Kedmi explained why Russia should have taken Mariupol in the 2014 year

October 5 2019 18

Israeli expert Yakov Kedmi, who has long been firmly established as an analyst on Russian television shows, expressed dissatisfaction with the fact that in 2014 Russia did not join Mariupol and Berdyansk.

In his opinion, if it were not for the “stupid and stupid decision” (the decision of the Russian leadership is implied) regarding Mariupol and Berdyansk, now Russia would not have had problems in the Kerch Strait.

Arguing in this way about the events of 2014, one can go very far.

If in order to not have any problems with the Strait of Kerch, it was worth joining Mariupol and Berdyansk, then maybe Kherson should also be added at once. To have no problems with water for the Crimea.

And why, in this case, not to join Odessa and Nikolaev, so as not to have problems with the calls of the American fleet and the annual exercises of Ukraine and NATO in the Black Sea?

In this case, it was worth picking up Kharkov, Dnepropetrovsk and Zaporozhye. Better yet, immediately join the whole of Ukraine.

For some reason, the Israeli expert is silent that the accession of each additional Ukrainian territory to Russia would lead to an increase in the problems that she would receive along with these territories.

But in the end, everything would end in a full-scale war, which, in fact, was sought by the collective West, or the emergence of a region in Russia, similar to Chechnya in the early 2000s, only ten times more.

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Nick

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5 October 2019 10: 09

The author made the conclusions correctly. The West sought to drag Russia into the conflict, burdening it with overwhelming costs of maintaining new regions and military spending.
steelmaker

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5 October 2019 10: 18

Kedmi thinks correctly, like a statesman. If Putin had gone to the end, then there would not have been May 2 in Odessa, there would have been no Donbass, no matter how many people would have survived. If the tanks had not been stopped at Tbilisi, Georgia would have been a friendly state to us now. And if a state politician is afraid to take responsibility for himself and answer to the end, then maybe then it is not worth holding a state position! Moreover, everything that Kedmi says could have been done by someone else's hands, but loyal to RUSSIA. The author of the article worries about the problems received with the territories, and I worry about the lives of people. Everyone wants to occupy high positions, receive benefits, privileges, high salaries, and when the time comes, pressing the "red button" - so there will be problems with the territories !!!!
1. Oleg Kalugin
  
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  6 October 2019 12: 53
  
  Kedmi is a state politician. Question: What country is he a state. politician? Excuse me, but do not tell me why he was a non-grant person in Russia for a long time?
2. yuriy55
  
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  7 October 2019 04: 58
  
  Quote: steel maker
  And if a state politician is afraid to the end of the responsibility to accept and answer, so maybe then you should not hold a state post!
  
  So, you read the comments and you find the exact and true statement. Well done!
  And the minuses show how many "kind kremlebots" gathered on the site. And most importantly, what are the weighty arguments:
  
  Quote: boriz
  Putin clearly had his own planscoming from a real situation. If someone forgot, then he is in 2014. asked residents of Donbass not to hold a referendum on independence and accession to the Russian Federation.
  
  And you always want to ask, and whose interests does our state-repression apparatus protect? Who became BETTER in a country of wretched culture, education, health care, the economy, road construction, BUT !!! increased corruption, embezzlement, violation of the rule of law and squandering of natural resources?
  When a referendum was held in Crimea, they were not very "embarrassed" and listened to the views of the West. And here, in the LDNR, they were confused ... It's much easier to hand out Russian passports and send humanitarian convoys (at what expense ??? under what international law, for that matter ???), based on some "plans ...
  And these "their" plans somehow fit in with constitutional (even) provisions, guarantees to Russian citizens and social policy within the country? Or, in the person of an international partner, Russia should look respectable - like Putin, and in domestic politics should be content with the dwarf awkward in the form of Medvedev? Why do we Russians need these extremes? What is the good purpose of such "their" plans?
  Cedmi is not pleasing to them. Yes, Kedmi is a much bigger Russian than the same Medvedevs, Grefs, Chubais, Ivanovs, Matvienko, Sechins, Millers and other figures who, unlike politeness, cost the country very, well, very ~~lot~~ expensive...
  Your Putin has some amazing courage and enviable zeal for the public. But the country whose president he was elected (I don’t even know if it’s the last time) requires guarantors of a different profile. Guarantors who are not afraid to put two or three friends not in the government, but on the bunks; guarantors that guarantee the fulfillment of their own words not at Valdai forums and not within the framework of meetings of leaders of countries, but in practice (at least their own), without manipulating phrases, like a clown in the arena; guarantors capable of calling enemies of the country - enemies, and not partners. And then there is a negative assumption about whose partner in fact he is and whose and what the guarantor has been appointed.
BoBot Robot - Free Thinking Machine

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5 October 2019 11: 07

Even if they themselves ask, they will beg, they will lie on their feet, anyway we will say - for poor people NO!
boriz

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5 October 2019 11: 38

It's good that our president is not Kedmi and not a "steel maker".
Putin clearly had his own plans, starting from the real situation. If someone forgot, then he is in 2014. asked residents of Donbass not to hold a referendum on independence and accession to the Russian Federation. They spent, wanted the best. And then at least six months no one wanted to fight, they could not recruit people in the People’s Police. But this is the most pro-Russian region of Ukraine. And if we sent troops to the territory of Ukraine, and even further to the Donetsk and Lugansk regions, we would be in a position to all. And the Ukrainians would sit on the priest evenly and demand to restore what they plundered and stupidly destroyed, what the whole great country created for them 70 years. And at the same time habitually scolded drunk lazy Muscovites.
Fuck them. And fuck Kedmi, let him give advice to Netanyahu. Do they have their own problems? What is he doing on our TV anyway? There are no "former" intelligence officers. His secret service provided the transit of Jews from the USSR to Israel in order to create a strong military-industrial complex. And they did it. And now he is also engaged in the transit of Jews, only in the other direction, it got hot there. Do we need such neighbors? They have already shown themselves enough over the past 70 years.
And Russia owes nothing to anyone. Only to their citizens. But this is just the problem.
steelmaker

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5 October 2019 16: 25

To live with dignity - one must speak correctly and boldly, how to chop wood ...

... To please and humiliate oneself is not to be friends,
it is to sacrifice oneself.
They don’t respect those, they don’t take care of them,
for those helpful there will be a path like a whip.
Do everything honestly, say it right
at first it will be hard, but the result is a reward.
Sapsan136

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5 October 2019 18: 32

It was necessary in 2014 to bring in and take control of all the lands of the Russian Federation temporarily occupied by Ukraine, and not look back at what they would say in Washington .... They will chat and buy bainki ... And we have sanctions anyway ...
Valentine

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6 October 2019 07: 44

Mariupol is a large industrial city of Ukraine, where the interests of many oligarchs of Russia and Ukraine - Medvedchuk, Deribasks, Akhmetovs, etc. collided, but at the request of these "workers" it was not taken by the militias, and by that time there were already Ukrainian troops too that was not.
1. Oleg Kalugin
  
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  6 October 2019 12: 51
  
  You forgot another surname, namely, the curator of the project of Ukraine in the Kremlin and its main ideologist at that time, Vladislav Surkov. It was rumored that his son had his share in some pipe factory in Mariupol.
Oleg Kalugin

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6 October 2019 12: 48

You just have to always remember who Kedmi is.
His compatriots in the Russian Federation present us with: an expert, a public figure, a military-political observer, a patriot of Russia ...
But in fact, this is a high-ranking intelligence officer, the former head of one of the most serious and secret intelligence services in Israel, namely the former head of the Israeli special service "Nativ". At one time he was marked by hatred of the USSR and Russia. Who did everything possible for the collapse of the Soviet Union ... Now he complains that the USSR collapsed ... Hypocrite. A Zionist, and as you know, any Zionist a priori hates Stalin. Have you heard how the Zionist Kedmi praises Joseph Vissarionovich !?
For a long time Kedmi was a persona "non grata" in Russia. His visit to his former homeland was considered undesirable ...
Kedmi is a specialist in resettlement of millions of people from point "A" to point "B", which is what he did in Israel.
They say that the time has come to resettle back. He doesn’t give a damn about Russia and Russians, he has his own interest and his own people, for the Zionists recognize only their own! For some reason, I immediately recall the New Khazaria project ...
philippino lippi

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6 October 2019 15: 27

Yes! It was necessary to annex Kharkov, Kherson, Dnepropetrovsk, Odessa, Kiev, and so on! But the Kremlin got scared. It was a SCARY MISTAKE OF THE KREMLIN! BUT the Kremlin explains ALL its LOSES and CRIMINAL MISTAKES by the same thing - "LOVE OF PEACE"! Like, "WE CAN, but DO NOT WANT"! RUSSIA HAS ALREADY PAYED TEN BILLION DOLLARS for the Kremlin's "MISTAKE", and this is ONLY THE BEGINNING. UNDER COURT!
bsk_mna54

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6 October 2019 15: 47

It's just that Putin's policy is connected with the oligarchs. Take Mariupol, and this is the competition of oligarchic metallurgists, but do they need it? Therefore, Putin does not need it. The point is that all these regions are sufficient economically, but the "friendship" is stronger.
bobba94

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6 October 2019 21: 15

It's funny. The article says that the accession of additional territories to Russia has always led to additional problems. Indeed, there was a small Moscow principality, then there was the annexation of neighboring lands, and the Great Moscow princedom became, then Kazan took, Livonia, Estonia and so on, then the Urals, then Siberia, annexed the Far East, the Russian Empire appeared and indeed, there were always problems with annexation additional territories. Moral: Kedmi is right, and the author ...
Sergey Latyshev

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7 October 2019 10: 18

Kedmi honestly performs the role of a Jewish agent - provokes and pushes in the back.

And as for Mariupol, the goal is not in capture, but in problems for the Ukrainian authorities, security forces and oligarchs with small forces. They didn’t take it;

Problems and buffer areas were created, but I had to retreat from part of the territory - so, apparently, this is such a cunning plan.
1. Bitter
  
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  8 October 2019 22: 32
  
  Problems and buffer areas were created, but I had to retreat from part of the territory - so, apparently, this is such a cunning plan.
  
  Berlin, Prague, Budapest, Bucharest were the buffer. These were the "ZONES"!
  And these buffers are even incomprehensible as they are called, some reservations.
  The process is going on, about 70 years ago, Smolenskaya may also become a buffer.
  The cunning plan works.
Anchonsha

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7 October 2019 10: 36

Kedmi is wrong in this matter. If anyone remembers that period of time, then even Merkelin's threats against the city of Mariupol should be remembered by Russia. Naturally, everyone wants Mariupol to be in the DPR. But what forces would be able to protect such acquisitions from, consider, the whole of NATO? Our GDP figured out what would happen to the population of Donbass in 2014, and therefore urged not to vote on the withdrawal from Ukraine. Many were in favor, but few wanted to defend Donbass. Russia then had to send its troops to protect the population of Donbass, which the United States really wanted. And if this had happened, Russia would have been left completely alone, which would have completely isolated our country for a long time. This can now be seen in the actions of But Father, Kazakhstan, who were also afraid that Russia could do the same with their territories. But father and the main Kazakh do not care about the residents of Donbass and what they want. And if you look at the history of Ukraine after the collapse of the USSR, then it easily abandoned Russia for the sake of European values and "live (according to some residents of Donetsk) at least a little with good sewage, with benefits and European salaries, freedom from Russia", although few people understood from whence all this manna from heaven will fall on their heads. Many residents of Donbass hoped that Russia would immediately rush to defend them with troops, although many Donetsk residents had already fled to Russia. And if the troops entered, then discord between Ukrainians and Russians would be for centuries, as with the Poles (although the current situation between our countries has alienated us from peace and harmony, it is not known how much).
Mikhail Kotlyarov

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7 October 2019 17: 30

In Israel, Jews are not paid the same money as in the Russian Federation? What are you scratching about Russia? But do you want to tell when your Israel will surrender the occupied territories?