Kiev authorities will have to answer for the destroyed Malaysian "Boeing"

Disputes over the death of a passenger airliner in the sky of Donbass five years ago, on July 17, 2014, are still ongoing in the world. On board were 298 people, none of them survived.

Kiev authorities will have to answer for the destroyed Malaysian "Boeing"

In the West, Russia is accused of this crime. They claim that it was the Russian military who shot at the plane with civilians on board. But for some reason, a detailed report of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation with irrefutable evidence of Russia's innocence, announced at a briefing in 2018, remained almost unnoticed. He pointed to the true culprits of the tragedy and put an end to the case of the Malaysian Boeing.

Why were these data not taken into account by the international commission of inquiry? Russia could not clearly convey this information? Or, in the West, they simply did not want to take into account any arguments confirming Russia's non-involvement in this atrocity and bring real criminals to court?

Let us examine in more detail the evidence presented by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.

What the rocket debris said

At the scene of the tragedy, which occurred near the city of Snezhnoye, Donetsk region, there were numerous debris. With the assistance of fighters of the DPR militia, they were all collected and provided to the international commission of inquiry. As it turned out later, among the remains of the aircraft were found details of the rocket that shot down the liner.

Usually, while there is any consequence, it is not accepted to announce intermediate results. But because of the wide resonance that the Malaysian Boeing’s case received, the investigators decided to make an exception to the rule. Approximately every six months they give presentations where they tell us that they managed to find out about the details of the disaster and its likely culprits.

In May last year, the Joint Investigative Group (SSG), showed the public the remnants of a rocket that shot down an airplane, on which the serial numbers of its elements were preserved. By the way, there are no representatives of Russia in this international group, but Ukrainian experts are present.

The presentation showed fragments of the engine and nozzle of the 9M38 rocket, which is used in the Buk air defense system. According to investigators, this ammunition belonged to the 53rd anti-aircraft missile brigade, which is deployed in the Kursk region. The preserved engine and nozzle serial numbers were also demonstrated. Investigators asked those who can help identify the origin of the rocket to respond.

In September 2018, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation answered the call of the international investigation team.

How the killer rocket was born

On September 17, 2018, the Russian military held a briefing, where they not only refuted the version of the guilt of our country in the crash of a passenger plane and the death of 298 people, but also presented irrefutable evidence of Ukraine’s guilt.

The report was based on rocket specifications provided by the Joint Investigation Team. The Russians managed to find out the exact origin of the rocket and track its “military path”. All these data were determined by the serial numbers of its parts, which are as unique as human fingerprints.

So, the manufacturer assigned a unique serial number 8869032 to the rocket engine, and 830113 to the nozzle block. The first digit of the engine number indicates the code of the enterprise where the rocket was manufactured, and the second and third - the year of manufacture. Thus, it was possible to establish that the missile for the Buk air defense system, which shot down a Boeing in the sky of Donbass, was made in the city of Dolgoprudniy, Moscow Region, in 1986.

Experts have raised the archives of the Dolgoprudnensky Research and Production Association, where it is stored technical documentation on all products released by the enterprise, including the rocket engine and nozzle block presented by the investigation team.

According to the nozzle block passport and the rocket engine form, both elements were mounted and installed on the 9M38 rocket on December 24, 1986. The resulting product, which is the ammunition for the Buk anti-aircraft missile system, was assigned serial number 8868720.

The complete assembly list, found in the enterprise’s archive, also says that engine No. 886032 is part of rocket No. 8868720. The path of the 9M38 missile from the Buk air defense system has been tracked.

The fact that the rocket was manufactured in 1986 in Dolgoprudny does not help to find out the names of the criminals who killed almost 300 people with it. But the fact is that the manufacturer’s documentation not only provides information on the manufacture of ammunition, but also helps to track its future fate. Perhaps the persons who unveiled the serial numbers of the rocket elements did not think about this.

In the product logs, the receiver of the ammunition and the date of shipment are indicated. Military acceptance carries out quality control, after which the missile is assigned a tail number. Having received it, the military unit notifies the manufacturer’s military representative about the receipt of the product, about which a corresponding mark is put in the product registration book stored at the enterprise.

So, after the successful passage of quality control, the 9M38 missile with serial number 8868720 was assigned tail number 886847379.

She was sent to military unit No. 20152, which received and delivered ammunition on arrival, which was notified by the manufacturer in Dolgoprudny.

A series of ammunition from the Moscow Region, which included our Buk missile, was sent to the 223rd Anti-Aircraft Missile Brigade of the Carpathian Military District. She was then based in the city of Terebovlya, Ternopil region of the Ukrainian SSR. After the collapse of the USSR, part of Ukraine was not withdrawn, but became part of the Armed Forces. Since 2000, the unit has become the Terebovlyansky anti-aircraft missile regiment. Now the location of the unit is the city of Stryi, Lviv region.

Since the moment the ammunition arrived in Ukraine, there was no information about its return to the territory of Russia.

It is noteworthy that since 2014, several units of the 223rd zrd were located in the Donbass in the so-called “ATO zone”.

Thus, this munition during the incident was in service with the military unit of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which takes part in hostilities.

The culprits of the death of Boeing are in Ukraine

In 2016, the Russian Aerospace Forces made a radio interception of negotiations between Ukrainian military personnel, which contains an indirect recognition of the APU in the destruction of a passenger aircraft.

This conversation could be ignored, taking it for the usual "talk", but the ranks and positions of its participants give reason to take it more seriously.

Colonel Ruslan Grinchak turned out to be one of the persons involved in the conversation who mentioned the possibility of shooting down “another Malaysian Boeing”. In 2014, he led the 164th Air Defense Brigade, and now holds an even higher position. His unit during the crash of the Boeing controlled airspace over the disaster area.

Thus, this person possessed comprehensive information about the air situation, as well as about all the actions of the air defense units of the Armed Forces in this region. If he said the words “another Malaysian Boeing,” then he knew exactly who shot down the plane in 2014.

This is also evidenced by the fact that Ukraine did not provide investigators with recordings of negotiations of military dispatchers and the layout of all its Buk air defense systems in the area on the day of the disaster.

In addition, immediately after the crash of the Boeing, the Americans reported that they had satellite images of the area taken at the time of the attack on the passenger plane. Then, for some reason, they refused to provide personnel who could clarify the situation. Perhaps they covered their Kiev partners.

And the silence of Ukraine in response to the report of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation can also indicate its involvement in the crime. After all, if the APU were innocent of this atrocity, they would have demonstrated either the missile itself or documented information about its use.

Logically, the data of the RF Ministry of Defense were to remove all charges from Russia and blame the Ukrainian military.

Do not also forget about the irrefutable argument, testifying to the guilt of the Kiev authorities in the deaths of 298 people. I mean the fact that in 2014 Ukraine did not close the airspace over the war zone. Moreover, military aviation took part in them at that time. For example, when a short-term conflict recently broke out between India and Pakistan, these countries banned civilian flights over the scene of battle a few minutes after the first shot.

Perhaps the Kiev regime decided to ensure the safety of its military aircraft bombing the peaceful cities of Donbass, hiding behind civilian airliners.
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  1. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 27 June 2019 08: 56
    Only it is better to clean everything.
    And then, until now, the TASS news was about the downing of an airplane by noble rebels. (well, and the rest at the same time)
    1. shpakov.alex Offline shpakov.alex
      shpakov.alex (Alexey Shpakov) 27 June 2019 11: 54
      Whoever knocked down is to blame for the Ukrainian side, since it has not closed the sky over the territory of the conflict. Yes, I remember the message that the militias got an abandoned beech, taken out of standing - was it specially planted? Yes, I remember the message of the militias that ours were shot down by a transport worker and what? And what should the militias have to say when they saw the plane falling? It is a normal reaction to an uncertain situation, especially since the militia has no aircraft. So these news and dialogues do not prove anything, but only record the first assumptions of witnesses. So let those who are really ... clean themselves.
  2. Oleg RB Offline Oleg RB
    Oleg RB (Oleg) 27 June 2019 09: 17
    Yeah ... And every briefing irrefutably denied the hard evidence of the previous briefing.
    They completely lied without shame
    1. Vladimir_ Voronov (Vladimir) 27 June 2019 10: 10
      And you still did not dare to experiment with a dummy grenade in Belarus. Do you continue to crap in the Russian Federation?
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    2. Conn Offline Conn
      Conn (Conn) 27 June 2019 21: 52
      Nazis of the Wehrmacht of the Armed Forces of Ukraine always lie, however, like the whole of Ukraine.
  3. Oleg RB Offline Oleg RB
    Oleg RB (Oleg) 27 June 2019 09: 25
    And yes, that's right, Boeing shot down Voloshin on a Su-25 with a suspended Ukrainian missile from Buk, which was directed by the Spanish dispatcher Carlos through an adjustment from Savchenko
    1. Prutkov Offline Prutkov
      Prutkov (Kozma P) 27 June 2019 12: 08
      What are "working versions" during the investigation, you probably have not heard? The presence of another plane just does not refute, but confirms the version of the provocation. The plane was supposed to fall in a strictly defined area near the border. To do this, it was necessary to calculate the trajectory of the fall, which could not have been done without knowing the current parameters of the aircraft (altitude, speed and direction of flight). It is practically difficult to obtain such data with the help of a radar. The radar provides information about the instantaneous distance from the aircraft to the radar and the azimuth to the aircraft. And if we assume that the aircraft flies at a certain angle to the radar and the launcher, which is located in a different area, and still performs certain maneuvers, then it becomes very problematic to determine the desired values. Therefore, a second plane was needed, which would report the current flight parameters. As for the rocket. It was necessary to serve a little in the army (it does not matter which one - the Russian Federation, the Republic of Belarus, the Armed Forces of Ukraine), in order to know what it is - "number accounting" of weapons in the service of missile and artillery weapons. All such products are registered personally from the military unit to the service of the RAV in the General Staff. A constant record of movement and routine maintenance on such products is kept. This was demonstrated at a briefing at the RF Ministry of Defense, when the history of the rocket was restored in separate numbers. Likewise, you can trace weapons when they were sold, if of course they were officially sold.
    2. Valentine Offline Valentine
      Valentine (Valentin) 27 June 2019 17: 36
      And you, Oleg RB, continue here to shit and slander a little bit, get over to the "Censor", there you will be understood and smiled.
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  4. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
    steelmaker 27 June 2019 10: 06
    Israel would long ago have found a way to communicate with this Ruslan Grinchak. But we will not be likened to such methods. We are already se ....., and Russia is wiping and making excuses! It is easy to be honest and noble at someone else's expense!
  5. Valentine Offline Valentine
    Valentine (Valentin) 27 June 2019 12: 36
    Nothing, guys, now all those who change their shoes in the Ukrainian government, for fear of going to trial, will lay out all the crimes of the previous regime, because the new government does not want to take all the consequences of the previous government on itself, and even more so, even in PACE they were thrown, and they are sick of the EU.
  6. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
    Bulanov (Vladimir) 27 June 2019 13: 54
    And why is it not considered the version of the attempted Ukrainians on Board No. 1 with the President of Russia? In this case, the phrase of the Ukrainian pilot Voloshin (that this plane was at the wrong time and in the wrong place) falls into place. A Russian plane was reportedly flying at about the same time, but decided to fly through Belarus, and not through Ukraine, which may have saved it from a downing.
    1. Prutkov Offline Prutkov
      Prutkov (Kozma P) 27 June 2019 16: 46
      Ukrainian pilots should not be considered completely stupid. The lack of flying hours does not prevent the Boeing with 2 engines from IL-96 with 4 engines. In addition, both aircraft conducted air traffic control service from the take-off. The sides had different callsigns. Confusing them was not real. As for the phrase Voloshin said after the landing, then secret documents published by the secret secret of one of the units were published on the network. There was traced the idea that the pilots were tasked to intercept the plane, which was supposed to drop cargo for LDNR. This option is quite likely. Here are the pilots and escorted the board. Well, when people fell from him, and not loads, it became clear that the board was not the same.
      1. Oleg RB Offline Oleg RB
        Oleg RB (Oleg) 27 June 2019 17: 38
        At least something new among the hundreds of versions
    2. Oleg RB Offline Oleg RB
      Oleg RB (Oleg) 27 June 2019 17: 36
      Because all thinking people laughed at this version for a long time.
      1. Conn Offline Conn
        Conn (Conn) 27 June 2019 21: 55
        First take off the pan, and only then you will try to become "thinking"!
  7. Syoma_67 Offline Syoma_67
    Syoma_67 (Semyon) 27 June 2019 16: 01
    detailed report of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation with incontrovertible evidence

    - this is about the Su-25 or MiG-29, the Spanish dispatcher Carlos, about the report of the late deceased Zakharchenko about the downed An-26 - what is it about?
    1. Oleg RB Offline Oleg RB
      Oleg RB (Oleg) 28 June 2019 08: 01
      Yes, including
    2. Oleg RB Offline Oleg RB
      Oleg RB (Oleg) 28 June 2019 12: 18
      See how minus laughing
      Oh, I’m not living with them all these briefings of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation and other tales
  8. Ivan Sergeev Offline Ivan Sergeev
    Ivan Sergeev (Ivan) 28 June 2019 05: 05
    They are obliged to answer not only from Ukraine, but also their main US masters, as accomplices of this crime.
  9. Vladimir1 Offline Vladimir1
    Vladimir1 (Vladimir) 28 June 2019 15: 36
    Putin is to blame and be responsible for the destroyed Malaysian Boeing
    1. Vladimir1 Offline Vladimir1
      Vladimir1 (Vladimir) 28 June 2019 15: 46
      On September 28, 2016, the Joint Investigation Team presented some of the preliminary results of the investigation, stating that the Buk air defense system, with which the plane was shot down, was delivered to Ukraine from Russia, and after the launch of the rocket that destroyed the Malaysian airliner, it was returned back to Russia territory.
      On May 24, 2018, the Joint Investigative Group submitted a second report, according to which the Buk, which shot down the plane, belonged to the Kursk 53rd Air Defense Brigade of the Russian armed forces.
      The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation and other officials of the Russian Federation reject the findings of the investigation, denying any involvement in the disaster.
      On June 19, 2019, the Netherlands State Prosecutor's Office announced that it suspects Russian Igor Strelkov, who commanded rebel forces in the summer of 2014, and three of his subordinates (two Russians and one Ukrainian), and intends to put them on the wanted list. The trial will begin on March 9, 2020 at the Hague District Court.

      1. Kuzmitsky Offline Kuzmitsky
        Kuzmitsky (Sergei) 28 June 2019 20: 01
        And what did you say new?

        The article says that the Joint Investigation Team presented parts of a missile fired by a Buk, allegedly belonging to the 53rd Kursk brigade. So it says in Wikipedia. Naturally, Russia denies the accusations, because the missile that shot down Boeing left its territory back in the 80s.

        But the OSG mistake was that they also made public the numbers that were on the parts of the rocket. Further it was simply a matter of technology to track these numbers from where the rocket came from. What the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation did, using archival documents. If Ukraine were innocent, it would report where the rocket went.

        Just read the documents, they are not secret, and everything is there. And note, no one in the West or in Ukraine refutes the authenticity of these materials. They are simply ignored, which indirectly confirms their authenticity.
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        3. Vladimir1 Offline Vladimir1
          Vladimir1 (Vladimir) 1 July 2019 08: 20
          This is Putin's regime.
        4. Vladimir1 Offline Vladimir1
          Vladimir1 (Vladimir) 1 July 2019 08: 22
          In Putin's lawlessness they can draw any document, they can stir up any fraud. See the report as the beech crosses the border
        5. Vladimir1 Offline Vladimir1
          Vladimir1 (Vladimir) 1 July 2019 08: 45
          So, after the successful passage of quality control, the 9M38 missile with serial number 8868720 was assigned tail number 886847379.
          Where is it written in the documents?
          Photos of poor quality documents so as not to make out a fake?
        6. Vladimir1 Offline Vladimir1
          Vladimir1 (Vladimir) 1 July 2019 09: 07
          She was sent to military unit No. 20152, which received and delivered ammunition on arrival, which was notified by the manufacturer in Dolgoprudny.
          What document is confirmed?
          1. Kuzmitsky Offline Kuzmitsky
            Kuzmitsky (Sergei) 1 July 2019 15: 09
            I received a message from you in PM. Here it is:

            How would you not have to answer for a false article. After the change of the Putin regime, we will judge you.

            I hope that you will not judge me. Neither before nor after the change of "Putin's regime".

            By the way, your statement "This is Putin's regime" is simply a devastating argument.

            Then I answer the questions.

            Where does it say about assigning a side number to a rocket? What document confirms the sending of ammunition to Ukraine and where is the receipt mark? You can find out about this by watching the video from about the 7th to the 10th minute.

            Poor photo quality? Documents are in the archive for about 35 years. Apparently, during this time, the ink faded a little. A fake would be better.

            So first carefully read the documents, and then draw conclusions. Or are you not used to doing this?
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  10. Yura Bream Offline Yura Bream
    Yura Bream (Yura Bream) 3 July 2019 00: 46
    a hat is still lit on the Kremlin thief
    1. Georgievic Offline Georgievic
      Georgievic (Georgievic) 7 July 2019 22: 13
      What hat, what thief? Kizyaki stock up, winter is coming, but no fat! wassat
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  12. Misha Kvakina Offline Misha Kvakina
    Misha Kvakina (Misha) 22 July 2019 04: 50
    Now Ze has been tasked to eat Poroshenko .... To rob him in favor of Kolomoisky !!! And having strengthened, to put Avakov, Turchinov and Parubiy in prison, because Russia will not talk to him otherwise ... And, not finding the real culprits of the downed Boeing, Europe will not talk to them !!! Ze can pull and wrinkle his ass, in a purely Ukrainian style, but the economy is no longer going downhill, but flies like a flyer ... And the Ukrainians will again make their choice !!!