in case of simultaneous (within three months) "consent" of the Federation Council, State Duma, Armed Forces, the Constitutional Court. It’s complicated, don’t you find it (it’s right - the “electoral” choice of the majority in the presidential election should be protected from encroachment)? For comparison, a deputy’s request to the Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation on the constitutionality of raising the retirement age was considered for more than 3 months.

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      and end on the block

      On November 19, 2009, the Constitutional Court passed a ruling that prohibited the courts from imposing death sentences. This was explained by the fact that Russia has already undergone an irreversible transition to the fulfillment of its international obligations to humanize legislation.

      Quote: Sapsan136
      or fleeing the country

      It is possible. Is Gorbachev not living in London?
      1. Sapsan136 Offline
        Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 4 May 2020 16: 36
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        The USSR Constitution also prohibited the transfer of part of one republic to another, but Khrushchev didn’t stop the company and the referendum on Crimea neither in Crimea nor in the RSFSR was held in 1954 ... The tsar (president, secretary general) rules only until then while the people and the army endure it, nothing more !!!
    3. Bitter Offline
      Bitter (Gleb) 5 May 2020 09: 11
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      His career will be definitely short-lived and will end on the block ...

      Come on. Somewhere quite nearby another Boris Nikolayevich is already growing up with a fig in his pocket and extraordinary thinking, so there are always options. Both in the west and in the east of the country. For a short career, you can break so much wood that several generations will not be able to disentangle.

      "not a single president ......"

      And here the president, he just expresses the aspirations of the people. And in order for him to begin to “tea” as it should, conditions must be created. There Mishan and Boriska from the bottom of their hearts “had fun” and no one had a decree, but on the contrary, they awarded and immortalized them.
      1. Sapsan136 Offline
        Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 5 May 2020 11: 38
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        The times of Judas Gorbachev and Boriski the Drunk are in the past, now the people are different, the rebellion will be not only among the people, but also in the army, and it will be very fast. Boriska Russia did not bring half a step to a new revolution. It may break firewood, but alive, most likely, it will not go away. New Gorbachev will be hanged in Russia! Will you show me those who now seriously consider it possible to be friends with the United States ?! There are only a few such units, and in the late 80s many people really believed in it. Peace, fraternity, chewing gum, detente, general prosperity ... The 90s became for everyone who believed in these fables an icy sobering soul ... Today, only foreigners from parties want to be friends with the United States, or rather, six against them. like Apple, and their rating in the Russian Federation is lower than the plinth.
        1. Bitter Offline
          Bitter (Gleb) 5 May 2020 23: 50
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          ... now the people are different, the rebellion will be ...

          The people are the same. It’s just that the situation in the country needs to be adjusted to the desired result.
          Now more or less pacified by the work of the authorities, but it’s much better if you didn’t remove a bunch of used foreign cars and the mass of another, mainly Chinese consumer goods. But, in fact, in a nutshell, at first they did very very badly, changed the direction of cash flows and pocketed power. And then, when it began to run out of steam, they began to release money for health care and for improvement, and to hell knows what else. In general, they did almost the same as it was, and it seemed that everything was just brilliant. However, the price paid by the people for the enrichment of several hundred scammers and crooks from politics and economics was enormous. And in terms of the loss of territories, so in general, sheer kaput, Hitler with his associates and BNU in the company in the next world dance with tambourines with happiness.
          In general, there will be no riots. None. Today's government will not allow it.
          1. Wanderer039 Offline
            Wanderer039 7 May 2020 02: 33
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            Who is such a power, without the support of the army and the people, did not think well? And I will answer you - this is a rat that will run away from the people's anger in a woman’s skirt, like Kerensky !!! Confidence in the Gorbachevs in Russia is zero, or rather, with a big minus sign and this is for centuries! As for the Yavlinsky and Navalny, their rating in the Russian Federation is below 5%, and all their gangs consist of Russophobia-infected foreigners, who in the Russian Federation have hardly been tolerated for a long time !!!
            1. Bitter Offline
              Bitter (Gleb) 7 May 2020 10: 16
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              power, without the support of the army and people

              Beautiful words, no more.
              I had the pleasure, in the 90s, to observe what an army is without the support of the authorities, and the people didn’t really like it.
              Uncle will come and say again, “we don’t need an army” and that’s it. Laws and Constitutions, written on paper, remain there, if they are not actually applied, and it does not matter, for some good reasons or cunning plans.
              But you can do it beautifully, having created all the prerequisites and conditions for this, only the phase, maybe a little longer. Perestroika, too, was "rocked" for a relatively long time, it turned out. Now the capital is in power, he will be able to protect his property, this is not for you the people's police or the army.
              1. Sapsan136 Offline
                Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 7 May 2020 22: 11
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                In the World there was a mass of revolutions and a mass of severed heads of kings, who considered it beautiful words. Madame de Pompadour lived, spitting on the people, under the slogan - After us, at least the flood. The flood came for her, and not for the people who executed this medieval Sobchak ... You needlessly compare the 80s, 90s and our days. Now other people do not believe in the tales of rulers, even by 5% of how the population of the USSR believed in the newspaper Pravda! Those people were much easier to deceive ... Gorbachev, on the corpses of political killings, brought Andropov to power ... So, without the Yankee apparatus sold by the KGB, Gorbachev would have been a guard on his collective farm ... Yeltsin would also have been there if it hadn't been for the tanks who shot parliament on his orders ... Nobody will be left without an army ... And yes, the army remembers how much rubbish was treated and more. like a hunchback and a drunk, he will not support !!!
                1. Bitter Offline
                  Bitter (Gleb) 7 May 2020 22: 57
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                  80s, 90s and today, now other people ...

                  People are the same, times are different, yes. yes

                  they don’t believe in the tales of rulers ..

                  Pompadour, tra la la. Rulers are not fools either, they have learned something from all times. A little balance to keep, strong personalities to establish and neutralize and. etc.

                  Those people were much easier to fool ...

                  And these, too, you just need to create "public opinion" from the TVs and the Internet, that's all. good

                  the army remembers how it was treated ...

                  There is no longer that army, replaced by a new and loyal one. Today's army, if necessary, will roll all these demonstrations into asphalt concrete and will not sneeze. Although it will not be needed anymore, the Rosguard with the police is better equipped, trained and fired, it will cope much more effectively. hi
                  1. Sapsan136 Offline
                    Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 8 May 2020 11: 13
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                    soldier Learned ?! Yeltsin did not bring half a step to the civil war, but you say, you learned. To learn, you need to have a mind, and it gives way to permissiveness there, on this they will all be burnt and will burn! Don’t tell me laugh, today no one believes in the promise of the promise, as the newspaper Pravda believed in the USSR. Is it loyal ... The personnel still do not live ah and if layoffs and allowances loom ahead, I will not give a broken penny for the loyalty of the army. In the army, too, the incomes of generals and rank and file (junior officers) differ in the same way as the incomes of Chubais and the cleaning lady Aunt Dusi, there is a gap between them and it is only growing. Where is the police fired ?! Well, of course, riot police and special forces of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, they don’t care, they don’t get out of the Caucasus, but from all these supposedly guardsmen they use the PPS as a goat’s milk, shooting training and then ... you should have seen it ... And what for demonstrations, it’s necessary to include your head before you go to the demonstration, you need to understand who organizes it and for what purpose. You need to understand that the interests of Yavlinsky and Nokhalny are the interests of the United States, not Russia !!!
                    1. Bitter Offline
                      Bitter (Gleb) 9 May 2020 01: 48
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                      Yeltsin did not bring half a step to the civil war, but you say ...

                      Well? Can someone refute that this was not the case? He is a very respected gentleman in the Russian elites, this already says a lot. They are the same "patriots", like him, only smarter. They saw that he was playing too much and immediately moved, but the course set by Boris Nikolaevich remained so.

                      no one believes how the Pravda newspaper believed in the USSR.

                      All Pravda newspapers and the faith in what the leaders said (especially the Communist Party) from the stands for decades to come were very gracefully compromised. After all, this ***** came to power by deception, a kind of Trojan horse turned out to be. It looked like a distinguished communist and leader with a great experience, but in reality it turned out that it was impossible to find decent words.

                      The personnel still live not ah and if ahead lay off staff reductions and allowances.

                      Who cares? Moscow divisions will always cover their government with paychecks, rations, and everything else, they have an order of magnitude more decent. The rest will have enough ballet, while generals with colonels and priests will explain to them that this is a normal process.

                      you need to turn on your head before you go to the demonstration ...

                      There will be no real demonstrations, no one benefits and does not need. All the national economy is already divided or sold out, and in the public sector, “their” people also rule from above. Capital will be able to protect itself.
                      Somewhere I heard from people, "we don’t care that" they "steal and how much, if only they would not touch us." These are the slogans of the inhabitants.
                      1. Sapsan136 Offline
                        Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 9 May 2020 10: 41
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                        Wait, see what to argue something ?! Forecasts - a thing not at all grateful ...
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                        Bitter (Gleb) 10 May 2020 01: 42
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                        I agree, but in principle, we are not talking about forecasts, but about trust in politicians and authorities. Unfortunately, it is not so much at all. request
                      3. Sapsan136 Offline
                        Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 11 May 2020 22: 18
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                        Well, politicians and authorities need to be soared about this, and they don’t really reckon with the opinion of the indigenous population of the Russian Federation when making decisions. In this situation, the return will be appropriate. The force of action is equal to the force of reaction - the law of physics. If the government doesn’t give a damn about the people, it will appoint a new government and no gendarmes of the guarded bureaucrats will save. Spit on the people, it does not care against the wind. Unfortunately, it comes to them as tightly as a giraffe. Therefore, they chop heads with all these (kings).
                      4. Bitter Offline
                        Bitter (Gleb) 13 May 2020 00: 08
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                        ... they do not reckon with the opinion of the indigenous population of the Russian Federation.

                        Why, then, is everything just fine? The question is, what opinion of what part of the Russian population do they consider more authoritative?
                        The indigenous population in some sense, this is that goby on a rope.

                        You’ll sing him a little
                        And do what you like with him.

                        - law of physics.

                        Yes, yes, but no. There are living people, but they can be manipulated. The government has enough resources, material and medial, as well as means to ensure that various instigators are identified, bought, compromised or planted on time. Forget about the heads of kings, look at the example of Spanish Catalonia, became very independent.
                      5. Sapsan136 Offline
                        Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 13 May 2020 09: 44
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                        Already not a ride. There is a limit of trust, but it is exhausted. The rating, even officially, fell by more than 30%. And note, this is said by Levada, who always drew 110%, even when people spit and did not go to the polls, believing that there were no worthy candidates on the lists who could be voted for. Catalonia is a bad example, because if they spit on it a couple of times, they will receive a second Basque country and terrorist attacks that will make Madrid shudder for a long time ... Unfortunately, in Russia, because of the Kremlin's dope, the same thing can start and now I not about Chechnya, tyranny of power fed up with many regions. The governors proposed isolating the regions with the same coronovirus, Moscow refused ... Do you think that if now, in the Kremlin’s dope, quarantine is lifted in the Russian Federation and the disease and deaths grow rapidly in Russia, Moscow and Vova personally will forgive this ?! I don’t think so and it’s not the governors who will blame, but personally Vova and his prime minister ... I’m not happy with the prospects for the collapse of the Russian Federation, but the phrase “Moscow is far away and it doesn’t give a damn about us, I hear very often practically all over Russia ... here it’s not local, but Muscovites who do not care about everything and everyone except themselves and their hunks!
                      6. Bitter Offline
                        Bitter (Gleb) 14 May 2020 09: 52
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                        in the dope of the Kremlin, in the Russian Federation quarantine will be lifted and in the Russian Federation will begin

                        No, just the exact opposite. Moscow makes and reports, and the regions clamp down and do not carry on. For example, the same payments to health workers and other hospital staff. Apparently, they are trying to scroll this loot one more time before giving it to the recipient, or maybe even pinching it. The president, by the way, is doing his job, of course, you can criticize and even need to. But he managed to find a balance between "business" and "slaves" and he, not really straining, tries to keep it. All these perturbations in Ukraine, in the Crimea and Syria play into the hands, if they were not there, then they would have to be invented and arranged. yes

                        ... I'm not talking about Chechnya now ...

                        It’s a sin for Chechnya to complain at all, they have already almost reached “communism” in a particular region. Otherwise, Allah may punish. am

                        tyranny of power fed up with many regions.

                        They themselves want to be happy, but the feds hit on the fingers. good

                        Already not a ride. There is a limit of trust, but it is exhausted.

                        That is exactly what I wanted to say. No sabbath will take a ride, the authorities are ready. soldier
                      7. Sapsan136 Offline
                        Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 15 May 2020 11: 17
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                        The President and the Prime Minister do their job poorly, as:
                        1) they did not send to strict quarantine infectious tourists who arrived in the Russian Federation from foreign countries;
                        2) did not allow the governors to enter quarantine in the regions and thereby block the roads in the Russian Federation from infecting individuals fleeing from Moscow to the regions ...
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                        Bitter (Gleb) 17 May 2020 20: 22
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                        They do it normally, just recommendations and instructions often remain the same. Maybe this is wrong, but for me it is.
                        The center should create a common, standard package of measures, and on the ground (in the provinces) should be able to tighten them, but not weaken them. But the power vertical seems to have many holes, cracks and various nodules and “vertebrae” with exclusive telephone rights, so it’s not so simple.

                        they did not send in strict quarantine contagious tourists who arrived in the Russian Federation from foreign countries.

                        But what about human rights and freedom of movement? It was necessary to agree with businessmen in advance, and if the planes did not fly, there would be no tourists. But business is indomitable, especially if everything is there.

                        prevented the governors from introducing quarantine in the regions and thereby blocking roads in the Russian Federation from infecting individuals fleeing from Moscow to the regions ..

                        Moscow within the Russian Federation has great authority and there were almost zero infectious persons there until recently, so the governors, apparently, were not a decree.
                        But now, some governors with local businessmen, apparently in revenge, decided to squeeze money for hospital workers. Nonsense.
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                        Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 21 May 2020 22: 06
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                        Freedom of movement, if it entails infecting other people with a fatal disease, should be limited, up to forcibly being sent to a hospital and armed convoy. Most people like me and myself have no desire to die because of infectious tourists who are not observing quarantines, who were also taken to the Russian Federation from all kinds of Thailand at the expense of the budget ... As for me, let them pay the transportation at their own expense, and there is no money, so arrange them as a loan, at a minimum interest, or even interest-free, but let them pay. We didn’t send them to Thailand, but they are obliged to pay for entertainment themselves ... In China, they generally shoot for quarantine violation ... It’s better to shoot a dozen boors who are not written laws than to bury hundreds or thousands of people from an epidemic ... If Putin doesn’t limit the movement of infectious Muscovites in the Russian Federation, they will simply begin to kill them in the province ... And in prison, when a person and his family are threatened with death from infection, they will not scare anyone ... People want to live here too, if that ... is enough spit on us and our interests!
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    steelmaker 3 May 2020 21: 09
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    ... even during his lifetime, Crimea will certainly return to the bosom of his mother - Ukraine.

    Rather, Ukraine will return to the bosom of its mother - Russia. But this will not be under Putin!

    ... so it happened - historically,
    not be America mistress
    in Ukraine - never!
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      Observer2014 4 May 2020 15: 19
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      Rather, Ukraine will return to the bosom of its mother - Russia. But this will not be under Putin!

      yes good
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      Bitter (Gleb) 6 May 2020 00: 00
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      ... not under Putin!

      Already nobody will return anywhere. A certain semblance of Poland is emerging from Ukraine, which in the future will be more likely to oppose itself to Russia than to be friends with it. The moment was missed even with a man-icebreaker, and maybe earlier. On purpose or out of disorder, this is still hard to understand. But something prompts, rather, the first. Otherwise, he would not be an icebreaker.
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    Astronaut (San Sanych) 3 May 2020 21: 13
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    Funny svidomye politicians, so spit in the direction of the obvious. laughing
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    aleksandrmakedo (Dubovitsky Victor Kuzmich) 3 May 2020 23: 35
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    I agree to be an arbiter in betting. But with the condition - the loser falls on the guillotine.
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    Bulanov (Vladimir) 3 May 2020 23: 38
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    Pan Miller! Well, Crimea does not want to talk on a mov. They themselves were to blame when the Russians were banned from using their native language. New Russia is suffering, but with difficulty.
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    beeper 4 May 2020 00: 44
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    The level of “Ukrainian diplomacy” was previously low, but after the “Euromaidan” and publicly chanting the Russophobic slavish “maidanominist” Deshchitsy (this is a “speaking surname”, such people have long been given the genetic head of the clan “according to characteristic merit” - the same as and Trifle-Nullity, if translated from "der.movy"), he generally "fell below the plinth" and never "wrung out" - these are so, unaccounted for by the Americans, unrealistic (patamushta, they lost all sense of reality !!!) degenerates- Maydaunas rule! request

    Gerhard Schroeder is a world-respected man and an authoritative, experienced, state politician, ex-chancellor who in his lifetime has become an outstanding historical figure with an honorable place in modern history, as the German Reunitor!
    And then some kind of Maidan mongrel from the Berlin "ukroambassady" something yapping at him ??! crying
    Dear Gerhard Schroeder, he knows well what he is saying! And here all Ukrainian presidents and their minions ~ 30 years, they have been dribbling and dribbling Ukraine without realizing themselves the report on the consequences of their actions and inaction! request
    With the gift to the "non-occupants" (from the drunken EBN, in Bialowieza drunk by Kravchuk - according to his "heroic stories" in an interview with Ukrainian journalists !!!) the Crimean peninsula with a multinational population turned out exactly as in the famous saying:

    What we have - we do not store, having lost - we cry!

    In fact, these are the “lost lands” anti-people-anti-state parasites — the “Maidan power” and the kleptoligarchs –– “w / Banderaites” who feed it, with their Bandera-Nazi servants and Svidomo “groupies” —that leaves the ground under Ukraine! Yes, so that the Phashington "watching" -Kiev ameropolist will not be able to help them "in case of what" .... winked
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      Bitter (Gleb) 9 May 2020 02: 06
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      Correction

      a historical figure with a place of honor in recent history, as the Reunitor of Germany!

      The reconnector is not Mr. Schroeder at all, but Helmut Kohl.


      Helmut loaned money, it’s time for it and overturn a pile.
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        beeper 9 May 2020 11: 54
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        hi Well, yes, Dear Vitter, you are right (thanks for the amendment, because I myself repeat too lazy to clarify!), good this is G. Kohl for the Germans, in recent history, their Reunitor - so to speak, the Collector of German Lands! yes
        But this doesn’t at all cancel the flawed shallow and blatant lack of professionalism of the "Ukrainians" Maidan "diplomats!" request

        Happy Victory Day !!! drinks
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          Bitter (Gleb) 9 May 2020 21: 59
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          it doesn’t at all cancel the flawed shallow and blatant lack of professionalism of the "Ukrainians" Maidan "diplomats"!

          No, of course, but it seems to me that the paradox lies in the fact that they work on the project and for money, and do not represent the interests of the people or most of it. After all, a 180 ° turn from campaign promises is difficult to explain in another way. Professionalism in this case is not in demand, the result is needed and the worse, the better. Very sorry. sad
          Happy Holidays!

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            beeper 10 May 2020 01: 38
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            hi Thank you, Comrade Bitter! Victory Day is our common holiday! soldier

            And for "Ukraine-AntiRussia" the Washington project, on which (of course, to the extent of its kleptoprofessionalism and degree of amerocholism!) all the Ukrainian dillies and Ukrainian prime ministers "worked" without exception, and it was called since 1991 - the Ukraine project!
            Nobody really hid it (Kuchman even sprinkled a book with that name, did he ?!)!
            Indeed, from Bialowieza, the EBN, Kravchuk and Shushkevich first reported to US President Bush Sr. about the act of destroying the USSR and the start of their own, “independently-independent” American puppet “national projects”, having received a “reign of reign” from the Washington paKhan!
            But, successfully developing, in the "saints of the 90s", under the supervision of the Phashington "advisers", the Russian amerocolonial destructive "project", already since 2000, slowed down V.V. Putin (it’s precisely the "general people" who annoy him blaming for allegedly "undemocratic"!).
            And in Belarus, the American-colonial “project”, back in 1994, very harshly succeeded the Shushkevich who replaced the AHL (for which he was called the “last dictator of Europe” and ostracized by the Fashington “hegemons”).
            But if a more broad-minded and adequate V.V. Putin still somehow still resists the machinations of the transcendent "common people" and the "fifth column" in Russia itself, then the Belarusian "father" after the "Euro Maid" events of 2014 was clearly frightened and mistaken decided that his personal power was threatened by the Russians and Moscow, and not by Fashington and Brussels (as well as all kinds of “Neolithians”, “zmagars” and other local Nazi shelupon sponsored by “common people”, who practiced the killings on the neighboring Euromaidan and Bandera-Nazi promotions "throughout Ukraine, os Benno-Donbas!) ?!
            And the AHL (I am sorry for this confused man who, at the age of his age, drowned so incompetently "in power" and indulging destructive neo-Nazi-Russophobes, because I remember well and sincerely thank Alexander Grigoryevich for the former kind attitude towards Belarusian mothers and Chernobyl children, for their free school meals and annual health improvement in sanatoriums, including next to the presidential residence on the "Tsar Lake" Naroch-Ukraine, this was unthinkable, grateful for our Belarusian old people, kindly treated by the state and felt their self-respecting people, and not, like Ukrainian pensioners, an annoying “biomass”!), completely flirting with the openly hating Natsik and Americans, he began to suicidally “catch up (completely to the detriment of his country and the vital interests of the majority of the Belarusian population!) lost” moving in wake proffYesor "Yanukovych with the same" fidgeting "and situational" curtsy "in all directions ...
            A vivid "lesson" of anti-people-anti-state "non-alternative European integration", unprincipledly playing with local Natsiks and heartfelt "advisers", professional Judeo-Mazepintsy Yanukovych-Azarov, did not go to the AHL for the future, apparently he is from those people who "learn" only "from their own mistakes "????! winked
            Well, Ukrainian officials, for a long time, are almost completely unprofessional
            (there’s nothing to “demand” from them even for a lot of money - an example is the high-paid leaders of Naftogaz!), even those who knock with their heels in front of the public and their masters, who are universal, are self-promotingly crucifying themselves in their supposedly "competency"! request
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              Bitter (Gleb) 10 May 2020 02: 00
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              EBN, Kravchuk and Shushkevich reported first thing ...

              Here, perhaps, there is some truth, if Mr. Yeltsin was not a sold skin, Ukraine would not have disappeared anywhere, and others too. But it turned out without, BUT. sad

              ... since 2000, Vladimir Putin slowed down ...

              Maybe sometimes it looks like it’s slowed down, and sometimes it’s like it’s just a little streamlined and humanized. request

              ... mistakenly decided that his personal power was threatened by the Russians and Moscow ...

              He also has the appropriate services, advisers and all kinds of scammers and scouts, there is no smoke without fire.
              And with confidence in Russia, after the act of annihilation of the USSR and the beginning of its own, "independently-independent" American puppet "national projects",
              somehow it’s not very much, and not only in Belarus. recourse
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                beeper 10 May 2020 02: 12
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                He also has the appropriate services, advisers and all kinds of scammers and scouts, there is no smoke without fire.
                And with confidence in Russia, after the act of the destruction of the USSR and the beginning of their own, "independently-independent" American puppet "national projects",
                somehow it’s not very much, and not only in Belarus. recourse

                hi Of course not Russian and non-Russian “independent fallow” amerocholov have more trust in the American United States than in Russia — don’t go to your grandmother! wink
                “There is no smoke without fire” about the backstage American “guarantees” of the PapaKoli family attached to the “helm of power”, and about the “intelligence data” - it depends on the speaker, but pro-American “agents of influence” have long ruled the AHL, they’re manipulating him "fears" in the anti-Russian direction, alas!
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                  Bitter (Gleb) 10 May 2020 21: 36
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                  Russian and non-Russian “independent fallow” amerocholov have more trust in the American United States than in Russia — don’t go to your grandmother!

                  Definitely. Work with them is regularly carried out. Somewhere they get it at the back of the head, but they also give out cookies, they brought chocolates and even a barrel of honey. Many eat, drink, flowing over the mustache, but do not get into the mouth. Everyone wants to continue to eat hearty and sleep sweetly. And this must be practiced.
                  See how Russian bad boys and their families live in retirement. They have everything that your heart desires and do not forget to regularly fill up and top up.
                  There was the Soviet Union, they also worked with people and countries, and had their influence there. Now the USSR, thanks primarily to Russia, is no more. Decades later, another, capitalist-oligarchic Russia decided to take its place. But in Europe, other uncles and aunts have long come, who successfully occupied the places freed from the USSR and are successfully moving their projects.
                  Comrade Stalin did not in vain after the war divided Europe and figuratively spread the hooligans in different angles, precisely because he wanted to avoid something of the kind in the future.
                  What the most talented fathers of the people and democracy of Russia did at the end of the 20th century, he did not even dream of in his nightmare. And not only to him, I think that the royal people, looking at this circus in the nineties, turned over in tombs more than once.

                  ... surrounded by the AHL, pro-American "agents of influence" have long been in charge, they manipulate him

                  Why aren’t Russian agents there? Where have they been? Have they compromised themselves and were driven out? From the West, American capitalists, and from the East, Russian well-protected oligarchy. Both want this “last cake” in Europe to snatch for themselves.
                  It’s clear that AHL is one, but it is always more difficult for one to keep balance.
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                    beeper 10 May 2020 22: 53
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                    hi Comrade Gleb, it’s impossible to ask the right question if you don’t know more than half the answer! smile
                    And the questions you have, I see, are formulated correctly, so do you know the answers to them ?! wink
                    The blame for this, as with the “Russian influence” in Ukraine, is the incorrect, initially disastrous, “subsidized transit” concept of ongoing “fraternal diplomacy” and “betting on the wrong guys (both in Ukraine and Belarus, and among their own diplomats, appointed to the "fraternal countries" by the residual principle, although what kind of "diplomats" of the non-profit "pure gesheftmahhers" Chernomyrdin or Zurabov are the same flawed laymen, like their Ukrainian counterparts, who simply took the back of those fined loafers who a priori кneighboring "honorary link" as a "sinecure", Russia better and richer covered "!
                    The cunning "comrade Stalin" didn’t have a nightmare in his dreams, otherwise he wouldn’t attach him to our Soviet Ukraine, as a most insidious pest, as a most insidious pest! There would have been no such problems from these hereditary Euro-minions, who have now occupied the whole of Ukraine and, in their own way, having bored, in their own way, a part of our population and genocide of another, our rebellious subjugated Galician occupants!
                    And with the choice of his “inner circle”, where “cadres decide everything” in a special way, Joseph Vissarionych would be more scrupulous then!
                    And if someone was brought closer to himself, then there was no need to humiliate such people in every possible way and put their wives in jail, because, in any case, there is "sediment" and there is no "hope" for such an "offended by tsar's disgrace" - which then appeared!
                    And any ruler who cares about his state (and not about maintaining personal power up to a completely incapable marasmic state) needs to prepare a successor in time, ensuring timely transfer of power and the continuity of the course of state building (of course, if this course is chosen correctly and leads to progress and the prosperity of the state and the majority of citizens, and not the decay and decay of the state and the robbery-impoverishment of the majority of the population. s not waiting for "disasters" and foreign interference!) keeping in mind the goal of achieving full development and health promotion, maintenance of high fertility and welfare of all citizens of the state and the protection of their rights and dignity from external and internal attacks!
                    But so far, alas, nothing of the kind we see and feel in our post-Soviet "neocapitalist (and in our Ukraine also neocolonial!) Space"!
                    AHL is not alone, but with sons! yes It swims, rules the country, without a rudder and without sails, without a common Goal, convulsively trying to stay longer at the “helm of power” with all its paws - for this I’m ready to plunge Belarus into nationalist timelessness and chaos, like Prem Yanukovych with his sons (with Prime Minister Azarov and son ), also attached to the “helm”, with their mercantile “fidgets” plunged Ukraine into Bandera-Nazi timelessness, the chaos of the civil war and “non-alternative” amerocolonialism, coupled with the destructive cave Russophobia!
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    Igor Pavlovich (Igor Pavlovich) 4 May 2020 10: 42
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    It was necessary for Schroeder to use the historical response of the fortress chief of the Turkish commander-in-chief Aidozle-Mehmet Pasha to the ultimatum of Suvorov -

    Rather, the Danube will flow back and the sky will fall to the ground than Ishmael will surrender. (Crimea).

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      Wanderer039 7 May 2020 02: 39
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      Do not forget that the supposedly impregnable Ishmael was taken by the Russian army, and not by the Bandera SS gang !!!
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        Igor Pavlovich (Igor Pavlovich) 7 May 2020 08: 12
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        Are you feeling well? What temperature?
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    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 4 May 2020 14: 04
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    Of course not. Neither Crimea, nor the Director’s salary.
    Money does not smell.
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  • If the deutsche dealers behave well, we will return Silesia to them.
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      Bitter (Gleb) 6 May 2020 09: 07
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      Hee-hee, and along with the Romanians and Moldova, and the Poles of Lemberg. good
      On the sidelines of Europe, an opinion is already forming that Germany and Berlin, in particular, were liberated by Polish troops in the forefront. So, the work of the HMS and BNE lives and works. And Crimea is such a tiny little drop of compensation for all floating away territories and sold victories, of course, no one will give it back. Therefore, Mr. Schroeder, of course, is a truth-teller. laughing