Russian frigate "Admiral Makarov" caused a stir in Greece

Russian naval sailors and marines are regular participants in various celebrations held in Greece. And the Greeks always show keen interest in them, warmth and friendliness.




As part of the events dedicated to the “Russian week on the Ionian Islands”, which are held from September 27 to October 2, the Russian frigate Admiral Makarov arrived in the Greek port of Kerkyra on the island of Corfu and immediately aroused unprecedented interest among local residents.

On the first day, during the hours allotted for inspection of the warship, more than two hundred people visited the Russian frigate, many came with their families.

At that time, the ship’s officers act as guides and guide visitors along the main deck of the ship, telling about its history and weapons on board.

The frigate Admiral Makarov was introduced into the Russian Black Sea Fleet in 2017 and is a ship of Project 11356. The main armament of the combat ship is Caliber-NK cruise missiles.

Recall that the celebrations of the “Russian Week” are held on the Ionian Islands annually and are a tribute to the great Russian admiral Fedor Ushakov, under whose command the Russian squadron expelled Napoleon from the French invaders in 1799.
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  1. Sapsan136 Offline
    Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 29 September 2019 18: 10
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    There will be a stir if the words of Rear Admiral Oleg Krivorog are true and the rocket frigate Admiral Butakov, type 11356, nevertheless goes to serve on the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation ... According to the admiral, a crew is already being formed for the frigate in Crimea ...
    1. 123 Offline
      123 (123) 29 September 2019 21: 58
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      Excuse me, but why the excitement? Butakov was not completed because of the engines paid for, but never delivered from Ukraine. Own production established, the completion of the frigate is not a supernatural task. In modern times, the delivery of one ship, fortunately, no longer seems to be an outstanding event; rather, it is becoming commonplace and habitual. Next year they promise to lay ships for the Navy for dozens. good It’s like with astronauts, before the flight - the whole event, television, the front pages of newspapers, the highest state. awards. fellow Now how? The other day, the crew flew to the ISS, who can name their names from memory?
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        Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 30 September 2019 14: 08
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        They promise a lot, GDP on promises is generous ... only things are much more mean ... The fleet renewal program is completely failed ... The fleet never received the promised, and the fleet did not receive the turbines due to the fault of Chernomyrdin, which, to the detriment of the Russian Federation, orders in Ukraine, instead of developing domestic industry ... And yet yes, the commissioning of each battle ship, not the boat, is an event for the Russian fleet ... Alas, until now ....
        1. Savigne Offline
          Savigne 30 September 2019 20: 39
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          Quote: Sapsan136
          FOR RUSSIAN Navy.

          For Russian.
          1. Sapsan136 Offline
            Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 30 September 2019 20: 45
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            For the Russian ... The Russians, too, neither Russia nor the fleet need ... they would have to obtain US citizenship and take out more from the Russian Federation to Western banks ... In Afghanistan, 64% of Pashtuns and no one doubts that they are the masters of Afghanistan. .. In the Russian Federation, 84% + 11% of Tatars (Kazan) are Russian, which have not been distinguished from the Russians for a long time, and we have had the same blood for a long time, due to the mass of mixed marriages ... We are a state-forming people, if that ... and this our fleet, and not those who hang around the squares of Moscow with the flags of the Ukraine fighting against Russia ... with passports of the United States and other foreign countries in their pockets .
            1. Savigne Offline
              Savigne 30 September 2019 23: 22
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              Quote: Sapsan136
              For Russian ...

              The Russian state was destroyed by the Bolsheviks in early January 1918.
              This is so, a little educational program on history.

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              11% of Tatars (Kazan), which have not been distinguished from the Russians for a long time ...

              Yes? But the Tatars (Bulgars) know about this?

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              We are a nation-forming nation ...

              There are no "state-forming peoples."
              You obviously do not understand what a "people" is.

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              ... and this is our fleet, and not those who hang around the squares of Moscow with the flags of the Ukraine fighting against Russia ... with passports of the United States and other foreign countries in their pockets.

              Further generally went a stream of meaningless delirium.
              1. Sapsan136 Offline
                Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 1 October 2019 00: 06
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                The state does not disappear from a change in the political system in the country; however, you, the Ukrainians, did not want this. France remained France under kings, and under emperors, and under republics, and today it is France, not Ukraine, and not Paraguay ... They know ... In Tatarstan, even in the 90s, it was not Tatars, but Caucasians who came in large numbers, Arabs and others who have nothing to do with either the Russians or the Tatars ... There are state-forming peoples ... and your Ukraine is an example, there are people, and the next attempt to create a state goes to pieces and will soon end predictably, just like your Sich Riflemen ... This is not nonsense, but the truth about how Ukrainians with US citizenship arrive sow trouble in Russia ... Recently, such people were detained at rallies in Moscow ... But you don’t need to think about Russia, without Yavlinsky there is someone to do this, and you think in your hometown in Lviv how to return Polish pigs graze ... after all, before 1939 Lviv was a Polish-Jewish city where there were a minority of Ukrainians and they were servants ... Russia could not afford to feed Tajikistan ... and when this is understood in the Kremlin, money will even appear in Russia for battleships, if there is a need for them ... In the USSR, the state provided the people with housing and coped well with it, and in the USA even today the majority do not own real estate, and live like half-bums in car racers ... so something like that ... I once wrote to you that in the USA, homeless people live better than most in Russia and Ukraine, and he wants to go there ... I wrote to him to immediately go to the USA on a tourist visa and stay homeless there, if this is his happiness ... no one bothers ...
                1. Savigne Offline
                  Savigne 1 October 2019 00: 41
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                  Quote: Sapsan136
                  From a change in the political system.

                  "Change of political system" does not happen. There is a change in the OEF through revolutions or reactionary coups.

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                  ..the state does not disappear.

                  Even as it disappears.
                  For example, the Russian Federation has nothing to do with the Russian Empire. Just because the Russian Empire was DESTROYED by the Bolsheviks. And with the coming to power of the Bolsheviks, the history of Russia (and Russia, this is strictly a Romanov invention) ended once and for all.
                  The Russian Federation, in a sense, is a continuation of the USSR (reminiscent of the "Soviet" period, before "socialism" invented by Dzhugashvili). But it certainly has nothing to do with the Russian Empire. There was no restitution. And there was no restitution, which means there is nothing to talk about.

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                  France remained France under kings, and under emperors, and under republics, and today it is France.

                  You do not know social science. Therefore, you should not argue on this topic.

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                  There are state-forming peoples ...

                  See the previous paragraph. The meaning of the term "people" is unknown to you.

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                  .. there are people, and the next attempt to create a state goes to dust, and will soon come to a predictable end, just like with your battle archers ...

                  What is happening in Ukraine is also unknown to you. You do not even understand the essence of the processes taking place there (and not only there).
                  Yes, and here, Ukraine, this is not a curse.

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                  .. where Ukrainians were a minority and they were servants ...

                  I don’t know about this. But after the capture of Galicia, its population became slaves. Slaves of the USSR, i.e. Dzhugashvili (it was the only OWNER of the USSR until 1953).
                  In addition, do not confuse the Subcarpathian Rusyns (Galicians) with Soviet Ukrainians. These are people of different nationalities, forcibly united in the framework of the Ukrainian SSR.

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                  .. there will be money even for battleships, if there is a need for them ...

                  What nonsense. Something in Israel and Singapore no battleships. Where do they come from in the Russian Federation, whose economy is comparable with them?

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                  In the USSR, the state provided people with housing and coped well with this.

                  You tell this nonsense to Dr. Pilyulkin. When he knocks you with a hammer on his knee.
                  The Soviet citizen most often lived like cattle in a farmyard. Often in barracks / dorms, but often in four in a two-room Khrushchev with a passage room. And this is not the worst option. It was not life, it was EXISTENCE.

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                  ..and in the USA even today the majority do not own real estate and live like half-bums, in car racers ...

                  That's nonsense, so nonsense. Did you see the USA at the cinema traveler club?
                  The USA is the richest country in the world where people live to the envy of EVERYONE else.
                  And lumpen is everywhere.
                  1. Sapsan136 Offline
                    Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 1 October 2019 01: 20
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                    The fact that the Russian Federation has nothing to do with the Republic of Ingushetia is purely your Ukrainian position, because it is beneficial for you, but other countries and I have a different opinion, and the Russian leadership too ... Russia was before the Romanovs, it will be after Putin , how would you not like the opposite ... In France, after the overthrow of the king, the owners also changed, it does not mean anything .... Your problem is that you are tying everything to the dollar ... The population of China is also not so rich on paper, and for the most part it is poorer than in Russia, but the Chinese fleet today is confidently taking second place in the world ... soon and the first will take ... And Israel ... well, Israel, its fleet is weaker than that of the impoverished South Africa, which today has 6 brand new multi-purpose missile frigates .... Today, many still live in Khrushchev, and most of them are in Soviet apartments .. so you don’t have to lie ... By the way, the studio apartment today is a Soviet small family ... In Lviv, until 1939, Ukrainians were not allowed into trams, disdained, and only Stalin and the Russian army let them in ... I have a good I was educated both in Ukraine and in the USA, so tell your tales the same as you do to the villagers who am never happens ... By the way, if you counted the cost of good meat in the US and in Russia, the military engineer in the United States lives on 18000 rubles a month, which, to put it mildly, not a lot ...
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                      Savigne 1 October 2019 11: 58
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                      Quote: Sapsan136
                      Russia was before the Romanovs.

                      Learn the story.
                      Russia appeared on world maps in 1721 and disappeared from there in early January 1918.
                      The Russian Federation and RI have nothing in common. Just the names are similar.
                      Although it was originally planned that it would have. But then they changed their minds, and now the Russian Federation has some similarities with the USSR.
                      At the same time, the USSR and RI had nothing in common.

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                      Your problem is that you are tying everything to the dollar ...

                      The whole world counts in money. Those. in USD.

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                      The population of China is also not so rich on paper, but for the most part it is more impoverished than in Russia.

                      The average Chinese in 2018 was 2,5 times richer than the average Russian. And this is taking into account the fact that in 2018 it was impoverished by 23,2%.
                      Ponte in graters from the United States are expensive.

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                      ..but the Chinese fleet today confidently takes second place in the world ...

                      China today is the second world economy. Therefore, the fleet they can afford the second in the world.

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                      ..well Israel, his fleet is weaker than that of the poor South Africa.

                      Poverty South Africa, this is also your imagination.
                      26th place in the world, the economy is 61,6% of the Russian level.
                      The average Yarovets is richer than the average Russian by 1,55 times (all data for 2018).

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                      Today, many still live in Khrushchev.

                      В OWN Khrushchev

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                      By the way, the studio apartment today is a Soviet small family ...

                      Soviet smelly hostel and studio, is it the same thing? It’s ridiculous.

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                      ..and only Stalin and the Russian army ..

                      In the days of Dzhugashvili, there was no Russian army. Even the old Bolsheviks put an end to it.
                      Do not confuse Russian and Soviet.

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                      I have a good education.

                      "Soviet", probably. So I see that you don’t know anything at all.
                      The country of total ignoramuses "with crusts".

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                      By the way, if you count on the cost of good meat in the USA and in the Russian Federation, a military engineer in the USA lives on 18000 rubles a month, which, to put it mildly, is not a lot ...

                      The average Amer is 44,3 times richer than the average Russian. Hello to your Looking Glass. And he is the richest man in the world (among the significant economies of the world). He is even richer than the average Swiss, who are generally accepted as rich.
                      Yes, and one more thing, for those wishing to compete with the USA, the US economy is 99,3 times larger than the Russian economy. For those who do not understand, the Russian Federation economically, this is 1,01% of the US level.
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                        Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 1 October 2019 17: 12
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                        Because it’s you, the Ukrainians, who are trying to promote the idea that the post-Soviet countries, they say, were formed after the collapse of the USSR and did not exist before, in order to try to legitimize today's unfair borders ... History needs to be taught to you, ALL of your Ukraine on the map of 1654, in the borders of which you crawled to Russia from Poland, in other places of your Ukraine, there wasn’t and isn’t required ... Normal people consider the supply of money with goods in a particular country ... and not empty figures like you ... In China, many live in capsules, instead of houses, where even in p you can’t get up, but just lie as if in a coffin ..... Something no one is traveling from Ukraine to South Africa ... everyone is breaking into Canada, or Russia ... so again you have a problem ... Even in Stalin’s time was fought by the Russian army, units formed from national minorities either stood in the rear or fled from the battlefield from the whistle of the first German route, like the Georgian divisions entrusted with the defense from the Nazis digging ... You rave ... I personally visited in New York, and in Anchorage, and saw enough ... to understand that fairy tales about paradise life in the USA are fables for fools ... It’s not rich there people live , And the people with the most education and not a lousy job ... By the way, the road in Anchorage is not the best quality, and in the north of Alaska and all, mounds of rubble, and in some places there is the ...
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                        Savigne 1 October 2019 19: 11
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                        Quote: Sapsan136
                        ..post-Soviet countries, they say, were formed after the collapse of the USSR and did not exist before.

                        Did not exist. Inheritance with the past was preserved only by the Baltic countries.

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                        ..to try to legitimize today's unjust borders ...

                        And what are “fair borders”?
                        This is some new word in international relations.

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                        ALL of your Ukraine ...

                        Dear, I would tell you to what place Ukraine is to me. But in a public place you can’t.

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                        Normal people consider the supply of money with goods in a particular country ... rather than empty numbers like you ...

                        Still, you are a recognized master of delirium.

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                        In China, many live in capsules, instead of houses where you can’t even stand tall, but just lie in a coffin ....

                        In which television program did they tell you this?

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                        Something no one is traveling from Ukraine to South Africa ... everyone is breaking into Canada,

                        The stump is clear. White in South Africa is not very good right now.
                        In addition, the South African economy is not developing, but is rapidly degrading. In 2011, the average South African “cost” 48,8% of the global average. And in 2018, already 27,7%. What kind of fool is going to go there?

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                        Even during the time of Stalin, the Russian army fought ..

                        In the days of Dzhugashvili, the Russian army (very few) fought at a very different place where you imagine it.
                        And where you imagine, the SOVIET army fought. Very numerous and suffered enormous losses.

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                        ..pieces formed from national minorities either stood in the rear or fled from the battlefield from the whistle of the first German route, like Georgian divisions ..

                        Are you sure that the Georgians needed the USSR and the Bolsheviks?

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                        ..and seen enough ... to understand that the tales of heavenly life in the USA are fables for fools ...

                        Well, if you personally were and saw, then it’s not a horse feed.

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                        Not many people live there, and people with education and not the most lousy job ...

                        Lord, what fables you tell.
                        Well, look in YouTube what is included in the grocery set of Amer’s unemployed. Eat his figs, he's so huge.
                        Look on YouTube how Russian-speaking illegal immigrants live in the USA.
                        Full of the same information in our age of information.

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                        By the way, the roads in Anchorage are not of the best quality, and in the north of Alaska there are still embankments of rubble, and in places there are none ...

                        For those parts, it’s good that they even exist.
                      3. Sapsan136 Offline
                        Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 1 October 2019 19: 40
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                        I also think that you don’t deserve to feed people like you in Russia, don’t deserve ... Leave for the USA, together with Pozner and others, we won’t interfere with your happiness.
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                        Savigne 1 October 2019 20: 03
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                        ... you don’t deserve to feed people like you in Russia, don’t deserve it ...

                        And who told you that someone feeds me in Russia?
                        Besides, who are you to decide what is worth doing in Russia and what is not worth it?
                        You need to think less. And more to work with your hands, raking garbage from the sheds.
                        Damn yourself, the "master of Russia" was found.

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                        Leave for the USA, together with Posner and others, we will not interfere with your happiness.

                        But are you not afraid that they will pass the law, and not Posner will leave for the USA, but you will be sent to the DPRK? This option is not calculated?
                        And then he commanded. Let this one go there, this one here. Pointer...
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                        Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 1 October 2019 20: 15
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                        I, as they say in you, is the titular nation and it is up to you to decide, like me, not you .... We don’t need your advice ... I’m not afraid ... like me, 95% in Russia ...
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                        Savigne 1 October 2019 20: 28
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                        I, as you say, is the titular nation.

                        You are the titular nation of the USSR. Where is the USSR now? That's right, all in North Korea.

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                        ... and decide like me. And not for you ....

                        You could have decided something 28 years ago. It is late now. The train left.

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                        Such as me, in Russia 95% ...

                        However, elections (of different levels) speak differently. You are a miserable bunch sitting on the Internet and constantly whining about "how it used to be good and how bad it is now."

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                        Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 1 October 2019 20: 32
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                        For those who have a pan on their heads ... Changing the name of the political movements of the owners does not cancel the country ... France remained France ... even having changed 3 republics .. empire and kingdom ... Nemtsov talked a lot ... without thinking .. Do not repeat his mistakes ... Write in the Russian Federation to the indigenous population, write against the wind ... This is not a threat ... this is advice ...
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                        Savigne 1 October 2019 22: 37
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                        Quote: Sapsan136
                        Changing the name of the political movements of the owners does not cancel the country ...

                        Yes, do not repeat. I have long understood that you are not even approximately aware of what happened in Russia and with Russia in the early 20th century.
                        And also later too.

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                        France remained France.

                        France remained. But Russia has perished.
                        It also died, as Great Tartaria died in its time. But Tartaria was a much larger and more powerful state than RI. After some time, no one even remembers Romanov Russia (RI).

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                        To write in the Russian Federation on the indigenous population, this is to write against the wind ...

                        What are you talking about? That you recommend that Russians leave Russia?
                        So really end with this.
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                        Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 2 October 2019 20: 00
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                        Russia died only in your Wishlist, Mr. Ukrainian ... So you are not Russian ... and do not write the opposite, this is not so, and we both know it.
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                    321 (321) 10 November 2019 08: 03
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                    You can't even say that about you -

                    ... You are a miserable bunch, sitting on the Internet and constantly aching about "how it used to be good and how bad it is now" ....

                    you are unique, like that “professor” of HSE, unique in your ignorance)))
  • 123 Offline
    123 (123) 1 October 2019 00: 39
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    The Russian state was destroyed by the Bolsheviks in early January 1918. This is so for you, a small educational program on history.

    The Russian Empire was destroyed without the Bolsheviks. They connected to this process later. And what do you mean by "the destruction of the Russian state" - it is not entirely clear. Although in fairness, the Soviet era was not a "golden age" for Russia and Russians by nationality. The economy of the national suburbs was fueled by the RSFSR, the policy of "Ukrainization", redrawing the borders always did not benefit Russia, and so on.
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      Savigne 1 October 2019 00: 56
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      The Russian Empire was destroyed without the Bolsheviks.

      And so what? The interim government completely retained succession with the Russian Empire. Unlike the putschists-Bolsheviks.

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      And what do you mean by "the destruction of the Russian state" is not entirely clear.

      What does "not entirely clear" mean?
      The destruction of Russia (and Russians, but not only them) by the Bolsheviks, of course.

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      ... and Russians by nationality.

      By the 40s, there were almost no "Russians by nationality" in the USSR (this can be seen from 2MB). “Soviet Russians” had nothing to do with Russians (the present). This is an ordinary Soviet substitution of concepts.
      Russian and now in the Russian Federation is extremely small.
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        Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 1 October 2019 01: 29
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        And whom, excuse me, do you think are real Russians? Grand Duke Aleksei Alekseevich who plundered the money of the Ministry of Defense of the Republic of Ingushetia and received from the people the clique Prince Kush Tsushim ?! So, even before 1917, people on the street were throwing rotten tomatoes on the street, together with his mistress, a Frenchwoman of easy virtue ... I’m just from the former, the Tatar prince, if anything, and the nobility received my family for military merit from the hands of Ivan the Terrible, not the Romanovs (my ancestors were governors) .... And what is the killing of the last king of the Rurikovich dynasty (Godunov married to the princess of the Rurikovich dynasty and had children from her, killed by the Romanovs) better than the murder of Nikolai Romanov by the Bolsheviks ?!
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          Savigne 1 October 2019 12: 18
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          And whom, excuse me, do you think are real Russians?

          What does it mean, "who do you think"?
          What am I doing here? Russians (French, Tatars, Hungarians, etc.) have fully formulated features. If you do not know them, then this is not my problem, this is the problem of the recipients of "the best education in the world." Which easily consider some goat-mongering Misha Kalinin Russian.

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          I’m just from the former, the Tatar prince.

          And I'm a gypsy baron.
          What are you ex from? In the USSR, no Tatar princes existed.

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          And what is the killing by the Romanovs of the last tsar of the Rurikovich dynasty (Godunov was married to the princess of the Rurikovich dynasty and had children from her killed by the Romanovs) better than the Bolsheviks killed Nikolai Romanov ?!

          And what brought you there? Who ever told you that one murder is better than another?
          In addition, the last legitimate king from Godunov was Dmitry (he is False Dmitry both times, he is also a “Cossack ....” I don’t remember his last name, Zarutsky or something). And his son Ivan, hanged by a small child at the gates of the Moscow Kremlin.
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            Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 1 October 2019 16: 54
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            It’s not for you, a Ukrainian patient with Russophobia, to judge Russia and its indigenous population ... Two False Dmitry are two different people, one commoner, the second one not even Russian ... Your grammar is lame ...
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            Savigne 1 October 2019 17: 57
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            Not for you, Ukrainian ..

            "Ukrainian" - is it now a name calling? Since when, if not secret?
            By the way, do you know that among Ukrainians (Ukrainians, it’s like Russians, a sign of citizenship), Russians are often found? And the ancestors of the Rus, the ancient Rus, are the common ancestors of the Russians too. Those with corresponding roots.

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            Two False Dmitry are two different people, one commoner, the second not even Russian ...

            And once again for those who are in the armored train - both False Dmitry and the "Cossack Zarutsky", this is Dmitry Ivanovich. The last king of the Rurik family. And the penultimate of the Rurik dynasty in general.
            You don’t know the real story and don’t want to know.
            Retell the list of fairy tales and epics. First, from the famous four Germans of the second Katka. And then, Bolshevik tales.
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            Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 1 October 2019 19: 41
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            Fair borders are those in which your countries were part of Russia ...
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            Savigne 1 October 2019 20: 06
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            And fair borders are those in which your countries were part of Russia ...

            My countries? No, this one is obviously sick.
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            Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 1 October 2019 20: 13
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            You are not a doctor ... not for you to judge ...
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  • 123 Offline
    123 (123) 1 October 2019 00: 42
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    There are no "state-forming peoples."
    You obviously do not understand what a "people" is.

    And here I completely agree with you. Link definitions:

    http://ponjatija.ru/taxonomy/term/550
  • Savigne Offline
    Savigne 30 September 2019 23: 40
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    Quote: Sapsan136
    In Russia, 84% of Russians ...

    84% of Russians!
    Enchanting.
    You have no idea who the "Russians" are and confuse them with the "Soviet Russians." I do not think that there are more Russians (real) in modern Russia than 8,4%.
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    321 (321) 10 November 2019 07: 59
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    Have you spoken out? And now we’re going to learn the materiel, start with the legal one, and I immediately warn you) - you will have to do it yourself ...
    As long as you have no knowledge, even elementary, on this topic, here, close the gaps in your education ...
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    Savigne 30 September 2019 20: 40
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    Quote: 123
    Next year they promise to lay ships for the Navy for dozens.

    To promise is not to marry.
    Salvage where to get? Even the frigates of Russia can not afford.
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      Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 30 September 2019 20: 50
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      There is loot, but if you do not treacherously spend it on all sorts of Tajikistan and Belarus, from which the Russian Federation is neither hot nor cold, and do not steal, taking it abroad, then it will be even more ...
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        Savigne 30 September 2019 23: 16
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        Quote: Sapsan136
        Loot is.

        Oh really?
        The economy of the Russian Federation takes 21 place in the world.
        20 place in Israel, 22 place in Singapore. Do you know what their navy is?
        Someone and once, back in the days of the USSR, said that the poor USSR, this is a very rich country. Since then, they somehow imbued with this “knowledge” and for some reason extrapolate this “knowledge” to the Russian Federation. Explicitly seeing the Russian Federation in the Russian Federation.
        But they are wrong, this is far from the case.
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          123 (123) 1 October 2019 00: 18
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          The Russian economy takes 6th place in the world. And about the 21st, this is in the fiction section, on another site. crying
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            Savigne 1 October 2019 00: 45
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            The Russian economy takes 6th place in the world.

            It is in your fantasies.
            And I operate with quite reliable figures.
            I wrote to you before, you do not understand the term "volume of the economy." And try to replace it with the term "income level" (GDP).
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              123 (123) 1 October 2019 03: 40
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              ... you do not understand the term "volume of economy". And try to replace it with the term "income level" (GDP).

              GDP is the value of all final services and goods that are produced per year in the state, in all sectors of its economy for export, consumption and accumulation, using the factors of production of that state, regardless of the nationality of economic agents.

              What does this have to do with income? fool It is rather strange to hear such things from a person who considers himself an economist. request
              It is very interesting to listen to your definition of the term - "volume of the economy." lol
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      123 (123) 1 October 2019 00: 15
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      You, as always, have an alternative view of reality. laughing
      Russia is one of the few countries with a surplus budget and a small external debt that can repay not only the state. debt, but also "corporate" debts due to gold and foreign exchange reserves. The dough is unmeasured. good Not that some Western democracies, accustomed to giving out an injection of loans as economic growth, not to mention the overseas community of states, where the kidneys of great-grandchildren must be sold to pay off debt. negative
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        Savigne 1 October 2019 00: 49
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        You, as always, have an alternative view of reality.

        Pot calls the kettle black. You don’t understand what you are writing about. Do not understand the terminology. This is called a "chime".

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        Russia is one of the few countries with a surplus budget and a small external debt that can repay not only the state. debt, but also "corporate" debts due to gold and foreign exchange reserves. The dough is unmeasured.

        Typical reasoning "smart janitor."

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        ..prove for economic growth.

        He is told about the "volume of the economy", and he is in response about the "income level" (GDP) and "economic growth".
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            A.Lex (Secret information) 1 October 2019 07: 47
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            Please note - this “economist” and “historian” did not cite a single definition or reliable historical event in one bottle. For him, the collapse of the Republic of Ingushetia - the actions of the Bolsheviks, and not the actions of the elite and the bourgeoisie at the desire to have power and take it away from the king. All of his "evidence" is the crackling phrases of a liberoid spill from the late 80s - early 90s. NOT ONE DEFINITION.
            And you are not quite right - he is not Ukrainian. He is a local creak liberoid. And therefore, proving truths to him is a waste of time. Do not feed him oranges ... he will not appreciate ...
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              Savigne 1 October 2019 12: 29
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              ..none of a definition ..

              This is a look in the textbook.

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              ... an authentic historical event.

              Very often I bring. But some are not given to see.

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              ... the collapse of RI - the actions of the Bolsheviks.

              What else? Of course. Russia (the heir to RI) began to fall apart in 1918, after the Bolsheviks dispersed the Constituent Assembly in early January. By the 20s, Russia had already been finished off by the Bolsheviks.

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              ..and not the actions of the elite and the bourgeoisie at the desire to have power and take it away from the king.

              In fact, Russia and the tsar are not the same thing.

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                A.Lex (Secret information) 1 October 2019 12: 42
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                For the most solid, the RUSSIAN EMPIRE ceased to exist on September 14 (1st according to the old style) SEPTEMBER 1917, AS A RESULT OF THE FEBRUARY REVOLUTION (according to the decree of the Provisional Government, or rather Kerensky, which, in fact, HAS NOT HAD ANYTHING ... however, as with the collapse of the USSR - those who declared it - HAVE NO RIGHT TO THIS! As you say (?) - "the whole world community knows that!"
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                  Savigne 1 October 2019 12: 54
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                  Quote: A.Lex
                  THE RUSSIAN EMPIRE ceased to EXIST 14 (1st in the old style) SEPTEMBER 1917.

                  So, what is next? It was specifically written to you that Russia (the republic) was the heir to the Russian Empire. But the USSR was not the heir to Russia. Russia ceased to exist in early January 1918.
                  And who cares when RI ceased to exist?

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                  ... tryndets, literate !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ...

                  Exactly. You write him one thing, but he didn’t understand a damn thing, it carries some kind of nonsense.
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                    A.Lex (Secret information) 3 October 2019 09: 02
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                    You are caught in a lie (and more than once), and you only wipe yourself and turn over the words of the interlocutor. Come on, come on! It’s been clear to you for a long time and everyone here is enough to look at the assessment of your statements. We have not seen such a troll here for a long time! laughing laughing laughing
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            Savigne 1 October 2019 12: 23
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            Could not argue anything and just call names ???

            Respected. If you look in my profile, I have explained elementary things to you for a long time and in great detail.
            I'm sorry that you cannot understand the elementary.
            But it would be nice if you just kept quiet.
            But no. You write exactly the same nonsense again and again that you wrote before the start of our conversations.
            Then what's the point of explaining something to you on the 38th circle?
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              123 (123) 1 October 2019 15: 33
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              But it would be nice if you just kept quiet.

              lol Do not wait. Go to the science fiction website. There you will present your own ideas about the economy and history from Fomenko and Nosovsky to a grateful and silent audience. repeat
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                  123 (123) 1 October 2019 19: 22
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                  I'm afraid there is little chance of growing to your level of knowledge. laughing For you have some specific knowledge. winked
                  You have only one answer to all questions: you do not understand, you do not know anything, you are scoops, and no arguments. Some statements, it is not clear what are based on. The figures are not clear where they came from, for example, 8,4% of Russians whom you consider to be “real”. Did they measure the skulls with a compass?
                  Be simpler and people will reach for you. good
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                    Savigne 1 October 2019 19: 58
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                    Quote: 123
                    You have only one answer to all questions: you don’t understand, you don’t know anything, you are scoops, you don’t understand any arguments either. Some statements, it is not clear what are based on.

                    Once again - I’m not going to spend a free educational program for the traditionally poorly educated.
                    Want to communicate, do self-education. And then, contact.

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                    Did they measure the skulls with a compass?

                    And here is the compass? Understand, for starters, what a "nation", "people" and "population" are. Those. learn the basics. Then maybe something will become clear to you.
                    However, you do not want to learn anything. And you want to be explained in a nutshell and in 1 minute what others have been studying for years.
                    Cleverly.
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                    123 (123) 1 October 2019 23: 07
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                    Understand first what "nation", "people" and "population" are. Those. learn the basics. Then maybe something will become clear to you.

                    I am afraid that only "alternative" thinking allows us to determine the number of "real Russians" on the basis of these three concepts, and even to the nearest tenth of a percent. laughing Such data can be obtained in three ways:
                    1. Calculate yourself using a certain technique.
                    2. Copy existing information.
                    3. Just come up with. wink
                    Which of these ways is yours? Second or third? lol

                    And you want to be explained in a nutshell and in 1 minute what others have been studying for years.

                    You have wasted these years in vain. laughing
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                  A.Lex (Secret information) 3 October 2019 09: 05
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                  Will be pulled to HIM ??????? laughing laughing laughing If only the same ...! You have too good an opinion about HIM! wink
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    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 30 September 2019 08: 51
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    Wonderful! An outstanding breakthrough!
    200 people / 8 hours = 24 people per hour. = 1 pers. in 3min. = 1 family in 10 minutes

    Unprecedented interest!