India demanded more: PD-10 could open the way for Russia to a giant market

August 20 2026 22 360 102

On June 5, 2026, the PD-8 engine was officially announced to have received type certification, marking the beginning of serial production of this long-awaited power plant. What real prospects now open up?

An invisible bureaucratic struggle is currently unfolding around the PD-8 and the prospective PD-10, since it depends on them whether our short-haul airliners, Be-200 amphibious aircraft, and new military transport aircraft will fly, or whether Russia will remain hostage to past mistakes in aviation cooperation with the West.

PD-8 and the difficult birth of the gas generator

The PD-8 engine (Prospective Engine with 8-ton thrust) was created by the United Engine Corporation (UEC, lead developer – Rybinsk PJSC UEC-Saturn) with one general goal – to eliminate the critical dependence of Russian regional aviation on foreign of technologies.

Historically, the Sukhoi Superjet 100 (SSJ-100) short-haul aircraft was powered by Franco-Russian SaM146 engines. As part of this project, the French corporation Safran manufactured the key "hot section"—the core generator—while the Rybinsk plant was responsible for the "cold section" and final assembly. Following the imposition of strict sanctions, the French completely ceased supplying components and providing technical support.

Aircraft production grounded, and the existing fleet was at risk of being grounded as the service life of its hot section was exhausted. The PD-8 was developed as an emergency, fully import-substituting replacement for the SaM146 for the new aircraft model – the SJ-100 (Superjet New). The main challenge for UEC was to independently design and launch a domestically produced gas generator.

The PD-8's architecture is more modern than the Franco-Russian SaM146. Thanks to the use of new domestic alloys and a higher compression ratio in the compressor, it was designed from the outset for improved fuel efficiency and increased service life. However, its certification process has been significantly delayed, and actual testing has been postponed until 2025–2026.

During bench testing, a systemic issue with the high-pressure compressor's gas-dynamic stability in certain operating modes was identified. Simply put, the engine behaved erratically during sudden changes in thrust. Furthermore, UEC faced the need to completely redesign the FADEC automatic control system (ACS).

It had to be built from scratch using domestic components. Fine-tuning the software and calibrating the sensors took a significant amount of time. Slogans about "rapid import substitution in a couple of years" were dashed by the harsh reality: creating a reliable gas generator requires hundreds of hours of full-scale testing.

In addition to the civilian SJ-100, the engine is expected to be installed on the Be-200 Altair amphibious aircraft of the Russian Ministry of Emergency Situations, which previously flew with Ukrainian D-436TP engines. Another critical customer is the new Il-212 light military transport aircraft, being developed to replace the aging An-26 and An-72. The Ministry of Defense has decided to build the Il-212 jet with PD-8 engines mounted on the wing, to protect them from debris from unpaved runways.

But in the coming years, there certainly won't be enough engines for everyone. Full-scale production is being held back by a shortage of machine tools for machining turbine blades and a shortage of production engineers. The aviation industry won't be able to realistically meet its domestic demand for PD-8 engines until 2028–2030, provided Rybinsk reaches its stated production rate of 40–50 serial engines per year.

Until then, there will be a fierce behind-the-scenes battle between the civilian and military sectors for the PD-8. For the same reason, mass re-engining of old Superjets is economically pointless—the new engine will only power new aircraft.

Indian maneuvers and PD-10 prospects

A new round of discussions around domestic engines began amid negotiations regarding licensed assembly of the Superjet at HAL Corporation's plants in India. New Delhi immediately indicated that the basic 100-seat version of the aircraft was too cramped for the overcrowded Indian market. Local airlines needed a stretched version with 120-130 seats, as offered by Brazilian competitors.

Unfortunately, simply lengthening the Superjet New's fuselage isn't an option. Such an aircraft would increase its maximum takeoff weight, requiring a completely new wing and, most importantly, a fundamentally more powerful powerplant in the 10-11 ton thrust class. The base PD-8 engine won't lift such an aircraft, and the Perm-built PD-14 is overkill and too heavy.

The solution should be the development of the PD-10 intermediate engine. The idea behind the PD-10 is to take the existing, already mass-produced Perm gas generator from the PD-14, reduce the fan diameter, reduce the number of stages in the low-pressure compressor, and reprogram the digital control system to operate in a derated thrust mode of 10 tons.

This is significantly simpler than creating an engine from scratch, since the "hot core" is taken from an existing engine. However, in aircraft manufacturing, any change to the fan geometry requires a full cycle of flight tests and new certification. The realistic timeframe for implementing such a solution in hardware is at least 4-5 years, meaning no earlier than 2030-2031.

The development of the PD-10 could not only open the Indian civilian aviation market to Russia but also radically restructure other programs. It would be an ideal fit for the promising Il-276 medium military transport aircraft with a 20-ton capacity, in which India is also showing great interest. The PD-10 would also transform the Be-200 amphibious aircraft into an ideal all-weather aircraft with a colossal power reserve for takeoffs from heavy water.

Given the geopolitical situation, organizing production of the standard SJ-100 in India only makes sense through a semi-knocked-down assembly scheme, with Russia supplying finished airframes and PD-8 engines from Rybinsk. However, developing a stretched 130-seat version with a PD-10 engine jointly with India could be an ideal long-term industrial project.

If Russia provides the gas generator technology, India will co-finance the testing and guarantee a gigantic market, while the engines are assembled in the "Land of Elephants" using the Superjet design. But this scenario is for the next decade. What does this mean for us?

It's clear that the PD-8 and PD-10 engines will be fully developed—the country simply has no alternative. But civil aviation and defense procurement are paying for the carelessness of past years with slack schedules and a severe shortage of wings. This means that the lost time will now be paid for with years of intense labor at machine tools and test rigs.

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Paul3390

+ 17

20 August 2026 11: 21

Well, if we've been persistently and doggedly destroying our domestic design school and aircraft industry for 30 years, expecting miracles anytime soon is, at the very least, strange. Money isn't a magic elixir; it won't solve everything overnight. Alas, our higher-ups seem to have failed to understand this.
1. ZovSailor
  
  + 13
  
  20 August 2026 14: 42
  
  We need more reliable partners than gypsies and other freeloaders.
  They are still for oil, the Su-57 has not fully paid with their worthless rupees, which weigh heavily on the Russian banking system.
  With partners like these, you don't even need enemies; they'll take you down and undress you at any moment, just like their former colonizers, who were shaved close-shaven.
  1. Igor M.
    
    -11
    
    20 August 2026 17: 52
    
    ZovSailor, remember that India has been paying Russia in yuan and Emirati dirhams for a long time.
    1. aslanxnumx
      
      +3
      
      20 August 2026 18: 24
      
      I don't remember, you remember.
    2. svoroponov
      
      -13
      
      20 August 2026 19: 53
      
      Igor. There's no knowledge in the condemnation here. Some forum members are tasked with trashing the Russian government. And that's exactly what they're doing. Some aren't Russian and have no idea what's really going on in Russia or what it's already accomplished. Some are resentful of fate and have achieved nothing in life, some are simply making money by trashing Russia without delving into the subject, and some aren't well-educated and therefore simply can't make an informed assessment, but they still want to speak out. Well, what can you do? That's the crowd here.
      1. aslanxnumx
        
        +7
        
        20 August 2026 20: 54
        
        Why criticize the Russian government? It has already shown itself in such a way that it makes your hair stand on end.
        What have you achieved in life if you think that others have achieved nothing?
        Your Gosha here boasted that he had been to Switzerland, but it turned out he had only seen it in a picture.
        Like, he recently retired, which means he’s 63 years old, and at that age he shouldn’t be in the trenches, just in case.
        Well, you are the kind of content that wants to suck up to the authorities. Wherever you lick
      2. Igor M.
        
        -9
        
        20 August 2026 22: 20
        
        svoroponov, that's why I think it's important to explain how things really are.
    3. lord-palladore-11045
      
      +6
      
      20 August 2026 20: 04
      
      Igor M. - go write your worthless doctoral dissertation and don't interfere with your elders' communication.
      1. Igor M.
        
        -9
        
        20 August 2026 22: 21
        
        lord-pallador-11045, well, you're not just talking, you're lying and throwing mud at my homeland.
    4. Ron
      
      +1
      
      21 August 2026 10: 49
      
      Let them pay in Mongolian tugriks. Ostap Bender was ready to be paid in cash, but what's wrong with Russia?
    5. oao
      
      0
      
      9 September 2026 00: 54
      
      Well, just remember that. Most people need to apply current to the fan here.
  2. Botrops
    
    -4
    
    21 August 2026 10: 15
    
    I'll just note that India is the world's third-largest economy and has surpassed China in industrial development. What other partners do you need? And the rupee has long since found a use. Investments are being made in various Indian projects, the profits from which, by no means only in rupees, will be received by the Russian Federation.
    1. wladimirjankov
      
      +3
      
      21 August 2026 14: 04
      
      Rupees have long since found a use. They're investing in various Indian projects, the profits from which, by no means exclusively in rupees, will accrue to the Russian Federation.
      
      Why should we invest in Indian, Turkish, European, or other projects? Don't we need to invest in our own country? Our leaders have already invested 300 billion euros in Europe. Lukoil, Rosneft, Gazprom, and other monopolistic organizations have also invested in the European Union, Serbia, Iraq, and elsewhere. And we all know where these investments are now, the profits from them, and how it all ended. The same could happen to our investments in India. They'll pressure them with threats of sanctions, and they'll force us to give up all our investments in their economy for next to nothing. We need to invest in our own country, in our own economy, industry, army, and navy. We have "uncultivated fields" in these areas.
      1. Botrops
        
        -3
        
        21 August 2026 15: 11
        
        Well, they froze 300 billion. So they lost more. Both Siluanov and Volodin claimed that Russia had 500 billion in Western investment. And they, too, froze it. Moreover, Russia, in response to this, nationalized the military-industrial complex and critical sectors of the economy, introducing external management over Western firms involved in these sectors. This, incidentally, allowed for a rapid increase in arms production. Europe's freezing of 350 billion also dealt a blow to the dollar, prompting several BRICS countries to begin trading in national currencies (which is where Russia got its rupees) and shrinking the dollar space. Furthermore, it dealt a blow to the image of the West, which has repeatedly demonstrated its scorn for outright theft and raises the question: is it safe to invest in its economy? And what did Europe get? A suitcase without a handle? One it doesn't know what to do with. As a result of this combination, the Russian Federation received so many bonuses that I am already beginning to wonder whether the Russian Federation deliberately "forgot" these billions, knowing that the West would swallow the bait, which it has already done more than once, freezing funds from Iran.
        In India's case, in return for the investments and income generated, we can use those same rupees to buy Indian goods. Indians have a lot to offer: medicine and pharmaceuticals, chemicals, electronics, agriculture, textiles, mechanical engineering, and metallurgy. In short, there's plenty to spend those rupees on.
    2. ZovSailor
      
      +3
      
      21 August 2026 21: 16
      
      And why should we invest in other people's projects, with the risk of profit or loss?
      And we need money now and here for the goods we delivered.
      1. Botrops
        
        -3
        
        22 August 2026 11: 08
        
        Well, that's one of the laws of capitalism: invest in a project to profit from it later. They invest in us, too. I wrote earlier that about 500 billion rubles of Western investment is frozen in Russia. In December 25, at the Delhi Air Show, an agreement was signed, for example, to localize Superjet production in India. Not only that, but they're transferring its production technology, something the US never does. But Russia benefits directly from this project. With aging Boeings and Airbuses in need of replacement, Superjets can be purchased from India if needed. And perhaps, in terms of patent fees, one or two of the 10 aircraft produced in India will be Russian. I don't know how exactly they agreed.
2. u-58
  
  0
  
  20 August 2026 14: 45
  
  Our leaders have already realized this, but firstly, they are very reluctant to publicly acknowledge the mistakes in aircraft manufacturing policy, which the Bolshevik-Communists have been ranting about from the State Duma rostrum for 30 years. Secondly, funding alone won't produce either an engine or an aircraft, because that requires real people, an engineering school, and a professional training institute at all levels. Everyone fancies themselves a director, but few know how to be a turner, a mechanic, or a CNC operator.
  1. Igor M.
    
    -10
    
    20 August 2026 17: 58
    
    Our top brass realized this almost immediately after Putin's arrival in office. They immediately began designing new aircraft: the Sukhoi Superjet 100 (2000-2001), the MS-21 (2007), the Il-114-300 (2015), and the Il-96-400M (2016). The Il-76 was relocated to production in 2012.
    
    The design of the Su-57 fighter (PAK FA/T-50 project) has begun as part of a new stage in 2002 year, when the Sukhoi Design Bureau won the state tender of the Russian Ministry of Defense.
    
    Design of the modern multirole, super-maneuverable Su-35 fighter (product T-10BM) began in the early 2000s at the Sukhoi Design Bureau as a major upgrade of the Su-27 platform to the 4++ generation. The official decision to resume and actively develop the aircraft was made in 2005.
3. Igor M.
  
  -10
  
  20 August 2026 17: 46
  
  Paul3390, firstly, the collapse of the USSR was a force majeure event. And yet, it was precisely this that led to the collapse of all complex production chains, including those for aircraft production. As Sergey would write, it was due to the "carelessness of past years." Our ancestors didn't think about the impending collapse of the Soviet Union, so they built factories and educational institutions in all the Soviet republics. For example, the Riga Red Banner Institute of Civil Aviation Engineers was located in Latvia. I once lived in the institute's dormitory during my internship.
  Secondly, Russia lost the remnants of its former luxury in the 90s, under Yeltsin.
  But then, with the arrival of Putin, they started to restore everything againLiterally from the first year. For example,
  
  Design of the Sukhoi Superjet 100 passenger aircraft has begun. in 2000-2001, when the Sukhoi holding company began preliminary work, and the Russian government officially funded the start of the program to create a regional aircraft, initially known as the RRJ (Russian Regional Jet).
  
  The design of the Russian medium-range aircraft MS-21 ("Long-range aircraft of the 21st century") has officially been started in 2007, when the start of the creation of a new family of passenger liners was announced, and the active phase and working design began at the turn of 2007–2011.
  
  United States of America resumed production of the Il-76 heavy transport aircraft in 2012, transferring it from Tashkent, Uzbekistan, to the Aviastar plant in Ulyanovsk. The first flight prototype of the extensively modernized Russian-assembled Il-76MD-90A aircraft made its maiden flight in September 2012.
  
  The resumption of work and the launch of the project for a deeply modernized Russian version of the Il-114-300 have been officially announced. in November 2015 yearsThe first flight of the updated prototype took place on December 16, 2020.
  
  Practical work on the Il-96-400M passenger aircraft project started in May 2016when a fundamental decision on its development was made at the state level
  
  Well, work on the Tu-214 did not stop even during the most difficult times for Russia.
  So, our superiors understand everything perfectly, unlike you.
  1. prior
    
    +7
    
    20 August 2026 18: 28
    
    With Putin's arrival, they started to restore everything again.
    
    As I write this, migrant workers from Asia are "restoring" the curbs and asphalt beneath my window, which they installed and laid two years ago. There's not a single crack or scratch on it yet. And it's due for replacement. Such is Putinomics.
    This is at a time when the country is at war, and television collects pennies from the people many times a day for the treatment of sick children.
    
    our higher-ups understand everything perfectly well
    
    what they do, but they do.
    There is no point in complaining about such a mess, and there is no one to complain to.
    Unless you want Igorsha.
    1. svoroponov
      
      -6
      
      20 August 2026 19: 59
      
      Why aren't you among the Asian builders? Age? Oh well. By the way, the replacement is being carried out by order of the local authorities, the ones you chose. Contact the prosecutor's office and point out that they're trading one thing for another. What are you writing here, crying? There are legal measures to stop all this. So do it. This is called feedback to the authorities, and it works.
      Putin and the supreme power can't control every local authority elected by you, or rather, by local citizens, to govern life in your area of residence. You can't even control everything within your own family. Well, as a last resort, just write to the Presidential Reception Office. But it's still better to go through the prosecutor's office in your area.
      1. Igor M.
        
        -6
        
        20 August 2026 22: 23
        
        Svoroponov, it's time to change the borders to the fall collection. Otherwise, why are we walking around like idiots on the old ones?
    2. kapitan92
      
      +5
      
      21 August 2026 00: 28
      
      As I write this, migrant workers from Asia are "restoring" the curbs and asphalt beneath my window, which they installed and laid two years ago. There's not a single crack or scratch on it yet. And it's due for replacement. Such is Putinomics.
      
      Elections. Elections...as Shnur sang. The party needs money! I have the same thing, they replace a good curb with a new one. The plan needs to be met. If you've noticed, the ad blocks have doubled in length; that's also part of the plan.
      
      Quote: prior
      This is at a time when the country is at war, and television collects pennies from the people many times a day for the treatment of sick children.
      
      Oh yeah! Meanwhile, all the tickets for the black-bottomed star's concert are sold out. Prices range from 16000 to 4,5 million rubles. A feast during the plague!
      
      Quote: prior
      There is no point in complaining about such a mess, and there is no one to complain to.
      
      Alas. That's all true.
  2. aslanxnumx
    
    +1
    
    20 August 2026 18: 31
    
    Dude, when they told Putin about the achievements of the MS-21 compared to other Airbuses, they forgot one small detail.
    The opponent, Airbus, has been in production since 1988 and more than 12,000 aircraft have been produced.
    1. svoroponov
      
      -7
      
      20 August 2026 20: 11
      
      Did France experience a national collapse like ours? And did many industries remain abroad and then simply be destroyed, or were connections severed?
      Before writing, you need to take into account or analyze the conditions in which the country finds itself; in short, you need to read more on the topic and increase your knowledge.
      Now everything's been rebuilt, and production volumes are only a matter of time. The aviation industry has been revived—that's the main thing.
      1. aslanxnumx
        
        +4
        
        20 August 2026 21: 06
        
        Dude. After the collapse of the USSR, there were many aircraft factories in Russia producing civilian aircraft, but the current government didn't need these planes; it's easier to buy them.
        Thank God that it was impossible to buy combat aircraft, otherwise the plant would have been closed.
        
        Igor M.
        
        -5
        
        20 August 2026 22: 32
        
        aslan642, dude,
        1. In the 90s, Russian design bureaus and factories were closed.
        2. Europe imposed an official ban on Russian aircraft flying into its airports on April 1, 2002, due to their allegedly excessive noise levels. Thus, the design of new aircraft had to begin.
        3. USSR production cooperation covered all the country's republics. In particular, aircraft were produced in Ukraine, Uzbekistan, and Georgia.
    2. rotkiv04
      
      0
      
      21 August 2026 10: 28
      
      Don't interfere with him working through the manual; the man wants money and has no time to think with his head.
  3. Paul3390
    
    +6
    
    20 August 2026 20: 34
    
    Hmm... Well, let's look at Comrade Stalin. He assumed real power sometime around 1930. Add in the 26 years of the current guarantor—it's 1956. During this time, Joseph Vissarionovich carried out industrialization, collectivization, won the most difficult war in our history, and almost lived to see the first space mission. Leaving behind a superpower. That's what you can accomplish in a quarter of a century, if you really want to...
    
    So, shall we compare achievements? Or shall we remain silent to avoid embarrassment?
    1. Igor M.
      
      -8
      
      20 August 2026 22: 53
      
      Paul3390, I just found a foreign article comparing Puktin and Stalin:
      
      Like Stalin, Putin not only consolidated his power domestically but also revived Russia's position as a formidable force in global politics. After Lenin and Stalin, Russia's glory reached its zenith under Putin's rule. Stalin ruled the Soviet Union for nearly three decades, from 1924 to 1953, transforming it into a superpower through ruthless political purges, military expansion, and industrialization. Putin, whose rise to power occurred against the backdrop of the collapse of the Soviet Union, has followed a very similar path. Both leaders overcame periods of national upheaval, rebuilt military might, consolidated political control, and challenged Western hegemony.
      Russia's modern tsar not only restored military might and political stability within the country but also influenced its place in the world. Just as Stalin rebuilt the Soviet Union after the devastation of World War II, Putin led Russia out of the post-Soviet crisis and transformed it into a dominant force on the global stage. Whether he will go down in history as a hero or a harsh autocrat, one thing is certain: Putin's legacy is etched in the annals of Russian history, and his reign is not yet over.
      
      1. Let us remember that Stalin did not put the finishing touches on the Banderites; the war with them continued until 1960. And the current military actions are, among other things, a consequence of Stalin’s unfinished work.
      But Putin has already ended two wars with victory: the second Chechen war and the North Caucasus Military District in Georgia.
      And besides Chechnya, he returned Crimea and the LPR and DPR to Russia
      2. Putin also carried out the second industrialization and collectivization of Russia's agriculture. He took over a country with its industry and agriculture virtually destroyed. Therefore, he was forced to restore everything and bring it to a new level. In particular, Russia not only became self-sufficient but is now the world's largest food exporter. In terms of export revenue, it is comparable to gas sales.
      3. It was under Putin that Russia's space industry was rebuilt. In particular, the new Vostochny Cosmodrome was built. New launch vehicles were developed, and Russia now has its own independent global navigation system, GLONASS, its own reconnaissance and remote sensing satellites, its own scientific and weather satellites—the Spektr-RG space telescope operates 1,5 million kilometers from Earth—and its own communications satellites. Russia launched six modules to the International Space Station, which is supported primarily by Russian efforts.
      Russia has one of two global systems of space control.
      4. It was Putin who restored Russia's superpower status. So, of course, let's compare. Putin's team has a huge number of achievements:
      - historically maximum standard of living of the population
      - historically maximum gold reserves
      - historically minimal number of prisoners
      - historically minimal infant mortality
      - private ownership of land has become a universal right - in Russia there are about 45 million landowners, including garden plots and household plots.
      Russia offers complete freedom of travel abroad and movement within the country. Russian citizens can enter as many as 100 countries visa-free. Another 50 require visas.
      Last year, 90 million tourist trips were purchased within the country - a historical record, and 30 million citizens traveled abroad.
      
      Russia has transformed itself in two and a half decades: from a dysfunctional post-Soviet wreck with rampant crime to a disciplined and relatively prosperous society where people are genuinely proud to be Russian.
kot711

+ 14

20 August 2026 11: 39

or will Russia remain hostage to past mistakes in aviation cooperation with the West?
I wonder who did this?
1. Ales
  
  +6
  
  20 August 2026 12: 56
  
  "Igor" must answer this question.
  1. Igor M.
    
    -11
    
    20 August 2026 18: 01
    
    Ales, thanks for the ad. Russia followed the then-current trend toward a global division of labor. For example, Airbus's production cooperation involves 30 countries, while Boeing's involves even more—a whopping 50.
    1. aslanxnumx
      
      +2
      
      20 August 2026 18: 36
      
      Since 2014, Airbus has produced more than 400 A 321.
      Airbus produces 700 aircraft per year.
      And it’s unlikely that we’ll catch up.
      1. svoroponov
        
        -5
        
        20 August 2026 20: 23
        
        There's no point in comparing us and those who've never been subject to sanctions or restrictions. While we're producing little, life goes on. China was once a relatively backward country, but now it's ahead of the rest. This didn't happen in a year, so there's still a long way to go. Boeing, too, is a big company. Where is it now with its current volumes? Airbus also lost some orders, and what you mentioned is just a figure, but whether they'll actually produce them is questionable. And protectionism hasn't been abolished. For now, the "if they don't take it, we'll cut off the gas" approach is unfortunately still in full swing.
        
        Igor M.
        
        -6
        
        20 August 2026 22: 59
        
        Svoroponov, while remembering that both airlines produce aircraft from Russian titanium.
    2. Paul3390
      
      +3
      
      20 August 2026 20: 37
      
      You shouldn't follow trends, but rather use your brain at least sometimes! This is especially true when governing a country.
      1. Igor M.
        
        -9
        
        20 August 2026 23: 00
        
        Paul3390, that's why we have everything in abundance in Russia now. For the first time, we have normal leadership that puts our interests first.
twice-born

+ 11

20 August 2026 11: 44

How long can we look back and hope for this corrupt India in the aviation industry?! They recently completely abandoned the two-seat Su-57 project, which was primarily developed for them.
Well, thank God, it will be very useful for us ourselves!
Over the past 20-25 years, India, completely under the control of the arrogant Saxons, has repeatedly demonstrated that it wants everything at once, the most secret, and for free from us! Just like gypsies. Such a buyer, much less a business partner, is completely unnecessary!
1. AlexSam
  
  + 11
  
  20 August 2026 12: 53
  
  India can then be held responsible for the fact that our officials and top managers in the aviation industry will once again shit themselves (but the budgets will be embezzled, that’s sacred).
  1. twice-born
    
    +5
    
    20 August 2026 14: 37
    
    I agree. In this scenario, such a "partner" is very beneficial to our nouveau riche! They should always have a scapegoat, and they do!
  2. svoroponov
    
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    20 August 2026 22: 08
    
    When did you wake up? Our people have been producing the Su-57 independently for quite some time now and have even started selling it abroad. What does India have to do with this? Some kind of embezzlement and management? The train left the station for them five years ago, maybe more. They bought Rafales, and they didn't perform well in the war with Pakistan. So who's to blame?
    Our people know full well that the Indians are trying to build their own aircraft based on the same Mirage, and now the Rafale. The work is being overseen by the French from the manufacturer, and the commander of the Indian Air Force is in on it. Their first Indian aircraft crashed recently during a demonstration. Do you think it was an accident? So what do you think, these French guys, will let India switch to our aircraft and push them aside?
    Our companies are certainly participating in tenders, but given the level of corruption in the Indian government and aviation brass, the venture is dubious and unproductive. At least small arms and tanks (components and assembly kits) are selling well so far. But even here, many of the nasty things we're doing are done by people who aren't our partners.
2. wladimirjankov
  
  +8
  
  20 August 2026 14: 46
  
  If Russia provides gas generator technology, India co-finances the testing and guarantees a gigantic sales market, and the engines are assembled in the "land of elephants" using the "Superjet" scheme.
  
  If we hand over aircraft engine production technology to India, we'll be committing yet another stupidity. Our country has already sold them licenses and production technology for T-90 tanks and Su-30MKI fighters, as well as other weapons. As a result, India has now almost completely localized production of the T-90 and Su-30MKI (except for their engines) and can now, without our involvement, repair, rebuild, modernize, and manufacture them not only for itself but also for other countries to which Russia supplied these weapons. Ultimately, we're losing—or, one might say, already have lost—the markets of India and China, our former main arms buyers. After all, it was the same with China. We teach India to make aircraft engines and civilian aircraft, and then they'll just send us packing. That's why the French and Americans don't sell their technologies and licenses for the production of their aircraft engines and aircraft to India or anyone else; they only sell the finished products. And they're right to do so.
  1. twice-born
    
    +5
    
    20 August 2026 14: 55
    
    Everything is correct. This is not a mistake, but outright betrayal, a surrender of secrets, covered up by some mythical profits! Especially since these technologies immediately become known to our enemies through their Gypsy servants!
  2. Strelok1976
    
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    20 August 2026 18: 01
    
    Vladimir, I completely agree with your point of view. The Indians don't have their own engineering school. They can only copy, and even then, with difficulty (like the Chinese did 60 years ago). They can't create anything themselves (for example, a fighter jet they designed—I can't remember the name—that became obsolete 20 years ago). And their overall technical level is low.
  3. Igor M.
    
    -8
    
    20 August 2026 18: 26
    
    wladimirjankov, this is India's standard requirement for all arms sellers, including the US. And the Indian and Chinese arms markets are not lost to us. India just ordered new S-400s and missiles for them. And last year, the delivery of a batch of eight frigates was completed. Russia also signed a contract to supply India with 80 Mi-17 helicopters.
    In October 2025, the Chinese publication Sohu reported that the People's Liberation Army of China signed a contract with Russia for the supply of BMD-4D airborne combat vehicles. China also purchased dozens of Mi-171 and Mi-171E helicopters for operations in challenging geographic conditions.
    1. Paul3390
      
      +4
      
      20 August 2026 20: 29
      
      It's a standard requirement, but everyone except us tells them to get lost. Look at those Frogmen—how much technology did they transfer in the Rafale deal? Exactly.
      1. Igor M.
        
        -7
        
        20 August 2026 23: 02
        
        Paul3390, that's it:
        
        svoroponov: The Indians are trying to build their own aircraft based on the same Mirages, and today the Rafale, the work is supervised by French representatives from the manufacturing company
        
        Lie further.
  4. svoroponov
    
    0
    
    20 August 2026 22: 16
    
    Well, yes. We localized the assembly from a lot of our stuff. And we haven't lost markets in India and China. They're buying. China just started copying ours, so it doesn't need a lot, although there are some things it still hasn't been able to copy. India tried, but it didn't work out, and continues to buy assembly kits (tanks) from us. We sold them a license for rifles, and before that, they bought a decent number of assault rifles from us. They install some of their own equipment, like sighting equipment and other things.
3. Igor M.
  
  -8
  
  20 August 2026 18: 16
  
  India, a country twice born, is a huge market. It is currently the world's most populous country and the third-largest economy. India remains a significant buyer of Russian goods, including high-tech Russian exports. According to Bild, India will become Russia's second-largest trading partner, after China, by 2024.
  
  Last month, India received another S-400 regiment. Following last year's fighting between India and Pakistan, New Delhi ordered five new S-400 regiments.
  
  and additional batches of missiles for them.
  India has ordered eight Project 11356 frigates from Russia. The seventh will be delivered in 2024 and the eighth in 2025.
  1. Paul3390
    
    +2
    
    20 August 2026 20: 31
    
    A market is a place where you can exchange your goods for someone else's, or get some equivalent for them, which you can use to buy what you need elsewhere. So where's India with its rupees? What kind of market is this? If we don't get anything we need in return?
    1. Igor M.
      
      -4
      
      21 August 2026 02: 38
      
      Paul3390, India has been paying us in yuan and Emirati dirhams for a long time.
      Well, we all love coffee and tea. I, however, prefer Ceylon tea.
      
      Russia imports pharmaceuticals (medicines, generics), organic and inorganic chemicals, food (tea, coffee, rice, spices, seafood), as well as textiles, clothing, electronics, equipment and leather goods from India.
Sergey Latyshev

-2

20 August 2026 13: 49

What can I do, unfortunately?
I've read articles saying the Chinese have already started producing their own engines for airliners. On par with ours. Although, just recently, the media wrote that they couldn't handle it, that they'd have to buy from NATO.

Moreover, they are not only certified, but also have some initial operational experience.

IMHO, so perhaps the market will go to them.
There were so many aviation projects with India and China... so many promises... none of them were able to deliver...

And the Chinese already have their own planes, military vehicles, and amphibians.
One hope.
India is with them in the Contras, and will not immediately buy from them....
1. Igor M.
  
  -5
  
  20 August 2026 18: 30
  
  Sergey Latyshev, India is the largest buyer of Russian aircraft. They say they just ordered 80 helicopters from us. Incidentally, China also recently purchased Russian helicopters.
GR777

+5

20 August 2026 13: 49

Only a foolish son of Arbat could connect with these gypsies without holding them by the fat throat. A worse ally than India would be hard to find.
1. twice-born
  
  0
  
  20 August 2026 14: 47
  
  Yes, exactly. Ours thought that by declaring he missed Gandhi (not Indira!), taking a monkey for a ride in a Russian limousine, and holding its hand, that meant "Rusi Hindi bhai bhai!"
  1. Igor M.
    
    -8
    
    20 August 2026 18: 34
    
    Twice-born, if you had your way, you'd disperse all Russian partners, so that Russia would suffer a crushing defeat. According to Bild, in 2024, India was the second-largest trade partner, after China.
    1. AlexSam
      
      +4
      
      20 August 2026 19: 06
      
      Quote: Igor M.
      If you had your way, you would have dispersed all your Russian partners so that Russia would suffer a crushing defeat.
      
      It's not the partners that need to be driven away, but every other one needs to be put up against the wall so that Russia doesn't suffer a crushing defeat.
      1. svoroponov
        
        -6
        
        20 August 2026 22: 22
        
        Well, yes. Stalin left the country without specialists or command staff, and was forced (or rather, Beria tried his best) to release and recruit those who hadn't yet been executed from prisons and sharashkas. And here's the question: what if this affects you too? We don't know who you are or where you are. Maybe you're just not up to the job or a bribe-taker? What then?
        
        AlexSam
        
        +4
        
        20 August 2026 22: 58
        
        Quote: svoroponov
        Stalin put it there
        
        If Stalin hadn't put us up against the wall, by 41, people similar to today would have been in full command, and Operation Barbarossa would have been fully implemented in the shortest possible time. I think there's no need to explain how it would have all ended for the USSR. The only thing is, London probably would have ultimately lost, but the USSR kept it alive, and today it has a chance to win its centuries-long struggle with Russia. His assistants within our country, his protégés, are alive and well, working for his victory. Stalin and Beria are gone and will never be, and Putin, alas, is no Stalin.
        
        Igor M.
        
        -7
        
        21 August 2026 00: 12
        
        AlexSam, I just read an article in which Putin was compared to Stalin.
        
        Like Stalin, Putin not only consolidated his power domestically but also revived Russia's position as a formidable force in global politics. After Lenin and Stalin, Russia's glory reached its zenith under Putin's rule. Stalin ruled the Soviet Union for nearly three decades, from 1924 to 1953, transforming it into a superpower through ruthless political purges, military expansion, and industrialization. Putin, whose rise to power occurred against the backdrop of the collapse of the Soviet Union, has followed a very similar path. Both leaders overcame periods of national upheaval, rebuilt military might, consolidated political control, and challenged Western hegemony.
        Russia's modern tsar not only restored military might and political stability within the country but also influenced its place in the world. Just as Stalin rebuilt the Soviet Union after the devastation of World War II, Putin led Russia out of the post-Soviet crisis and transformed it into a dominant force on the global stage. Whether he will go down in history as a hero or a harsh autocrat, one thing is certain: Putin's legacy is inscribed in the annals of Russian history., and his reign is not yet over.
        
        AlexSam
        
        +4
        
        21 August 2026 01: 15
        
        Quote: Igor M.
        I just read an article in which Putin was compared to Stalin.
        
        In general, what I wanted to say... Remember the good advice of Professor Preobrazhensky: don’t read Russian newspapers before lunch.
        
        P.S. I agree with one thing, perhaps:
        
        Quote: Igor M.
        The modern Tsar of Russia ... influenced its place in the world.
        
        Igor M.
        
        -6
        
        21 August 2026 03: 22
        
        AlexSam, you've clearly been reading too much of the liberal press, which traditionally inflates the numbers of Stalin's "victims." Looking at today's 5th column, like you, it becomes increasingly clear that Stalin's "repressions" were clearly justified.
        But under Putin, the prison population has reached historically low levels, and crime levels have also been reduced.
        
        AlexSam
        
        +4
        
        21 August 2026 04: 32
        
        Actually, I'm just making fun of you. In every post addressed to you. Incidentally, you do the same to all the commenters.
    2. aslanxnumx
      
      +2
      
      20 August 2026 21: 08
      
      Where is the gasoline from India?
      Why do I have to buy 92 for 110 rubles?
      1. Igor M.
        
        -7
        
        21 August 2026 00: 15
        
        aslan642, are Molotov cocktails expensive? But that's a good thing. You'll set fewer fires.
    3. twice-born
      
      +4
      
      20 August 2026 22: 48
      
      And you, yours, have already been given freedom, and you are ready to sell out all of Russia, and to the enemies, you have already sold it out, and for pennies at that!
      But you are all such patriots and very God-believing Orthodox!
      1. Igor M.
        
        -7
        
        21 August 2026 00: 13
        
        Twice-born, so to speak, Russia is only just growing. Chechnya, Crimea, the LPR and DPR... +8 million new citizens.
        
        twice-born
        
        +1
        
        21 August 2026 09: 48
        
        Well, yes, it has grown. So that the world's ruling clans can have even more serfs and get even more free resources from us!
        
        Igor M.
        
        -3
        
        21 August 2026 23: 44
        
        Twice-born, to make it smaller. Because all of Ukraine has long been sold to the West, lock, stock, and barrel. The more we take for ourselves, the less they'll get.
        
        twice-born
        
        +2
        
        22 August 2026 11: 43
        
        Well, yes, well, of course. We've taken a lot, and we're planning on taking a lot? For you personally, the war will end, as everyone here tells us, when we liberate Donbas. That's what it means: "the more we take for ourselves!"
        So why hasn't Batka really united with us for 30 years?! He's only pretending to feel that way in some "Union State." He doesn't want to be enslaved by Jewish-Armenian-Tatar clans. They send hundreds of billions of dollars abroad every year, driving up prices for everything here, destroying free healthcare and education so we die out faster, while they drive black people here in droves! And through mouthpieces like you, they feed the people a line that everything is fine, we're developing, and people are cared for. Meanwhile, Russians are dying at a rate of almost a million a year (not our chureks, they're multiplying)! And that's on top of the hundreds of thousands (some say even up to a million!) killed in the war over the last 4.5 years!
        
        Igor M.
        
        -3
        
        22 August 2026 23: 35
        
        Twice-born, 120 square kilometers. Besides Donbas, we also gained Crimea, 80% of the Zaporizhia Oblast, and 75% of the Kherson Oblast. A sizable chunk of the Kharkiv Oblast, plus chunks of the Sumy and Dnipropetrovsk Oblasts, and a tiny little piece of the Mykolaiv Oblast. We can take another 10-15 square kilometers if Ukraine doesn't surrender quickly. And if it continues to fight, we could even set our sights on a couple more oblasts. Appetite comes with eating. They're reporting radical changes to the Ukrainian conscription system. Apparently, they'll round up the remaining young people and expand the conscription of women.
        Why bother? It's still great. We go there like we're really going abroad. Last year, 5 million Russian tourists visited. My wife and I joined the crowd. It wasn't just for show.
        Your fantasies are unhealthy. For once, on the contrary, they've started pouring huge resources into the country. And we're doing better than that dirty "Eastern" Europe. So, just envy us.
        Yes, sir, you're a racist. Our birth rate is higher than in China, Japan, Italy, and other EU countries. And remember, we now have 7 million more new citizens, white, Russian-speaking, educated, and hardworking. And several million more Ukrainians, who haven't yet accepted Russian citizenship, live among us. And they keep coming.
        It's not so easy to pull the wool over people's eyes. They see all the positive changes with their own eyes, because they travel around the country in droves. Last year, 90 million tourist trips were booked within Russia. A historic record.
        Well, we didn't start the war, Ukraine did. We have to defend ourselves, and also replenish our forces with former citizens of Ukraine and its territories.
2. Igor M.
  
  -6
  
  20 August 2026 18: 32
  
  GR777, you have some very strange ideas about trade. Are there any Russian partners you like? Or do you want to woo everyone? Remember that India is Russia's largest trading partner. According to Bild, in 2024, India was the second-largest trade partner, after China.
  1. AlexSam
    
    +2
    
    20 August 2026 19: 09
    
    Quote: Igor M.
    Remember that India is Russia's largest trading partner. According to Bild, in 2024, India was second in terms of trade volume, after China.
    
    Did your doctor tell you to repeat THIS phrase all evening today?
  2. aslanxnumx
    
    +3
    
    20 August 2026 21: 09
    
    Gosha, change the record, it's repeated for the third time.
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  3. GR777
    
    +2
    
    20 August 2026 23: 12
    
    Igor M. doesn't like anyone; he'd like to strangle them all a bit so they don't shit outside the tray. North Koreans, it seems, are okay.
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Platon Verdictov

+7

20 August 2026 13: 58

It is obvious that the PD-8 and PD-10 engines will be improved...

First of all, the procedure for promoting senior officials needs to be refined. For over a quarter of a century, the current leadership has consistently adopted the most costly and, ultimately, disastrous option for the tightly knit bourgeois Russian Federation on all key issues. This applies to the aviation industry, the disastrous Minsk 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 agreements of 2014, the current Central Bank policy, and, in general, to everything.
1. Igor M.
  
  -8
  
  20 August 2026 18: 39
  
  Platon Verdictov, yeah, yeah. We believe it, of course. Remember that Russia produced 230 Superjets. And hundreds of combat aircraft and helicopters. Including for export.
  The Minsk agreements were extremely beneficial to Russia. And the Central Bank's policies are beyond praise – despite sanctions and the Cold War, the Russian economy continues to grow, and our standard of living has only dropped slightly.
  Let us remember that it was thanks to the actions of our government that Russia gained Crimea, the LPR and DPR, and 7 million new citizens.
  1. aslanxnumx
    
    +3
    
    20 August 2026 21: 12
    
    Dude, the euro is already 98 rubles, and how will 5 million new citizens help us?
    So you didn't answer how they get pensions. Where do they get points or are they awarded them just for show?
faiver

0

20 August 2026 14: 54

We need to work, no matter with Indians or not......
1. YES UZH
  
  +6
  
  20 August 2026 16: 10
  
  One word is missing: "You need to know how to work"...it doesn't matter with Indians or not.....Apparently, Indians can interest our officials in something.
  You have to bring it into the house, into the house, not out of the house...
  1. Igor M.
    
    -9
    
    20 August 2026 18: 40
    
    YES, our guys really know how to work. And they bring everything home. That's why the Russian economy is growing, despite the sanctions and the SVO.
2. svoroponov
  
  -1
  
  20 August 2026 22: 24
  
  YES, YES. Those are golden words!
  Those who can't do anything, don't want to do anything, and don't know how to do anything, look for the cause in everyone but themselves. Apparently, many here are like that.
AC130 Gunship

+2

20 August 2026 15: 56

Sergey, as you're right, it's impossible to extend the SSJ even by a meter. A new 130-seat aircraft would have to be designed from scratch. We don't even have an engine for it. It would take 5-10 years to develop and refine it. More likely, 10. Embraer has a ready-made 145-seat aircraft that's selling well.
And another tricky issue. When trading with Brazil, Indians pay in dollars, but with Russia, for some reason, they pay in rupees. It's an interesting investment project. Especially since Russia doesn't need a 130-seat SZh, since the MC21 can be shortened.
1. Igor M.
  
  -7
  
  20 August 2026 18: 42
  
  AC130 Ganship, India has long been paying Russia in yuan and Emirati dirhams. Refresh your manual.
2. svoroponov
  
  0
  
  20 August 2026 22: 32
  
  The dollar is excluded from the calculations. There are yuan, rupees, and other transactions with other currencies of other countries, for ease of settlement. Barter is also possible. This suits us perfectly for settlements and purchases.
Pavel57

0

20 August 2026 16: 11

Do the PD-8 and SaM146 share a common "cold section"?
1. svoroponov
  
  0
  
  20 August 2026 22: 49
  
  Yes. Initially, we designed the cold section for this engine, and the French took over the hot section. Incidentally, it wasn't very successful (the problems with these engines were precisely due to the hot section). Now, our team has simply designed and tested their own hot section. There were previous developments. There, our team scaled up the hot section from a similar engine, the PD-14, which had already undergone this process. It just took time to test and certify it, as well as organize the actual production of this engine section.
  By the way, they are currently finishing tests on the PD 35 stand (or maybe they have already finished them).
  But this is again - testing on an airplane (I haven't read yet where they'll put it; they wanted to put two PD-35 engines on board the Il =..., which had already been designed, tested, and was in operation, instead of four. The organization of production is also ahead: the assembly line and everything related to that. That is, it will probably take another couple of years, although it's possible earlier. Now everything has greatly accelerated in production.
  1. Pavel57
    
    0
    
    21 August 2026 00: 11
    
    The Perm team attributed the rapid development of the PD-8 to digital modeling experience, which significantly reduced development time. However, the availability of the cold section likely contributed to this. Moreover, the engine is the same size as the French version and even fits into the existing nacelle, making it technically feasible to replace the old engine with the PD-8.
Glagol1

+4

20 August 2026 16: 51

Regarding India, it's a constant dance around the fire of wishes and predictions. There are a ton of failures – the Su-57 was tested twice, and there was no alternative. The Il-276 was a failure, like plywood over a famous town. The MiG-35 tender project also flew by, with Rafale jets bought for triple the price. The only success (admittedly a big one) was the Su-30MKI, but even that didn't convince the Indians much. And the project is fantastic, especially with technology transfer. So no PD-10 is needed. The PD-8 is enough for the Superjet (12 aircraft per year), the Be-200 (3 aircraft per year), and the Il-212, which we won't see anytime soon, if ever. The Il-276 is dead, and the PD-10 is too weak for it. So all this noise is an attempt to squeeze out budget funding for a project that no one needs and to spend this money, just as they already did with the Il-112V, Baikal, Angara, VK-800, and so on and so forth...
1. Igor M.
  
  -4
  
  21 August 2026 02: 52
  
  Glagol1, a ton of victories. But they bought eight frigates, ordered a whopping 80 helicopters, five S-400 missile systems, and thousands of missiles for them.
  Remember that India is the largest importer of Russian tanks..
  Before the Su-30, India purchased the MiG-29, the Mi-17/Mi-17V-5 multi-purpose and transport helicopters, and the Mi-35 and Ka-228/Ka-52 combat attack helicopters.
  We also acquired 5 Il-76s with non-our AWACS systems.
  Earlier this year, a contract was signed for the purchase of Tunguska anti-aircraft missile and gun systems. And so on, and so forth.
Igor M.

-7

20 August 2026 17: 24

Slogans about "rapid import substitution in a couple of years" have been dashed by harsh reality.

The import substitution program, launched in 2014, is long-term. It is reported that its first stage, which lasted from 2014 to 2021, focused on agriculture, the food industry, and basic industries. Only the second stage, which began in 2022, focused on heavy industry, as well as electronics, medical equipment, and complex software. Moreover, it is designed not for "a couple of years," but for 6-8 years—the basic deadline for completing the main transition is January 1, 2028, and for hardware and software systems, December 2030.

Until then, there will be a fierce behind-the-scenes struggle between the civilian sector and the military for PD-8.

No, it won't. The military is only relying on the PD-8 engine for the Il-112, which is far from a pressing need. Other military transport aircraft use different engines. For example, the Il-76 uses the PS-90A-76 turbofan engine, developed by the Perm-based Aviadvigatel design bureau and manufactured by UEC-Perm Motors.

Civil aviation and defense procurement are paying for the carelessness of past years with slack schedules and a severe shortage of wings. This means that lost time will now be paid for with years of intense labor at machine tools and test rigs.

The author uses the wrong term. There can be no question of carelessness. Simply put, no major modern power is capable of producing the entire spectrum of complex technological products on its own due to the colossal costs and the lack of a universal base. For example, Airbus's production cooperation involves 30 countries, while Boeing's involves even more—a whopping 50. Therefore, Russia, too, followed the then-current trend toward a global division of labor.
Touch wood, we don't have an aircraft shortage. Early fears that Russia's Airbus and Boeing fleet would be grounded due to sanctions have proven unfounded. Russia has managed to negotiate the supply of necessary spare parts in exchange for titanium supplies. The Russian Ministry of Defense also currently has a sufficient fleet of military transport aircraft; they need the Il-112 for the future.
1. Nelton
  
  -1
  
  20 August 2026 17: 38
  
  Quote: Igor M.
  The import substitution program, which began in 2014, is long-term. It is written that its first phase, which lasted from 2014 to 2021, focused on agriculture, the food industry, and basic industries. Only the second phase, which began in 2022, focused on heavy industry.
  
  The "import substitution program" should not be perceived as some kind of goal to have everything home-made.
  There is a certain basic income for resources, and a wide variety of goods are imported with this money.
  For those product items where the volumes are sufficient for economically justified localization, it is carried out, starting with the assembly of units into a housing (by the way, the units can be from different suppliers).
  If volumes allow, the process continues with localization of individual nodes.
  However, some of their components and materials may still be imported.
  
  The currency saved on this is used to import something else, and again commodity items with volumes sufficient for localization emerge.
  And so gradually, step by step, from simple to complex.
  The state provides significant advantages to localized products, which leads to "re-labeling," something well-wishers love to sneer about.
  But the real process is also ongoing, and highlighting any truly epic milestones in it is a thankless task; overall, everything is consistent, sometimes accelerating, sometimes even rolling back in some ways.
  
  In general, localization is the third most important point in the development formula, after the development of resources (including agricultural) and their processing into semi-finished products.
2. Vladimir1155
  
  0
  
  20 August 2026 17: 58
  
  Igor, you seem to be partially right, but you're inattentive and confusing terms. You're completely wrong. There are countries that are capable of building aircraft and other things without cooperation with other countries. These include China, the United States, and Russia. Incidentally, they account for a significant share of GDP, surpassing the rest of the world. For example, China alone accounts for a fifth of global GDP. Russia builds its own aircraft, both military and civilian. Import substitution exists: the Tu-214, Il-86, Il-76, the Su-21 line, the Tu-160, and the Il-114-300. The Be-200, MS-21, and Superjet-100, among others, are in development.
  1. Igor M.
    
    -6
    
    20 August 2026 23: 37
    
    Vladimir1155, Boeing has a cooperative network of suppliers in 50 countries, including Russia, which supplies titanium. For the Chinese airliner C919, the United States is the key foreign trade partner for the project: approximately 48 American companies supply avionics, flight controls, hydraulics, and powertrain components. And Europe (primarily France and Germany) has approximately 26 European suppliers, including the CFM International joint venture (in which the French company Safran participates), which produces LEAP-1C engines.
    However, in China's civil aviation, Airbus has the largest number of passenger airliners—approximately 2400 aircraft (over 50% of the market). Boeing is second, with approximately 1900 aircraft.
    Thus, Russia is the only country in the world that has completely localized the production of airliners.
    1. Vladimir1155
      
      -1
      
      21 August 2026 08: 35
      
      Quote: Igor M.
      Thus, Russia is the only country in the world that has completely localized the production of airliners.
      
      Hurray, you confirmed my rightness, glory to Russia!
vBR

+3

20 August 2026 17: 40

The PD-10 would be suitable for the Tu-334; it would be easier to make a 130-150-seat version there. I think that's how it should have been done from the start. By the way, Tupolev had such a variant in its arsenal; it's an ideal aircraft for ranges up to 3000-3500 km.
AC130 Gunship

+4

21 August 2026 04: 13

Quote: svoroponov
The dollar is excluded from the calculations. There are yuan, rupees, and other transactions with other currencies of other countries, for ease of settlement. Barter is also possible. This suits us perfectly for settlements and purchases.

You personally might be happy with it. But rupees are like toilet paper. And smart Indians don't want to pay in rubles.
1. Vladimir1155
  
  -6
  
  21 August 2026 08: 38
  
  Quote: AC130 Ganship
  toilet paper.
  
  This is a dollar, and in rupees we get gasoline, mangoes, fabrics and much more at relatively low prices.
Alexpan

+2

21 August 2026 11: 49

So, sharing technology again, especially with unreliable partners like the Indians? I don't understand why these engines can't be entirely domestically produced.
AC130 Gunship

+4

21 August 2026 16: 28

Quote: vladimir1155
Quote: AC130 Ganship
toilet paper.

This is a dollar, and in rupees we get gasoline, mangoes, fabrics and much more at relatively low prices.

I've been hearing and reading about the dollar's impending collapse for almost 30 years now. In July 98, the dollar (after the monetary denomination in Russia, 1 = 10) was worth 6 rubles. When Putin became president 26 years ago, it was worth about 30 rubles. Today, it's worth 82. But the dollar just doesn't collapse. Even if someone's eyes are bulging from the strain in a small room.
AC130 Gunship

+4

21 August 2026 16: 30

Quote: Vbr
The PD-10 would be suitable for the Tu-334; it would be easier to make a 130-150-seat version there. I think that's how it should have been done from the start. By the way, Tupolev had such a variant in its arsenal; it's an ideal aircraft for ranges up to 3000-3500 km.

Write it down on a piece of paper if you're having trouble remembering. There won't be a Pd10, let alone a Tu-334, much less its stretched version. And hang it on the wall in a prominent place.