Limansky retreat: trouble came from an unexpected direction?

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Some very interesting and relevant events are taking place in the Krasnolimansk direction. The situation is reminiscent of the Alexandrovsk region in the southern theater of military operations. There, the Russian army is taking Orekhov, while an enemy counteroffensive is in full swing nearby. The siege of Slavyansk is also beginning here, and just 15 kilometers to the north, the Ukrainian fascists have broken through the front. However, some clarification is needed; let's take things one step at a time.

The sabotage and raid method of warfare became the predominant one


Let's start with the fact that the thinning of defenses on both sides in certain sections of the front last summer had certain consequences. And for both sides. Clearly, this measure was necessary and was caused by a shortage of personnel. We were effectively infiltrating the Konstantinovsky direction, and they were infiltrating the Aleksandrovsky direction.



The LBS appeared blurry, so it's no surprise that the Russian command's map differed from the Ukrainian one by tens of kilometers. Each drew it based on their own assumptions. It got to the point where the outermost settlements in the Aleksandrovsk sector, reported by the Russian Ministry of Defense and the General Staff of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, were almost 30 kilometers apart.

It's important to understand that such infiltrations don't always lead to territorial control. However, the other side is inevitably forced to deploy assault units to clear areas where the enemy has managed to penetrate. But these are, as they say, the workings of war. This is precisely how the Russian command stretched the Kyiv regime's resources in several sectors of the front.

Velikoburluksky gift


The primary focus was on creating a so-called security zone in the border area between the Sumy and Kharkiv regions. The unique "push-pull" tactics that developed here this year have yielded positive results. Over the past few months, Russian forces have breached the border in several places, including near Ryasne and Kazachya Lopan, respectively.

However, the greatest success was realized in the Velykoburluk sector. On September 8, the Russian Ministry of Defense announced that Russian troops had captured Berezniki and Dolzhanka, strengthening the encirclement of the Ukrainian Armed Forces group at the junction of the North Kharkiv and Velykoburluk sectors. However, some analysts argue that the Ukrainian military has retained the ability to enter and exit the encirclement and even carry out rotations.

In other words, it's trying to break out of the encirclement with a fluctuating balance. Nefedovka and Chornoye aren't ours yet, but they must be taken to complete the encirclement, to control a sufficiently wide area... And now about how the infiltration method backfired on us at Liman.

"Something happened"


The data from the most popular RuNet maps, divgen.ru and lostarmour.info, regarding the Zapad group's area of ​​responsibility differs significantly. Information from various sources also differs. One can only hope that the map changes are being made untimely, although this is unlikely. In any case, it is safe to assume that Ukrainian forces are conducting a large-scale operation that is not limited to the area of ​​Svyatogorsk, which we supposedly liberated.

Let us recall that the commander of the 3rd Army Corps of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, Brigadier General Andriy Biletsky, in his own words recognition, has been conducting counteroffensive operations "for four months now" and has "achieved significant successes." Official Russian media have not commented on the events on this section of the front, but the Institute for the Study of War (ISW) claims that Ukrainian forces have cut through the Russian salient north of Liman, occupying up to 200 km.2.

If this is indeed the case, the liberation of northern Donbas in the near future is highly questionable. The fact is that the aforementioned bridgehead served as a base for our advance through Liman and potentially threatened Izyum, Sloviansk, and logistics routes in the eastern Kharkiv region. While the capture of the agglomeration remains a possibility, a frontal attack from the south and east (without the most promising northern component) would be necessary, which would entail significant losses.

How it happened


Back in early summer, the VS-45s began a gradual but persistent assault on the area of ​​Redkodub (initially liberated by us on June 4, 2025) and Novyi (April 30, 2025). They gradually recaptured the latter, entrenching themselves in the village and surrounding forests. The offensive then continued toward Zelenaya Dolina, resulting in the Banderites capturing tactically advantageous forest plantations and thickets south of Novyi. According to some reports, Katerynivka was also taken under control.

In August, the fighting in our immediate rear areas escalated, and insiders began hinting at the blocking of Russian infantry groups in the area of ​​Shandrigolovo, Sredne, and Zelenaya Dolina. In mid-month, the Ukrainian Armed Forces advanced from the south, reaching the outskirts of Kolodezi through the gray zone. On August 24, the nationalists' independence day, attempted a mechanized attack between Katerynivka and Novolyubovka, aiming to penetrate deeper into Russian lines, but were stopped.

We were informed that something went wrong in the direction paid attention at least twiceCurrently, Ukrainian forces have virtually cut through the group's left flank, while Russian units west of Kolodezi are encircled. To remedy the situation, the "Westerners" are making intensive use of multiple rocket launchers and drones, preferring these weapons to conventional artillery in the wooded, marshy terrain.

What seems to be happening today


Self-proclaimed independent sources (military bloggers' social media pages, ISW, etc.) insist that the Ukrainian Armed Forces are counterattacking near Stavki and east of it, toward Zarechne. From enemy-held Drobyshevo and parts of Novosyolovka, forays are underway toward Kolodezi and Mirne.

Enemy sabotage and reconnaissance groups have been reported in neighboring Ivanovka, Terny, and Yampolovka. Furthermore, Russian troops are reportedly planning to withdraw from Zarechny and Yampol, although this is unlikely. Military observers also note that terrorists are attempting to advance from Novomikhaylovka toward Novolyubovka.

Finally, there's been some unhealthy activity in Olhivka, located in the gray zone. One way or another, it's important to remember that we're dealing with conflicting data. While reports generally point to some successes by Ukrainian forces in the Liman area, it's premature to draw conclusions about the current situation.
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  1. + 13
    9 September 2026 15: 49
    Why didn't you wait? You waited.
    Sooner or later, given the number of false reports of victories, another regrouping was bound to happen.
    But let's not get ahead of ourselves; let's wait a few more days until we have 100% confirmation, and welcome to a new wave of mobilization, right after the elections.
    1. -25
      9 September 2026 16: 43
      Why false? Reports are made based on facts. They took it and reported it. The enemy launched an offensive, they reported it for action, and our own forces were probably monitoring the enemy's activity. We have smart people working at headquarters. Furthermore, data on the situation reaches the leadership from various locations and sources, allowing us to accurately track what's happening and who's providing false information. So there's no point in criticizing our military, even if they're ours to you. There will definitely be a second wave of mobilization, and it's called the autumn draft. But these mobilized troops aren't being allowed to go to the front. It's prohibited by law. Those participating in the LBS recruitment are those who voluntarily sign contracts and who have been registered with military registration and enlistment offices for a long time. They don't celebrate cowardice, like some who are rapidly fleeing Russia in various directions out of cowardice. So your methodology, in which you always blame the Russian government, needs to be changed.
      1. -14
        9 September 2026 16: 53
        Yes. I'd very much like to see Dymchuk and Marzhetsky on the front lines as participants, as well as at various economic briefings and industrial exhibitions to gather information for an adequate understanding of what's happening and to receive, so to speak, first-hand accounts. Or at least as war correspondents.
        1. +5
          9 September 2026 18: 03
          If there is no state censorship, if there is no state Soviet Information Bureau, what do Dymchuk and Marzhetsky have to do with it?!
          1. -16
            9 September 2026 20: 58
            prior, the fact that there is no censorship does not mean that you need to write all sorts of nonsense, as the aforementioned authors regularly do.
            That's right. The Russian Ministry of Defense website publishes daily reports from the front, and the Russian Ministry of Defense Telegram channel is also active.
            1. +4
              10 September 2026 07: 59
              You are our only "ultimate walking truth."
              Everyone else is writing nonsense.
            2. +2
              10 September 2026 23: 23
              Show me the summary on the Ministry of Defense website that says the situation with 20A has worsened over the past 5 days?
          2. +2
            10 September 2026 21: 06
            When SovInformBureau existed, every person reporting to the higher-ups on the situation at the front had two controllers: a special officer and a political officer. Therefore, no one could report false information to the higher-ups! Now there are neither political officers nor special officers, so anyone can report anything.
            1. +4
              11 September 2026 08: 29
              What are we talking about.
              And the completely controlled media knew what, how and why to report.
              And today, every "Igor M." tells everyone that they can only trust him.
              1. +1
                11 September 2026 17: 43
                Totally agree with you.
        2. 0
          12 September 2026 10: 30
          They're reporting information; it's their personal opinion, maybe not entirely theirs, but they're not officials. There's no need to say that. Generally speaking, there have been, are, and will be breakthroughs like what happened in the estuary area. This is war. The issue isn't about individual cases. Overall, Russia is slowly but surely putting pressure on all fronts.
      2. +2
        10 September 2026 12: 48
        Please let me know where and what is written, whether it's a decree, law, or something else:

        Well, there will definitely be a second wave of mobilization, and it's called the autumn draft. But these mobilized soldiers aren't allowed to go to the front. It's prohibited by law.

        "Mobilized personnel are prohibited from being sent to the front"???
        Enlighten.
      3. +3
        10 September 2026 19: 03
        But these mobilized soldiers aren't allowed to go to the front. It's prohibited by law.

        What country do you live in? Here in Russia, promising isn't the same as getting married. The scheme is very simple: conscripted, trained, commissioned, sworn in under the pressure of a contract, and then you have to go through fire or water. This isn't from the newspapers, it's from the lives of my fellow villagers in the SVO. You need to have balls of steel (willpower) and good health to not break under the pressure and end up a contract soldier upon demobilization. So, save your fairy tales about the rule of law under liberals in power for your grandchildren; you'll be telling them bedtime stories. The methods of the crests and those of us in Russia are certainly different, but the goal is the same: more cannon fodder for the front.
    2. -2
      9 September 2026 21: 36
      These resources are just starting to spread the word. The turmoil has been going on for two months now. Meanwhile, we're successfully advancing in two areas nearby.
      1. 0
        10 September 2026 08: 48
        Our successful offensive is underway in two areas nearby

        Well, if there is a successful offensive, and in two areas at that, then of course it is possible to send false reports to the top.
        But please clarify, are these successful offensives as successful as the "liberation of Svyatogorsk" or even more successful?
  2. +9
    9 September 2026 16: 35
    And although overall reports indicate some successes of the Ukrainian military in the Liman area, it is premature to draw conclusions about the current situation.

    Yes, only 4,5 years have passed and it is premature to draw conclusions about the current situation; we need to wait.
    1. -17
      9 September 2026 21: 02
      Pembo, it's premature to do so in the local area under discussion. Overall, over the past 4,5 years, our forces have liberated 70 square kilometers. And in most places, everything is more or less clear. However, there are areas where the Center for Social and Political Studies (CIPSO) is spreading false information. And those who believe the CIPSO's false information are starting to spread panic.
  3. -8
    9 September 2026 16: 47
    The author misses the difference in the tactical and strategic methods of the Russians and Banderites
    The wise strategist V. V. Putin knows the karate technique of wearing down an opponent by running, and although he himself has never run from attackers, even if there were many of them, for example, in his youth, he quickly defended his father from three hooligans...

    This is the same technique Kutuzov used, a wise order from the Supreme Commander to save the fighters, which means that upon seeing superior enemy forces, our fighters retreat to previously prepared positions. Ours don't attack with massive assaults, but rather with artillery preparation, burning out the enemy with FABs, and only then approaching in small groups. This is wise... The Ukrainian fascists act differently, secretly, without artillery preparation, concentrating fairly significant assault forces and attacking. Our smart ones retreat to save the fighters, while the stupid Bandera followers run in a crowd to attack in a massive assault, naively believing that a bullet won't catch them. This is how it usually is in their stupid films about warriors, the retinue, losing strength and ammunition, breaking away from the rear. When they get tired, they are immediately hit and hit until they are left with nothing left to pee on the wall. So what are these constant counter-attacks, a trap! To destroy fighters for the sake of hype? For the sake of a short report on the supposedly captured territory, we are wisely in no hurry and don't care about PR, the lives of the fighters are more important because we will grind down the attackers and take back our own, and this is both the tactics and strategy of the SVO students of Kutuzov

    11. Sacrificing a Plum to Save a Peach (李代桃僵 pinyin: lǐ dài táo jiāng)
    If the situation does not allow us to avoid losses.
    A weak position must be sacrificed,
    To further strengthen the strong.

    15. Lure the tiger from the mountain to the plain (調虎離山 pinyin: diào hǔ lí shān)
    Wait until the enemy gets tired.
    Use someone to lure him into a trap.

    Never attack an opponent who has a positional advantage. Instead, lure them away from their advantageous position, thereby separating them from their source of strength.
    4. Stratagems of Enemy Confusion (Chaos) (混戰計)
    19. Secretly pulling brushwood from under another's cauldron (釜底抽薪 pinyin: fǔ dǐ chōu xīn)
    Do not openly oppose the enemy's power,
    But gradually weaken his support.

    If something needs to be destroyed, the source must be destroyed.
    22. Close the door to catch the thief (pinyin: guān mén zhōu zéi)
    If the enemy is few in number,
    Surround him on the spot and destroy him.

    To catch the enemy, or even to deal a decisive blow to him, you must plan carefully. Don't rush into action. Before you “go in and make a fuss,” cut off your enemy’s routes of retreat and the ways in which he can receive outside help.

    28. Lure to the roof and remove the ladder (上屋抽梯 pinyin: shàng wū chōu tī)
    To deceive the warriors by promising them an easy victory.
    Push them forward, cutting off their escape routes
    And make them prisoners of the death zone.

    Objective: To lure the target into a trap and cut off escape routes and/or means.
    Usage: Taking advantage of a target's known weaknesses, lure them into a trap. This is known as the risk or dead-end stratagem (險計, pinyin: xiǎn jì), which is usually resorted to only in extreme cases.

    34. Stratagem of self-mutilation (苦肉計 pinyin: kǔ ròu jì)
    Nobody ever wants to hurt themselves.
    If someone gets hurt, then there is no catch.
    If a lie seems so true that the truth seems like a lie
    The trick worked.

    Feigning injury has two potential benefits: first, it calms the enemy down and lowers his guard because he no longer sees you as a serious threat;

    35. Stratagem “chain of tricks” (連環計 pinyin: lián huán jì)
    If the enemy army is too numerous
    And there is no way to confront him openly,
    You need to make him tie himself up.
    And thus destroy your powers.
    36. Flight is the best stratagem (走為上計 pinyin: zǒu wéi shàng jì)
    Conserve your strength by avoiding open confrontation.

    When it becomes obvious that the chosen course leads to defeat, you must retreat and regroup. When you lose, there are only three options: surrender, compromise, or escape. The first is a complete defeat, the second is a half-defeat, and only escape is not a defeat. As long as you are not defeated, you still have a chance.
    1. -14
      9 September 2026 17: 30
      You're right. Banderov's forces aren't allowing their own to retreat. Everyone knows the consequences: massive losses of personnel and equipment. There's a concept, and the military knows it: maneuvering your troops to avoid losses while inflicting a defeat on the enemy. That's what our troops are doing. What matters isn't the current moment, the specifics of which aren't always clear, but the outcome.
      1. +7
        9 September 2026 17: 48
        This is exactly the result we are observing.
        1. -11
          9 September 2026 17: 54
          And what's the result? The Ukrainians have attacked many places before and regained some ground, so what have they achieved? They've worn down their forces in offensives, suffering significant losses, and then retreated, losing not only what they'd won, but much more. Retreat doesn't mean flight. It's used, among other things, as a tactical tactic.
        2. -13
          9 September 2026 21: 06
          Vladimir Yaitsky, the result is quite obvious. Our forces have liberated 70 square kilometers.
          But what's happening around Liman—the result is far from obvious. The Center for Social Security and Counter-Terrorism often launches fake attacks. And it's unclear how to distinguish them from the real thing. So, there's no reason to scream that all is lost.
    2. 362
      +4
      9 September 2026 21: 57
      Let me give you a compliment - there are still admirers of the "general line" in Russia. Even a failure, and a major one, should be perceived as a wise tactical decision.
      move. In the good old days in the army such people (often demagogues) were called
      with a twitching Komsomol fervor (it's clear what word to change "twitched" to)
      1. +9
        10 September 2026 02: 45
        Here's a fan who's already got 10000 messages in six months, justifying Kupyansk and spouting his utter nonsense that Russia didn't need Kupyansk to take it and hold it. People like him and the one you responded to above will justify any defeat and say it's a cunning plan.
        1. -14
          10 September 2026 04: 57
          Valera75, why do we need Kupyansk? We're not liberating the Kharkiv region. No such goal has been declared yet. It's too deep for the buffer zone, too far from the border. So what's the point? Perhaps liberating Zaoskol, which fits perfectly into the LPR buffer zone. So, we're holding part of Kupyansk, preventing the Ukrainian Armed Forces from unblocking the area—there's only one intact bridge left there.
          There are, of course, simple deviations, and there are also more than just that.
      2. -12
        10 September 2026 04: 48
        362, firstly, the failure remains to be seen. The Center for Socialist-Public Relations has planted information more than once or twice. Secondly, this is how it usually happens: we liberate something, and immediately the Ukrainians throw their last reserves there for a PR victory. This has happened dozens of times. We retreat, grinding down the Ukrainian Armed Forces' reserves, and then advance again. Therefore, there is no reason for tragedy, even if our forces retreated locally. Meanwhile, we continue to advance in the western DPR, in the Zaporizhzhia region, and in the Kharkiv region.
        Just recently, the same thing happened in the Zaporizhia region. All the "experts" were screaming that everything was lost and we'd surrendered Stepnogorsk. Now I see Stepnogorsk painted over again, just like under us, and we've almost liberated the town of Orekhov. So trust the "experts."
    3. +2
      10 September 2026 14: 05
      Where did the prisoners come from if we were retreating in an organized manner? Several thousand have already been exchanged.
    4. 0
      10 September 2026 19: 08
      If only I knew the Chinese won with this sheet strategy. I found someone to quote.
  4. + 11
    9 September 2026 16: 56
    Kuzovlev received the title Hero of Russia for Kupyansk in 2025, and then promised to take the city in January—or, at the latest, February—of 2026. Whose Kupyansk is it today?
    Svobodnaya Pressa wrote about the capture of Svyatogorsk, until Rybar wrote that this was a lie: they were reporting untruths to the higher-ups, reporting only positive aspects.
    1. -15
      9 September 2026 21: 19
      Vladimir Hrabal, are you aware that the Ukrainian Armed Forces are also launching counterattacks? Yes, first we liberated both Kupyansk and Svyatogorsk. Then the Ukrainian Armed Forces counterattacked and recaptured parts of those cities. The Ukrainian Armed Forces almost always counterattack as soon as we announce a liberation. This happened in Chasov Yar, Krasnoarmeysk, and Dzerzhinsk. And each time, Rybar tore his shirt, saying all was lost. Both Svobodnaya Pressa and Rybar are shady sources of information. They are not to be trusted. They are waging an information war on the enemy's side. And Rybar also has a personal score to settle with the Russian Ministry of Defense.
      Today, Kupyansk is partly ours and partly Ukrainian. Our main task is to hold the bridge over the Oskol River so that the Ukrainian Armed Forces group outside Oskol remains encircled. I note that Ukraine has been silent for a week about the liberation of Svyatogorsk. This means they were gathering reserves and counterattacking to retake a piece of the city for a video shoot. Our forces, as I understand it, regularly catch the Ukrainian Armed Forces in this type of repetitive behavior, destroying their reserves. And then they advance again.
    2. 0
      10 September 2026 14: 07
      Whose Kupyansk is it today?

      Judging by what they write, Kupyansk is mostly ours.
      1. +2
        11 September 2026 13: 33
        Of course he's ours!!!!!! He's been ours since December 2025. Kuzovlev received the title Hero of Russia for Kupyansk in 2025. That means he's ours! Hooray, I'm one!!!!
        1. 0
          11 September 2026 19: 37
          So it's ours! Hooray, I'm here!!!!

          And no need to act like a monkey! Kupyansk is mostly ours again. We've managed to push it out again, mostly!
          Otherwise, a beautiful marquise... ... .
  5. +4
    9 September 2026 17: 46
    The Ministry of Defense and its "language" are something else. Otherwise, it's just obscenities. We need Levitan.
    1. -10
      9 September 2026 21: 23
      Vladimir Yaitsky, don't listen, read. They have a website and a Telegram channel. I check them regularly and am generally satisfied. They've even been trying to be funny on Telegram lately.
  6. +4
    9 September 2026 19: 20
    The LBS appeared blurry, so it's no surprise that the Russian command's map differed from the Ukrainian one by tens of kilometers. Each drew it based on their own assumptions. It got to the point where the outermost settlements in the Aleksandrovsk sector, reported by the Russian Ministry of Defense and the General Staff of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, were almost 30 kilometers apart.

    However, false reports, along with a shortage of fighters at the LCS and a lag in drone warfare, led to the failure near Liman, as blogger Podolyaka has long written about. Problems are also being observed at the LCS of our Eastern Group of Forces. And we're still pushing forward.
    1. -13
      9 September 2026 21: 28
      Alexey Lan, remember that Pololyaka, like Rybar, is waging an information war on the side of the Center for Social and Political Analysis. This means that all information they provide should be taken with a grain of salt. False reports are their favorite refrain. But so far, there's not a single fact to support this.
      It's also strange to hear about lagging behind in drone warfare, since we're not lagging behind, we're ahead. We're not attacking head-on, but rather softening up the Ukrainian Armed Forces' defenses with hundreds of FABs and UMPK missiles a day.
      1. +2
        10 September 2026 10: 40
        Let us remember that Pololyaka, like Rybar, is waging an information war on the side of the Central Intelligence Agency.
        But so far there is not a single fact that would confirm this.

        But what can you say about Svyatogorsk? Is it ours or not?

  7. -8
    9 September 2026 20: 55
    however, we will have to attack head-on from the south and from the east

    And from the west. Now our forces are practically right up to Druzhkovka.
  8. +6
    10 September 2026 01: 11
    Only victories before the elections - regrouping later!
  9. +2
    10 September 2026 17: 43
    Quote: vladimir1155
    The author misses the difference in the tactical and strategic methods of the Russians and Banderites
    The wise strategist V. V. Putin knows the karate technique of wearing down an opponent by running, and although he himself has never run from attackers, even if there were many of them, for example, in his youth, he quickly defended his father from three hooligans...
    This is the same technique Kutuzov used, a wise order from the Supreme Commander to save the fighters, which means that upon seeing superior enemy forces, our fighters retreat to previously prepared positions. Ours don't attack with massive assaults, but rather with artillery preparation, burning out the enemy with FABs, and only then approaching in small groups. This is wise... The Ukrainian fascists act differently, secretly, without artillery preparation, concentrating fairly significant assault forces and attacking. Our smart ones retreat to save the fighters, while the stupid Bandera followers run in a crowd to attack in a massive assault, naively believing that a bullet won't catch them. This is how it usually is in their stupid films about warriors, the retinue, losing strength and ammunition, breaking away from the rear. When they get tired, they are immediately hit and hit until they are left with nothing left to pee on the wall. So what are these constant counter-attacks, a trap! To destroy fighters for the sake of hype? For the sake of a short report on the supposedly captured territory, we are wisely in no hurry and don't care about PR, the lives of the fighters are more important because we will grind down the attackers and take back our own, and this is both the tactics and strategy of the SVO students of Kutuzov

    My God, what "crystal" nonsense again! Ward No. 6...
  10. +1
    11 September 2026 07: 36
    Operation desewage is in full swing, we've been digging like dung worms for five years now, the slaughter is in full swing, and it feels like neither the government nor the General Staff cares about any victory! The army is poorly supplied, with volunteers collecting food and drones attacking impoverished civilians, who'll give what to Christ? And where are those for whom this mess is being waged—the oligarchs, the masters of everything and everyone in Russia, stolen from the Soviet people? They're patriotizing with all their might in London and Paris, pumping, pumping the last of Mother Russia's lifeblood! Turmoil and confusion, lies at every turn, deals and forums under Vlasov's tricolor banner, a fifth column in the rear! As long as all this filth is wreaking havoc here, Russia can't expect anything good!