The creation of the military base of the Russian Federation in the Indian Ocean was called a priority


Russia's new strategic activity in the Middle East and Africa implies a further exit to the Indian Ocean and the designation of its military presence in this region.


This conclusion was made by the chief editor of the journal for foreign affairs, director of the Institute of South Asian Studies of the National University of Singapore, Raja Mohan in his article published in the daily edition of The Indian Express.

In his opinion, one of Russia's priorities is the acquisition of its own naval base in the Indian Ocean.

The expert believes that for economic reasons, Moscow will not be able to dominate the region even if it has a military base. However, the presence of such a base there will allow it to influence the adoption of strategic decisions by the countries of the region.

As problems for India, Raja Mohan calls the growing relations between Russia and China, as well as increased tension in relations with the West.

Recall that for 49 years Russia has leased the port of Tartus in Syria, which will be used as a naval base.

In addition, Western media report Moscow’s intentions to acquire a number of military bases in the Arab Republic, in particular, the Kamyshly airfield, which was previously abandoned by the Americans, is mentioned.
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  1. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
    steelmaker 30 November 2019 16: 32
    +2
    I only support such decisions. And the area selected is correct. Let the Americans be nervous too. Still in South America to put a couple of bases, and trade with these countries will immediately go. Russia will not become poorer, but it will only become safer in the world. Advertising in Russia and Russian weapons is only good !!!
    1. Observer2014 Offline Observer2014
      Observer2014 30 November 2019 17: 00
      -7
      Quote: steel maker
      I only support such decisions. And the area selected is correct. Let the Americans be nervous too. Still in South America to put a couple of bases, and trade with these countries will immediately go. Russia will not become poorer, but it will only become safer in the world. Advertising in Russia and Russian weapons is only good !!!

      Howl "uRyaa-ah-ah" laughing Do not forget. Can we put a Russian base in our Russian city? Well, so that the quality of life improves. And the prices for medicines, for example, have even become lower? Jobs were adequately evaluated.
      1. molotkov60mkpu Offline molotkov60mkpu
        molotkov60mkpu (Yuri) 1 December 2019 22: 46
        +2
        Well, for this, do not set the base, but embark on the path of socialist construction.
        1. Ravshan Offline Ravshan
          Ravshan (Jamsut) 2 December 2019 00: 02
          -3
          Quote: molotkov60mkpu
          Well, for this, do not set the base, but embark on the path of socialist construction.

          And then put your teeth on the shelf and again go around the world with outstretched hand.
          It has recently been passed.
          It is a pity that some lessons were not learned the first time.
          1. plabu Offline plabu
            plabu 4 December 2019 06: 48
            +1
            Your "teaching style" is impossible by definition ... bully
            1. Ravshan Offline Ravshan
              Ravshan (Jamsut) 4 December 2019 11: 01
              -4
              Quote: 321
              Your "teaching style" is impossible by definition

              Of course.
              Indeed, in order to understand higher mathematics, you first need to master arithmetic. And only then there will be a chance that "will understand." And even then, it is not necessary.
              1. plabu Offline plabu
                plabu 4 December 2019 13: 28
                +1
                Personally, you still have to arithmetic, like to the moon with three weights, but you can continue to consider yourself even a professor, even an academician, it does not matter which academy, why even deprive you of a dream ?? Dream it, you can even do it. bully
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                  1. plabu Offline plabu
                    plabu 4 December 2019 14: 07
                    +1
                    Start with yourself, about learning - even in your grammar, glitches begin to appear - Learn, outwardly,exaggerate - and this is so, at first glance, not particularly looking. bully "And these people, these people forbid me to pick my nose?" - it's about you.
                    I will definitely NOT learn from you, nothing. hi
  2. Ravshan Offline Ravshan
    Ravshan (Jamsut) 30 November 2019 16: 43
    -6
    In his opinion, one of Russia's priorities is the acquisition of its own naval base in the Indian Ocean.
    The expert believes that for economic reasons, Moscow will not be able to dominate the region even if it has a military base. However, the presence of such a base there will allow it to influence the adoption of strategic decisions by the countries of the region.
    As problems for India, Raja Mohan calls the growing relations between Russia and China, as well as increased tension in relations with the West.
    Recall that for 49 years Russia has leased the port of Tartus in Syria, which will be used as a naval base.

    Apples and uncle in Kiev.
    This was written by a student unfamiliar with geography.
  3. Bakht Offline Bakht
    Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 30 November 2019 17: 00
    0
    Absolutely unnecessary idea. This phrase alone is enough -

    The expert believes that for economic reasons, Moscow will not be able to dominate the region even if it has a military base. However, the presence of such a base there will allow it to influence the adoption of strategic decisions by the countries of the region.

    Is it possible?
    1. Observer2014 Offline Observer2014
      Observer2014 30 November 2019 17: 07
      0
      Absolutely unnecessary idea. This phrase alone is enough

      yes In Russia! 24 military pennants of the ocean zone. And who is on the go. And who is not on the move. laughing I would like to wish urymarginalov to decide on priorities. And then it will tear and twist with the desire to embrace the immensity.
      1. Bakht Offline Bakht
        Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 30 November 2019 17: 09
        +1
        Singapore expert in an Indian magazine. It could not be printed here.
        1. Observer2014 Offline Observer2014
          Observer2014 30 November 2019 17: 11
          -2
          Quote: Bakht
          Singapore expert in an Indian magazine. It could not be printed here.

          Where to print it? On the MO site? Or the State Duma?
          1. Bakht Offline Bakht
            Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 30 November 2019 17: 17
            +1
            Generally nowhere.

            Before computers were invented, it was hypothesized that if a billion monkeys banged on the keyboard 24 hours a day, then, according to the theory of probability, they would print War and Peace in ten years. With the development of computers, this hypothesis died.
            1. Observer2014 Offline Observer2014
              Observer2014 30 November 2019 17: 51
              -3
              Quote: Bakht
              Generally nowhere

              Before computers were invented, it was hypothesized that if a billion monkeys banged on the keyboard 24 hours a day, then, according to the theory of probability, they would print War and Peace in ten years. With the development of computers, this hypothesis died.

              laughing good What to do. Very high technology. Such garbage sometimes you read wassat .Well, what to do. Business and nothing personal. bully
      2. commbatant Offline commbatant
        commbatant (Sergei) 30 November 2019 17: 44
        +2
        Quote: Observer2014
        In Russia! 24 military pennants of the ocean zone. And who is on the go. And who is not on the move.

        Aw, why so daringly said ....?
        In the article, not a word about the naval base or naval base of the Russian Navy in the Indian Ocean, from the word completely ....
        Apparently, it is planned to build a military airbase in the form of the Russian Federation Airborne Forces airborne forces and a multifunctional radar and the center of the radar and electronic warfare ...
        Possible dislocation, old and kind about. Socotra (Yemen) or the Seychelles ... And most interestingly, it will be beneficial for all countries in this region ....
  4. bear040 Offline bear040
    bear040 30 November 2019 19: 11
    +3
    Without a fleet, overseas bases cannot be maintained and it is even problematic to supply, and there are very few new frigates being built in the Russian Federation, and they are being built for a very long time ... You can’t go far on old Soviet-built ships, they are few, they are worn out and outdated.
    1. Ravshan Offline Ravshan
      Ravshan (Jamsut) 30 November 2019 19: 59
      -6
      Quote: bear040
      ... and very few new frigates are being built in the Russian Federation, and they have been building them for a very long time ...

      The Navy of Israel, and this is the 20th economist of the world, while Russia, the 21st, consists of:
      5 submarines:
      3 corvettes;
      10 missile boats;
      46 patrol boats.
      It's all. They do not have destroyers and other expensive equipment.
      The desire to jump above his head brought the USSR to collapse. The same desire and Russia will not bring anything good.
      1. 123 Offline 123
        123 (123) 1 December 2019 00: 16
        +3
        The Navy of Israel, and this is the 20th economy of the world, while Russia, the 21st, consists of:

        Not the 21st, but the 6th, in this case, the comparison in PPP will be much more correct. After all, ships are going to build and not buy, especially for dollars.

        The desire to jump above his head brought the USSR to collapse. The same desire and Russia will not bring anything good.

        Do you think this is already above your head? Turkey and Pakistan have three foreign bases each. And they will set up the frigates, they also spoke about corvettes. And the Israelis ride in German submarines, American corvettes, half of the import boats. So the comparison is unsuccessful. hi
        1. Ravshan Offline Ravshan
          Ravshan (Jamsut) 1 December 2019 01: 38
          -5
          Quote: 123
          Not the 21st, but the 6th, in this case, the PPP comparison will be much more correct.

          It is correct to compare economies by their size. And not on the product of national companies. Which then turns out to be not entirely national (but ultimately exaggerated), since "national company" (and even property) can easily be owned by foreigners and 50%.
          Therefore, GDP is for suckers. For understanding people NFA.
          And according to this indicator, the "net value of the country", approximately as translated by NFA, Russia, is the 21st economy in the world in 2018.
          15 Spain
          16 Brazil
          17 Belgium
          18 Sweden
          19 Mexico
          20 Israel
          21 Russia
          22 Singapore
          23 Denmark
          24 Austria
          25 New Zealand
          26 South Africa
          27 chile
          28 Poland
          29 malaysia
          30 Thailand

          Quote: 123
          After all, ships are going to build and not buy, especially for dollars.

          It does not matter. It's easy to count them in dollars. And it’s also easy to figure out what Russia can afford. And what can not.

          Quote: 123
          Turkey and Pakistan have three foreign bases each.

          And in Russia there are now a dozen of them. And this is a lot for her modest possibilities.

          Quote: 123
          And they will set up the frigates, they also spoke about corvettes.

          And what for?
          What for Russia frigates?
          Russia needs a strategic submarine fleet and a mosquito fleet that provides it. More Russia does not need anything floating. It is too expensive.

          Quote: 123
          And the Israelis ride in German submarines, American corvettes, half of the import boats.

          And Russia also needs to buy all this, except for underwater strategists. Because she herself can’t really build anything.
          She can’t build submarines either. But underwater strategists are delicate. Therefore, they must be built by ourselves. So what will turn out.
          1. 123 Offline 123
            123 (123) 1 December 2019 03: 07
            +3
            Familiar reasoning. laughing Can you be congratulated on reincarnation? Have you changed your nickname and returned? repeat Again old songs about the main thing?

            The economies are correctly compared by their values.

            The question is - for what purpose do you compare them. You want to understand the possibilities of a country to produce or build something, or to find out the cost of it. The construction of a ship, for example, is disproportionate in cost. To put it simply, we have GDP-100, the ship costs 10 and we can build 10. Our neighbors have GDP-500, and the ship costs 50, we have the same 10 at the output. But everything looks a lot more expensive there.

            And not on the product of national companies. Which then turns out to be not entirely national (but ultimately exaggerated), since "national company" (and even property) can easily be owned by foreigners and 50%.

            Does this not apply to your calculations? What can you define like that? How much did everyone evaluate it? If I have 10 million, I can buy a plot and build a house, and it doesn’t matter to me that it is more expensive across the ocean, and wrinkled degenerates are sitting somewhere, and some stocks have fallen in price or risen in price there. So, these animals counted something there and we should not climb anywhere? This will never happen. If you want, consider how they are, you can pray for them, in your opinion there will never be.

            Therefore, GDP is for suckers. For understanding people NFA.

            Sorry, to clarify for whom the NFA, I do not have the opportunity, you know, the rules of the site will be cut. hi

            It does not matter. It's easy to count them in dollars. It is also easy to calculate what Russia can afford and what cannot.

            Even as it has. Why convert them to dollars? What will it give? Ships are built in Russia and for Russia, and for rubles, and they will build how much is needed. And you can count and moan that we cannot, this will not affect anything.

            And in Russia there are now a dozen of them. And this is a lot for her modest possibilities.

            It’s not for you to evaluate these opportunities, you are a knower, so sit silently and recount.

            What the hell? What for Russia frigates? Russia needs a strategic submarine fleet and a mosquito fleet that provides it. More Russia does not need anything floating. It is too expensive.

            What do you know about this? You have a narrow specialization to count and nag. Outright dullness is being poked. How can a mosquito fleet provide nuclear submarines?

            And Russia also needs to buy all this, except for underwater strategists. Because she herself can’t really build anything.

            Have I already written about stupidity? Does the word Mistral tell you anything? It’s not worth undertaking to judge shipbuilding, it’s not yours. I would recommend you to blame everything on amateurs and evaluators, all the same, you don’t know anything anymore, even your argument is reasonably confirmed. True, I’m afraid that it will not work out, they don’t need you either.
            1. Ravshan Offline Ravshan
              Ravshan (Jamsut) 1 December 2019 11: 19
              -6
              Quote: 123
              The question is, for what purpose do you compare them.

              With any.
              If Vasya has 10 thousand rubles, then he can buy 10 pants for himself, but then he will have nothing to eat.
              And if he buys himself 2 pairs of pants, then he will also have enough food.
              At the same time, Petya, who has 20 thousand rubles, can afford to buy 12 pairs of pants. Plus the food.
              Very simple arithmetic. To which you have yet to reach.

              Quote: 123
              we have GDP-100, the ship costs 10 and we can build 10. Our neighbors have GDP-500, and the ship costs 50, we have the same 10 at the output.

              This is nonsense. No one will buy a ship for 50. Buy abroad (normal people) the same for 10.

              Quote: 123
              and it doesn’t matter to me that it is more expensive across the ocean

              For some reason you want to count everything in greyhound puppies.
              And this is not right.
              People invented money a long time ago. And for a long time, world currencies.
              Therefore, your homes are valued and accounted for in US dollars. And not in "sizes comparable in area". That is actually a profanation on your part.

              Quote: 123
              So, these animals counted something there and we should not climb anywhere? This will never happen.

              I recognize you even from behind.
              By blatant and warlike illiteracy.
              And to flaunt this ignorance.
              And on peremptory reasoning on topics in which there is no boom-boom.
              But I think, why such attempts to pull an owl on the globe?
              What is such ridiculous reasoning about some strange ships of 50?

              Quote: 123
              Ships are built in Russia both for Russia and for rubles, and they will build how much is needed.

              Oops. And immediately the duty nonsense about "ships for rubles."
              Quite expected.

              Quote: 123
              It’s not worth undertaking to judge shipbuilding, it’s not yours.

              You do not even understand what they are writing to you.
              In general, so, everything that I wanted to write to you, I already wrote to you.
              Do you want to listen.
              Do you want to talk about "ships for rubles" and "ships for 50".
              It’s not interesting for me to teach you the basics of economics.
              1. 123 Offline 123
                123 (123) 1 December 2019 14: 20
                +2
                With any.

                Any means no. So, in your opinion, are all these strange people creating various methods of estimating GDP, charlatans? After all, is there a valuation on the exchange overseas and only that matters? Kholuy psychology.

                If Vasya has 10 thousand rubles, then he can buy 10 pants for himself, but then he will have nothing to eat. And if he buys himself 2 pairs of pants, then he will also have enough food. At the same time, Petya, who has 20 thousand rubles, can afford to buy 12 pairs of pants. Plus food. Very simple arithmetic. To which you have yet to reach.

                Vasya does not have to buy pants at a price set overseas, by the way, and food (compare prices, the so-called bigmack index shows everything very clearly) Vasya can buy these pants near the house at half the price; and the pants will be, and will not remain hungry. In total, Vasya has exactly as many pants as he needs, there is food and still money left. And Petya, it’s more appropriate to call this overseas gentleman Padro, he doesn’t have enough money for his pants and food, so he is in debt, like in silk. That is why we have a surplus budget and reserves, and they have the largest debt in the world.

                This is nonsense. No one will buy a ship for 50. Buy abroad (normal people) the same for 10.

                Normal people will not buy weapons abroad; they themselves make them. By the way, did Mistral quietly miss? Do not offer to buy it?

                For some reason you all want to count in greyhound puppies. And this is wrong. People have invented money long ago. And for a long time, world currencies. Therefore, your homes are valued and accounted for in US dollars. And not in "sizes comparable in area". That is actually a profanation on your part.

                Since when have rubles become greyhound puppies? If you are hinting at Gogol's work, then what is lobbying, if not legalized corruption, it is the same as legalizing prostitution and drugs. People have invented money, and this is by no means an American invention, not even the "dollar" itself is derived from the word "thaler". My house is priced in rubles and I can buy and sell it for rubles, and build it for rubles, and it will be much cheaper. I will do without your assessment.

                I recognize you even from behind. By blatant and warlike illiteracy.
                And to flaunt this ignorance. And on peremptory reasoning on topics in which there is no boom-boom. But I think, why such attempts to pull an owl on the globe? What is such ridiculous reasoning about some strange ships of 50?

                It's a shame for the owners? smile

                Oops. And immediately the duty nonsense about "ships for rubles." Quite expected.

                Only "oops" and "boom boom" remained of the instruments. smile This is degradation. fool

                You don't even understand what they are writing to you. In general, everything that I wanted to write to you, I have already written to you. Want to listen. Do you want to talk about "ships for rubles" and "ships for 50". I am not interested in teaching you the basics of economics.

                I understood everything perfectly, I’m not going to listen to your sectarianism, I don’t need any teachings on the basics of economics. You in it do not understand anything from the word ABSOLUTELY. fool I wish you a pleasant time looking at stock quotes. hi
                1. Ravshan Offline Ravshan
                  Ravshan (Jamsut) 1 December 2019 15: 06
                  -5
                  Quote: 123
                  Any means no.

                  Bosh what.

                  Quote: 123
                  So, in your opinion, are all these strange people creating various methods of estimating GDP - charlatans?

                  Well, to begin with, no one creates a "methodology for estimating GDP".
                  There is such an economic indicator. One of many. But in Russia, for some reason, they love him very much.
                  I'll even tell you why. It masks the true position of the Russian economy in the world. And instead of the real 21st place in the world, the authorities and court economists "draw" from Russia the 6th world economy. Which is not true.
                  Normal, in principle, the course in the world of thimbles. But in essence - postscripts and fraud.
                  The 6th world economy is France.

                  Quote: 123
                  Vasya can buy these pants near the house at half the price

                  Who told you that next to the house the pants will be 2 times cheaper, not 2 times more expensive? Have you come up with such an "introductory"?

                  Quote: 123
                  That is why we have a surplus budget and reserves, and they have the largest debt in the world.

                  A surplus budget, if we translate it from economic to ordinary language, is called mismanagement and poor quality economic management.
                  As for the reserves, they are ephemeral and actually they are not there.
                  As for debt, but your allusions to the United States are simply ridiculous.
                  You are comparing debt with your beloved GDP. What's wrong. Because it is necessary to compare with NFA.
                  Those. comparing everything correctly, you will be surprised to find that US debt is simply insignificant. And assets many times exceed this debt. That is why Americans continue to lend and continue, introducing cotton wool into a stupor and amazement.

                  Quote: 123
                  Normal people will not buy weapons abroad; they themselves make them.

                  99% of the countries in the world buy weapons abroad. Including the USA. There is no country that makes all weapons the best. As for Russia, the quality of its weapons I will leave without comment.

                  Quote: 123
                  My house is valued in rubles and I can buy and sell it for rubles, and build for rubles, and it will be much cheaper.

                  This is nothing more than your verbiage. I really hope that you understand what they wrote to you about.

                  Quote: 123
                  It's a shame for the owners?

                  Do not strain. I, unlike you, am a fairly free person. Even mentally free.

                  Quote: 123
                  I understood everything perfectly, I’m not going to listen to your sectarianism, I don’t need any teachings on the basics of economics. You do not understand anything from the word AT ALL

                  1. I think they did not understand. Not your level.
                  2. Whether or not to listen is your choice.
                  3. Yes, you do not need teachings, because the horse is not fodder.
                  4. In economic matters (and not only in them) I understand at a completely expert level.

                  Quote: 123
                  Have a nice time looking at stock quotes

                  I do not play on the stock exchange.
                  1. 123 Offline 123
                    123 (123) 1 December 2019 16: 59
                    +3
                    Well, to begin with, no one creates a "methodology for estimating GDP".
                    There is such an economic indicator. One of many. But in Russia, for some reason, they love him very much.
                    I'll even tell you why. It masks the true position of the Russian economy in the world. And instead of the real 21st place in the world, the authorities and court economists "draw" from Russia the 6th world economy. Which is not true.
                    Normal in principle move in the world of thimbles. But in essence - postscripts and fraud.
                    The 6th world economy is France.

                    You are right, the economic indicator is one of many. And they don't just exist. It is, so to speak, a tool, different tools for different for different tasks. You are trying to "drive nails with a screwdriver and cut bread, and measure the voltage." For this particular case, your tool is not suitable, but you persistently push the screwdriver into the socket.

                    Who told you that next to the house the pants will be 2 times cheaper, not 2 times more expensive? Have you come up with such an "introductory"?

                    Well, why yourself, you imagine yourself an economist, have you really heard about production costs? There are objective indicators. Taxes are less, energy is cheaper, costs of paying employees are less, and so on. And after that, you are not able to understand that the products will be cheaper? Do you know exactly the meaning of the word economy? winked

                    A surplus budget, if we translate it from economic to ordinary language, is called mismanagement and poor quality economic management.

                    How, then, can the deficit budget be estimated? Those who do not know how to "make ends meet" collect debts for some time and inevitably "go down the drain."

                    As for the reserves, they are ephemeral and actually they are not there.

                    Here it turns out like. belay Money earned on accounts - as if they weren’t, request but some estimates are foreign and they are real, and most importantly. wassat I’m afraid to accept this point of view, I’ll have to plunge into a condition similar to yours. Share the recipe for what you smoke? smile

                    You are comparing debt with your beloved GDP. What's wrong. Because it is necessary to compare with NFA.

                    With what fright did they decide that I compare debt to GDP? belay

                    Those. comparing everything correctly, you will be surprised to find that US debt is simply insignificant. And assets many times exceed this debt.

                    I was surprised to discover your inadequacy. Firstly, they themselves evaluated their assets and I see no reason to trust her. The formula "it is customary for gentlemen to take their word" does not work. Is there an independent assessment? They have mortgaged all their property and are living in debt. They are hicks and the only thing that keeps creditors is the army. As soon as there is no money for the army, they have a skiff. They will tear a heating pad like a tuzik.

                    That is why Americans continue to lend and continue, introducing cotton wool into a stupor and amazement.

                    Really?

                    in September, foreign investors continued to withdraw funds from treasuries: the net outflow reached $ 34,32 billion. Japan got rid of US government bonds for a gigantic amount - almost $ 30 billion. Beijing is still actively selling these papers.

                    Russia threw off these candy wrappers even earlier. The shop closes.

                    99% of the countries in the world buy weapons abroad. Including the USA. There is no country that makes all weapons the best.

                    Yes, no country can fully provide itself with weapons, they buy what they cannot produce themselves. But the arms market has its own specifics. There are a lot of restrictions and the principle "go and buy what you need" does not work. For the third time, you ignored the sale of the Mistrals, but persist in repeating the same thing, as if it were not. If everything is so simple and wonderful, why don't the Americans buy the S-400 from us? But how do you know this, you are an "ECONOMIST". laughing

                    As for Russia, the quality of its weapons I will leave without comment.

                    And he is not required, the quality speaks for itself, it was appreciated by the market. Russia is the second-largest producer in the world, and this is without the administrative restrictions and pressure measures that the Americans are using.

                    This is nothing more than your verbiage. I really hope that you understand what they wrote to you about.

                    What verbiage is this? All prices are in rubles.

                    Do not strain. I, unlike you, am a fairly free person. Even mentally free.

                    Consider yourself anyone, judging by the rest of the statements, this is also quite dubious.

                    1. I think they did not understand. Not your level.
                    2. Whether or not to listen is your choice.
                    3. Yes, you do not need teachings, because the horse is not fodder.
                    4. In economic matters (and not only in them) I understand at a completely expert level.

                    The levels we have are really different, you can’t argue. lol And I agree about the choice, it's up to me. And I do not need your teachings, for your "food" is expired and rotten. Oh yes, I appreciated your "expert level". laughing Hello to the sectarians. hi

                    I do not play on the stock exchange.

                    Are you laying out "Monopoly" at home? smile
                    1. Ravshan Offline Ravshan
                      Ravshan (Jamsut) 1 December 2019 17: 54
                      -4
                      Quote: 123
                      For this particular case, your tool is not suitable, but you persistently stick a screwdriver into a socket.

                      Actually, everything is exactly the opposite.
                      I am comparing the volumes of the economies themselves (NFA), and you are trying to compare their current incomes (GDP).

                      Quote: 123
                      Taxes are less, energy is cheaper, costs of paying employees are less, and so on. And after that, you are not able to understand that the products will be cheaper? Do you know exactly the meaning of the word economy?

                      This nonsense I will not even comment.

                      Quote: 123
                      How, then, can the deficit budget be estimated? Those who do not know how to "make ends meet" collect debts for some time and inevitably "go down the drain."

                      This is in the narrow-minded concept. In fact, the budget MUST be slightly deficient. Within reasonable limits, of course.
                      And public debt, this is also a normal thing. Within reasonable limits.

                      Quote: 123
                      I’m afraid to accept this point of view, I’ll have to plunge into a condition similar to yours. Share the recipe for what you smoke?

                      Even smoking will not help you.
                      Compare the size of funds with the external debts of state corporations and strategic companies. Very surprised.

                      Quote: 123
                      First, they valued their assets themselves.

                      And again, I use German data.

                      Quote: 123
                      They mortgaged all their property and live on credit.

                      God, what ignorance. With your understanding of the economy, you need to trade potatoes in the market.

                      Quote: 123
                      They are starving and the only thing that holds creditors back is the army. As soon as there is no money for the army, they are kayuk. Tear like a tazik heating pad.

                      And again, the net worth of the United States (assets minus liabilities) in 2018 amounted to $ 68.994,2 billion. This is about a third of all the wealth accumulated on planet Earth at that moment.
                      For comparison, at the same time, China "cost" $ 17.069,6 billion, and Russia $ 694,6 billion.
                      And yet, at the same time, net worth:
                      Microsoft - 905 billion dollars
                      Apple - 896 billion dollars
                      Amazon.com - $ 875 billion
                      Alphabet - $ 817 billion
                      Berkshire Hathaway - $ 494 billion
                      Facebook - $ 476 billion
                      These are the most expensive companies in the world. And these are all American companies if you are not in the know. Only these 6 most expensive companies in the world were worth more than all of France with all its giblets ($ 4.244,2 billion), i.e. more than the 6th world economy.

                      Quote: 123
                      Russia threw off these candy wrappers even earlier. The shop closes.

                      Economically, Russia on a global scale is no one to call her. 0,341% of the global level. Nobody even noticed Russia's "maneuvers".

                      Quote: 123
                      the principle of "go and buy what you need" does not work.

                      Works great in adequate countries.

                      Quote: 123
                      If everything is so simple and wonderful, why shouldn't the Americans buy the S-400 from us?

                      Why do they need the S-400? Who told you that the S-400 is a good weapon system? Have you heard on TV?

                      Quote: 123
                      Russia is the second-largest producer in the world, and this is without the administrative restrictions and pressure measures that the Americans are using.

                      You in vain confuse the shipment of weapons (and not only weapons) for various surrogate obligations with its sale. These are completely different things.
                      Surrogate obligations are most often not performed at all by the recipients of these weapons (debts are then written off). And if they are executed, then at a great discount.
                      But records are kept on contract numbers, of course. Only these numbers are filkin letters.

                      Quote: 123
                      What verbiage is this? All prices are in rubles.

                      This is verbiage, to pretend that if something is in rubles, then you can not count in dollars. And the statement is that if something is in rubles, then it is cheaper, it is generally ridiculous.
                      1. 123 Offline 123
                        123 (123) 7 December 2019 18: 14
                        +2
                        I'm sorry generously hi missed, left unanswered.

                        In fact, everything is exactly the opposite. I am comparing the volumes of the economies themselves (NFA), and you are trying to compare their current incomes (GDP).

                        And why are you comparing them? belay There are incomes, on the basis of this, expenses are planned, with a surplus. Wanted - spent on building ships. Everything is elementary. What does the volume of the economy have to do with it?request

                        Taxes are less, energy is cheaper, costs of paying employees are less, and so on. And after that, you are not able to understand that the products will be cheaper? Do you know exactly the meaning of the word economy?
                        This nonsense I will not even comment.

                        Well, if this is nonsense for you, then what can you talk about? fool

                        Compare the size of funds with the external debts of state corporations and strategic companies. Very surprised.

                        Compared, not surprised. What exactly doesn’t suit you?

                        First, they themselves valued their assets.
                        And again, I use German data.

                        Where did the Germans get the data? They took it from them. Provide complete data, then we will discuss with a link, and so the conversation is about nothing.

                        And again, the net worth of the United States (assets minus liabilities) in 2018 amounted to $ 68.994,2 billion. This is about a third of all the wealth accumulated on planet Earth at that moment.
                        For comparison, at the same time, China "cost" $ 17.069,6 billion, and Russia $ 694,6 billion.
                        And yet, at the same time, net worth:
                        Microsoft - 905 billion dollars
                        Apple - 896 billion dollars
                        Amazon.com - $ 875 billion
                        Alphabet - $ 817 billion
                        Berkshire Hathaway - $ 494 billion
                        Facebook - $ 476 billion
                        These are the most expensive companies in the world. And these are all American companies if you are not in the know. Only these 6 most expensive companies in the world were worth more than all of France with all its giblets ($ 4.244,2 billion), i.e. more than the 6th world economy.

                        Firstly, these data are overstated, they evaluate themselves. If you are fat and dumb, but mom and dad work at school and give high marks, this does not mean that going out into the street you will run fast and count well. And you can show your diary with fives as much as you like, it will not help in any way. request Second, companies need to make money, generate profits, and not just be "highly rated." Even if your company is valued dearly, what's the point if it is not profitable? Like Viber. By the way, is the list selective? Have the Chinese been removed? If you look at income, the picture is somewhat different, here is the ranking by revenue.

                        The largest companies in the world - 2019 (in billion dollars):
                        1. Walmart (USA, retail) - 514,405
                        2. Sinopec Groupe (PRC, petrochemical industry) - 414,649
                        3. Royal Dutch Shell (Netherlands - Great Britain, oil and gas sector) - 396,556
                        4. China National Petroleum (China, oil and gas sector) - 392,976
                        5. State Grid (PRC, electric power industry) - 387,056
                        6. Saudi Aramco (Saudi Arabia, oil and gas sector) - 355,905
                        7. BP (Great Britain, oil and gas sector) - 303,738
                        8. Exxon Mobile (USA, oil and gas sector) - 290,212
                        9. Volkswagen (Germany, automotive) - 278,341
                        10. Toyota Motor (Japan, automotive) - 272,612

                        The picture is somewhat different, don’t you? smile

                        Economically, Russia on a global scale is no one to call her. 0,341% of the global level. Nobody even noticed Russia's "maneuvers".

                        And why then is she so much attention? recourse Any sanctions, bases are being pulled to the border, worried about missiles and ships? They say that we appoint presidents in the USA. lol This once again confirms the complete inconsistency of the "valuation" system. You can get together with your colleagues at home and repeat as much as you like - "we are the coolest, we are the strongest, we have more money", but when you go outside, you will understand that this is, to put it mildly, not so. laughing

                        the principle of "go and buy what you need" does not work.
                        Works great in adequate countries.

                        We have too different understanding of "adequacy", your tongue will wear off your shoes.

                        Why do they need the S-400? Who told you that the S-400 is a good weapon system? Have you heard on TV?

                        Why did you decide that it was bad? China and Turkey do not complain, India is waiting and she spat on whining because of a puddle. Take, despite the pressure. And what is the imposed Patriot, ask the Saudis, they say, they are attached to the queue for the S-400. So, truth is learned by comparison.

                        You in vain confuse the shipment of weapons (and not only weapons) for various surrogate obligations with its sale. These are completely different things.
                        Surrogate obligations are most often not performed at all by the recipients of these weapons (debts are then written off). And if they are executed, then at a great discount.
                        But records are kept on contract numbers, of course. Only these numbers are filkin letters.

                        Do you apply the same criteria to the supply of weapons from the USA to Israel or Egypt? Or faith does not allow holy encroachment? lol In general, do an analysis, separate, so to speak, the grain from the chaff and then discuss, and this is the reasoning of the student, and even the second year.

                        This is verbiage, to pretend that if something is in rubles, then you can not count in dollars. And the statement is that if something is in rubles, then it is cheaper, it is generally ridiculous.

                        Firstly, it is not necessary to convert everything to dollars. If we return to the ships under construction, all expenses in rubles, purchase of components, wages, electricity, etc. Why is it all converted into dollars? request Ships are not built to assess the cost, but to put in place "presumptuous bookkeepers." It is a shame not to understand such elementary things. repeat Secondly, you can count as much as you like in dollars, in real or tugriks. Electricity here is still cheaper than in the US, you can calculate for yourself. And so in all respects. And who should be in order not to understand that we can produce much more products with comparable amounts in dollars? fool So, laughter for no reason, a sign .. you yourself know what. sad
      2. Bitter Offline Bitter
        Bitter (Gleb) 1 December 2019 21: 39
        +2
        The desire to jump above his head brought the USSR to collapse.

        The USSR was driven to collapse by the desire of a certain group of people to "pick a trifle in their pockets." And very successful.

        The same desire and Russia will not bring anything good.

        Again, the same people, in profile, want to take this very "tricky little thing" out of the country, "invest" there, protect and get a profit, again right there in the pocket. Nothing personal just business. good
        1. Ravshan Offline Ravshan
          Ravshan (Jamsut) 1 December 2019 22: 25
          -4
          Quote: Bitter
          The USSR was driven to collapse by the desire of a certain group of people to "pick a trifle in their pockets." And very successful.

          Unviable sooner or later always dies. Regardless of the desire of individuals or groups of people.
          1. Bitter Offline Bitter
            Bitter (Gleb) 1 December 2019 22: 28
            +2
            Tell the Chinese. good
            1. Ravshan Offline Ravshan
              Ravshan (Jamsut) 1 December 2019 22: 34
              -3
              Quote: Bitter
              Tell the Chinese

              I will not forget. What for?
              1. Bitter Offline Bitter
                Bitter (Gleb) 2 December 2019 02: 15
                +2
                Well, what would they know that they are dying there. laughing wassat
                1. Ravshan Offline Ravshan
                  Ravshan (Jamsut) 2 December 2019 09: 47
                  -2
                  Quote: Bitter
                  ... so that they knew that they were dying there.

                  They already know, do not hesitate.
                  And in general, stop associating modern China with socialism. He has not been there since Dan. Such elementary things should be known.
                  1. Bitter Offline Bitter
                    Bitter (Gleb) 2 December 2019 22: 34
                    +2
                    stop associating modern China with socialism. He's not there...

                    Do not wishful thinking, everything is there.
                    The main thing is that government agencies continue to WORK for the benefit of the people (and not in their own pockets) and their state (and not for their uncle), and what it is called ... socialism, communism, or something else - it’s a drum.
                    And in general, we moved away from the topic.
                    1. Ravshan Offline Ravshan
                      Ravshan (Jamsut) 3 December 2019 17: 00
                      -5
                      Quote: Bitter
                      Do not wishful thinking, everything is there.

                      Yeah. Only in your imagination.

                      Quote: Bitter
                      The main thing is that government agencies continue to WORK for the benefit of the people (and not in their own pockets) and their state (and not for their uncle), and what it is called ... socialism, communism, or something else - it’s a drum.

                      If for the benefit of the population, then you are in capitalism.
                      Because feudalism and the slave system (in the USSR its theocratic variation was called "Soviet socialism") do not do this. They have completely different priorities.
                      1. Bitter Offline Bitter
                        Bitter (Gleb) 3 December 2019 21: 05
                        +1
                        for the benefit of the population ....

                        What you write is foldable, market-friendly and probably well paid. People among the team leaders are different, they are educated and competent, but not the fact that they are smart. Not everything that your capitalist foreman Lenya has told you is true.
                        Be healthy. hi
                      2. Ravshan Offline Ravshan
                        Ravshan (Jamsut) 3 December 2019 23: 45
                        -5
                        Quote: Bitter
                        What you write is foldable, market-friendly and probably well paid.

                        Favorite mantra of Soviet citizens about "paid".
                        They simply cannot believe that there are decent people in the world. They judge everyone by themselves.
                      3. plabu Offline plabu
                        plabu 4 December 2019 06: 56
                        +2
                        Well, you write a lot about something, completely NOT representing the essence of the process or phenomenon hi
                        And purely by chance your "decent people" begin to receive grants, get invited to internships, study, etc., all this is purely accidental and has nothing to do with money - and "we kind of believe you" hi
                      4. Ravshan Offline Ravshan
                        Ravshan (Jamsut) 4 December 2019 10: 58
                        -5
                        Quote: 321
                        Well, you write a lot about something, completely NOT representing the essence of the process or phenomenon

                        I do not have your habits.
                        If you do not understand something written, it means that you simply have not yet grown up to it.
                      5. plabu Offline plabu
                        plabu 4 December 2019 13: 23
                        +3
                        You can consider anything, dreaming is not forbidden to anyone, but what really is - can be seen from your "creativity", and look for your habits - ... well, taking into account the rules, let's write it like this - you supply false information, just like you breathe, but when did it bother you, right? It is familiar, you are far from the first in such "creativity", it is a pity that you are not the last ...
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                      7. plabu Offline plabu
                        plabu 4 December 2019 13: 58
                        +1
                        Now I’ll drop everything and I’ll tell you everything right here - who, where, what, when ...
                        Your colleague in hobbies - in other words, Russophobia, a certain Sake, also here tried to put pressure on his "achievements", he quickly calmed down, so the same fate awaits you - it doesn't matter to me your "expert opinions and statements", your statements, opinions, etc. - NOT represent almost no interest from the point of view of obtaining information, you have no knowledge ...
                        And as for the expert - unlike you, in some areas, yes, the expert, and your opinion on these topics is not interesting to me ...
                        He was going to fight with corporations. tongue laughing hi
  • bear040 Offline bear040
    bear040 8 December 2019 13: 26
    +3
    The USSR fed and armed all sorts of Angola and Mongolia, and was torn by this, and not by the costs of the USSR army ...
  • gorenina91 Offline gorenina91
    gorenina91 (Irina) 30 November 2019 22: 09
    -2
    The creation of the military base of the Russian Federation in the Indian Ocean was called a priority

    - And where ... - in the Indian Ocean ??? - It sounds too general ... - What if she was captured ... by Somali pirates ... -Hahah ...
    - This will be the number ... - I have to redeem ...
    - This is how many piastres blacks will have to lay out ...
    1. Bitter Offline Bitter
      Bitter (Gleb) 2 December 2019 02: 21
      +1
      Therefore, it was necessary to forgive the old debts to these pirates and pour new piastres.
      Well, if some will be naughty, then well ... it's brotherly, it will be necessary to build some kind of nishtyak so that there is somewhere to have fun.