MiG-35 vs Chinese J-10: why Iran may abandon the Russian aircraft


Due to the fact that the UN arms embargo on Iran expires in October 2020 in accordance with the terms of the Joint Comprehensive Action Plan (JCPOA), the Islamic Republic is expected to conclude a contract for the purchase of modern fighters by the end of the year.


Military Watch Magazine published material whose authors are trying to figure out which aircraft the Iranian military might prefer - the Russian MiG-35 or the Chinese J-10C.

The publication acknowledges that the Russian machine prevails over the Chinese in all respects - flight range, armament, maneuverability, radar capabilities and, accordingly, price.

However, according to the authors of the material, far from the price will underlie the choice of Tehran.

Among the probable reasons that the Chinese J-10C fighter will be preferred, journalists say political reasons, recalling that after the collapse of the USSR, Russia often made concessions to the West, including limiting the sale of its weapons to countries in the Middle East.

As an example, they cite the freezing of the deal to provide Iran with more MiG-29 and MiG-31 fighters under pressure from Western countries in the early 1990s, as well as the refusal to supply the S-300 air defense systems that Iran ordered in the early 2010s, under the administration of Dmitry Medvedev.

In addition, the Military Watch recalls Iranian media reports claiming that Russia allegedly passed secret codes of the Syrian air defense system to Tel Aviv, which allowed the Israeli Air Force to attack a number of Iranian targets in the republic.

The authors of the material did not ignore such an aspect as strengthening the political, military and economic ties with China, for which Tehran may prefer a Chinese fighter jet.

As a result of the deal, Iran will be able not only to receive Chinese investments, but also to settle settlements with Beijing through barter - with oil or other resources, which will avoid the calculation in dollars.

At the end of the article, Military Watch Magazine experts give yet another argument in favor of Tehran giving its preference to the Chinese J-10C: Iran’s desire to avoid over-reliance on Russian weapons.

It must be admitted that the arguments of an authoritative publication specializing in military topics are not without meaning in some aspects.

How his assumptions turned out to be true can be judged by the end of the current or the beginning of next year.
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  1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
    Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) April 3 2020 09: 57
    +2
    Most likely, the main role here will be played by price. China itself is switching to more modern aircraft (based on the Su-27) and is removing the J-10 from weapons. J-10s that China does not need will cost very little, but their combat qualities will be lower than those of modern cars ...
  2. Orange big Offline Orange big
    Orange big (Max) April 3 2020 10: 41
    +3
    The Islamic Republic is expected to conclude a contract for the purchase of modern fighters by the end of the year.

    Iran in its current economic situation due to sanctions and coronavirus cannot afford to buy fighter jets abroad. They rely on the production of those fighters, which they themselves at least call fighters of the 5th generation Qaher F-313. So, it is useless for them to offer anything.
    1. Kristallovich Online Kristallovich
      Kristallovich (Ruslan) April 3 2020 10: 50
      -1
      By barter.
      1. Dear sofa expert. April 3 2020 13: 25
        -1
        Or Blockchain.
    2. mor7d Offline mor7d
      mor7d (mor7d) April 4 2020 10: 09
      -5
      Iran in its current economic situation

      I totally agree.
  3. Lieutenant Rzhevsky I April 3 2020 12: 14
    +1
    "Xperds" are guessing by a thread, as it were, to put it mildly, from the bikini zone.
  4. Lieutenant Rzhevsky I April 3 2020 12: 21
    +1
    A smart buyer will do it easier, ask sellers to demonstrate the superiority of their product over competitor products in this way.

    Tested in the USA and Russia. Training aerial combat SU-27 UB against the F-15D in Langley.

    http://alternathistory.com/ispytano-v-ssha-i-rossii-uchebnye-vozdushnye-boi-su-27-ub-protiv-f-15d-v-lengli/
  5. 123 Offline 123
    123 (123) April 3 2020 13: 18
    +2
    If I am not mistaken, restrictions on the supply of weapons end in the summer. Consequently, the issue of extending sanctions will be raised and there will be a vote. If you plan to take Chinese planes, what is the interest of Russia? According to the last "deal", Iran decided that life is wonderful, all cooperation will be with Europe, and Russia is not particularly needed. Like fortune, the Iranians turned sideways, to say the least, all in the know. I hope they can draw conclusions.
    As for the technical side of the issue, it does not make sense to compare the Mig-35 with a single-engine J-10C. And so it is clear, Mig is better, but more expensive.
    In general, I believe that both fighters will be taken, smaller Migov, more Chinese, because getting a better Russian plane is useful for studying by our own specialists, and it can even compete with modern Western aircraft on equal terms. Chinese fighters are a more massive and cheaper option to quickly upgrade the antique fleet of the Iranian Air Force.
    Speaking of barter. China seems to have taken almost all of Iran’s oil production under its wing. Something is not heard how things are going. It does not seem that Iran has anything wonderful in this regard. Is the "Chinese roof" so reliable? The question is. This can be judged by the example of Venezuela, China does not greatly reflect there. The relationship with the United States is too strong, the umbilical cord cut off - and both will not be good.
  6. albor.ru Offline albor.ru
    albor.ru (Alexander) April 3 2020 14: 50
    +3
    Why refuse? Yes, thoughtlessly. A copy is always worse than the original.

    “I don’t like the way this Pavarotti sings.”
    -ABOUT! Abram! Did you listen to Pavarotti !?
    - Not. Moisha sang to me ...
  7. Myself needs to build new cars, and sell old stuff over a hill!
  8. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
    Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) April 3 2020 18: 51
    -5
    I would like to hope that there is enough intelligence and that the embargo will not be lifted.
    1. Wanderer039 Offline Wanderer039
      Wanderer039 April 4 2020 16: 32
      +3
      And why do we observe an embargo that is acceptable and beneficial only to the anti-Russian bloc led by the USA ?!
      1. Arkharov Offline Arkharov
        Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) April 4 2020 16: 52
        -3
        Do you want a doomsday?
        1. bear040 Offline bear040
          bear040 April 4 2020 22: 31
          +4
          If you send away grabbers from the USA who dream of ruling the World, the end of the world will come ?! Rather, it will come if everyone lies under the thieves from Washington, who wants to rob the whole World, and to devour all the loot in the states !!!
  9. mor7d Offline mor7d
    mor7d (mor7d) April 4 2020 10: 08
    -5
    why can Iran abandon the Russian aircraft

    The war in Syria is coming to an end. Which of the current occupiers will remain in the country, how will they divide Syria among themselves? This is where the showdown between Iran and the Russian Federation will begin. In light of this, the Iranians do not want to give the Russian Federation a means of pressure on them.
    1. Orange big Offline Orange big
      Orange big (Max) April 4 2020 11: 08
      +3
      Russia is not going to divide Syria, unlike Turkey (Idlib, Turkoman lands) and Iran (the Shiite crescent from Iraq to Lebanon via Syria). In addition, Saudi Arabia is establishing relations with Syria through the UAE, the Arabs want to act as a united front against both Turkey and Iran (Israel is ready to help them with this). Russia is equidistant from all parties to the conflict and is a mediator in the region. She needs bases and that no one builds oil and gas pipelines through Syria to Europe.
      With regard to fighters, Iran itself produces a copy of the F-5, is going to launch production of a new generation Qaher F-313 fighter and is not so rich as to buy aircraft from someone. So I am surprised by the argument that Iran will allegedly start from someone fly fighters. Engines for their fighters are still possible, but not the fighters themselves.
      1. mor7d Offline mor7d
        mor7d (mor7d) April 4 2020 11: 13
        -6
        Russia is equidistant from all sides

        Okay, equidistant. That is, when the war in Syria ends, the Russian Federation will collect their things and leave Syria? Those. it turns out that all this, all this dirty work, was done for Assad and the Iranians, so that they were pleased? How do you imagine the day after? After everything is over and there will be nobody to bomb?
        1. Orange big Offline Orange big
          Orange big (Max) April 4 2020 11: 21
          +2
          That is, when the war in Syria ends, the Russian Federation will collect their things and leave Syria?

          When the war in Syria ends by means of the Constitutional consensus (adoption of a new constitution that suits everyone), Syria will strive to leave all Russia, Iran, Turkey, and the United States with the coalition. Bases on securities of Russia were given away for 49 years, but how it will be in reality is not yet known.

          ... all this dirty work was done for Assad and the Iranians, so that they would be pleased?

          Of course not. They defended their interests (preventing the construction of oil and gas pipelines and the destruction of dangerous terrorists as weapons in the hands of the West). Syria and Iran are fellow travelers, interests coincided for a certain period of time.
      2. mor7d Offline mor7d
        mor7d (mor7d) April 4 2020 11: 16
        -8
        She needs bases and so no one builds oil and gas pipelines through Syria to Europe

        That is, the Russian Federation is still going to intervene in the internal affairs of Syria, i.e. still the occupier.
        1. Orange big Offline Orange big
          Orange big (Max) April 4 2020 11: 26
          +1
          How can Russia be an occupier if Syria officially called on it to help in the fight against terrorism? Russia itself did not invade, it was called, albeit from hopelessness. In July 2015, Kassem Suleymani (IRI) came to Moscow with a request to help Assad. In the fall of 2015, the Russian Aerospace Forces began operations in Syria. What was the bargain and what was promised, is known to few.
          1. mor7d Offline mor7d
            mor7d (mor7d) April 4 2020 11: 28
            -5
            She needs bases and so no one builds oil and gas pipelines through Syria to Europe

            What is this called?
            1. Orange big Offline Orange big
              Orange big (Max) April 4 2020 11: 32
              +2
              The interests of the country. Competition. The USA also does not want the construction of the same Nord Stream-2. This is the norm in international politics. Everyone defends their interests. Business, nothing personal.
              1. mor7d Offline mor7d
                mor7d (mor7d) April 4 2020 12: 41
                -6
                Country interests

                I do not mean it. As they say, when one country brought its planes, tanks, troops to another country and after the end of the conflict remained there and did something.

                so that no one builds oil and gas pipelines through Syria to Europe

                Those. The Russian Federation is still going to intervene in the internal affairs of Syria, i.e. still the occupier.
                1. Orange big Offline Orange big
                  Orange big (Max) April 4 2020 14: 48
                  +2
                  ... when one country brought its planes, tanks, troops to another country and after the end of the conflict remained there and did something.

                  Is the conflict in Syria over? But the Turks in the North, Kurds and Americans in the East? Is the war really over and all issues settled?

                  Those. The Russian Federation is still going to intervene in the internal affairs of Syria, i.e. still the occupier.

                  Syria itself called Russia to intervene in its internal affairs, since it itself could not have resolved the situation. All the countries neighboring Syria interfere in its affairs - Israel, Turkey, Iran, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, as well as the USA and coalition countries, especially France and Great Britain, and Syria did not call them, with the exception of Iran, because all of the above occupiers. Russia is not. She is there only to fight terrorism and does not count on any land in Syria, unlike Israel, which had grabbed the Golan Heights, Turkey, which occupied northern Syria, the United States and its minions, stealing oil and building military bases on foreign lands without permission , as well as those who created puppet Kurdistan in eastern Syria in the occupied lands.
                  1. mor7d Offline mor7d
                    mor7d (mor7d) April 4 2020 14: 54
                    -4
                    Syria itself called Russia

                    I ask, what will happen after? When they tell you everything, did the dirty work and can you go home, bye, bye? Will you also begin to howl that you were called?
                    1. Orange big Offline Orange big
                      Orange big (Max) April 4 2020 15: 01
                      +2
                      Only the coastal bases of Khmeimim and Tartus will remain, as guarantors of the world, and everything else will be withdrawn from the country. This is assuming. that the IRGC, the Turkish army, the American coalition and the PKK will leave Syria, leaving everything that has been depressed over the years, which is hard to believe. I think the former Syria will no longer be in fact. It is good that at least something very substantial remained for the SAA, but Russia did not help, Assad would not have been in Damascus.
                      1. mor7d Offline mor7d
                        mor7d (mor7d) April 4 2020 19: 47
                        -4
                        Only coastal bases will remain

                        Firstly, this is a question, and secondly, you will threaten the country with these bases. Syria, which has already told you good bye? So it turns out? This is occupation.

                        former Syria will be gone

                        I agree. Judging by your vision, you are occupying the country and leaving Assad, as a screen covering the occupation, a sort of governor.