Aerobatics: the American F-22 proved that it can do the same as the Su-35


US military pilots have demonstrated that the F-22 multi-role fighter is not inferior in maneuverability to the Russian Su-35 fighter, which is characterized as "super-maneuverable."


Channel “F-22 Demo Team” posted a video in which Major Josh “Cape” Gunderson of the demo flight group F-22 Raptor, shows the unique capabilities of the 5th generation American fighter.

Video recording recorded aerobatics that Gunderson performed on the F-22. They are similar to those performed at many demonstrations of the Su-35 and, often, are declared as figures that can only be performed by a Russian fighter.

In particular, we are talking about such aerobatics as “cobra”, “flat corkscrew”, turns and turns in place.


For comparison, you can offer a video filmed on the demonstration flights of a Russian fighter, which were held at Ataturk Airport in Istanbul during the "Technofest-2019", held in Turkey.


If you visually compare the flights of American and Russian fighters, it can hardly be argued that any of the combat aircraft is more maneuverable.

Therefore, Russian pilots in a real air battle with the F-22 should not count on the maneuverability of their fighter, as a definite advantage.
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  1. 123 Offline
    123 (123) 30 March 2020 15: 45
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    If you visually compare the flights of American and Russian fighters, it can hardly be argued that any of the combat aircraft is more maneuverable.

    Amazing success good A fifth generation airplane can do almost the same as a fourth generation airplane. True, not all, because the thrust vector control in the Su-35 is in 4 planes, in the F-22 in 2 planes. For clarity:


    Su-35


    F-22

    Americans apparently advertise a plane? Where can I buy?

    Therefore, Russian pilots in a real air battle with the F-22 should not count on the maneuverability of their fighter, as a definite advantage.

    Like the American, one should count on stealth.
  2. shadow Offline
    shadow 30 March 2020 16: 05
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    When you look at the Raptor, it feels like he is standing still. In addition, if removed from the ground, then why such a large approximation? Maybe they want to hide something? And what is the view from the cab for? To make it more realistic? And why is this done?
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      solo2791 (Sergey Solovyov) April 1 2020 16: 46
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      When viewed from the cockpit in the sky, clouds, and in the picture to the right (where the plane supposedly flies) is a purely blue background. It seems to me that only Ukrainians will believe this picture)
  3. Lieutenant Rzhevsky I 30 March 2020 16: 16
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    The author was shy to sign his epoch-making creation. Advertising article? Gulchatay! Show your face.
  4. Sergey Latyshev Offline
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 30 March 2020 17: 08
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    In fact, in the internet for a long time there are videos with cobra, turns, etc. performed by western fighters.
    In the VO in the comments, people specifically post the most spectacular ...
    Differences in degrees of slope during execution are omitted, ours is probably more ....

    In combat, any reduction in speed for such figures is death. But at speeds this is not true.

    They often show something else there - rotation and sharpness of rotation at speed. And single-engine aircraft are good at this — they are simply lighter.
    1. Locksmith Offline
      Locksmith (Sergei) 30 March 2020 17: 19
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      The Su-35 is able to do an azimuthal turn of 360 degrees on the “cobra”, this is a unique attack flying from behind. For the Su-57, even this is not necessary, there is a radar and rockets = for the attacker from behind, and piloting is like a statement of the impossibility of previous attacks.
  5. Dzafdet Offline
    Dzafdet (Sergei) 30 March 2020 17: 47
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    That's just Rafal made them, and more than once, and not two ....
  6. Alexander Semenov (Alexander Semenov) 30 March 2020 18: 00
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    Any aircraft needs a high-class pilot, and there are few of them everywhere, both in our troops and in them.
  7. ioann.grozny Offline
    ioann.grozny (Mikhail Sharov) 30 March 2020 18: 19
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    Because I'm not a military pilot, I can’t judge the usefulness of such maneuvers for real air combat, but, of course, the author is disingenuous when he says that the F-22 has shown that it can perform “all” maneuvers that the Su-35 is capable of. Almost everything that is shown in the video can be performed on a regular aerobatic airplane (some Su-26, Pitts Special, or even Decathlon). In addition to "cobra" and "pancake". But the real "pancake" F-22 just can not do, simply due to the lack of horizontal control by the thrust vector. Even in the video, this is called a “pedal U-turn”. “Cobra” is also a little “sluggish”: this can be judged by the speed of maneuver. Maybe they spare the design of the plane, maybe something else. By the way, the “cobra” can, with skill, be performed on any aircraft that can fly at supercritical angles of attack - on virtually any modern fighter. You can bend the plane (such cases have happened with the F-16, for example), but ....

    On an ordinary plane, when you try to perform these maneuvers, the flow will stall and instead of a “cobra” you will get a “horizontal corkscrew”, and instead of a “pedal turn” - a regular corkscrew. The last maneuver I necessarily show to all cadets so that they remember the pedals.

    And the last: the speed (as well as the radius) of the turn (while maintaining the flight speed) due to aerodynamics, depends on only one thing: airspeed and nothing else. The higher the airspeed, the slower the turn. Using vector thrust will help, but slow down the plane. This is just physics. For example, when flying in the mountains, when you need to deploy in a limited space, the recommendations are: release the flaps, reduce the speed as much as possible, cling to the slope. For many pilots in Alaska, this saved their lives.

    Both the F-22 and the Su-35 are decent aircraft, and military pilots are unlikely to rely on one thing, such as maneuverability, in battle. As well as to treat the enemy do not care. In terms of cost, they, of course, vary significantly ... But this is for engineers.
  8. Barmaley_2 Offline
    Barmaley_2 (Barmaley) 31 March 2020 03: 46
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    Even immediately noticeable that some aerobatics Drying performs steeper.
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    Binder (Miron) 31 March 2020 04: 13
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    Lord Russians, calm down! Russian fighters will not have to engage in air combat with the F-22 or F-35 - they will simply be destroyed yet BEFORE how they even notice the enemy. So, enjoy the spectacular demo flights of the Su-35 and continue to believe that Russia is “ahead of the rest”. hi
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      Orange big (Max) 31 March 2020 13: 05
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      Quote: Bindyuzhnik
      Lord Russians, calm down! Russian fighters will not have to engage in air combat with the F-22 or F-35 - they will simply be destroyed yet BEFORE how they even notice the enemy. So, enjoy the spectacular demo flights of the Su-35 and continue to believe that Russia is “ahead of the rest”. hi

      Another victim of advertising. The Americans themselves do not think so, as you think, but you can.
  10. steelmaker Offline
    steelmaker 31 March 2020 08: 58
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    During the reign of Serdyukov, dozens of flight schools were closed. Shoigu restored only six. As can be seen from the article, we can do airplanes, but there is an acute shortage of good pilots. Maybe that’s why, we have no more than 25 combat aircraft in a year. In 2019, we received 23 in general.

    https://regnum.ru/news/polit/2827280.html

    It’s not enough to be able to make good airplanes, you still have to be able to cook good pilots!
  11. Alexander Morgunov (Alexander Morgunov) 31 March 2020 12: 23
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    The video is very beautiful. The pilot is a professional. Although ours are ours. They are the best.
  12. Rus Offline
    Rus 31 March 2020 22: 05
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    This is a lie! Rotting Western fools cannot do something like our Great Power! This is Photoshop!
  13. koin.samuil Offline
    koin.samuil (Samuel) April 7 2020 19: 22
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    I would like to know if the author is a specialist or just flew passenger planes?
  14. master3 Offline
    master3 (Vitali) April 7 2020 20: 53
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    F-22 proved that it can do the same as the Su-35.

    - and that someone doubted? And yet, to whom did you prove it?