Gas negotiations: new volumes of transit through Ukraine revealed

December 21 2019 42

Recently we Reported, as the head of Naftogaz Ukrainy NJSC Andrei Kobolev spoke about Kiev’s chances to sign a gas transit contract with Moscow, adding that without transit the cost of Ukrainian gas transportation system would not exceed UAH 34 billion. ($ 1,45 billion). And so, from Kiev we were informed how much transit through Ukrainian territory will be in the next five years under a new contract.

Information voiced by "Ukrainian news"A source close to the bilateral negotiations taking place in Minsk (Belarus). In addition, he specified that the transit tariff will be calculated according to the European methodology. So, according to the source, in 2020 gas transit will amount to 65 billion cubic meters. In 2021-2024, gas transit will be 40 billion cubic meters. m annually.

The source also specified that Moscow would pay Kiev about $ 3 billion by the end of 2019 by decision of the Stockholm arbitration. For this, Ukraine will abandon other claims and claims.

It should be noted that before this, slightly different figures were called. In 2020, transit - 50 billion cubic meters. m, in 2021 - 40 billion cubic meters. m, in 2022-2024 - 30 billion cubic meters each. m annually. Which of these points of view will turn out to be true, we will soon find out.

We remind you that on December 20, 2019, information was received that Moscow and Kiev agreed on a new transit agreement. Moreover, the Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Government Dmitry Kozak said that by the end of 2019 the parties will sign it and it will be designed for five years.

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Afinogen

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21 December 2019 10: 33

The source also specified that Moscow would pay Kiev about $ 3 billion by the end of 2019 by decision of the Stockholm arbitration. For this, Ukraine will abandon other claims and claims.

Ukraine owes us 3 billion, and this is not some political whim of the Stockholm arbitration (it is strange that Stockholm, and not American - they would have counted five times more for payment) - this is our living money that we gave them. And which our government, it seems, also forgave them, sort of like - take it, Russia will not become poor, in extreme cases, we will raise the retirement age. So I have a question: if you so want to pay them these three billion (although they trumpeted all the media that the main condition for signing the contract is the cancellation of all litigation), so to speak, repay us the debt, we will pay you this money for the Stockholm lawsuit arbitration.
1. boriz
  
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  21 December 2019 12: 16
  
  You really don’t understand what happened? The war has begun. And its first victims were the security forces in the Lubyanka.
  There is no such coincidence: they started shooting at the Lubyanka exactly when Putin spoke there and when gas negotiations were held in Minsk. It was blackmail by mass terrorist attacks. Otherwise, the Russian Federation would continue to roll around.
  And today stopped SP2. A billion-dollar pipe hung in the air. While in the air.
  In theory, reciprocal steps should follow. For example, the complete cessation of space cooperation: the unfastening of its ISS sector, the cessation of engine supplies, the cessation of space tourism of Americans. Termination of supplies of titanium parts to Boeing (with continued supply to Airbus).
  The goal of the Americans is to remove Putin. Then Ukraine will begin. Moreover, at an accelerated pace, so that we can no longer recover.
  1. Observer2014
    
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    21 December 2019 13: 11
    
    Quote: boriz
    You really don’t understand what happened? The war has begun. And its first victims were the security forces in the Lubyanka.
    There is no such coincidence: they started shooting at the Lubyanka exactly when Putin spoke there and when gas negotiations were held in Minsk. It was blackmail by mass terrorist attacks. Otherwise, the Russian Federation would continue to roll around.
    And today stopped SP2. A pipe worth billions hung in the air. While in the air.
    In theory, reciprocal steps should follow. For example, the complete cessation of space cooperation: the unfastening of its ISS sector, the cessation of engine supplies, and the cessation of space tourism for Americans. Termination of supplies of titanium parts to Boeing (with continued supply to Airbus).
    The goal of the Americans is to remove Putin. Then Ukraine will begin. Moreover, at an accelerated pace, so that we can no longer recover.
    
    Call Putin, tell him to "strengthen" his position with some other "reform". Looking for support in difficult times? Yeah, ShchAZ. At the beginning, salary is like normal people. And retirement age back. And then there will be support and respect. And here is the whining that I printed, tell your family in the kitchen. Enough patriotism with us. It was enough to watch the ruling elite raving with fat.
    1. boriz
      
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      21 December 2019 13: 28
      
      Didn’t forget to put on the pan?
    2. Nick
      
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      22 December 2019 09: 23
      
      Quote: Observer2014
      It was enough to watch the ruling elite raving with fat.
      
      Well, this is given to whom much is given, more will be asked.
      And who makes you look, envy? Envy is a sin. Get busy. Think about saving the soul. You look, and you will be lucky for happiness.
  2. Victor N
    
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    21 December 2019 17: 21
    
    What a belligerent you are! And, most importantly, you do not feel sorry for someone else's lost profit! And for what? Lubyanka from the SP-2 is very far.
2. yuri semru
  
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  21 December 2019 12: 20
  
  Ukraine already owes not three, but four and a half billion (including interest).
  1. Afinogen
    
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    21 December 2019 12: 29
    
    Even better, then one and a half lard will remain with us, we can still build a bridge of the Crimean type. For example, on Sakhalin.
  2. Victor N
    
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    21 December 2019 17: 35
    
    This is other money not related to gas.
    1. Afinogen
      
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      21 December 2019 19: 06
      
      Of course, they are not connected, we simply will never see them. For Ukraine declared to whom we owe, we forgive everyone. And they directly stated about our duty that we will not give. And they wanted to spit on international courts. So I must say - give us your debt and with this money we will pay you back for the Stockholm arbitration .. Europe and America won’t push the law on land sale in Ukraine in vain. They want their money to be returned by land, otherwise nothing. They also understood that there was nothing to take from Ukraine.
3. Nick
  
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  22 December 2019 08: 43
  
  Quote: Athenogen
  Ukraine owes us 3 billion, and this is not some political whim of the Stockholm arbitration (it is strange that Stockholm, and not American - they would have counted five times more for payment) - this is our living money that we gave them. And which our government seems to have forgiven for them too.
  
  Ukrainian political scientist Rostislav Ishchenko said that Ukraine will not receive this money. Gazprom will transfer them to the Russian budget to pay off the 3 billion loan Ukraine took from Russia under Yanukovych.
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Krasstar

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21 December 2019 11: 44

Zrado-peremoga performed by the Russian authorities. It seems that US-led Ukraine looks a little better than Ukraine-led Russia.
Brzezinski’s plan is being implemented without any hesitation or cover - a new world will be built against Russia, at the expense of Russia, on the ruins of Russia.
HU FROM MR. PUTIN ???
1. Afinogen
  
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  21 December 2019 12: 06
  
  I get the feeling that everything is controlled from America. They hit the whole world with their dollar, like mold, everyone jump on their hind legs in front of him, not realizing that this is just a piece of paper, not backed by anything, and the collapse of the dollar is the near future. But they are sold, betrayed because of him. Take our government, they do everything on purpose so that people live poorly, in poverty, but they shout over the "zombie box" that we are about to live, there is no money, but you are holding on. Everyone (officials, deputies, oligarchs) has accounts (that which was acquired by back-breaking labor) abroad. The kids study and live there. The property has already been purchased and is waiting in the wings. When the people get tired of it, they will throw off this power. To take a simple example, Lavrov's daughter is a US citizen. And the question is - what kind of independent foreign policy can we talk about ??? They only pretend that they are doing something for the country, in fact, they only personally enrich themselves. It will only get worse and worse. New taxes will be invented for the Russians, the retirement age will be increased, or even the pension will be canceled altogether (there is nothing to feed the poor).
  1. Victor N
    
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    21 December 2019 17: 41
    
    Why are you so lamenting as a wretched grandmother? Do you think that something will fall into your hands if you scold the authorities? Or are you making money from it? - Such an impression.
  2. Bulanov
    
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    23 December 2019 09: 38
    
    Or maybe the children of officials in NATO countries are like children of boyars - hostages at the Batu court?
2. boriz
  
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  21 December 2019 12: 38
  
  krasstar (Igor),
  A little higher, I wrote what happened. Stop your stupid things, like Putin leaked everything. Everything is much more serious.
  1. Krasstar
    
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    21 December 2019 17: 53
    
    For the past 20 years, as in Russia, everything is serious with Putin. Overslept, pros ... l, or what else was he interested in doing there? And ...., yes - a slave in the galleys ... but it is not specified who has slavery and whose galley ... Here, and to the ruins is not far.
    1. boriz
      
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      21 December 2019 18: 01
      
      Well, suddenly, it will help. The descendants of the Sumerians hysterical 6 years ago, now it begins to reach the point that they were wrong. But you can’t restore the country.
3. Nick
  
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  22 December 2019 08: 56
  
  Quote: krasstar
  Zrado-peremoga performed by the Russian authorities.
  
  Write in Russian.
  
  Quote: krasstar
  It seems that US-led Ukraine looks a little better
  
  You have the wrong impression.
  
  Quote: krasstar
  Ukraine-controlled Russia.
  
  This statement seems to be a sign of degradation of thinking. .
  
  Quote: krasstar
  Brzezinski’s plan is being implemented without any hesitation or cover - a new world will be built against Russia, at the expense of Russia, on the ruins of Russia.
  
  The old man Zbignev did not wait for his dream, he played in a box. And you too will not wait.
  
  Quote: krasstar
  HU FROM MR. PUTIN ???
  
  What, you have not yet been informed? I inform you: Western media announced VV Putin's Super President.
  Live happily ever after!
  1. Krasstar
    
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    22 December 2019 20: 58
    
    I am very pleased with the Western media, "dead old men", Russians degrading in thinking, Ukrainian relatives who consider Russia an aggressor and a slogan written in an incorrect transcription. I am not happy about this MORNEY.
    1. isofat
      
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      22 December 2019 23: 50
      
      krasstar (Igor)try now to convince the Ukrainians of their victory. They apparently did not read your conclusions and are not at all happy.
      
      https://112.ua/mnenie/chto-nam-skazali-to-my-i-podpisali-somnitelnaya-pobeda-ukrainy-v-gazovyh-peregovorah-s-rf-519557.html
nnz226

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21 December 2019 12: 51

And "Gazprom" voted about the extension of the current or the conclusion of a new contract for only ONE year !!! The representatives of the "national heritage" lied to the people ?!
1. Victor N
  
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  21 December 2019 17: 46
  
  You have high self-esteem. If you think that YOU personally lied, I have not been honored with such an honor. Yes, and it's hard for ME to determine: which is better - a year or five?
2. Nick
  
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  22 December 2019 09: 04
  
  Quote: nnz226
  And "Gazprom" voted about the extension of the current or the conclusion of a new contract for only ONE year !!! The representatives of the "national heritage" lied to the people ?!
  
  Vote you, and Gazprom offered Ukraine to extend the contract for one year. Ukraine offered to conclude for ten years. Gazprom "moved" by four years, Ukraine "moved" by five years. So they agreed on five.
rotkiv04

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21 December 2019 13: 12

There is only one conclusion - Putin is a rag and a PR man.
1. Nick
  
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  22 December 2019 09: 06
  
  Quote: rotkiv04
  There is only one conclusion - Putin is a rag and a PR man.
  
  There is only one conclusion - you live in virtual reality.
Marzhecki

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21 December 2019 13: 39

Quote: nnz226
And "Gazprom" voted about the extension of the current or the conclusion of a new contract for only ONE year !!! The representatives of the "national heritage" lied to the people ?!

And we warned:

https://topcor.ru/12306-5-let-i-40-mlrd-kubometrov-v-god-dlja-ukrainy-o-chem-molchat-putin-i-gazprom.html

We read the comments of cheers-patriots ... user 123, what are you silent?
1. rotkiv04
  
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  21 December 2019 14: 12
  
  You are lying, the guarantor is good, this is the scum boyars.
2. isofat
  
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  21 December 2019 14: 18
  
  Five years is exactly the term that was released to Ukraine to clean up the "Bandera" on its territory.
3. boriz
  
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  21 December 2019 18: 31
  
  Regarding your post:
  
  Вfirstly, Ukraine finally passes to the European rules of the game.
  
  So where is the final transition? Squiggle Ze on some pipifax in itself costs nothing. No matter how crucified Marunich (bought by Naftogaz), there is no certification from the EU Gas Transit Association. I had to depict a gasket from Naftogaz, which takes risks upon itself. And they, in case of risks, are insolvent. All free money (including stolen from the budget) went to Kobolev’s mother in America.
  
  Secondly, according to the statements of the Ukrainian side, Kiev was able to “bend” our “national treasure” well»
  
  The petty, thin mongrel Ukraine cannot bend Gazprom. Not Ukraine stopped SP2. And the shooting at the Lubyanka, by a strange coincidence, at the time of Putin’s speech and, at the same time, the Minsk talks, was not organized by Ukraine. Personally, I believe that this was blackmail by mass terrorist attacks. Why did they talk for another 6 hours after the shooting?
  And it is still unknown what these protocols will result in for the Sumerians. Even the signed agreement does not oblige to begin pumping from 01.01.2020/XNUMX/XNUMX. You can pump in the summer. And this is a big trouble for them. Even new sanctions show that the Sumerians got to Russia. And the sanctions of the Russian Federation will not cancel. If only he introduces new ones.
  In order to start pumping, you need applications from European operators. But they are not yet. 13.12.2019/XNUMX/XNUMX the deadline is over. They extended the term. We are waiting, sir. The lack of applications shows that in Europe, the Sumerians got everyone.
  The thing is that neither Gazprom nor European operators are interested in starting pumping. Due to overfilling of storage facilities, gas prices have already fallen. Why lower them further?
  But for Ukraine these are problems. Even a one-week stop will exacerbate the problem of technical gas stolen by Ukraine. He is not there, Kobolev warned about this in the spring and Gazprom did not blame him. We will finish the pumping, and in a few hours in Europe they will record a gas shortage of more than $ 100. Scandal. Court.
  When stopping transit, it will be necessary to pump gas to the east. Not the fact that they can. In the summer, they did not work out this scenario. 10 years have not tried to do so. And the GTS has worn out during this time, and the staff scattered. Pipes already explode already, Marunich told.
  Well, the tariffs in the protocol are packed competitively. And this should be discussed additionally.
  And the contract has not been signed yet.
4. 123
  
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  22 December 2019 00: 57
  
  We read the comments of cheers-patriots ... user 123, what are you silent?
  Sorry, I was busy, I was revising the cartoon about Matroskin. Ours with a brush to polymer seekers. Unfortunately, time later, I didn’t find you at a military post, I hope you don’t go too far with champagne and fireworks and on Monday you can come to work. In general, it’s embarrassing to bother, but when you return to the sinful land, the public can familiarize yourself with the details, which company they conclude the contract with, on what conditions, the amount of payment for pumping. So to speak, for completeness, weigh the pros and cons. Then we give a balanced assessment of what happened.
  1. Nick
    
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    22 December 2019 09: 11
    
    Quote: 123
    In general, it’s embarrassing to bother, but when you return to the sinful land, the public can familiarize yourself with the details, which company they conclude the contract with, on what conditions, the amount of payment for pumping. So to speak, for completeness, weigh the pros and cons
    
    Yes, they don’t need it, they need to trouble the brain. They only need to crow, for this the grandmothers pay them, and there at least do not dawn.
    1. 123
      
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      22 December 2019 10: 47
      
      Nick I think the author is glad that the published forecast, or one of the forecasts, came true (at least in general terms), now you don’t remember how many there were, he is now not in detail. Will return, can write in more detail. Without this, the picture is incomplete.
      As for arbitration, the author was right, to be honest, I doubted such a decision. This is a serious blow to the reputation of the European justice system, undermining its credibility and the consequences are not yet fully appreciated. I hope that the conclusions will be made correct and not only by us. Here he is, the Stockholm court.
      1. plabu
        
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        22 December 2019 17: 18
        
        Quote: 123
        ... As for arbitration, the author was right, to be honest, I doubted such a decision. This is a serious blow to the reputation of the European justice system, undermining its credibility and the consequences are not yet fully appreciated. I hope that the conclusions will be made correct and not only by us. Here it is, the Stockholm court...
        
        That’s exactly what a foreigner is about me .. well, let’s be a colleague, it’s not right to call a friend, we occasionally talk about professional topics, and so he wrote when he said that someone in his law firm works in his family - after such a decision, how many appeals on the change of arbitrator and the like - they were very grateful to the Swedes there in the company, they provided them with work for a long time
        
        123
        
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        22 December 2019 18: 34
        
        321 I think that your colleague also works for a European company, in fact, it doesn’t matter where the court is located, Sweden, Denmark or England, all of them are influenced to some extent from outside. Today Sweden has decided so, tomorrow England ....
        I don't see a quick solution to the problem. A way out in the creation of an international arbitration court, the EU, of course, will not support such an initiative, it is necessary to try, for example, within the BRIGS or the CIS, or the BRIGS and the CIS, countries that suffer from "Western sanctions" and promising candidates for obtaining similar "fair" court decisions. Iran, Venezuela, under certain circumstances, possibly Turkey, in general, if you work in this direction of 10-15 countries, you can first find it.
        This, of course, will not solve the problem completely, but for a start it would not be bad. The road will be overpowered by the walking one. It is necessary to stimulate avoiding the practice of using European legislation, to make it less profitable, possibly with the help of legislation. In general, this should be dealt with, which would be much more useful than, for example, in PACE to wipe the pants. U carried the same as usual until the thunder strikes ....
        Well, expand cooperation with other countries, further reduce the EU’s share in foreign trade.
        
        plabu
        
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        22 December 2019 19: 48
        
        It was European companies, as I understood, that “lathered the skis” from Sweden, they did NOT tell me the details, and I didn’t try to clarify where - commerce, there are secrets.
  2. boriz
    
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    22 December 2019 17: 33
    
    https://topcor.ru/12452-gazprom-proigral-no-izbezhal-gazovoj-vojny-s-ukrainoj.html
    
    In the comments on this article, I wrote something about the protocol. If interested, I'll throw off the protocol itself.
    1. 123
      
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      22 December 2019 18: 51
      
      Yes, it would be nice to read.
5. Nick
  
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  22 December 2019 09: 07
  
  Quote: Marzhetsky
  And we warned:
  
  Brad.
Port

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21 December 2019 15: 36

Quote: rotkiv04
rag and PR

Show me at least one adequate
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BoBot Robot - Free Thinking Machine

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22 December 2019 23: 55

Don’t give money in advance! First - suits, then - sausages!
1. BoBot Robot - Free Thinking Machine
  
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  24 December 2019 00: 00
  
  And do not give gas, either, until the claims are recalled!