Why the Golden Ruble is eligible for return


The processes taking place in the world are increasingly called the harbingers of the new "Great Depression." The coronavirus pandemic paralyzed the normal functioning of an entire planet; demand and industrial production fell. Oil and gas prices, this “global blood the economy", Beat the record.


It is necessary to somehow escape, but the ways for this are different for everyone. Already, one thing is clear: everyone is definitely not able to swim together, someone will have to drown.

In Russia, it is traditionally customary to keep savings in dollars and euros, not trusting our “wooden” one too much. But in the face of a growing crisis, even these two respected foreign currencies are at high risk of inflation. The US Federal Reserve launched a “quantitative easing” program last September, in other words, turned on a printing press, flooding financial markets with dollars and buying up corporate bonds. Then, last fall, the European Central Bank (ECB) restarted the “quantitative easing” program, while lowering the rate.

A difficult situation was aggravated by the "oil war", which brought down the world quotes of "black gold", and the coronavirus pandemic. Nobody knows when all this will end for sure, people are afraid for their income and savings, business - for working capital and sales volumes, threatening bankruptcies. The countries of the European Union, a symbol of successful economic unification, closed the borders from each other because of the pandemic, only reinforcing the existing moods of Eurosceptics.

For example, in France, the second pillar after Germany on which the EU stands, distrust of the single currency, the euro, is growing. It has long been estimated that after its introduction, the real purchasing power of ordinary French people has significantly decreased. Skepticism towards the euro in Italy, Greece, and Spain is getting stronger. It is believed that Germany, or rather, its industrialists, who gained advantages over other competitors from the union countries, most of all benefited from the introduction of the single currency at the time.

Today in France they are starting to talk about a return to the franc, but not simple, but gold. The emergence of its own national currency can give Paris real independence from Berlin and Washington. Gold remains an “eternal value” and at the same time only grows in value. True, it should be noted that so far this discussion has not reached the official level, since it is clear that Germany and the United States will not simply give their influence on the competitor. So far, the French have suggested using gold francs for numismatic purposes, but the trend is curious. The transition to a gold currency is an extremely serious matter, since a country that dared to do so automatically crosses the road to financial tycoons from the United States. It is believed that the real reason for NATO's invasion of Libya and the brutal murder of Muammar Gaddafi was his intention to introduce a gold dinar.

After the deterioration of relations with the West in 2014 and the imposition of sanctions, the topic of the need to switch to the gold ruble began to be discussed in the media and the blogosphere in Russia. The idea itself is curious, there are historical precedents in our country: both in tsarist times and in the Soviet era. About the experience of monetary reform carried out by I.V. Stalin, we detail told earlier. The question is not entirely unambiguous, and according to tracing paper, the old recipes for today's realities are not so easy to transfer. But in the long term, the issue of a new reform may become an edge, and the topic of introducing the gold ruble has the right to return to the socialpolitical discourse.
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  1. 123 Online
    123 (123) 1 May 2020 13: 39
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    As of January 1, 2020, there are 2271,31 tons, the cost is 110,376 billion dollars.
    The money supply, if I understand it, is cash, it is 9 billion rubles, or 671 billion dollars.

    January 31st. FINMARKET.RU - Money supply (M2 aggregate) in the Russian Federation in the national definition in December 2019 increased by 5,1% to 51,580 trillion rubles, according to information posted on the Bank of Russia website.

    This I mean that in the case of the introduction of the gold ruble, the money supply will be insufficient.
    I guess the question is settled? Or is it supposed that two currencies will be circulating simultaneously?
    1. Silver fox_2 Offline
      Silver fox_2 (Silver fox) 3 May 2020 17: 36
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      This is all bullshit. The main thing is obligations to people. Do you want to get gold coins? First you need to introduce a rule. Gold purchases are tax-free. The gold standard will turn out itself.
      1. 123 Online
        123 (123) 3 May 2020 19: 04
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        This is all bullshit. The main thing is obligations to people.
        Do you want to get gold coins?

        Me not. If you intend to introduce a gold ruble, then yes, that is why it is also a gold one. If you want to provide gold, then look above, gold is not enough for this.

        First you need to introduce a rule. Gold purchases are tax-free. The gold standard will turn out itself.

        I doubt it. no Banks set gold prices whatever they want.
        China digital renminbi is about to enter. It is necessary to look at the experience.
    2. radiootdel4 Offline
      radiootdel4 (Vladimir) 7 May 2020 17: 10
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      So I think gold will not work. Here it is necessary as penguins - to introduce a bunch of all kinds of unsecured obligations, etc.
      And in a good way - the ruble should be secured by the goods in demand. It won’t work out differently.
  2. Sergey Latyshev Offline
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 1 May 2020 13: 41
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    Bullshit question.
    Gold? To the people? Yes, they’ve gone crazy, by themselves, on limousines, like in sheikhs, and even not.

    IMHO, the question is not worth it ...
    1. Bitter Offline
      Bitter (Gleb) 1 May 2020 14: 58
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      Gold? To the people?

      And what does the people have to do with it?
      The gold ruble should go to the world market, attract investors. Americans can be "given" by buying securities from them.
      And for the people, there’s a couple more churches to build, you can even with Stalin. The main thing is to go and buy "candles", "the show must go on".
      1. Digital error Offline
        Digital error (Eugene) 1 May 2020 19: 22
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        Quote: Bitter
        with Stalin

        Only in "binding" to the nearby Putin. Otherwise, the people will remember why the grandfathers fought.
        1. Bitter Offline
          Bitter (Gleb) 2 May 2020 15: 40
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          Maybe he will remember in the evening in the kitchen having a glass of tea, and in the morning he will go for his daily bread and loans again to the galleys. That "democracy", as in the early nineties, today's democratic power will not allow. They have definitely learned all the lessons. And who is there today who wants to take vodka to the barricades?
          1. Digital error Offline
            Digital error (Eugene) 2 May 2020 21: 34
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            Quote: Bitter
            back to the galleys

            And if galleys (jobs) are selected?

            Quote: Bitter
            today's democratic government will not allow

            Poroshenko also thought so - the result is known.

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            They’ve already learned all the lessons.

            The lesson of Tiberius Gracchus on "pension reform" - not learned.
            1. Bitter Offline
              Bitter (Gleb) 3 May 2020 00: 07
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              And if galleys (jobs) are selected?

              So, in shuttles again, experience, go, not lost yet. wassat

              Poroshenko, too ...

              A bad example, he is in the wake of the fight against the virus, urgent resuscitation of health care and paternal care for the population and business, we can already say that he won all elections by two terms ahead. good

              they didn’t learn about “pension reform”.

              But the guard and the police were reformatted, equipped and motivated. good
  3. Alexzn Offline
    Alexzn (Alexander) 1 May 2020 15: 35
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    It seems that the average layman does not even suspect how stupid it is to pull out gold in the form of a gold ruble or franc. This is archaic. Stupid.
    For those gifted, a simple question is how will the purchasing power of the gold ruble be determined in the foreign market? Through a gold price quote? Expressed in ... dollars? And why scratch your right ear with your left hand?
    1. Perfectionist Offline
      Perfectionist 1 May 2020 19: 23
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      Gold is real money, and paper is a bond. Study the question before reasoning.
  4. Observer2014 Offline
    Observer2014 1 May 2020 16: 08
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    Why the Golden Ruble is eligible for return

    Well, with oil we all saw how it turned out. Let us now perform with gold to the heap.
    1. Perfectionist Offline
      Perfectionist 1 May 2020 20: 00
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      Why was the Soviet ruble stable? Why didn’t he convert? Because, the first - it was secured, the second - because Kissinger in the 71st pushed the world trade in oil for dollars. Now the dollar is cheaper than the paper on which it is printed, and oil is sold at a negative price. US banks do not have enough physical gold to sell, a fact.
      1. Natan bruk Offline
        Natan bruk (Natan Bruk) 2 May 2020 00: 17
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        The dollar costs less than paper, while in the dollar more than 70 rubles. Cognitive dissonance does not occur? I advise you to think about why the national currencies of countries such as the Arab monarchies, for example (not to mention Iran, Venezuela, Nigeria, etc.), which, as it were, should have been very wealthy, are needed by no one but themselves.
        1. Perfectionist Offline
          Perfectionist 2 May 2020 06: 40
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          Because the ruble and other currencies are a receipt for the dollar, therefore, cognitive dissonance does not arise, and liabilities are traded by speculators. The Central Bank of the Russian Federation buys dollars from exporters for rubles at a speculative rate, pays taxes and salaries in rubles.
          1. Natan bruk Offline
            Natan bruk (Natan Bruk) 3 May 2020 00: 44
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            Yes, even on the forehead, even on the forehead. In fact, the ruble is not needed by anyone in the world, and the world reserve currency is precisely the dollar and everyone needs it.
            1. Perfectionist Offline
              Perfectionist 3 May 2020 12: 15
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              I suspect that for the dollar those who tear them on a "rainy day" are tearing up the ass. What happened during the Great Depression is just a little mess, compared to the impending collapse of the entire global financial system.
              1. Natan bruk Offline
                Natan bruk (Natan Bruk) 3 May 2020 16: 49
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                For a dollar, the whole world is tearing ass. Including the "independent" DPRK, Iran, Venezuela and Po.
    2. 123 Online
      123 (123) 3 May 2020 19: 08
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      Well, with oil we all saw how it turned out. Let us now perform with gold to the heap.

      And what does not suit oil?
  5. Brancodd Offline
    Brancodd 1 May 2020 17: 24
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    Well, gold as a means of payment is 4 thousand years old. But the current currencies are somehow smaller. The world lived without gold, like money, for no more than four decades. In addition to practical experience with gold, there is another undeniable argument. It is impossible to PRINT, like the euro or the dollar. And just like that, it will not be easy to announce programs of “quantitative easing” of any currency. Rather, it is possible to declare, but implementation is problematic. Adherents of the “economics,” of course, this option is not camilleph. Because such an option diverges from their dogmas of unlimited emission of reserve currency without reference to the real sector of commodity markets. They have been discrediting gold as a means of payment since the 70s.

    Legally, the breakdown of this connection occurred at the Jamaican Monetary and Financial Conference in 1976, where IMF member countries announced the demonetization of gold. In fact, the decisions of the Bretton Woods Conference of 1944 were canceled, when the dollar and gold were declared international money, and the US Treasury was supposed to provide a free exchange of dollars for gold. Discrediting gold was not without success. They have in their hands the gold exchange in London. And such an interest as paper gold. But patching this platinum, which holds back the pressure of unsecured paper currencies, is becoming increasingly difficult.
    An informal center for managing the global banking system is the Bank for International Settlements (BIS) in Basel (Switzerland). This is a kind of club of central banks. There is a Committee on Banking Supervision under the BIS, which is an organization that develops common standards and methods for regulating banking activities. The first important document, born in the bowels of the KBN, was called "Basel-I" (1988). Then another document appeared - Basel II (2004); its full name: “International convergence of the measurement of capital and capital standards: new approaches.” Finally, in 2010-2011. Basel III was approved. His birth was a reaction to the global financial crisis of 2008-2009, which demonstrated that proper stability of banks is not ensured. Basel III raised the requirements for the adequacy of banks' own capital and determined what to consider as equity and how to evaluate it. Now the recommendations of this document are being implemented in the banking world, and on March 29 it will enter the final phase. From this day, the status of gold as part of banks ’equity will change.
    According to the rules of the KBN, bank capital is divided into three categories. The highest category has always been money (currency) in cash and non-cash forms. Further treasury bonds with the highest ratings (primarily US treasury bonds). And in the composition of the third, lower category was gold, which was considered as a kind of money. And the calculation of equity by banks was carried out on the basis of an assessment of the bank’s gold in the amount of 50% of its market value. Naturally, with such discrimination of gold, banks did not have a special desire to accumulate precious metal.
    So, from March 29, banks are allowed to account for gold in equity at a 100 percent price. Gold goes from third to first category. This means that from March 29, gold again becomes full-fledged money - like a dollar, euro or British pound. Maybe, after March 29, everything will look the same as before, but still the “golden mine” will have to explode

    But here our Central Bank (officially the Bank of Russia) in March 2020 unexpectedly announced the curtailment of its gold purchase program. And again he began to rather quickly buy up the Treasury bonds of the Fed. Those. I almost turned the policy around 180. Let me remind you that we almost completely sold all Fed bonds for the previous 3 years and at the same time increased our reserves in gold by up to 2200 tons. This shows that the resistance remains strong and our Central Bank is part of the global game against gold.
    Indeed, 2200 tons is clearly not enough to start the process of creating a new gold currency. We need a reserve that exceeds the total gold reserve of our wonderful "partners". But the process has begun, without taking into account Russia's desire. Whether Russia wants to do this or not, it doesn’t matter ....
    1. Alexzn Offline
      Alexzn (Alexander) 1 May 2020 18: 13
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      You really do not understand that gold money is nonsense?
      If the idea of ​​cryptocurrencies as an idea is doubtful, then a return to gold money is ridiculous and technically impossible at all.
      1. Digital error Offline
        Digital error (Eugene) 1 May 2020 19: 24
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        Quote: AlexZN
        not technically feasible

        We can do it through victory in the war with the USA. Which state is willing to take a chance?
        1. Alexzn Offline
          Alexzn (Alexander) 1 May 2020 19: 36
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          Even so. wink
          1. Digital error Offline
            Digital error (Eugene) 1 May 2020 19: 43
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            Quote: AlexZN
            the idea of ​​cryptocurrencies as an idea is doubtful

            There is an opinion (not mine) that this idea stems from the desire to finance anyone (US intelligence?) Without the ability to trace who exactly. Therefore, it is doubtful, in addition, taxes on the functioning and ensuring the security of the state are needed in any case, but they can’t be taken from crypto operations, if I'm not mistaken.
            1. Alexzn Offline
              Alexzn (Alexander) 1 May 2020 20: 17
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              Money = TRUST. If there is a cryptocurrency that will be trusted ... not the criminal sector, but consumers as such, then it can work. So far, I can’t imagine a situation in which some cent of power (trust) will take on guarantees for cryptocurrency, although this is theoretically possible.
              1. Digital error Offline
                Digital error (Eugene) 1 May 2020 20: 19
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                Quote: AlexZN
                purely theoretically, this is possible

                Just like winning a nuclear war with the United States. wink
                1. Alexzn Offline
                  Alexzn (Alexander) 1 May 2020 20: 31
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                  No, it is impossible even theoretically to defeat a world power in a nuclear war. After such a conflict, the remnants will go over to the initial form of barter, until gold, as the universal equivalent, will still have to grow.
                  1. Digital error Offline
                    Digital error (Eugene) 1 May 2020 20: 46
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                    Quote: AlexZN
                    will have to grow

                    Yeah, first the glass beads on the islands will have to be exchanged. I remember there was such a Gaddafi. He proposed to create a single African currency by pre-financing the election campaign of Macron.
                    Where is Gaddafi now?
                    What is Libya now?
                    Against whom is Macron now imposing sanctions between the stages of the pension "reform"?
                    And most importantly - what does Lisa Peskova think of all this? smile
                    1. Alexzn Offline
                      Alexzn (Alexander) 1 May 2020 21: 20
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                      The myth that Gaddafi wanted insignificant in finances was nothing more than a curiosity. Iran also talks a lot about refusing to trade for dollars, but at the same time it was the States that banned dollar transactions for Iran, and that one climbs its skin in order to earn them.
                      1. Digital error Offline
                        Digital error (Eugene) 1 May 2020 21: 25
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                        Quote: AlexZN
                        The myth that Gaddafi wanted insignificant in finance was nothing more than a curiosity

                        This is not a myth; he wrote a book recognized in certain circles as "extremist."

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                        States banned dollar operations for Iran

                        This is a sovereign right - don’t you? Would you like the "independent Ichkeria" in 1995 to pay off mercenaries in rubles?
                        But the main question was not answered. wink
                      2. Alexzn Offline
                        Alexzn (Alexander) 1 May 2020 21: 40
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                        I read about 35 years ago his Green Book - similar in level to the Ruhnama.
                        All kings of this level often consider themselves masters of the universe.
                      3. Digital error Offline
                        Digital error (Eugene) 1 May 2020 21: 47
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                        Quote: AlexZN
                        All kings of this level often consider themselves masters of the universe.

                        And someone eventually manages to become them. Without ambition, they would not. hi And by the way - what would Lisa Peskova say? repeat
                2. 123 Online
                  123 (123) 3 May 2020 19: 12
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                  He financed Sarkazi; Macron then worked as a clerk in a bank. hi
          2. Perfectionist Offline
            Perfectionist 2 May 2020 07: 15
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            Quote: AlexZN
            Money = TRUST. If there is a cryptocurrency that will be trusted ...

            You can only trust money that does not depend on anyone or anything. Gold does not depend on banks, nor on governments, nor on speculators. It is either there or not.
            1. Alexzn Offline
              Alexzn (Alexander) 2 May 2020 08: 00
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              Another stupid thing. Gold, like money, exists in coins and its content there is guaranteed by the state, because it is not in vain that there is a sovereign and symbols of power. Otherwise, total falsification. Learn the story.
              1. Perfectionist Offline
                Perfectionist 2 May 2020 08: 51
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                Nevertheless, these symbols only guarantee the quality of gold. You are too categorical, because did not delve deeply into the topic. Maybe more authoritative experts will be able to convince you, returning to the blockchain:

                https://goldenfront.ru/articles/view/zoloto-i-blokchejn/

                Browse through the articles on this site, I think your opinion will radically change. Smart people are able to change their minds on the basis of additional knowledge.
                1. Alexzn Offline
                  Alexzn (Alexander) 2 May 2020 09: 10
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                  I delved deeply into the topic, believe me. Knowledge in this area is professional. If some significant center of power can, by its authority, create TRUST in the blockchain ALGORITHM ... But questions arise, of which the most important one is WHY? This is not to mention unrequited HOW? In addition, the capitalist financial system itself, even when using cryptocurrency, involves the multiplication of funds through guarantees, bills, pledges. Creating virtual money for virtual (crypto) money. We return to the existing system. Dead end. In any case, the place of gold in the financial system is the place of horse-drawn transport in the global transport system.
                  1. Perfectionist Offline
                    Perfectionist 2 May 2020 10: 27
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                    Maybe, but I would advise you to buy this horse:

                    https://goldenfront.ru/articles/view/28-prichin-kupit-fizicheskoe-zoloto/
  6. Perfectionist Offline
    Perfectionist 1 May 2020 19: 36
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    Bullshit, when it’s unrealistic, gold can calmly use blockchain. Fiction is realized without fail. Able to anticipate always shame the demagogue.
    1. Oyo Sarkazmi Offline
      Oyo Sarkazmi (Oyo Sarkazmi) 1 May 2020 20: 56
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      Quote: Perfectionist
      Bullshit, when it’s unrealistic, gold can calmly use blockchain.

      That is, replace the printing press with code generation?
      Now cryptocurrencies have divorced, like cockroaches in the trash, more than 1000. And are they all gold?
      1. Perfectionist Offline
        Perfectionist 2 May 2020 06: 28
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        No. You have physical gold in the bank, and it is calculated on the blockchain. Gold cannot be printed; prices in gold are stable.
  7. Bulanov Offline
    Bulanov (Vladimir) 1 May 2020 22: 51
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    And if something irreparable happens to the USA, then what will become nonsense - US dollars, or gold money?
    1. Natan bruk Offline
      Natan bruk (Natan Bruk) 2 May 2020 00: 22
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      Well, yes, all that remains is to rely on Yellowstone.
      1. Oyo Sarkazmi Offline
        Oyo Sarkazmi (Oyo Sarkazmi) 2 May 2020 14: 38
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        Quote: Natan Bruk
        It remains to hope for Yellowstone.

        The Gulf of Naples is closer to us. laughing The one on the edge of which Vesuvius sheltered.
        The Gulf of Naples is just the crater of a supervolcano. In the late 60s and early 70s, the eastern shore of the bay rose 6 meters, and many fumaroles formed directly in the city of Naples. Several blocks were abandoned.
  • 123 Online
    123 (123) 7 May 2020 17: 31
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    Indeed, 2200 tons is clearly not enough to start the process of creating a new gold currency. We need a reserve that exceeds the total gold reserve of our wonderful "partners". But the process has begun, without taking into account Russia's desire. Whether Russia wants to do this or not, it doesn’t matter ....

    I’m afraid that the required amount of gold cannot be obtained simply physically. I look forward to when the Chinese digital yuan launch. I wonder how it will work. what
  • Alexzn Offline
    Alexzn (Alexander) 1 May 2020 20: 02
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    Quote: Perfectionist
    gold can easily use blockchain

    Insanity grew stronger.
  • Oyo Sarkazmi Offline
    Oyo Sarkazmi (Oyo Sarkazmi) 1 May 2020 20: 52
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    Golden currency LLC has a huge drawback - its quantity is limited. And all the stocks fly down the drain - having bought a paper share for a gold coin, it is basically impossible to sell or make a profit - the amount of gold does not increase from the number of shares.
    1. Alexzn Offline
      Alexzn (Alexander) 1 May 2020 21: 29
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      This is from the area of ​​return from cars to horses, but with GPS, computer, sunbuffer, air conditioning ...
      And after all there are people who believe.
      1. Oyo Sarkazmi Offline
        Oyo Sarkazmi (Oyo Sarkazmi) 2 May 2020 14: 15
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        Quote: AlexZN
        This is from the area of ​​return from cars to horses, but with GPS, computer, sound buffer, air conditioning.

        Everything has to be paid for. Constantly. And this means that over time, all the gold will accumulate at the Internet providers and JP&C - there are few people in this area, but they serve the whole world. But for the sound buffer and air conditioning there will be nothing to pay. For half a million sound buffers, and a thousand apartments, and a million cars - the manager of the Internet provider is simply not needed.
    2. Digital error Offline
      Digital error (Eugene) 1 May 2020 22: 49
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      Quote: Oyo Sarkazmi
      the amount of gold on the number of shares does not increase

      Well, that is, here it is - a "steel" limitation of speculation?
      Why did the USSR, being the second economy of the world, not buy everything in the world gold at 60 kopecks per dollar - maybe that’s why it “fell apart”?
    3. Perfectionist Offline
      Perfectionist 2 May 2020 06: 59
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      Quote: Oyo Sarkazmi
      buying a paper share for a gold coin

      Who is doing this? Where have you seen such idiots?
      Even paper gold is not getting cheaper, because, as you rightly noted, the amount of physical. gold does not increase, cheaper paper for which they buy gold. To make a profit, you need to work, and not speculate, however, the cost of physical. gold is growing, but you do not believe that you can earn on gold.)
      1. Oyo Sarkazmi Offline
        Oyo Sarkazmi (Oyo Sarkazmi) 2 May 2020 14: 30
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        Quote: Perfectionist
        However, the cost of physical. gold is growing, but you do not believe that you can earn on gold.)

        When linking a dollar bill to gold, gold, in principle, cannot rise in price.
        After all, what happened during the Great Depression? People rushed to buy shares for GOLD dollars, albeit in banknotes. As the number of hamsters grew, issuers could raise the value of shares and buy back the shares. But the influx of hamsters dried up, and those who wanted to sell the stock suddenly found out that no one had the money. And issuers of shares, which have accumulated all the money, the shares were nafig not needed. And to finish printing the Ministry of Finance - nizzya, dollars as much as gold.
        Roosevelt declared possession of gold a criminal offense, and ordered to hand over, issuing in return freshly printed bills. People got money, but the gold billionaires quickly began to get poorer - they did not have paper dollars, and the printing press worked at its full potential. Prices crawled up. And then the War that Happened in Time - gold from all over the world again flowed into the United States.
    4. Marzhecki Offline
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 3 May 2020 10: 18
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      Quote: Oyo Sarkazmi
      Golden currency LLC has a huge drawback - its quantity is limited.

      Rather, limitation forms its price, no? Or it’s better to print an unlimited amount of unsecured paper.
      1. Oyo Sarkazmi Offline
        Oyo Sarkazmi (Oyo Sarkazmi) 3 May 2020 14: 34
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        Quote: Marzhetsky
        it is better to print an unlimited amount of unsecured paper

        While they will take it, they will print it.
        If you print strictly in proportion to the gross product - it's okay, prices will fluctuate depending on the fashion, but they will never skyrocket and never fall. Nowhere.
        But the price of gold and other raw materials will always creep up under such conditions of "equilibrium". For there are few of them, by nature.
  • Alexzn Offline
    Alexzn (Alexander) 1 May 2020 21: 42
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    Quote: DigitalError
    And the main question was not answered

    Well, I don’t know what Lisa Peskova thinks.
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    Oleg Rambover (Oleg Rambover) 2 May 2020 14: 19
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    Previously, the bulls were still paying. You won’t be fed up with gold, but you can eat a bull.
    As far as I remember, one of the reasons for the great depression was the tight binding of the dollar to gold.
  • Citizen Mѣshkov (Sergey G) 3 May 2020 02: 45
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    Timely idea.
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    Jack clubs (Eugene) 3 May 2020 10: 08
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    Last time, the gold ruble led Russia to crazy debts in 1917. When smart Bolsheviks sent three letters of so-called investors (then they were called differently - imperialists and class enemies) and proved that they were not needed at all by a normal working country. What has been known since the time of Adam Smith.
    But there are those who want to try out a new rake ...
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      Marzhecki (Sergei) 3 May 2020 10: 20
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      And comrade Stalin then what introduced the gold ruble? And its leadership as a whole led to the RI debts, and not specifically the gold ruble.
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        Jack clubs (Eugene) 3 May 2020 10: 51
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        Stalin needed the gold ruble for international payments. And inside the USSR there were pieces of paper, as, incidentally, before the Reform of S.Yu. Witte. But only in the USSR for the first time they refused gold support. As, however, in Germany, S. Gesell was just creating there, who invented the world in which we live. "Free markets, free money, free labor, free movement."
        And then his work was sold as a product of the University of Chicago with the brand "monetarism" and "liberalism".
        What do you think, the economy of the USSR could develop without advanced finance? Yes, the petrodollar was 50 years late ... Although even now, individuals are waiting for him to collapse)))
        As for the smart leadership policy, it is foolish to refuse advanced finance and the freedom to print money for the sake of some kind of stupidity. Here we will dance, but we will tie the legs. This is the gold standard.
        No, well, if you are a Rockefeller and want to connect the whole world with the help of the gold standard ... Then you are doing everything right. But why do we need this? Even without you we can live, buy, sell.
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          Perfectionist 3 May 2020 11: 11
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          Securing gold ties the legs of Wall Street dancers, financial speculators trading promises. Manufacturers suffer from these parasites, because investments go to the horn, to the air.
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      Alexzn (Alexander) 3 May 2020 11: 52
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      Jack clubs (Eugene)
      Respect. At least someone has heard of Adam Smith.
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    Blast (Vladimir) 6 May 2020 15: 40
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    And why do I need to ruble this "golden noose"? We now have one noose, we cannot have more than our own rubles in the economy than dollars come to the country. Well, let's change one "noose" to another. The economy needs as much money as it can digest, less is bad, more is bad too. So you need the optimal amount of fiat money, and not how much gold or dollars there is in the country.