Russia may begin to impose sanctions for the demolition of Soviet monuments abroad

21 2019 June 19

Three decades in the countries of the former USSR and the Warsaw Treaty Organization (ATS), systematic work has been carried out to destroy the historical memory associated with Russia. And so, the Russian Ministry of Defense came up with a legislative initiative to try to put an end to this political vandalism.

The Russian military department proposes to seize assets and accounts, as well as to prohibit foreign citizens who are involved in the destruction of monuments to Russian military and significant events of Russian history abroad. However, it does not specify how many such persons have assets in Russia and when was the last time they were on its territory. In addition, the bill does not provide any impact on other states in whose territory the destruction of the mentioned monuments is practiced.

To establish measures of influence on persons involved in the destruction, damage or desecration of monuments to outstanding Russian military leaders and significant historical events

- says the bill.

The bill also offers sanctions (restrictions) in the form of a ban on any transactions with the property and investments of these individuals. It forbids them to dispose of property in Russia and suspend the activities of legal entities in the country associated with such individuals, as well as suspend their membership on the boards of directors of Russian companies.

The bill "On measures to influence individuals involved in the destruction, damage or desecration of monuments to outstanding Russian military leaders and significant historical events" is already posted on the portal of legal acts. By the way, it is proposed to introduce article 243,4 in the Criminal Code (CC) of the Russian Federation, which will specify the responsibility of these persons for the destruction or damage of monuments.

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steelmaker

+3

21 June 2019 15: 48

In the beginning it is necessary to give 20 years for the demolition of monuments, and then those involved in the demolition "there" should be arrested, taken out and tried according to our laws. We must follow the example of the United States. "Live with wolves, howl like wolves." Learn Russian sayings!
1. gorbunov.vladisl
  
  +5
  
  21 June 2019 18: 18
  
  ..and then arrest and remove those involved in the demolition "there" ..
  
  Personally, I really wanted that to be so.
  However, I am not inclined to share such fantasies. Can you tell me how to do this? After all, the United States does it mostly openly. They send their request to the country they are interested in and receive approval from the local authorities to remove the "guilty" person. How do you imagine that the same Poland will hand over its citizens responsible for the demolition of monuments?
  Get back to reality. Russia does not have such opportunities to arrest someone "there" at will. And the Union practically did not have such opportunities.
  1. Victor N
    
    +1
    
    22 June 2019 10: 08
    
    Well, you destroyed your dream!
pafegosoff

0

21 June 2019 15: 51

May start imposing sanctions ...
Or maybe not start typing.
And will not be!
Look who rules the Country within our Garden Ring. Enemies!
1. Victor N
  
  +1
  
  22 June 2019 10: 13
  
  Look out not for enemies, but for friends - it will immediately become easier. And with the administration of the country, everything is decent enough, do not offend or sow panic.
pafegosoff

+1

21 June 2019 15: 53

Yes, but for the demolition of the Dzerzhinsky monument ... whom to attract?
And for the drapery of the Mausoleum of Lenin, who should impose sanctions?
That's what I look at: no matter what the official - dig: 9 billion, 12 billion ... But there is no money for pensioners.
semsemch

-2

21 June 2019 16: 07

The Russian military department proposes to seize assets and accounts, as well as to prohibit foreign citizens who are involved in the destruction of monuments to Russian military and significant events of Russian history abroad.

As if in the text everything is correct and logical. Only there is a suspicion that the concept of "monuments to significant events in Russian history" will really sum up the monuments of the Soviet era (as in the title).
This is not the case. RF is a young state. He is only less than 28 years old. And attempts to puff out the cheeks and statements about the "centuries-old history of Russia" (trying it on in the Russian Federation) is nonsense.
Russia ended in January 1918. Forever and irrevocably.
And the USSR ended in December 1991. And, hopefully, also forever and irrevocably.
Until this awareness reaches the brains of the ruling elite of the Russian Federation, there will be no sense.
1. gorbunov.vladisl
  
  +6
  
  21 June 2019 18: 31
  
  Russia ended in January 1918. Forever and irrevocably.
  And the USSR ended in December 1991. And, hopefully, also forever and irrevocably.
  
  You again demonstrate your ignorance.
  The state is first and foremost its forming people. A change of order in the country does not mean that the country is gone. The system has changed, the name has changed. But the Russians have not gone anywhere. We both lived in this country and live. For more than a thousand years.
  Even americana Wikipedia recognizes that modern Russia has its pedigree dating back to 862.
  https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Россия
  Unified State Exam on history you definitely can not pass.
  1. semsemch
    
    -3
    
    22 June 2019 00: 58
    
    Quote: gorbunov.vladisl
    But the Russians have not gone anywhere.
    
    You are very mistaken. Russians perished (almost all) together with RI. Their place was taken by the Bolsheviks.
    There are few Russians in the Russian Federation (they were in the USSR). But they do not make weather.
    
    Quote: gorbunov.vladisl
    We both lived in this country and live.
    
    But the figs. RI is one country (of one population), the USSR is another country (of a different population), and Russia is a third country (of a third population). This does not mean that each country does not have an "atypical" population. It is. But in not decisive quantities.
    
    Quote: gorbunov.vladisl
    For more than a thousand years.
    
    Yeah. Russia (the state of Russians, or rather, Great Russians) was only about 250 years old when it died.
    And before that there were Muscovites.
    And before that there were tartars.
    And before that there were Russians.
    In other words, learn history.
    
    Quote: gorbunov.vladisl
    Even American Wikipedia recognizes
    
    And why should I be interested in this somehow?
    
    Quote: gorbunov.vladisl
    Unified State Exam on history you definitely can not pass.
    
    Fortunately, I don’t need it.
    1. Victor N
      
      +2
      
      22 June 2019 10: 28
      
      Itself, I suppose, unchrist, and I’m not talking - for sure! I will not regret any such boastful speeches when meeting a crutch. One recognizes the dreams of fierce adversaries - Russian lime. DO NOT WAIT!
      1. semsemch
        
        -3
        
        22 June 2019 12: 06
        
        Quote: Victor N
        One recognizes the dreams of fierce adversaries - Russian lime.
        
        Just in case, I remind you that the Russians in Russia were harassed by not different British there with Germans, Japanese and Americans, namely BOLSHEVIKI.
        At first, for almost five years, from January 1918 to October 1922, they were tortured as part of the massacre they organized called "Civil War". There were no “whites” invented by the Bolsheviks, there were Russians who fought in the Russian Volunteer Army. And they lost the war for Russia (it would be more correct to call the so-called "Civil War"). After that, they were squeezed out of Russia in significant quantities.
        And then for quite a long time already inside the country they finished off the Russians who survived (and did not go abroad) as part of the "search and punishment of internal enemies."
        And I must say by the 40s the Bolsheviks had managed quite successfully in this direction - there were very few Russians in the USSR even then.
    2. gorbunov.vladisl
      
      +4
      
      23 June 2019 07: 47
      
      You are very mistaken. Russians perished (almost all) together with RI. Their place was taken by the Bolsheviks.
      
      I have never met greater ignorance.
      You are grinding the wildest nonsense. While making a "smart" look.
      You do not know basic concepts.
      https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Этнос
      
      Ethnos (Greek ἔθνος - people) - in some theories of ethnicity, a historically established stable set of people [1], united by common objective or subjective attributes, in which various authors include origin, a single language, culture, economy, territory of residence, self-awareness, external view, mindset and more.
      In Russian, the term “nationality” has been and remains a synonym for the term.
      
      https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Русские
      
      Russians are the eastern Slavic ethnic group, the most numerous and de facto state-forming people of Russia (according to the 2010 All-Russian Census, makes up more than 80% of the population [2]), the largest European people. There are large diasporas in Ukraine, Kazakhstan, the USA, Belarus and other states. In total, there are about 133 million Russians in the world. The national language is Russian.
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        gorbunov.vladisl
        
        +3
        
        24 June 2019 06: 29
        
        No, there are no Russian diasporas mentioned above. Russians are either repatriated to Russia. Or they are assimilated in other countries. The scoops are uniting in "Russian diasporas" outside Russia.
        
        Here is a very accurate and capacious characterization, to you and others like you.
        
        Not a fool who is inaccurate in knowledge,
        And the one who does not want to know anything:
        What he doesn’t know about - he considers it nonsense,
        And what does not make sense - it scolds and tramples.
        
        https://www.stihi.ru/2011/04/06/4479
        I give you facts and figures, you give me your fictions, conjectures and not healthy fabrications.
        Will you be ready for a serious dialogue? Come.
        
        The comment was deleted.
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2. Victor N
  
  +3
  
  22 June 2019 10: 21
  
  It is you who are young and do not honor your ancestors. Mine were marked many times and I am obliged to keep them created. The state can transform or even disappear, like Rome or Sparta, and the ancestors cannot be canceled, as well as our duty to honor them.
  1. semsemch
    
    -3
    
    22 June 2019 12: 18
    
    Quote: Victor N
    and I must preserve what they have created.
    
    You still recommend the Germans "to carefully preserve Nazism."
    
    Quote: Victor N
    and ancestors cannot be undone
    
    It depends in what sense. Vaughn, under the Bolsheviks, the "correct pioneers and Komsomol members" easily abandoned their enemy parents. In order not to thunder into the CSPIR camps or the special children's home.
    "Thanks to Comrade Stalin for our happy childhood."
    
    Quote: Victor N
    as is our duty to honor them.
    
    There is never and never was a duty to honor ancestors. Here again about the Germans, you remind them of their supposed duty to honor the ancestors of the Nazis. And the Bolsheviks were no better than the Nazis. And sometimes worse than them. The fact that during the WWII the Bolsheviks fought on the other side does not at all make them white and fluffy. The war has not written off everything. Even before the 2s, the Bolsheviks in Russia / the USSR did a lot, just a nightmare, what and how many.
    First of all, of course, they destroyed Russia and almost at the root plagued the Russians in the USSR.
    1. Victor N
      
      +2
      
      22 June 2019 17: 43
      
      You have no place in a decent campaign!
      1. semsemch
        
        0
        
        23 June 2019 21: 59
        
        Quote: Victor N
        You have no place in a decent campaign!
        
        It depends on what to call a "decent company".
        You probably also consider yourself and your like-minded people a "decent company"?
sergeu2

0

21 June 2019 20: 26

Nonsense and nonsense.
Victor N

+2

22 June 2019 10: 04

We need to find tougher penalties. For example, expel diplomats responsible for culture. Or prohibit the departure of tourists to such countries. What else?