“This is torture”: Butina spoke about an American prison

During an interview with the American television and radio company CBS, Maria Butina talked about the conditions of detention in an American prison and what helped her to survive there.




The interview was recorded during Butina's stay in an American prison, which is noticeable in the prison clothes worn by a Russian woman, but was broadcast only in November 2019.

Maria Butina called the terrible conditions in which she was kept in an American prison terrible.

The Russian woman noted that it is abnormal when a person has to spend most of the day being locked up alone in a cell.

According to her, the length of stay in the "loner" sometimes reached 23 hours. There she came to the understanding that faith in God is the only guideline that we should have in life.

She also spoke about the fact that faith in God, prayer and reading books, which could be ordered in the prison library, helped her to endure these harsh conditions.

Maria Butina was detained in the United States in July 2018, and as a result of a transaction with the investigation, she was sentenced to 18 months with further deportation outside the United States.

The Russian woman had to plead guilty to "conspiracy to work as a foreign agent," because otherwise she would face a long prison term.
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  1. SERGEY SERGEEVICS 4 November 2019 12: 36
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    Of course, it’s all sad when our citizens are sent to prisons in other countries because we are RUSSIAN! Why was there to go? If she lived well with us. It is time to really begin to assess the situation and not wait for the paradise coast in other countries. We have our own country and we must live in it, and not run to other countries and not seek our happiness from them, anyway it is not there and never will be. It’s good that everything turned out well for her.
    1. Shelest2000 Offline
      Shelest2000 4 November 2019 14: 00
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      She worked with the US National Rifle Association. Those. adopted the experience of promoting civilian weapons in Russia. Headed (I don’t know how now) the Russian movement “Right to Arms” - an all-Russian human rights organization that unites owners of civilian weapons and people interested in improving the regulatory framework for weapons and self-defense.
      1. SERGEY SERGEEVICS 4 November 2019 14: 13
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        Now this experience will be remembered for a long time and will serve as an example for others.
        1. Shelest2000 Offline
          Shelest2000 4 November 2019 14: 16
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          An example of what?
          1. SERGEY SERGEEVICS 4 November 2019 14: 22
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            Less need to go to minke whales and especially learn from them. What experience can they learn from us if we don’t have, and most likely, there will be no civil servants ’COP.
            1. Shelest2000 Offline
              Shelest2000 4 November 2019 15: 28
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              Only refuses someone else's experience. And it is precisely from the amers that one can take a lot of things that would not hurt us either. However ... The current Kremlin power takes over only negative aspects. What we see.
              1. SERGEY SERGEEVICS 4 November 2019 15: 50
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                And what can be taken from them if they themselves took experience from others, and first of all, from us.
                1. Shelest2000 Offline
                  Shelest2000 4 November 2019 15: 54
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                  I will not say anything. Live in your little world with bast shoes and carts, beards and caftans, "getting up from your knees" and the leader - a multi-way driver. To teach some is only to spoil your karma (you will still catch some muck ...).
                  1. SERGEY SERGEEVICS 4 November 2019 16: 04
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                    I will keep silent.

                    You’ll look better from the outside.

                    Live in your little world with bast shoes and carts, beards and caftans, "getting up from your knees" and a multi-way leader.

                    In which particular world? Where I live, we don’t have such bast shoes, let alone carts. Probably write about your country, Yes! We have what we have




                    To teach some - only spoil your karma (you will still catch some muck ...)

                    You have long been infected with this filth from the West. How to destroy and destroy your country and homeland.
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                    2. Arkharov Offline
                      Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 4 November 2019 17: 35
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                      To go nuts !!!! That you are boasting of an enemy Bentley? !!! Why not post this photo? You be true to yourself to the end.

                      1. SERGEY SERGEEVICS 4 November 2019 17: 56
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                        That you are boasting of an enemy Bentley? !!!

                        No, which roads they drive, they show!

                        Why not post this photo?

                        Because there are none on the roads. The photo you published is from Western countries, most likely from Spain, the facade of their style house.
                      2. Arkharov Offline
                        Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 4 November 2019 18: 32
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                        Something today all evening I laugh, sincerely thank you, believe me, I sincerely say. The style may be Spanish, but where could such a miracle come from ?! In general, I looked, it turns out to be a cool car:

                        This “Look” one in the style of Rat Look was played in the main lottery of ZhiFest 2017. The main idea of ​​the project is a contrasting appearance and a radical static understatement. Here is the engine from the VAZ-2105, global shaving of the engine compartment, and the project flaunts on rare Weds Furalco Racing Forg disks.

                        https://ourmotorhome.ru/blog/43470579056/Kogda-%C2%ABZHiguli%C2%BB-mogut-byit-krutyimi-(krasivyie-foto)

                        And this bunch of mansions that you posted for some reason, since you are such a connoisseur of Western architecture, in what style are made?
                      3. SERGEY SERGEEVICS 5 November 2019 08: 40
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                        The style may be Spanish, but where could such a miracle come from ?!

                        They were sold all over Europe, if you do not know. yes Turn logic on and think of examples at least occasionally.

                        Something today all evening laughing.

                        Very often I laugh at people like you when you start whining, how bad things are with us. And while still continuing to live in Russia.
                      4. Pishenkov Offline
                        Pishenkov (Alexey) 5 November 2019 12: 20
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                        ... despite the fact that your interlocutor regularly carries nonsense, here I can intercede for him on the issue of Lada wink - they really are found throughout at least Europe - from Norway and Britain to Spain and Greece. Moreover, they are worth decent money now. yes 2103 or 2106 in decent form cost the same as a 5-year-old Volkswagen Golf or any other foreign car of the middle class and a similar age, that is, a pretty decent car. But Soviet-made Niva cars are generally worth its weight in gold ... There is now even a whole business - these cars are imported to Western Europe from the Baltic countries or Eastern Europe, that is, where duty-free ... It turns out that the USSR auto industry is quoted in the West . Russian cars are no longer so valued ... laughing
                      5. Arkharov Offline
                        Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 5 November 2019 17: 33
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                        It is quite possible and appreciated, but it is unlikely that such a model could have traveled along their roads. I can poorly imagine it near the "Spanish mansion". But it seems to me, with all the best possible service there, it is unlikely that the USSR auto assembly is of practical value there now. Maybe something for lovers, and more is already collectible. Years take their toll, and this is at least 30 years old. Do you see a lot of the Lada of the Soviet assembly with us, in particular the Niv (in principle, they can be identified with sufficient accuracy in appearance)?
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                        Pishenkov (Alexey) 5 November 2019 20: 04
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                        ... such a model, this is already a real exclusive for the tuning show, and the European technical inspection, of course, simply will not pass in order to appear on the road in this form. smile
                        Yes, of course, in a purely practical daily life such cars are already found a little, but there are also. Now they really are already resuscitating and they have a price as a retro rarity. But with all this, many people start and drive these cars on a regular basis. True, this applies not only to the Lada, but in general to cars of 70 - 90 years. Now in Europe this is a fairly new and developing trend, I even wanted to write an article about it ... maybe I’ll write it if there is time and desire ... The fact is that the further, the more people, excluding me, wink cars are starting to annoy, which are more computers on wheels than a car. They are practically not repairable, completely dependent on branded services, incomprehensible, unreliable and vulnerable due to the abundance of electronics, they have a lot of unnecessary systems that, at least in Europe, have become impossible to turn off, but at the same time it is necessary for them and for their maintenance pay, etc. etc. At the same time, for example, many cars of the mid-80s without all this "superfluous" already have all the necessary parameters for a comfortable ride, including automatic transmission, air conditioning, heating, airbags, etc., they drive no worse than new ones, they insure for much less money and technical inspections take place in a different way - without different idiotic Euro 5, 6, 7 and more ... I'm not talking about the real pleasure of driving a "live" car ... wink
                2. Shelest2000 Offline
                  Shelest2000 6 November 2019 18: 14
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                  But messing around with someone else’s is not necessary. Boo-ha-ha ... A real "patriot," boasting the successes of other countries. Accidentally not Peskov last name? A true patriot of Russia, it’s only hard for him poor fellow ... Yes, and even the son of a felon, who was sitting in an English prison for beating a teenager and robbing ...

                3. SERGEY SERGEEVICS 6 November 2019 19: 21
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                  Calm down and don't be nervous, and write in a normal way. What is all this written to?

                  But messing around with someone else’s is not necessary. Boo-ha-ha ...

                  What is it all about?
            2. 123 Offline
              123 (123) 7 November 2019 22: 31
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              Why not post this photo? You be true to yourself to the end.

              You are right, it was possible to post this photo. smile Take a closer look .... She is only at first inattentive look so unpretentious. In fact

              This “Look” one in the style of Rat Look was played in the main lottery of ZhiFest 2017. The main idea of ​​the project is a contrasting appearance and a radical static understatement. Here is the engine from the VAZ-2105, global shaving of the engine compartment, and the project flaunts on rare Weds Furalco Racing Forg disks.

              lol
            3. Arkharov Offline
              Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 7 November 2019 23: 45
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              And what do you repeat what I already wrote? Would you come up with something yourself?
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          Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 4 November 2019 20: 12
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          Since you have so stupidly framed, I can’t deny myself the pleasure of continuing my little investigation. It’s interesting in which such a western country, judging by the number of the car, you live if this particular Bentley (which you apparently want to present as evidence of the growing well-being of the Russian people, is driving along your street (which painfully resembles the street of a European country), times you write: “No, which roads do they show!”)? Actually, this photo was taken from the resource To The Manner Born: June 2012, and I'm afraid it has nothing to do with Russian reality. But the houses that you present as: "Where I live, .." were found as: "Mansions on Rublevka." Yes, we live, judging by these houses in Russia, not bad, here you were especially convincing. But where do you really live in Europe, on Rublevka, or in some conditional Mukh-nsk? If you're lying, get ready somehow more thoroughly, not all of us are shell-shocked by the TV, and the Internet can still be used without restrictions.
          1. SERGEY SERGEEVICS 5 November 2019 08: 46
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            It’s interesting in which such a western country, judging by the number of the car, you live if this particular Bentley (which you apparently want to present as evidence of the growing well-being of the Russian people, is driving along your street (which painfully resembles the street of a European country), times you write: “No, which roads do they show!”)?

            Include logic at least occasionally, about the existence of an example, you probably are not in the know.
          2. 123 Offline
            123 (123) 7 November 2019 22: 39
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            Since you have so stupidly framed, I can’t deny myself the pleasure of continuing my little investigation.

            I can say the same about you. Hammer your picture in a search on Google. laughing And then investigate, Poirot.

            If you're lying, get ready somehow more thoroughly, not all of us are shell-shocked by the TV, and the Internet can still be used without restrictions.
          3. Arkharov Offline
            Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 7 November 2019 23: 47
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            Yes, I wrote about this picture myself, and for some reason do you ape yourself? And what do you really like about your fellow’s wonderful story of reason and belief with convincing evidence of the prohibitively high standard of living of the Russians around him? If one rests, despite common sense, then to the end?
          4. 123 Offline
            123 (123) 8 November 2019 08: 53
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            Yes, I wrote about this picture myself, and for some reason do you ape yourself? And what, did you really like the wonderful story of your brother by reason and belief with convincing evidence of the prohibitively high standard of living of the Russians around him? If one rests, despite common sense, then to the end?

            No, I didn’t like the story at all. After all, you yourself perfectly understand that he simply depicted the exact opposite and used photos from the Internet for this. It terribly outraged you, but you liked the opposite statement.

            Live in your little world with bast shoes and carts, beards and caftans, "getting up from your knees" and the leader - a multi-way driver.

            Is this your brother in mind? belay I do not presume to say that we all ride a Bentley, but I haven’t met people in carts and bast shoes. I am for objectivity. You rushed to the support of this subject, ran into the return, that's all. repeat
          5. Arkharov Offline
            Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 8 November 2019 09: 55
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            Do not write nonsense, where I supported:

            Live in your little world with bast shoes and carts, beards and caftans ...

            Show me where I mentioned this? Let's specifically? Waiting for?
          6. 123 Offline
            123 (123) 8 November 2019 09: 58
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            Do not write nonsense, where I supported:

            Live in your little world with bast shoes and carts, beards and caftans ...

            Show me where I mentioned this? Let's specifically? Waiting for?

            Did I say that you said that? belay Re-read the previous comment again. There was a discussion, you joined, thereby supporting one of the parties. About "bast shoes and carts" I do not find any objections. request
          7. Arkharov Offline
            Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 8 November 2019 10: 07
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            I do not write such primitive things. Cite where I wrote about the "bast shoes" and do not go away from a specific question. Now you change your shoes, and you sew to me, which I did not object? But at least 140 million people, the entire population of the Russian Federation, didn’t object, something I don’t see their comments with objections? I look, this is your whole essence.
          8. 123 Offline
            123 (123) 8 November 2019 10: 18
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            I do not write such primitive things. Cite where I wrote about the "bast shoes" and do not go away from a specific question.

            - try to reread the syllables again.

            Live in your little world with bast shoes and carts, beards and caftans, "getting up from your knees" and the leader - a multi-way driver. Is this your brother in mind?

            Why did you decide that I ascribe to you this statement?

            Now you change your shoes, and you sew to me, which I did not object?

            What does it have to change shoes for?

            There was a discussion, you joined, thereby supporting one of the parties.

            Have I joined the opposite side? What's wrong? You do not support the point of view "about bast shoes and carts"?

            But at least 140 million people, the entire population of the Russian Federation, didn’t object, something I don’t see their comments with objections?

            With all due respect to the "Reporter", I'm afraid you overestimate the popularity of this resource.
          9. Arkharov Offline
            Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 8 November 2019 10: 21
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            Bye. The discussion with you is absolutely uninteresting and insignificant on your part.
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            123 (123) 8 November 2019 10: 41
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            Bye. The discussion with you is absolutely uninteresting and insignificant on your part.

            Bye. I can’t say the same about you that I learned a lot of interesting or useful things.
  • SERGEY SERGEEVICS 4 November 2019 16: 45
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    As for these words, I can explain them in detail.

    Live in your little world with bast shoes and carts, beards and caftans, "getting up from your knees" and the leader - a multi-way driver.

    Lapti is an environmentally friendly product and is very healthy for health, yes not all this chemistry to wear. negative In villages, an irreplaceable thing, much better than this chemistry. good
    The cart is also a very necessary thing (for hunting and fishing, you can always bring knots and firewood). Why once again spoil the environment with exhaust gases when you can use the cart.
    Beard and caftan - this is a traditional Russian custom. As for Ukrainians fat, for the French wine and frogs.
    "Getting up from his knees" - The main Russian people did not sit on their knees to get up from them. And we already showed this in practice when we defeated the Nazis (I brought this to you as an example). And it was always like that, we did not sit on our knees, but always stood proudly, in full growth!
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  • Pishenkov Offline
    Pishenkov (Alexey) 5 November 2019 11: 24
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    adopted experience in promoting civilian weapons

    - There are other countries in which the experience of such promotion can be adopted, in which, by the way, both the mentality and the social system are closer to the Russian Federation than in the USA, and the law on weapons is even more free and understandable than in America. Yes, and closer - the Czech Republic or Slovakia, for example. But no. The girl fumbled in the USA. And in the United States, the National Rifle Association has long been a more serious political organization than a circle on the interests of citizens who love weapons.
    But Citizen Butina came back to this very political organization. And she was involved in politics there, at least. And all these snot of the Russian media about the "innocent student" are clearly designed for doctors ... just. In the United States and other Western countries, at least hundreds of Russian citizens are imprisoned, some really by stupidity or by mistake, but something neither the media nor the Foreign Ministry are so interested in ...
  • Oleg Kalugin Offline
    Oleg Kalugin (Oleg Kalugin) 4 November 2019 19: 14
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    One hundred and one hundred agree! I do not like Russia, then live in their prison!)))
  • Sake Offline
    Sake (Sake) 6 November 2019 19: 52
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    What nonsense are you talking about ?! In the United States, a couple of millions who successfully jumped from the train into the "Bright Future" and no less "crammed" who found their new "homeland" there.
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    Sake (Sake) 24 November 2019 16: 37
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    Well, she has a shabby appearance, and such a ugly one is suitable only for elders, where they put her up. There is nothing strange that only aged uncles pecked at her! She looked frightened, because she knew that she had betrayed everyone and everything, but having gathered herself, she betrayed that ... the Russians, they say, do not give up ... She needs to be reminded that when she made a deal with the judge, she betrayed everything, what interested them, otherwise 15 years for espionage and she sang and sang a song to the end!
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    Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 4 November 2019 13: 01
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    The Russian woman noted that it is abnormal when a person has to spend most of the day being locked up alone in a cell.

    And how does she want in prison to walk in the garden? Would it be ours, which I almost never wish anyone to visit, what would she tell then? Well, a character can be sincerely desired a place in the Duma, or, together with Anya, have another crazy transfer to RENT. And you can become the “face” of the unarmia, and it seems that we also had advisers to ministers in positions corresponding to Major General at 26. I think that in general in our country exciting prospects are opening up for her.
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      Pishenkov (Alexey) 5 November 2019 11: 36
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      Good comment good exactly. I hope that not all of them are in the Russian Federation and ... d ... to also believe in this whole fairy tale about the "poor student" from the periphery ... She took a girl and went to America to study, come on .. Friends paid ... Well, at least they would not have disgraced on television with this nonsense ...
    2. Sake Offline
      Sake (Sake) 6 November 2019 19: 56
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      Well, let her be placed alone in Naryan-Mar, for example, or in Kotlas, let him try Russian bananas and chicken in the prison diet at home.
      1. 123 Offline
        123 (123) 7 November 2019 22: 45
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        Well, let her be placed alone in Naryan-Mar, for example, or in Kotlas, let him try Russian bananas and chicken in the prison diet at home.

        There are more than two million prisoners in the United States, one in four in the world is sitting there.

        I wish you plenty to eat chicken, and sit on bananas.
    3. 123 Offline
      123 (123) 7 November 2019 22: 54
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      And how does she want to go to jail in the garden?

      In ours, too, a similar thing happens, for example, a certain Razvyazkin, convicted of robbery at the ECHR, complained. The court recognized this as “inhuman treatment”, received compensation of 15 euros.

      https://pravo.ru/story/view/74533/

      Only there is a man and a robber, and here is a student girl. Where did you get so much anger?
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        Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 8 November 2019 00: 00
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        And what is the ECHR's decision on the inhuman treatment of Butina? Just about the "student girl" do not tell ....
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          123 (123) 8 November 2019 09: 02
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          And what is the ECHR's decision on the inhuman treatment of Butina? Just about the "student girl" do not tell ....

          Of course, there will not be and will not be, you know very well that the Americans did not sign this convention. The American "Gulag" does not meet European standards. Still there, people are still executed, in various ways, they are simply tortured. But since there is no ECHR decision, then this does not exist for you? Read the link, the cases are comparable.
          And about the "girl student," I'm glad I made fun, are there any sane arguments against it?
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            Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 8 November 2019 10: 00
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            There is. The whole story of this "student girl" is described in great detail. Read. Only links, as you usually ask, don’t ask me to search, I have my own affairs. If you know how to use the Internet, finding its story (not told by the CT) is not difficult.
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              123 (123) 8 November 2019 10: 05
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              There is. The whole story of this "student girl" is described in great detail. Read. Only links, as you usually ask, don’t ask me to search, I have my own affairs. If you know how to use the Internet, finding its story (not told by the CT) is not difficult.

              Just a reinforced concrete argument. no Described by whom? The Internet is full of all sorts of versions, from "it was sent personally by Putin" to "the good fairy collected nectar." What exactly do you mean? recourse
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    steelmaker 4 November 2019 13: 44
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    How Butina behaved during the arrest - Worthy of respect !! She kept herself as a self-respecting person. The country is not betrayed and not slander! But! But maybe now about the USA it is possible to speak more sharply, why pity them. Or is it "smeared" with honey? Or are you afraid to put the families of our rulers and artists under attack? You have to be honest to the end! Of course, just as Mamaev and Kokorin sat for their crimes, probably all the criminals dream of it. Therefore, crimes are easy to go. Russia needs to learn from the USA how to keep criminals!
    1. SERGEY SERGEEVICS 4 November 2019 14: 47
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      How Butina behaved during the arrest - Worthy of respect !!

      And how did she behave? request They have no other way, they can use weapons. yes

      She kept herself as a self-respecting person.

      This is the Russian soul, so many do.

      The country is not betrayed and not slander!

      There was no need to go there at all, there was no sense from this trip, only I made myself worse.

      But maybe now about the USA it is possible to speak more sharply, why pity them.

      It's time to do it, but it doesn’t bother them, so do

      Or is it "smeared" with honey?

      Yes, there is no honey there! All honey comes only with tv. But in reality it’s a soap bubble, Maria is an example of this, and many of our other citizens.

      Russia needs to learn from the USA how to keep criminals!

      smile
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      Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 4 November 2019 17: 39
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      They made laugh, what did she alienate such a worthy when arrested? It seems that nothing was heard about the “last grenade”?
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      Pishenkov (Alexey) 5 November 2019 11: 43
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      How Butina behaved during the arrest - Worthy of respect !! She kept herself as a self-respecting person. The country is not betrayed and not slander!

      - How do you know? They said on TV? Or is there information directly from the FBI? Maybe they just turned it over. Or got the necessary info and released. Nobody shows this to anyone. Like it or not, Butina failed.
      Or do you also believe in fairy tales about the "stupid student from the Russian outback" ???
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    Oleg Kalugin (Oleg Kalugin) 4 November 2019 19: 12
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    Poor Butina, ah-ah ... the whole country was singing about the poor girl Butina ... What did she do there? What did not live in the homeland? I was looking for what is better than the homeland? Well, why should I feel sorry for her, if Russia is her ... then she is not my friend.
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      Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 4 November 2019 20: 24
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      You shouldn’t do it like that, the person seemed to be at work. But, I think, I could not cope with the trust placed, it can happen to anything.
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        the person seems to have been at work.

        You, too, probably at work, work out the money? When you write all sorts of nasty things.
      2. 123 Offline
        123 (123) 7 November 2019 22: 56
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        You shouldn’t do it like that, the person seemed to be at work. But, I think, I could not cope with the trust placed, it can happen to anything.

        Your imagination seems to be sore.
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          Arkharov (Grigory Arkharov) 8 November 2019 00: 03
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          Do you even live in an information vacuum, if, of course, we assume that Soloviev and RT do not count?
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            123 (123) 8 November 2019 09: 12
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            Do you even live in an information vacuum, if, of course, we assume that Soloviev and RT do not count?

            Suggest CNN a look?

  • Sergey Latyshev Offline
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 6 November 2019 09: 24
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    And she will write, how many people were there in one cell? When not alone? How many tuberculosis patients?
    Look how thin!

    We have written / written ... Maybe she had a radio and was alone? Books? TV? Bed with linen ???
    It would be interesting about her detention in prison in more detail ....
  • Sake Offline
    Sake (Sake) 6 November 2019 19: 47
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    Butina, of course, is far from the radio operator Kat, upon arriving in the United States, at parties and in interviews, she praised the United States with enthusiasm, and when she was deciphered, bent and she was clearly given a decent period, she made a deal with justice (not the Basmanny court in particular) , and this implies only the truth, otherwise a short process and goodbye to youth, and ... and she sang and sang a song, to the end, passed all, appearances, passwords, investors and so on. And no one gave a broken penny for her, even influential cohabitants, or how can you call these old men whom she used in bed when contacting the center? Therefore, her falsehood that the Russians supposedly did not give up was written on her face, she lied! For the curious, there are videos on the network that have not yet been deleted. Of course, the jail is not the best place, but it arrived well-fed, so well-fed, before, it was so sporty before the jail ... judging by the photo.
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      ... so plump ...

      How is Savchenko after a month of hunger strike?