The Kremlin made a decision on the Donbass, regardless of the election results

Confirmed information has appeared about the issuance of Russian passports to LDN citizens and the recognition of republics in the status of South Ossetia and Abkhazia regardless of the results of the April 21 elections. This will complicate relations with the new president of Ukraine, but a decision has already been made.




Nobody wanted war, war was inevitable! Russia must prevent the development of this kind of scenario!

- said Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov at a press conference following a meeting of the Council on Foreign and Defense policyrecently held in the suburbs.

The worst thing, as a rule, happens when it is not expected at all and when it seems that the worst is over. As history teaches us, when everyone says - tomorrow, June 22, graduation evening, and then summer - as a rule, the war begins ... Russia, it seems, decided not to wait any longer and play ahead of schedule.

In principle, rumors about this have crept for a long time. If you say that the question is ripe, then this means not to say anything - it is overripe. And overripe another four years like. I'm talking about a bleeding wound in the Donbass. Five years there people are at the turn of the fire. Five years between heaven and earth, defeated in the rights of their own country and not accepted by themselves, following the example of Crimea by the Russian Federation. Here I will not discuss here whether Russia did the right thing or not, whether they put enough lives and shed blood to earn this right, or not enough, as well as how this all affected the international image of the Russian Federation, I will not be here. I can only say that all this has been going on for 5 years, the Great Patriotic War has already ended, during this time we liberated not only our lands captured by the Nazis, but also half of Europe cleared of Hitlerite evil and the Far East from the Japanese invaders. And here we can’t cope with the Papuan regime and its poorly armed mischief mired in corruption and theft, fighting with large-caliber artillery and mortars against its own civilian population, with the audacity to not recognize the junta that came to the blood. It is clear that without our help they would not have survived. It is clear that it cost us nothing to defeat this flock of scumbags and end our campaign in Lviv. It is clear that the Kremlin was then guided by other considerations, trying through Donbass to regain control of all of Ukraine. And it is clear that we did not succeed. It is also clear that all this did not save us from external sanctions, but brought confusion and confusion to the souls of Russians who did not understand and did not approve of such a Kremlin maneuver. Those. The Kremlin lost twice - both on the internal and external perimeters, and everyone (both on the external and internal tracks), holding their breath, expected what he would do now.

There were not many options. Or rather, just two. Or not recognize the elections in Ukraine with many violations, regardless of whoever won them, with the subsequent automatic reduction of the LDNR status in the model and likeness to the status of South Ossetia and Abkhazia, with the instant issuance of Russian passports to everyone there (I think , the people who have been there over the past 5 years have earned this right already, and let them try the APU to “shoot” them at least once, that’s the statehood of Ukraine) and cutting off the remaining territory from trade with the Russian Federation (the benefit of the Treaty p of friendship and cooperation of their own efforts and broken). After that, the new / old elected president of this lack of country will have to become more accommodating and the problem of Ukraine will move from the acute phase to the long-running one (following the example of relations with Georgia), which will allow Putin to transfer his powers to the future successor with a calmer heart in 2024.

If Poroshenko won, this option became the only one. If Zelensky won, two options were possible. Or the first, with non-recognition of the elections and all the consequences listed above. Or the second, wait another six months or a year, look at the first steps of the new president in the international and domestic arena. The latter option is the worst for residents of Donbass, as it will freeze their difficult situation for at least another year. Another year of painful expectation between heaven and earth of people without a future could sadly affect not only them, but also the image of the Kremlin in the eyes of their own citizens. Therefore, it was urgent to do something.

The first leaks that the changes were coming began in the autumn of last year, when the department of Vladislav Surkov, responsible for Ukraine and completely failed in this area, began reorganizing and rotating personnel, which resulted in a change not only of the signboard, but also of the leadership. The result of this was the removal on April 4, 2019 from the post of Head of the Frontier Cooperation Directorate of the AP of the Russian Federation Oleg Govorun, (supposedly for family reasons), and the appointment of Alexey Filatov to this position, who had previously held the position of chief adviser in this department, who supervised relations with South Ossetia. I especially draw the attention of inattentive readers - with South Ossetia! Truncated ?! Draw conclusions, gentlemen!

The day before yesterday, April 17, Putin signed a decree. Oleg Govorun has headed the department since 2013. It was formerly called the “Office of the President for Socio-Economic Cooperation with the Member States of the Commonwealth of Independent States, the Republic of Abkhazia and the Republic of South Ossetia,” and received the current name “The Office for Cross-Border Cooperation of the Presidential Administration of the Russian Federation” in October 2018, after the release of the corresponding GDP Decree . At that time, the area of ​​responsibility of the administration also changed - it continued to oversee Abkhazia and South Ossetia, but only Ukraine remained from the CIS countries in its jurisdiction.

The next bell in this direction was the recent statement by the director of the Information and Press Department of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation, Maria Zakharova, on the air of Vladimir Solovyov’s program, “Sunday Evening,” April 14.


The non-participation of LDNR residents (for a second, still citizens of Ukraine!) In the presidential elections, according to Maria Zakharova, only means that they are no longer citizens of this country for the leadership of Ukraine, which completely unties the hands of the Russian Federation. President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko will go down in history as a person who, by his own decision, deleted the inhabitants of Donbass from the population of Ukraine, which not only unties the hands of the Kremlin, but also completely legitimizes the special attitude of the Russian Federation to them. Those. for those who do not understand, Maria Zakharova beautifully brings the legal basis for the Kremlin’s subsequent actions in this direction with the further recognition of the territories torn away by Kiev. Solovyov only summed up her reasoning, saying that if Ukraine abandoned its citizens, then the international community and the Russian Federation, as part of it, are simply obliged to take their part in their fate. What, he hopes, Russia will do.

Gentlemen, if this is not a bell, then what is it? This is a bell, it’s just ringing - big changes are coming. All red lines Ukraine has already passed. No one is experiencing any illusions about its new president in the Kremlin. The light version of Poroshenko in the person of comedian Zelensky can’t change anything, since the levers of influence on it remained in the same uncle Sam’s hands, which means that it’s time for the Kremlin to raise rates, because you still have to bargain not with the clown, but with its owners from overseas. Yes, this will certainly complicate the Kremlin’s relations with the newly elected president (if Zelensky is elected), but given the degree of his freedom in decision-making, the Kremlin does not care! The decision was made and it is not in favor of Kiev.

In this regard, the issue of LPR and DPR passports has revived on the territory of LDNR. This is due to the fact that leaks have gone through many channels, that the Kremlin is considering the scenario of granting Russian citizenship to the DPR and LPR according to a simplified procedure.

After the 2nd round of the presidential election in Ukraine, which is scheduled for April 21, Russia may introduce a simplified procedure for granting citizenship to Ukrainians living in the territory of the Lugansk and Donetsk people's republics. Such a scenario is being considered in the Kremlin; a draft of the corresponding decree of President Vladimir Putin has already been prepared

- about it RBC said a source close to the presidential administration, and confirmed the interlocutor, familiar with the preparation of the document.

In this case, according to the presidential decree, residents of the DPR and LPR will be able to obtain Russian passports according to a simplified procedure - without mandatory exams and compliance with the requirement of living in Russia for more than 5 years. At the same time, officials and security officials will be able to get Russian passports on the spot, the rest will have to travel to the Rostov Region (Matveev Kurgan) for this.

A source close to the RF IC confirmed to RBC that over the past months, Russian security officials and officials had a series of meetings with employees of the LPR and DPR migration services on this issue. Another source close to the leadership of the DPR said even more:

This is a simplified procedure for issuing Russian passports to residents of the republics. According to him, the main conditions for changing citizenship will be the presence of LPR and DPR passports and the surrender of a Ukrainian passport.


For reference: as of the beginning of 2018 - the end of 2017, according to the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the DPR and the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the LPR, the passports of the republics already acquired 150 thousand and 100 thousand people in the DPR and in the LPR, respectively. The total population of the republics, according to official statistics, is 3,7 million people. And you yourself understand that immediately, even on a signal from the Kremlin, you won’t do this kind of work (therefore, preparation has been going on for a long time, and the leak about the delivery of thousands of forms of Russian passports to the Rostov Region to the local migration service, you understand, appeared completely by chance ) The law granting the president the power to decide who can obtain Russian citizenship under a simplified scheme entered into force at the end of March. The adopted amendments will allow granting Russian citizenship to people from countries with complex socio-political and economic situation, as well as from states where armed conflicts and regime change occur. Those. everything is ready in the Kremlin, everything is at a low start. Only the go-ahead of the Supreme is waiting. GDP is waiting.

The Ukrainian side is also in the know. Back in January, the People's Deputy of BP Dmitry Tymchuk reported that according to him,

the leadership of the so-called People’s Militia of the LNR was informed that after the signing of the corresponding decree by Russian President Vladimir Putin, residents of LNR who already have LNR and DPR passports will be able to obtain passports of Russian citizens.


Everyone understands that the scenario of the Russian passportization of the LPR and the DPR is an element of the bargaining between Moscow and Kiev around the future of Donbass. Moscow deliberately raises rates, clearly understanding that this step may close the hypothetical window of opportunity for negotiations that will open in the event of a change of power in Kiev, but it can no longer ignore the hopes of residents of the republics

- I quoted RBC from myself, I can only add to this that Moscow can no longer ignore the hopes of its own population, for which such behavior of the Kremlin reduces the degree of trust and respect for it.

Now everyone in Moscow understands that passportization is unlikely to aggravate the sanctions pressure on it from the West. Roughly speaking, Moscow already does not care! The image in the eyes of their own population is more expensive. The implementation of such a scenario immediately after the election will only mean that Moscow does not experience any illusions about the candidacy of the new president and does not seriously consider the prospect of constructive negotiations with Vladimir Zelensky if he wins.

Summary


All observers of Russian-Ukrainian relations could not fail to notice that since the end of last year, Putin turned on the "always busy" regime for the Chocolate President, not wanting to participate indirectly in his election campaign. Which, however, did not prevent Chocolate from going to the polls under the motto: “Either me or Putin!” (True, and this did not save him!).

And indeed, what could one talk about with a dangerous idiot who constantly arranges provocations and is not responsible for his own words? You can and should talk only with those who make their own decisions. Poroshenko was clearly not one of them. But whether Vova Zelensky is included in their number or not, it will become clear immediately after April 21. To stimulate him to a productive thought process of GDP and initiated the preparation of passportization of Donbass. He is ready for counter steps from the Ukrainian side, but he doesn’t have any special illusions about this. If Vova Zelensky does not catch the trend emanating from the Kremlin, he risks changing the “always busy” mode for Chocolate to the “temporarily unavailable” mode for herself. And then Putin will no longer speak with him, but with his masters.

PS And finally, as a forecast for the upcoming April 21 elections, for people who still stupidly believe in Poroshenko’s victory and hoping to get rich fabulously put the bookmakers on it, I must say gentlemen, you are epic idiots! Even if Zelensky is enchantingly disgraced on the 19th day of the debate (by the way, it’s not a fact that he will come there!), While showing his monstrous incompetence in all absolutely matters, even if after that he also runs naked through the stadium, leaving behind it’s a cocaine trace, even in this case he will win the election with a crushing score for Petit. Because the hatred of the people for the Confectioner outweighs all the other reasons. And then, if Zelensky does not justify the hopes placed on him by the people, the same fate will befall him. Only much faster. Sit back, the movie promises to be exciting, but with a sad ending.
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  1. Oleg RB Offline Oleg RB
    Oleg RB (Oleg) April 19 2019 12: 12
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    Curious procedure. Will the Ukrainian passport need to be handed over for destruction or can it be hidden? wink
    1. Bakht Online Bakht
      Bakht (Bakhtiyar) April 19 2019 12: 42
      +2
      I have a Komsomol ticket. I did not get a party.
      1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
        A.Lex (Secret information) April 19 2019 13: 11
        +1
        And mine disappeared ... 15 moving and changing places of residence ... despite the fact that this is not the main document ... that I was lost somewhere. True, the trade union survived by some miracle ...
        1. Bakht Online Bakht
          Bakht (Bakhtiyar) April 19 2019 13: 17
          0
          I even remember the number by heart
          11 374 114
      2. Oleg RB Offline Oleg RB
        Oleg RB (Oleg) April 19 2019 13: 34
        +1
        I also have. I didn’t have time for the party
    2. beeper Online beeper
      beeper April 19 2019 17: 40
      +1
      It is clearly said: the condition for obtaining a Russian passport is the surrender of the Ukrainian! smile
      But the Ukrainian "gesheftari", of course, "for a bribe" will "adjust" Ukrainian passports to Donetsk residents, like the Crimeans now, so that they can travel around the world, because neither Crimea nor Donbass is still recognized by "common people" ?!
    3. sgrabik Offline sgrabik
      sgrabik (Sergei) April 20 2019 17: 08
      0
      In his trash. It will never come in handy for the inhabitants of LDNR again.
  2. Bakht Online Bakht
    Bakht (Bakhtiyar) April 19 2019 12: 41
    0
    Do you bet? Poroshenko or Zelensky?
    I bet on Poroshenko
    1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
      A.Lex (Secret information) April 19 2019 13: 09
      0
      Yes, for us it is preferable - in general it will be possible not to talk with this pig.
    2. beeper Online beeper
      beeper April 19 2019 18: 23
      +2
      hi Nope, here, in the Southeast, most of the inhabitants, even the locals and those living among us, the Western Natsiks, the former Maidan skakuas, will vote AGAINST Giblets or just spoil their ballots (for their own complacency, they say, that for Roshen they They didn’t put in falsifiers, although the gun-lovers at the polling stations of this "good" -printed additional ballots, probably, will have a large margin - the lists of voters are unrealistically huge, despite all reasonable approximate calculations for those who actually live in Ukraine!)!
      Moreover, Zelensky is an obvious pro-American puppet and regularly makes anti-Russian statements - local marginal Natsiks and other farmer "Svidomyshs" are quite happy with this. Young people drown for a professional "showman". So offal in the East of Ukraine, if it is garlic, will not pass into dill!
      And the Western Smerekopitheks, which in the majority rode, killing and maiming fellow citizens, on the Kiev "Euromaidan", so wildly jumping wishing ourselves a labor (and not the current "tourist") "visa-free", in the first round, in their three regions, if you believe According to the election commission, most of them were drowned for Pedro-he rogulyam is mentally close to his purely philistine "thinking" and innate Kholui "menshare" with xenophobic manners, as well as a passion for destruction of everything and everything that can only be reached - "I am not so bite, "again, with a schismatic" tomos "and with frenzied attacks on our canonical Orthodox Church, he very pleased the Western Uniates!
      But the Westerners are a dull minority, and only due to the fascinating occupation of Ukraine, they now brazenly "panu" over us. The Americans, too, probably understand that their old Maidan protege (2014) has exhausted the limits of the occupied population's patience in five years and, in order not to "rip off the lid," they need to now play "good and bad policeman" ... so do bets on Zelensky (although it is clear that this was "wasted money", nothing good will come from him and we do not expect anything good from him, understand us, Ukrainian citizens, right, because, by and large, with all the "conversations" of our and your politicians and politicians, help Ukrainians, occupied by an overseas superpower, there is nowhere to wait, and somehow it is necessary to survive - not everyone is able to escape from their home beyond the cordon! request ).
      Amerocolonial Russophobic "elections without choice" in the place of the Russian authorities, I would not recognize in any case!
    3. sgrabik Offline sgrabik
      sgrabik (Sergei) April 20 2019 17: 10
      +3
      And for us, what is the actual difference? From a change of place of the terms ... And the first one is still the skin, and the second one is still at the birth !!!
  3. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
    A.Lex (Secret information) April 19 2019 13: 12
    0
    Greetings, Vladimir - you have not been there for a long time! Where did you go?
    1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) April 19 2019 15: 26
      +3
      I didn’t go anywhere, they just didn’t take the texts from me. It is believed that there are more interesting authors. They write a lot and shortly. And I’m short and long. Therefore, they decided that even less was needed - 1 text for 21 days was taken from me. This is the second.
      1. Valentine Offline Valentine
        Valentine (Valentin) April 20 2019 06: 47
        +3
        Hmm, and you are being quartered ..... It would seem, write and write, but here are your Furtsevs.
        1. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
          Bulanov (Vladimir) April 20 2019 10: 50
          0
          Editorial policy is not always understood by the authors. What the author considers to be a format sometimes passes in the editorial office as an unformat.
          1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
            Volkonsky (Vladimir) April 20 2019 18: 27
            0
            I believe that the editors themselves should shape the tastes of their readers, and not vice versa. otherwise you’ll read about teachers in swimsuits and flash mobs in her support.
        2. The comment was deleted.
  4. Bakht Online Bakht
    Bakht (Bakhtiyar) April 19 2019 13: 14
    +1
    The article says that the Kremlin has already decided on the certification of LDNR citizens. I don’t know, but we will take it on faith. The decision was postponed until the verdict was announced (sorry, election results). But all preparatory measures have been taken. Does this mean that the Kremlin does not believe in Zelensky’s victory? Indeed, if the Kremlin had confidence in Zelensky’s victory, they would have waited at least six months (as the article says).
    1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
      A.Lex (Secret information) April 19 2019 13: 25
      +3
      You do not quite understand correctly. The adjourned sentence means something else - the decision (most likely) to not recognize the elections was postponed in order to look at the first steps of Ze (in case of his victory) at the expense of Donbass. If everything remains, everything was as it was with the giblets. then the preparatory work has already been done - immediately there will be non-recognition. ... In my unprofessional opinion, to acknowledge at least one or the other - it makes no sense to wait. These are different faces of the same entity. If Ukrainians do not understand this, so much the worse for them. If we don’t understand this, then ... well then there’s nothing to say, only emotions will remain.
      1. Bakht Online Bakht
        Bakht (Bakhtiyar) April 19 2019 14: 15
        +2
        I can hardly imagine the recognition of elections at intervals of six months or a year. It is like a pregnancy. Either she is or she is not.
        Recognition of election results is not a recognition of a specific person. This is a recognition of the legitimacy of the elected government. The recognition of Poroshenko in 2014 meant the legitimization of power. So either we must admit the results or talk about violations and illegality of power. And who exactly sits on the iron throne - the tenth matter
        1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
          A.Lex (Secret information) April 20 2019 19: 04
          0
          Bakhtiyar, this reality doesn’t even happen in this reality!
      2. Valentine Offline Valentine
        Valentine (Valentin) April 19 2019 14: 25
        0
        We have everything, Alex, they understand, but TAM all this is measured by the dough coming from there, into their own pockets, and as soon as DAM decided on such-and-such a mind is incomprehensible. Apparently with a rating completely seams.
        1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
          A.Lex (Secret information) April 20 2019 19: 06
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          It’s not enough to understand ... We must act pragmatically ... Apparently we don’t know everything because of what we didn’t withdraw the recognition of the swindler ...
          1. Valentine Offline Valentine
            Valentine (Valentin) April 21 2019 11: 33
            +1
            Alex, we need to act both pragmatically and LOGICAL, but in our actions these are, apparently, incompatible things ... We were already spat, scolded, humiliated further, and we, as always, no matter what happened .. .and this is something with our huge nuclear potential, but North Korea, with its several nuclear warheads, all of Europe, led by the United States, is frankly afraid, apparently remembers those Lyuli that they received from them and Vietnam ..... If we, after the elections in Ukraine, we do not recognize the LDNR as independent states, if we do not stretch our "security umbrella" over them - then it’s definitely worthless for all our authorities, together with the “guarantor.” And here, whatever one may say, Donbass is strong the clan of Medvedchuk, Putin's godfather, is also connected, and this recognition is in no way profitable for him, because his business there is tightly intertwined with Akhmetov's business, so he is pulling Donbass into this "nenka", although he understands perfectly well that the rivers of blood of Donbass residents spilled there they won't let you do it, but ... as they say, who is the war, and who is the mother ...
            1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
              A.Lex (Secret information) April 23 2019 17: 10
              +1
              Valentine, don't contradict yourself. Kim is NOT doing the logical thing for such a small and weakly armed country. Here I agree with him. You have to be NOT predictable, NOT logical. Then they will be afraid of you. And the Anglo-Saxons only understand the FEAR OF DEATH! Whether or not to recognize the LDNR ... there is little information. Therefore, I can not say anything. If I knew more - maybe something worthwhile and would say, but so ... And in general, everything is muddy with this Ukrainian territory - in real life, this whole gop-company is surrounded as enemies in a "ring" (as in WWII) and checkpoints in certain places (letting in normal people and catching valuable specialists).
              In general, the conclusion is that unpredictability and fame scare the most. although all these actions need to be planned. That would be my wish to our leadership ... only who will listen to me ???
              I am more inclined to believe that they will recognize and begin to cooperate with him ... no matter how sorry ... The compromising policy has never led to a good ... As it says?

              If a country, choosing between war and shame, chooses shame, it receives both war and shame.

              - said by the ENEMY, but said true!
      3. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
        Volkonsky (Vladimir) April 19 2019 15: 29
        +4
        Zelensky will win and the Kremlin knows this, it’s just another element of pressure on him. Poroshenko, too, was not immediately recognized. The pause was about three months. He ran, looked into his eyes, complained to Grandma Merkel, admitted to her own head
        1. Giharka Offline Giharka
          Giharka (Giharka) April 19 2019 22: 49
          0
          Vladimir, and how do you like the past debate? Zelensky clearly looked like a winner.
          1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
            Volkonsky (Vladimir) April 20 2019 18: 29
            +2
            professional clowns always look better in the circus than amateurs
        2. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
          A.Lex (Secret information) April 20 2019 19: 06
          0
          Vladimir, sewed on soap ... That’s the whole presidency ...
  5. sergeu2 Offline sergeu2
    sergeu2 (sergeu) April 19 2019 13: 28
    -6
    Vladimir Volkonsky what did you eat? The State Department has already written you a prize.
    1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) April 19 2019 15: 33
      +5
      contact the AP of the Russian Federation, the question is not addressed, the decision is made there, I just broadcast. it’s silly to blame the mirror if you have problems with erysipelas
      1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
        A.Lex (Secret information) April 20 2019 19: 09
        0
        Wolf, he has not a mug problem, but with the brain.
  6. Valentine Offline Valentine
    Valentine (Valentin) April 19 2019 14: 17
    +7
    For my long life, I was twice ashamed of my country, this is when it was "led" by the bitter preacher Yeltsin, and now, for the last five years, for the fact that the Russian people of Donbass was again betrayed by the power of Russia, but remained alone with brutal gangs of armed Galicians-Nazis on the borders of Russia, having taken all the fire of hatred of mines and shells of "zapadentsev" of Ukraine on themselves .... There people live in Russia, believe in Russia, hope in Russia, and we answer them another Minsk crap. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    1. Bakht Online Bakht
      Bakht (Bakhtiyar) April 19 2019 14: 42
      +1
      Valentine,
      A remarkable writer, publicist Ksenia Myalo recently passed away. If you read her book "Russia and the Last Wars of the 20th Century", you will feel absolutely bitter ...
  7. Tolik_74 Offline Tolik_74
    Tolik_74 (Anatoly) April 19 2019 14: 54
    +3
    It was high time to make such a strong-willed decision and not torment the residents of Donbass for 5 years. I can’t understand one thing: Kim, if he has a dozen or so raw atomic charges, put him in the pose of a red-haired guy, and Russia has atomic bombs as dirt, and they all go on about the pendo saf and the gay men.
    1. beeper Online beeper
      beeper April 19 2019 18: 52
      +2
      Quote: Tolik_74
      It was high time to make such a strong-willed decision and not torment the residents of Donbass for 5 years. I just can’t understand if Kim has a dozen raw atomic charges and he put the crotchiest red guy in a pose, and Russia has atomic bombs as dirt and they everyone is talking about pendo safes and gay people.

      hi Dear Tolik_74, Your question is very even in essence! good
      You and the answer to it in your own post wrote -DIFFERENCE IN IDEOLOGY!
      Little North Korea has STATE IDEOLOGY!
      And huge Russia DOES NOT have IT - the destroyers (external and internal) of Soviet Russia (as they called us, the entire USSR, by analogy with the Russian Empire-Tsarist Russia, in the "universal" West!) Took care of this first of all!
    2. bonifacius Offline bonifacius
      bonifacius (Alex) April 20 2019 00: 34
      +3
      Kim not only has a dozen raw atomic charges, but all the courtiers keep their "hard-earned savings" in the nat. currency in Korean banks. And all our so-called. The "ruling elite" keeps all their acquired "back-breaking labor" in green cut paper, in overseas, or other, foreign banks. And the real estate bought on them is also not located in the Tambov province.
  8. Port Offline Port
    Port April 19 2019 15: 19
    0
    I have PRESENT passports (mine and wife) issued in the USSR, with a column of nationality. These are what should be issued, not these liberoid remakeers that humiliate a person of national origin.
  9. Dmitry D Offline Dmitry D
    Dmitry D (Dmitry Duyunov) April 19 2019 16: 46
    +2
    Interesting. And at first glance it is even possible. But given that public opinion is formed with the help of the media, then for Europe, the USA, Canada, etc., the election results will be completely legal, moreover, it may turn out that the citizens of the LPR and DPR even "took part" in the voting. In this case, the distribution of passports may turn into another annexation. One way or another, it is necessary to put an end to the lawlessness that is happening in the neighboring country, and probably in the world. I hope the plan is correct.
  10. sgrabik Offline sgrabik
    sgrabik (Sergei) April 20 2019 17: 16
    +2
    We always do everything with some delay, but as they say correctly, it is better late than never !!!
  11. gennady_2 Offline gennady_2
    gennady_2 (gennady) April 20 2019 17: 47
    +1
    why should the Russian Federation not recognize the election results? motive - two regions were excluded from the election process. and the second motive is that millions of Ukrainians refused to vote in the Russian Federation. Russia has already done one stupidity 5 years ago, recognizing the power that made the state coup.
    1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) April 20 2019 18: 35
      +2
      Everything is more complicated here - the mere fact of recognition or not recognition does not change anything. The USSR was not recognized until the 30s of the last century, and so what? The main internal recognition of the legitimacy of the elections is that the Ukrainian people are ready to recognize Zeli’s victory, then the Kremlin’s decision will go against the will of the Ukrainian people and their hopes for change. You can fight against the regime, but it’s stupid to fight against the people. Moscow itself wanted the Ukrainian people to do something for their salvation. So he does. 20 regions of Ukraine voted for Zelya, and in the West and in the East, he actually again united Ukraine in its hatred of the past regime. Therefore, the Kremlin has a stretch here. Most likely they will take a break and look at the first steps of the new prezik.
      1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
        A.Lex (Secret information) April 20 2019 19: 15
        +1
        What I wrote about here ... Only there is a suspicion that the new broom will turn out to be no better than the old ... Otherwise, it will simply be beaten and that's it.
  12. kriten Offline kriten
    kriten (Vladimir) April 20 2019 17: 50
    +1
    In practice, this would not be a fake, propaganda trick. When issuing passports, one must protect their citizens, and not engage in quiet betrayal, such as the Minsk agreements.
    1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
      A.Lex (Secret information) April 20 2019 19: 17
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      This is the most important question of questions. So far, no official statement has been received from the leadership of the Russian Federation ....
  13. gennady_2 Offline gennady_2
    gennady_2 (gennady) April 20 2019 18: 56
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    cleared of Nazi evil and the Far East from the Japanese invaders.

    with us, on the contrary, the neutrality treaty of April 13, 1941 was observed, and Japan, contrary to the coalition, did not attack the USSR and fully implemented the treaty. it saved us from a second front in the east. it was the USSR that attacked Japan on August 8, 1945 (2 days after Hiroshima and Nagasaki). it was we who violated this pact by canceling it on April 5, 1945, in order to attack.
    1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) April 20 2019 19: 36
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      I do not understand - the USSR is an aggressor? Would you attack? By the way, in your harmonious picture of the world there are obvious mistakes with the beginning of the Red Army operation in Manchuria. Check out at your leisure -

      1. gennady_2 Offline gennady_2
        gennady_2 (gennady) April 20 2019 20: 04
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        By the way, in your slender picture of the world there are obvious mistakes

        what kind of bloopers? my quote please and your argument in what is my mistake (I brought data from Wikipedia). specifically give the date and place when Japan showed aggression against the USSR. and Manchuria was not part of the USSR.
        1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
          Volkonsky (Vladimir) April 20 2019 22: 10
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          still comparing your knowledge with wikipedia? sorry! it was about the fact that the USSR began its operations in the East not on August 8, but on August 23, and managed in 3 days, everything else was preparation for this. We are not arguing here, but trying to establish the truth! Bakhtiyar is absolutely right, but victory in a local dispute is more important to you than truth. Although I share your irony.
    2. Bakht Online Bakht
      Bakht (Bakhtiyar) April 20 2019 21: 06
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      When Molotov met with the Japanese ambassador, everything was said. By the attack on December 7, 1941 on the United States, an ally of the USSR, Japan proved to be an aggressor. By virtue of allied obligations, the USSR does not consider itself bound by this treaty and denounces it. Controversy has arisen over the definition of the terms "denunciation" and "annulment".
      Similarly, Japan did not attack Britain in 1941. Does this mean that the UK is an aggressor? Germany attacked Poland. Did Germany declare war on France, England and then the whole world. Including even Brazil ...
      According to your logic, the whole world should be considered an aggressor towards Japan and Germany. Repent?
      1. gennady_2 Offline gennady_2
        gennady_2 (gennady) April 20 2019 21: 18
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        By the December 7, 1941 attack on the United States, an ally of the USSR, Japan proved itself an aggressor. By virtue of allied obligations, the USSR does not consider itself bound by this treaty and denounces it.

        when denounces? I wrote the denunciation date on April 5, 1945.

        According to your logic

        I do not give my thoughts and logic, I give the official data of our Wikipedia. you contradict yourself by stating that on December 7.12.1941, 1941, Japan attacked our ally, but why then we do not declare war on it in 1945, but only in 1945? why do we denounce our treaty of neutrality with Japan already in 1945? and attack Japan two days after Hiroshima, in August XNUMX? no need to distort the story.
        1. Bakht Online Bakht
          Bakht (Bakhtiyar) April 20 2019 21: 53
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          The agreement was denounced in April 1945, although it was valid until April 1946. Do you know the original text of the contract? Denunciation of any treaty is a common practice of concluding international treaties. There is no corpus delicti in this. Even in our time you will find a bunch of examples of early termination of the contract. Japan expressed regret, but did not dispute the right of denunciation. The discussion was about whether to consider the contract canceled? Between April and August, a lot of time passed. And the USSR officially declared war on Japan in accordance with its allied obligations.
          So you have the wrong interpretation. The USSR did not violate the Covenant, but left it, officially notifying the other side. Just like now, the USA and the Russian Federation have withdrawn from the INF Treaty. Is this a breach of contract?
          To know for sure, you need the text of the Agreement. Do you have it? Give a link, read.
          1. gennady_2 Offline gennady_2
            gennady_2 (gennady) April 20 2019 21: 57
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            The USSR officially declared war on Japan in accordance with its allied obligations.

            ahahaahah. 4 years after attacking an ally? Are you seriously? they made us laugh. that is, you also blame the USSR for the failure to fulfill allied relations with the United States? 4 years waiting))))))
            1. Bakht Online Bakht
              Bakht (Bakhtiyar) April 20 2019 22: 03
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              The USSR precisely followed the Pact with Japan. Allied obligations arose not in 1941, but in January 1945. Read the story.
              And at the same time read the Treaty itself. Especially the third article.
              Then, perhaps, you will not write nonsense.
              PS When I see ahah and stuff, the desire to discuss immediately disappears.
  14. Bakht Online Bakht
    Bakht (Bakhtiyar) April 20 2019 21: 59
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    Vladimir, or those who live in Ukraine. Tomorrow is the second part of the Marlezon Ballet. I have a question. How many votes can Zelensky get in absolute numbers? The first round of the order of 6 million votes out of 18 million active. Will he be able to score at least half? That is 9 million?
  15. sergeu2 Offline sergeu2
    sergeu2 (sergeu) April 21 2019 09: 58
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    Savory nonsense.
  16. kriten Offline kriten
    kriten (Vladimir) April 21 2019 11: 39
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    The solution would rather be simple - betray to the end ... And then the five-year efforts to betray the republics and the tacit consent for their destruction, covered by Minsk betrayals will disappear.
  17. Alexander Shalak (Alexander Shalak) April 21 2019 17: 41
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    The decision made is absolutely correct, balanced and fair! It fully confirms and strengthens pride in our country - the Russian Federation, for its current leadership, headed by V.V. Putin. We will survive the probable intrigues of the West! The Russian world will only be stronger!
  18. Andrey Grad Offline Andrey Grad
    Andrey Grad (Andrey Grad) April 24 2019 01: 34
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    The non-participation of the residents of the LNR in the presidential elections, only says that for the leadership of Ukraine they are no longer citizens of this country, which completely unties the hands of the Russian Federation.

    In the Baltic countries, half of Russians have been living in stateless status for almost 30 years, and this does not untie Russia’s hands.