“Need to shoot down!”: Daily Mail readers on the Russian IL-38 in Alaska


Readers of the British Daily Mail promptly reacted to a message about the interception by the US Air Force of Russian Il-38 aircraft that entered the identification zone (but not into the airspace) of Alaska air defense.


At the time of writing, there were 129 comments under the post. Some of them are presented here.

Russia is resisting the West, which has 20-30 times more resources, which is why I admire it.

These Russian planes look like an old, long-behind bird!

Look at the state of this contraption compared to the Raptor.

So, you could not find the image of the IL-38

- commentators have repeatedly noted the fact that in the illustrations for news not IL-38. Photos clearly demonstrate the interception of the Tu-95 or Tu-142, which occurred much earlier.


These old Bears [the name of the Tu-95 in NATO countries] are almost as old as I am. Does anyone remember the liner equivalent to it [in age] at Heathrow Airport? And pay attention to the fact that the "Raptor" needs a refueling aircraft.

All countries test their competitors for their weaknesses, China has just opened ours and everyone else

- obviously, this is a coronavirus.

The aircraft shown is not an IL-38! This is the Tu-95.

Russia should be explicitly warned that now is not the best time to play games that bring closer to the Cold War. And what if they do it again, they will be shot down, no matter if they are in international airspace or not.

Those Bears whose designs date back to the late 1940s do not pose a real threat. They can be easily knocked down if they really try to attack. Americans know that, of course. But they still need to be intercepted to show what they are paying attention to.

We need to shoot down one of these aircraft, and perhaps the Russians will stop sending them.

How many times a year does this happen and who cares?

I’m not even close to a fan of communism, but at least Russia has never infected us with a virus. They also donated much needed medicines, while China sells medicines (of poor quality) after the virus spread around the world.

The Russian aircraft in the first picture is the Tupolev Tu-95 Tupolev, a largely modified copy of the American Boeing B-29 combat vehicle from World War II.

I lived in Alaska. This happens monthly. Sometimes weekly.

They probably want Alaska back ...

- response to the previous comment.

Americans are exactly the same nervous Russians. A game of “who will blink first” lasting for decades, and both sides play it.

I thought that with their man in Washington, we are now part of the Russian Federation!
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  1. 123 Offline
    123 (123) April 10 2020 16: 25
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    There are plenty of people who want to shoot down other people's planes in international airspace everywhere, including ours.
  2. Orange big Offline
    Orange big (Max) April 10 2020 16: 39
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    “Need to shoot down!”: Daily Mail readers on the Russian IL-38 in Alaska

    Hysterics.
  3. Sergey Latyshev Offline
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) April 10 2020 16: 52
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    Yes, we, too, have someone else's plane being carried out - in the same way in bulk.
  4. Sapsan136 Offline
    Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) April 10 2020 16: 56
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    Well, since the Yankees want to shoot down the planes of the Russian Federation, then the Russian Federation also needs to shoot down all the Yankees, which entered the 300-mile zone of the Russian Federation.
    1. cmonman Offline
      cmonman (Garik Mokin) April 10 2020 17: 31
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      ... you need to shoot down all the Yankees, included in the 300-mile zone of the Russian Federation ..

      - but on condition that they, the planes, are engaged in poaching fish.
      1. Sapsan136 Offline
        Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) April 11 2020 09: 59
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        Brazil, Peru, Ecuador, and even tiny Uruguay unilaterally set the size of their territorial waters to exceed 12 miles and no one climbs there ... Nobody bothers Russia to do the same, especially if the Yankees start shooting down Russian planes that were not part of to the 12 mile zone of the USA ...
      2. A.Lex Offline
        A.Lex (Secret information) April 11 2020 22: 18
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        American Mokin, as always, issued another pearl of stupidity. Garik, go home to the Yankees country.
        1. cmonman Offline
          cmonman (Garik Mokin) April 11 2020 22: 33
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          This is not stupidity, this is sarcasm for those who do not understand the difference between 12 km of the border and 300 km of the economic zone. I hope you know the difference. Or not, since they did not understand humor?
          1. 321 Offline
            321 (321) April 11 2020 22: 54
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            Quote: cmonman
            This is not stupidity, this is sarcasm for those who do not understand the difference between 12 km of the border and 300 km of the economic zone. I hope you know the difference. Or not, since they did not understand humor?

            And this also cannot be called sarcasm - it’s just Ignorance you - what a "trifle" for you, only the boundaries - well, about which you write so hard, are measured NOT in kilometers, but in completely different units - it would seem a trifle - well, yes, a trifle, you are going to steal more than ten kilometers of the border, because there are more than 22 kilometers in kilometers turns... but I will not say anything about the economic zone - but only for now. bully hi
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  5. steelmaker Offline
    steelmaker April 10 2020 17: 31
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    Weird comments. Because I have never heard from our military and in the news about single interceptions with us. Our military immediately say the total number for a month or a week.

    https://ria.ru/20170623/1497125936.html

    https://www.bbc.com/russian/features-46991629

    https://www.fontanka.ru/2019/09/06/012/

    And I never read or heard that we had anyone who wanted to, offering to shoot down other people's planes in the international space, as some write here. And it always happens when they want to humiliate their people!
    1. cmonman Offline
      cmonman (Garik Mokin) April 10 2020 17: 34
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      And I never read or heard that we had anyone who wanted to, offering to shoot down other people's planes in the international space, as some write here.

      Do not flirt! They offer to shoot down, and a lot ...
    2. cmonman Offline
      cmonman (Garik Mokin) April 11 2020 17: 14
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      Steelworker, what's the matter? Why don’t you believe that there are a lot of readers who want to bring down Amer’s planes?
      Yes, look at the Sapsan136 comment at the very top with its six Pluses! Those. he himself and his 6 followers (a total of -7) want to shoot down amer planes! And you do not see / notice / read?
      C'mon man!
      1. 321 Offline
        321 (321) April 11 2020 18: 37
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        Quote: cmonman
        Steelworker, what's the matter? Why don’t you believe that there are a lot of readers who want to bring down Amer’s planes?
        Yes, look at the Sapsan136 comment at the very top with its six Pluses! Those. he himself and his 6 followers (a total of -7) want to shoot down amer planes! And you do not see / notice / read?
        C'mon man!

        How is everything standard - do you really care who these comments appeared in response to an article in which what is written? -

        Russia should be explicitly warned that now is not the best time to play games that bring closer to the Cold War. So what, if they do it again they will be knocked down, it doesn’t matter whether they are in international airspace or not...

        - and why is it better ???

        Conclusion - as there it comes back to you, so it responds to us.
        1. cmonman Offline
          cmonman (Garik Mokin) April 11 2020 19: 52
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          Great answer, with pathos! I even felt the intonation ...!
          1. 321 Offline
            321 (321) April 11 2020 20: 08
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            I am very happy for you, this is about pathos, but what about the initial reaction of your fellow citizens? This is normal? negative
            1. cmonman Offline
              cmonman (Garik Mokin) April 11 2020 20: 18
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              321, edition Reporter - one of the most rarely visited sites - rarely more than 10 reviews. If you look / read comments on the same event in MK or Tape, then there are hundreds (!) Of comments and 25% to shoot down! But on this site, readers do not even know / understand the differences between the country's border (12 km) and the economic zone (300 km). Explain the difference to them, please ...
              1. 321 Offline
                321 (321) April 11 2020 20: 38
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                Quote: cmonman
                321, edition Reporter is one of the most rarely visited sites - rarely more than 10 reviews. If you look / read comments on the same event in MK or Tape, then there are hundreds (!) Of comments and 25% to shoot down! But on this site, readers do not even know / understand the differences between the country's border (12 km) and the economic zone (300 km). Explain the difference to them, please ...

                If you already asked me to “clarify”, then first of all, about not 12 km in question.
                As for the site and its attendance - if you are not satisfied with the attendance of this site, who makes you comment on it?
                First of all, I’m interested in some areas of technology, here, what’s in VO, the rest is just the same, what’s called if there is time — and I just don’t go to the sites you listed — at all, MK regularly reads in paper form, sometimes it’s more convenient but neither Tape nor Rambler interest me from the word at all ...
            2. cmonman Offline
              cmonman (Garik Mokin) April 11 2020 20: 30
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              ... what about the initial reaction of your fellow citizens? This is normal?

              Yes, I almost forgot to answer! This is normal and it is called “pluralism of opinions." Having an opinion is not punishable. Can the opinion owner push a button and knock it down? No. But he can express his adventurous opinion. And because of his opinion about the "knocking down" he won’t be anything - he’s full of fools ... what to take from them ...
              1. 321 Offline
                321 (321) April 11 2020 20: 55
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                Quote: cmonman
                ... what about the initial reaction of your fellow citizens? This is normal?

                Yes, I almost forgot to answer! This is normal and it is called “pluralism of opinions." Having an opinion is not punishable. Can the opinion owner push a button and knock it down? No. But he can express his adventurous opinion. And because of his opinion about the "knocking down" he won’t be anything - he’s full of fools ... what to take from them ...

                Apart from what I asked about something else, bully then pluralism after a while turns into public opinion, but it is already much more difficult to dismiss it, and if you are right about the button, then the attitude towards the country is also formed from this ...
                Were these technologies used to be - just would have chosen Goldwater at the time ...
                1. cmonman Offline
                  cmonman (Garik Mokin) April 11 2020 21: 19
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                  ... brushing off is already much harder ...

                  It is impossible to dismiss public opinion, otherwise a dictatorship. But the dictatorship just suits you. Sorry, I'm bored with you ...
                  1. 321 Offline
                    321 (321) April 11 2020 21: 47
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                    Quote: cmonman
                    ... brushing off is already much harder ...

                    It is impossible to dismiss public opinion, otherwise a dictatorship. But the dictatorship just suits you. I'm sorry, I'm bored with you.

                    Engaged in vanging on an Internet, or guessing other people's thoughts? This is about the dictatorship and most importantly about the fact that it suits me ... bully
                    And the rest - well, nothing changes in a kind of democratic public like you - all according to the slogan - "we can, but here you are." In your press, articles on the topic “knock it down” are good, this is not a dictatorship, but the responses in our press, the media, and on the websites — that’s already bad, so low. I have seen enough of all this and heard a lot about your “democratic” performance - I am talking about your state in this case, but you personally have not lagged much behind it - as soon as you understand that in one of your comments it’s a blunder, and not a child’s one, and the answers to it no, and it’s unlikely to be - it’s clear who wants to admit that he was in a puddle ...
                    PS So about boredom, tell someone else. hi
                    1. A.Lex Offline
                      A.Lex (Secret information) April 11 2020 22: 22
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                      321, as this American is poked with a linden nose, he immediately becomes "bored" because there is nothing to cover. laughing
                    2. cmonman Offline
                      cmonman (Garik Mokin) April 11 2020 22: 28
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                      Yes, understand, 321, no publication in the US will devote a SEPARATE article, parsing reviews! It is only possible in Russia! And it’s called “Atas, they beat ours !!!”
                      You, in Russia, can not stand when they write badly about you, for you reviews should be only good or none. The editorial staff of the Reporter was led to the negativity of some idiots, and in Russia the Sabbath of patriots began !!!
                      If you own English, you can see for yourself how much dirt is pouring on Russia in the comments, no less than in Russia on the United States. But in the USA, these comments are completely ignored, and in Russia - screams !!!
                      1. 321 Offline
                        321 (321) April 11 2020 22: 34
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                        Quote: cmonman
                        ... If you own English, you can see for yourself how much dirt is pouring on Russia in the comments, no less than in Russia on the United States. But in the USA, these comments are completely ignored, and in Russia - screams !!!

                        If this, in fact, is elevated to the line of behavior of the state, why are comments needed? Though in the form of screams, but at least in what?
                        The main thing there, you do not forget that Vanya harnesses slowly, but then ... bully
                      2. cmonman Offline
                        cmonman (Garik Mokin) April 11 2020 22: 40
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                        Got it - you don’t speak English. But in vain! The language of the enemy must be known!
                        And the fact that Vanya slowly harnesses, it is necessary to drive him - he is either lazy, or does not know how to harness.
                      3. 321 Offline
                        321 (321) April 11 2020 22: 48
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                        Do you wang again? bully Well, about languages? So far you have been unsuccessful, and about the enemy - it’s not true, it’s called in a completely different way ... hi
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    King3214 (Sergius) April 10 2020 23: 28
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    Morons!
    After all, shooting down such an aircraft is not easy, but getting a complete set of missiles that suppress anti-aircraft defense is an objective reality.
    Why do they hate their own military air defense?
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    Warrior April 11 2020 02: 54
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    Yes, yes ... The United States must return Russian Alaska and Russian America - these are not American lands ....
  • beeper Offline
    beeper April 11 2020 13: 26
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    Beautiful aircraft - our most reliable Soviet turboprop IL-18 and its highly specialized "clones" for various purposes! good

    The Americans who write about the Tu-95 strategic turboprop bomber, as if they were allegedly "a heavily modified copy (unintentionally or intentionally confusing it with the Tu-4) of the American piston B-29," or the British, as "about the oldest liner", "not having equivalents to london civil airport Heathrow, thereby showing their complete denseness (or bias ?! winked ) not only in the knowledge of the history of Soviet-Russian military aircraft, but also in their NATO "airliners (or, as it is now customary to write in the media," aircraft "—and this is not all about passenger planes, but about military!)"! yes
    Because these English-speaking "aviation experts" stupidly cannot "remember" the American "one-year-old" of our "Bears" - the "equivalent" strategic B-52 turbojet bomber, which made its first flight in the same 1952 as the first prototype Tu-95 almost seventy years ago!

    I don’t know how there are “at Heathrow Airport” among peaceful airliners, but I well “remember” that on the British soil “old like me” American B-52 bombers are based and fly regularly in the sky over the “Zalamanshi island”! wink
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    Dust (Sergei) April 11 2020 15: 01
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    Shoot down Russian planes! ..... So in five minutes all your anti-aircraft defense in Romania and Poland will be destroyed!) Apparently, some obviously have no hemispheres!)
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    Radikal April 11 2020 20: 46
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    Quote: cmonman
    ... you need to shoot down all the Yankees, included in the 300-mile zone of the Russian Federation ..

    - but on condition that they, the planes, are engaged in poaching fish.

    Put you a plus, because Radical laughing users who offer to shoot down, clearly do not know, and do not understand the mechanism for making such decisions. bully
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    Astronaut (San Sanych) April 12 2020 00: 17
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    I don’t understand something, but they don’t want to neigh over their B-52? They are from the same age Tu-95. wassat
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    Serge Tixiy (Serge Tixiy) April 12 2020 09: 46
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    About "knocking down" - a "double-edged sword", and who "flickers" there? The British, who without the permission of the Americans and "fart" can not?
  • White Light Magus (White Light Magus) April 16 2020 14: 15
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    This is Russian Alaska, the lease is over, and the Americans do not want to pay the lease. It is necessary to return back under the flag of Russia.