F-35 and Patriot: Poland seriously conceived to fight with the Russians

The deal on the acquisition by Warsaw of fifth-generation American multirole fighters, initiated by the talks between the presidents of the two countries at the White House in June of this year, is acquiring more and more specific features, moving from ambitious plans to the stage of practical implementation. However, this agreement is only the most “high-profile” part of the grandiose military modernization carried out by Poland. Far from being a beggar, but far from the richest country in Europe, he intends to invest fabulous sums in the realization of his own militaristic ambitions.

For what specific purpose can all this be done? Against whom exactly do the Poles intend to use the "sword" forged by the Americans, to which they are so eagerly drawn today?

The first thing is airplanes ...

The theme of updating the Polish Air Force fleet has been exaggerated by Warsaw for a long time. Hand on heart, one cannot but admit - in this matter, the Polish army is really "not so hot". Of particular discontent there is the fact that the bulk of the country's military aviation, in fact, is the legacy of that “terrible Soviet past” from which the Poles today so zealously reject - MiG-29 fighters and Su-22 fighter-bombers, manufactured in USSR in the 80s of the last century. In principle, the problem (at least partially) could be solved by modernizing these machines, first providing them with quality technical maintenance and repair, but they don’t want to hear about any military cooperation with Moscow in Warsaw. And they try to expose every emergency situation that occurs with these long-standing aircraft without proper care as “proof” that Soviet (and, incidentally, Russian) equipment is “worthless” and must be replaced. Ideally, the American, of course. However, about five dozen US-made F-16 fighters, which are almost the pride of the Polish Air Force, are almost the same age as Soviet military vehicles and have approximately the same state. In any case, hardly every fifth of them can take off.

As you can see, we decided not to waste time on the issue of acquiring new aircraft, deciding: “To buy is the best!” Well, about the best question is very controversial, but the fact that Warsaw stopped at the most expensive example of a fighter-bomber of all available on the world market is a fact. It was originally planned to purchase 35 aircraft, but had to be limited to 32. However, this shortened version will fall to Poland at 6.5 billion dollars. They plan to get the first 4 fighters there already in 2024, two years later add another dozen to them, well, and the remaining half are expected by 2030. In this case, the question immediately arises, as one wonderful joke says, “the relevance of the use of keyboards in the midst of clergymen”. Roughly speaking: “But why the priest (in this case) this“ accordion ”of the fifth generation at the price of six and a half billion ?!” Warsaw intends to put into service a smaller F-35 than Japan or the UK, but in an amount comparable to South Korea or Israel. Everything is clear with Seoul - there they are afraid of Kim Jong Un. Tel Aviv is in a state of permanent war with almost half of the Middle East. So much for the Poles? Against whom to apply? Let them keep the tales of “containing Russian aggression” for their own diet. It smells of completely different things ...

Total and more!

Poland is not going to limit the process of “pumping up” its own “military muscles” to combat aircraft alone. In the same United States, in addition to the F-35, they are going to buy a very large range of different weapons there. For example, the Patriot PAC-3 SAM, from which the so-called “Vistula Air Defense Line” will be formed. Two full-size batteries: with a radar, 16 launchers and an ammunition load of more than two hundred missiles - all this pleasure will cost Warsaw 4.7 billion dollars. Add to this two dozen M142 HIMARS MLRSs for half a billion dollars, about two hundred ATGMs FGM-148 Javelin, already ordered from the Americans, well, and something else, as they say, "on the little things." In addition, the AHS Krab self-propelled howitzers alone, the Poles intend to stamp at least 120 units in the near future - for as many as five regiments! Warsaw is also trying on the purchase of attack helicopters and even submarines. In a word, of all, more and as deadly as possible. In addition, the most active pace is the buildup in the country of the US military group, and not only in quantitative terms. Among other things, the squadron of American reconnaissance UAVs MQ-9 will soon settle there. Obviously this will be done to make up for more than the meager capabilities of the Polish army in the field of intelligence.

Your will, but all these militaristic attempts are not at all like the declared “strengthening of defense capability”! This year, having built up its own military expenditures to more than two percent of GDP, Poland is beginning to drive into the purchase of American weapons funds that are absolutely impossible for the state to economic opportunities. Such things look logical only in one case - if the country is conducting forced preparations for war, and with a very serious potential adversary. It is also impossible to explain everything that is happening with Warsaw’s only desire to “bend” as low as possible before Washington in order to become his main and most plenipotentiary representative in Europe (at least, Eastern). With such costs for "deflection" and the ridge is no wonder to break! Moreover, conducting the current military-technical policies, the Poles are completely contrary to the actions of the European Union, which has just taken a course at the maximum distance from the United States in matters of modernization and development of its own armed forces. The same Germany and France, instead of throwing money into the American “flying miracle,” prefer to develop their own fighter. And not even the fifth, but just the sixth generation! Italy is also preparing to join them, at one time being one of the most active participants in the F-35 program, but now thinking, if not about leaving it, then about a sharp reduction in purchases of these aircraft.

Again against the Russians?

Say what you like, but there’s no other opponent for a conflict with which Poland might need armaments of this class and in such quantities, except Russia, in nature does not exist! The catch here is that we are not going to attack her (and no one else!). Therefore ... For those who think Warsaw’s possible intentions to unleash a conflict with our country will seem like the author’s wild fabrication, I want to remind you: it was with this country that Russia waged almost the greatest number of wars throughout its history. The most well-meaning historians regarding Poles speak of a dozen of them. Those who look at the question more broadly, looking to the times of the formation of both states, count them twice as much. Alas, observing objectivity, it should be recognized - Russophobia in Poland has been a state ideology and state policy for centuries. Do you think something has changed in the heads of the “hawks” over the centuries that have passed since the attempt to seat his king in Moscow and swallow Russia as a state? I’d venture to upset you very much - just yesterday, September 17, speaking about the 80th anniversary of the accession of Western Ukraine and Belarus to the USSR, torn away by Poland in 1921, its current president, Andrzej Duda, was very penetrating about the “Soviet occupation”, which “cost lives hundreds of thousands of Poles, "tortured and taken to Siberia", calling it "one of the greatest tragedies of the Polish people." They didn’t change their minds and are not even going to.

Naturally, the idea of ​​a one-on-one military confrontation with Russia is too crazy even for the most inadequate politicians in Warsaw. So, after all, they are not going to fight with us alone there. Again, I will give more than relevant historical parallels in this case: in 1812, the Poles marched to Moscow as part of the “united Europe” army under the leadership of Napoleon Bonaparte. In 1939, they dreamed of repeating this experience shoulder to shoulder with the "soldiers of the valiant Wehrmacht." It was not their fault and their merit that the Führer had a completely different opinion on this matter ... It seems that today Warsaw has found another “elder brother”, under whose star-striped banners it’s ready to go on a new “great campaign for East". For the sake of such an exciting event, you can seriously spend money on it, hoping for another attempt to bring to life “Greater Poland is possible”. As a confirmation of my own position, I will also mention the moment that precisely in the United States the actions of the newfound allies are regarded absolutely unambiguously. Headlines like "Great plans for Poland to war with Russia" are full of just the American media. Given that Washington’s global strategy has always been to search in Europe for those who are ready to start a war there for the greater benefit and well-being of the United States, their enthusiasm is understandable.

And you can reproach me with any "thickening of colors" and "escalating the situation." You will find weighty arguments in favor of another explanation for the frantic militaristic fuss of Warsaw, its attempts to build up its own military power beyond all reasonable limits - then we'll talk. In the meantime, Russia, perhaps, should attend to the maximum strengthening of its western borders.
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  1. Bakht Offline
    Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 18 September 2019 08: 52
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    Repeat the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact and secure the western frontiers. That is, to deal with the problem of Poland and the Baltic countries ...
    Just kidding .... Although every joke has a fraction of a joke.
    1. Alexander Butakov (Alexander Butakov) 22 September 2019 21: 08
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      A sad joke.

  2. Bulanov Offline
    Bulanov (Vladimir) 18 September 2019 09: 56
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    Poland and Russia have a common border only with the Kaliningrad region, otherwise you need to go through other countries. Maybe for this a submarine? Most likely, the operation is scheduled for the presidential election in Russia. Apparently, it is planned to carry out lightning-fast occupation and hold a referendum at gunpoint, playing out the will of Russian citizens to join Poland. It would be beneficial for Russia to quarrel Poland with Lithuania, explaining that Vilnius could follow Kaliningrad.
    1. General Black Offline
      General Black (Gennady) 19 September 2019 09: 28
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      Lightning occupation with all sorts of referenda there had to be carried out much earlier. Now this is troublesome business. Another problem of statehood for Poland. Do they need it? There will be a new Oginsky near the hole in the need, to scruff, rubbing his green chains with his fist, another Polonaise. I repeat, do they need it? And you don’t need to quarrel with anyone. They will bite themselves there.
  3. beeper Offline
    beeper 18 September 2019 11: 07
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    All this militaristic "button accordion" organically fits into Polish Wishlist "from mozh to mozh" ?! winked
    Active Russophobic erasure of any memory of the former Soviet-Polish community and the most active participation in espionage and subversive activities in the western regions of Ukraine and Belarus, the preparation and conduct of the Kiev coup d'etat, as well as the preparation of past and future Belarusian "Maidans"!
    The most active participation of Polish citizens (not only from among the "gritty" Zakrukans, namely the Poles!), The Polish army and special services in punitive operations in the Donbass, supplying, training (and treating the wounded) Bandera-Nazi militants (by the way, the American "Javelins" from Ukraine, after all also exported to Poland "for conservation" ?!).
    Provocations with gas pipelines and the incitement of "useful idiots" in the Kiev "Maidan government" to implement Polish plans to weaken and destabilize Ukrainian "statehood" with the aim of creating the conditions for the successful annexation of the so-called "Kresy Voodnyh" -western regions (and there- "how it goes" ) Ukraine (but the same plans, for the next stage, for the "European Hyena" and Belarus-intensive "work" by the Poles in this direction is carried out right before the eyes of more and more "dying" and "getting dirty", "economically interested", local authorities, "right understanding" pro-American, as it were "multi-vector" of their "higher echelons" in Minsk).

    With, economically, politically and militarily (let us leave the tale of the “strongest army in Europe” on shameless Giblets unscrupulous), weakened and completely controlled by the common overseas masters, Kiev, with the annexation of Ukrainian territory, Poland will not have particularly difficult problems, many zapryanki and zapukryanki through my own .... life today, disappointed in the rotten "values" and the tourist "visa-free" popped up by them "euromaidan", pragmatically "sleep and see" themselves in a truly "visa-free" Polish Europe, with "cards of the Pole" or and without them they will “automatically” become Polish citizens (or someone and “blacks”? - from the “mononazi”, together with the Nazis famously exterminating local Jews and residents of other nationalities, this can also be expected!) -even on Russian sites zapadentsy, it’s possible, openly lament “when will we finally join (“ Poland will take us to us ”) to Poland, when will this blessed time come for us? (however, I heard similar“ dreams ”from young and not very residents of the Brest and Grodno regions of Belarus, and not only of these. request ) ". The probability of a military clash between Poland and Russia over Western Ukraine is vanishingly small, but it still exists!
    But due to Poland’s attempt to annex the western regions of Belarus, also proposed by Washington to “Maidan” colonization and separation from the Russian World, even if we assume that the pro-American “Makey group” that has seized power at such a bargain price (conditionally) is “ready to buy a discount ticket” “to Washington's“ Common Europe ”and through the high command will try in advance to neutralize the Belarusian army, with Russia (if by that time the Americans and the“ fifth column ”cannot be reliably internally destabilized, plunging into ny civil conflict "Maidan" type) is guaranteed to be there and to the grandmother did not go!

    Therefore, having long been smelling the spoils of prey, the Polish "hyenas" are arming themselves with modern weapons, organize armed activists of the Nazi activists in the borderlands, ready to establish the "Polish order" on the occupied Ukrainian and Belarusian territories with fire and sword, and advance their troops to the eastern borders, and also, they lure the American warriors “at a standstill” so that, “if that”, “have” the USA as their “guarantor of immunity”!
    But the Polish pans, as the "beloved wife of our master", are the first to oppose Russia to expose their eternal slaves, puppet "Ukrainians" w / Bandera from Ukraine, at the same time using their own hands and not to bother with these " reusable "marginalized ?!"

    PSAll who unleashes fights, conflicts and wars, expect to win them, after their defeat, having thoroughly “received by the horns”, they are offended asking “what are we for ?!” winked
    So it was with Napoleon and the Nazis, and with the Poles as part of their troops .... now now again, already with the Washington "common people", the "pans" are harnessed to "Drang nah Osten" ?!
  4. gorenina91 Offline
    gorenina91 (Irina) 18 September 2019 13: 38
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    -Ah, yes, Poland was lucky ... -Or rather, she herself created and is creating her own clumsy happiness ...

    - She had the mind not to let millions of Arabs, Negroes, Pakistanis, Algerians, Hindus, Turks and so on ... for her permanent residence ... Yes, and the Chinese are there in a relatively small number and do not feel as free in Poland as they used to feel in Russia ...
    -A huge mass of visitors from Ukropia behaves quite humbly ... -And Poland does not cause any special problems ...
    -So, Poland has no problems of external and especially internal security ...
    -That is why Poland can always have on its table two birds with one stone, shot with one shot ...
    1. -to await their American overlords in constant expressions of their hostility towards Russia
    and ... and ... and ...
    2. - it’s already for Poland itself to “simply rave about fat” .., constantly demonstrating on its own initiative its traditional hostility to Russia ...
    - Such are the "two bunnies" ... -Hahah ...
  5. Andrey Sereda Offline
    Andrey Sereda (Andrey Sereda) 18 September 2019 18: 54
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    Dear author, you did not mention that for the war with Russia, the Poles need to go through the territory of the Republic of Belarus .. Or do you think that our missile defense and our soldiers will not help you?
    1. Pishenkov Offline
      Pishenkov (Alexey) 18 September 2019 22: 16
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      I personally think that you can deal with the Poles yourself, if that wink and no F-35s will help them ... It's no fun, by the way ...
  6. Pishenkov Offline
    Pishenkov (Alexey) 18 September 2019 22: 10
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    You will find weighty arguments in favor of another explanation for the frantic militaristic fuss of Warsaw, its attempts to build up its own military power beyond all reasonable limits - then we'll talk.

    - there is such a reason. And this reason is typical for all countries, especially for Eastern Europe, and for Poland it can also be multiplied by 3 at least wink . Called "CUT" wink In the Czech Republic, for example, there have recently been two scandals with military purchases - the Austrian Pandur armored personnel carriers and the Spanish military transport aircraft CASA, the Airbas concern. Both there and there lobbying, bribes, cuts and overpriced. The scale, of course, is not the same, but the country and the army are smaller ... Especially, looking at the size of the Czech Republic itself, people were pleased with the purchase of military transport aircraft ... wink
    The Poles, I think, are not really going to fight with us, as, indeed, the Americans. But somehow you need to cut the loot? laughing
  7. Sapsan136 Offline
    Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 21 September 2019 12: 17
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    The gut is thin against the Russian Federation in Psheks, but the Poles will try to tidy up the western parts of present-day Ukraine and Belarus on occasion ... Only in Ukraine Poland claims not even 3, but 6 regions.