“Why were Russians called?”: Italy turned out to be NATO's leader in biosecurity


The conflict between Russia and the NATO bloc over the medical assistance provided by Italy by the Kremlin is gaining new facets, writes the Bulgarian publication MediaPool.


Recall, in the framework of the operation “From Russia with Love”, the Russian military contingent with leading specialists in the field of virology and epidemiology equipped with a technique.

Residents of the republic accepted Moscow's help with gratitude, but a number of local media outlets politicians and public figures lashed out at Russians with harsh criticism. For example, the Italian newspaper La Stampa called the humanitarian operation "semi-propaganda and semi-intelligence," and 80% of the supplied medical supplies were useless. Russia was also accused of the fact that the military doctors were headed by Major General Sergei Kikot, who participated in exposing the White Helmets fakes about the alleged chemical attack in the Syrian Duma by the troops of President Bashar al-Assad.

But all right, everything can be attributed to a propaganda war. But what about the information that Italy, it turns out, has the best nuclear, chemical and biological defense forces in NATO? This was stated by the former representative of the Ministry of Defense Andrea Armaro, asking a legitimate question, why then Italy did not use them a month earlier, having received help from the Russians.

The fact that the Italians themselves are on the front line of NATO in protecting against chemical and biological weapons, says Hamish de Breton-Gordon, the former commander of the British chemical, biological and radiological forces. According to him, the possibilities of Italy even surpass the Russian ones, being more advanced.

It remains to ask the same question: why did the Italian army, a member of the North Atlantic Alliance, not be the first to help its own population?
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  1. Observer2014 Offline
    Observer2014 April 5 2020 13: 59
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    It remains to ask the same question why the army of Italy, a member of the North Atlantic Alliance, was not the first to come to the aid of its own population?

    They did not realize that army units could be used in peacetime. This is the "problem" of many societies in the world. And not only western ones. It is only there that you need to work strictly in your specialty. And no other way. If you, for example, are a doctor, then be kind enough to be a doctor purely in your specialty. And do not perform the functions of a nurse, for example. You have no right to give an injection. If I'm wrong, correct me. What do we have now? Horses mixed in a bunch, people .... laughing Hello to the optimizers! negative And so in all areas of our lives.
    This does not mean that there is a five. And we don’t have a class at all. You just need to find the right middle.
    1. albor.ru Offline
      albor.ru (Alexander) April 5 2020 15: 01
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      After 3 courses, the doctor goes through nursing practice and makes all the injections. After 4 courses - medical practice - participation in the diagnosis and initial examination of patients.
      I was on a business secondment in another hospital.
      An extensive lung operation was prescribed, and before that they decided to do a small operation - segmental resection of the lung.
      Anesthetists sisters are all under 50 years old, in the past, operating nurses who are tired of standing at the table - neither to go out nor scratch themselves - can enter the vein before induction of anesthesia, perform a puncture and catheterization of the subclavian vein - lose time for the second major operation. The question arose - should be removed from the table ...
      Then I offered my services. The girls scornfully held out a needle - "where are you ... We didn’t hit!" They did not know that I had been working as a nurse for 4 years before medical activity.
      After I entered the vein, the operation began.

      So the next day, somewhere in the operating room, I hear behind me: "Alexander Andreyevich! Would you at least get away !!!" I was a newcomer there and contacted only with doctors, but the girls, out of respect, recognized the Name and Patronymic ... And remembered ... And they needed it !? The doctor must be able to do everything that the sister does! And every doctor must be able to take birth, conduct a postmortem autopsy, and much more.
      In particular, I can take birth, open corpses, shoot a pistol and sing tenorom - Evening ring-o-o-he Evening ring-o-o-he - how many thoughts he brings to Bom-Bom ...
      Girls come from the emergency room - "Doctor ... We can’t take urine from a woman with a catheter ... Help, we don’t understand anything there." My colleague soared - “HOW do you understand nothing !? Should I know better!”? He carefully gets out with a glove - Three rubles .... A woman on the couch - there was still a ruble! Then he was teased - BONES! Where the Ruble Affairs !!!
    2. Serge Tixiy Offline
      Serge Tixiy (Serge Tixiy) April 5 2020 17: 32
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      Well, yes, they are so stupid ... The Americans won’t guess, even the funeral teams were singled out. As for narrow specialization and universalization. Who is planting the so-called "family" doctors throughout the post-Soviet space? "Enlightened" West, when a family doctor should treat almost everything and everyone .... is that not universalization?
    3. alexneg13 Offline
      alexneg13 (Alexander) April 5 2020 19: 57
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      It is necessary to return the Soviet system of education, and the sect of examinations of the Unified State Examination to be declared illegal. It is necessary to restore the lost, and the impasse of Western education to withdraw from the priorities forever. I personally have to train in the field and make integrators programmers from victims of the Unified State Exam (out of 100, 1-2 people are best suited for Western patterns). The last graduation was in 1994. Imagine when you (God forbid) tear off your leg and come quickly and announce that this is not my profile and die from a pain shock, waiting for a narrow-profile specialist in the western patterns. Sorry to be so harsh, but for those treated with "dust and yellow water" PAS AMERICANO does not work in a different way.
    4. Yuri Nemov Offline
      Yuri Nemov (Yuri Nemov) April 6 2020 12: 05
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      That is, the army must sit to the last in the garrisons and wait until all Italians have a break. So they delivered ???
      1. Oh_ho_ho Offline
        Oh_ho_ho (Victor) April 7 2020 12: 12
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        Like, laughed at the Italians, and bit his ... Who are you? Ahhh ... Not yours ...
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    6. meandr51 Offline
      meandr51 (Andrei) April 20 2020 12: 37
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      The thesis is highly doubtful. For some reason, in the event of riots, fires, earthquakes, troops are attracted immediately. And finally, a request was made by the Russian Federation before the transfer of military doctors! Could immediately refuse and think of using their wonderful features. No, they invited ours! Conclusion: they have no real opportunities. Chatter alone.
  2. 123 Online
    123 (123) April 5 2020 15: 01
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    But what about the information that Italy, it turns out, has the best nuclear, chemical and biological defense forces in NATO?

    If these are the best of their best, then what are the best of the worst? And the worst of the worst?

    The fact that the Italians themselves are on the front line of NATO in protecting against chemical and biological weapons, says Hamish de Breton-Gordon, the former commander of the British chemical, biological and radiological forces. According to him, the possibilities of Italy even surpass the Russian ones, being more advanced.

    And any respected British pensioner did not provide any data? Well, are there any numbers? And then vague doubts torment, for example, some of our neighbors consider themselves the strongest army in Europe.
    What else can I earn from retirement if the business is not going well?
    SecureBio, where this character was listed as a director, closed in 2017,

    with debts of more than 715 pounds

    https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Hamish_de_Bretton-Gordon

    Here are a few statements by this "specialist" in retirement, with experience in Syria and Iraq:

    "It is unbelievable that the Russians were allowed to enter NATO on extremely redundant grounds," he told The Telegraph. Italians had little need for additional chemical, biological and radiological resources, he said. "They are leaders in chemical, biological, radiological and nuclear weapons in NATO and the EU. They are considered the gold standard, and they have great potential. I do not think they need a batch of aging Russian equipment," said de Bretton-Gordon, who left the British army in 2012 with the rank of colonel.

    In general, he does not think, the opinion of the Italians on this issue is not given in the article.
    He expressed his opinion on Novice:

    In Ukraine, it is impossible to find the nerve agent Novichok.
    It was designed and manufactured in Shikhany, a city in central Russia where the military research institution is located. This was stated by the expert of the British army in chemical weapons Hamish de Bretton-Gordon, writes The Guardian.
    According to him, the chemical cannot be found in other places of the former Soviet Union, such as Ukraine and Uzbekistan.

    About the presence of a "newbie" in England, the "expert" modestly silent, probably forgot.
    The assets of the citizen "Novice", creaked, chemical weapons of Saddam, "chemical attacks" in Syria.
    In general, colleagues who seriously comment on the opinion of citizen Bretton-Gordon as trustworthy, in my subjective opinion, are close to the Pinocchio embryo in terms of mental development.
    1. Lieutenant Rzhevsky I April 5 2020 15: 23
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      Pinocchio - embryo - log - who are you alluding to? Can't and can't?
      1. 123 Online
        123 (123) April 5 2020 15: 36
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        Lieutenant, in this case, I do not hint, one might say, I say with proletarian bluntness, it is not entirely clear who you mean. I am talking about people who have confidence in the opinion of this "expert." Fortunately, there are only a few of them here, I see one.
        1. Lieutenant Rzhevsky I April 5 2020 16: 23
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          Pinocchio Pole?
          1. 123 Online
            123 (123) April 5 2020 16: 52
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            Pinocchio is a wooden boy, everything is classic. And who is our Pole?
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  4. Warrior Offline
    Warrior April 5 2020 15: 49
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    Why then the Italian authorities do not refuse to help Russia, if everything is clear to these journalists?
    We are waiting for official clarification on Russian assistance from the Italian Government ...
    1. Lieutenant Rzhevsky I April 5 2020 16: 25
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      Because they are not as smart as the magazines from La Stampa.
    2. S.V.YU Offline
      S.V.YU April 5 2020 20: 25
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      If you are not in the know, assistance is provided at the request of the Italian Prime Minister! But.
  5. Lieutenant Rzhevsky I April 5 2020 16: 27
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    An article in some kind of yellow leaf and so much attention to it.
    1. 123 Online
      123 (123) April 5 2020 16: 53
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      An article in some kind of yellow leaf and so much attention to it.

      Quite right, sorry, Tymchuk did not live up to this bright day, the opinion of his "authoritative helmet" would certainly have been voiced.
      1. Lieutenant Rzhevsky I April 5 2020 17: 46
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        Tymchuk’s talking helmet could not stand his lie.
  6. Yuri Mikhailovsky (Yuri Mikhailovsky) April 5 2020 16: 57
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    That's why they did not come to the aid of their country because they keep a secret that they are the best ...
  7. albor.ru Offline
    albor.ru (Alexander) April 5 2020 17: 00
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    What are you bothering !? Italy was simply APPOINTED as a leader! Her specialization is defense of troops.
  8. Put_NIK Offline
    Put_NIK (Andrey) April 5 2020 20: 48
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    They have all the best and most advanced, as in the USA! But, damn it, it is also like the USA only on paper! Well, only Americans can cure with paper - toilet. They deftly succeed! This trick has not been given to others.
    1. mor7d Offline
      mor7d (mor7d) April 6 2020 09: 56
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      They have all the best and most advanced

      Something like this. You buy literally everything from them.
      1. Alexander RND Offline
        Alexander RND (Alexander ) April 8 2020 14: 16
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        Rave! EVERYONE buys EVERYTHING in the Maker! And America first!
        1. mor7d Offline
          mor7d (mor7d) April 8 2020 17: 31
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          EVERYONE buys EVERYTHING in the Maker

          I mean, in China? So this is all either European or American. either Japanese or Israeli. Just a factory located in China, so cheaper. China on this and rose.
    2. Dear sofa expert. April 6 2020 23: 12
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      NATO is a cardboard tiger. The cardboard tiger has paper claws.
      1. mor7d Offline
        mor7d (mor7d) April 8 2020 17: 32
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        NATO - Cardboard Tiger

        Then why are you afraid of him like fire?
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    Vkd dvk (Victor) April 5 2020 21: 13
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    If these gouges are the best in NATO in organizing their chemical units, then what kind of bad ones are they?
  10. KAMIKADZE_2 Offline
    KAMIKADZE_2 (KAMIKADZE divine) April 6 2020 00: 41
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    Because there is no mind.
  11. mor7d Offline
    mor7d (mor7d) April 6 2020 09: 55
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    Why were they called Russians?

    What were their names? Honestly, I have not found any calling statements anywhere.
    1. Accidentally Offline
      Accidentally April 6 2020 10: 38
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      To be promoted - to wag a tail and so on ...
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    3. Alexander RND Offline
      Alexander RND (Alexander ) April 8 2020 14: 18
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      Because I did not look. Unprofitable for you.
  12. Vitaliy Evseev Offline
    Vitaliy Evseev (Vitaly Evseev) April 6 2020 10: 40
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    And why did Skripal not immediately turn to Hamish de Breton-Gordon, the intelligence officer should have known.
    1. Dear sofa expert. April 6 2020 23: 15
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      He did not have time. The chemical warfare agent deprived him of academic achievement.
  13. shinobi Offline
    shinobi (Yuri) April 7 2020 11: 54
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    There is nothing to be surprised at. The chemical, radiological and bioprotection troops (in our country it is one type of troops) in NATO belong to the rapid reaction forces (in our opinion, constant readiness). Recent NATO exercises in the EU have shown that they need two weeks to deploy quickly (7 hours from the moment we receive an order) with almost six-month planning. NATO is not just a paper tiger, it is a dead tiger.