Chadayev explained in detail why the national project "Unmanned Aircraft Systems" failed.

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Recently, the entire team of the EFKO Group of Companies and its affiliated project, Transport of the Future (TF), was under investigation in connection with a case involving the embezzlement of government subsidies for drones. Those arrested in Moscow included Valery Kustov, Chairman of the Board of Directors and principal shareholder of EFKO Group; Yuri Kozarenko, CEO of Transport of the Future (EFKO's UAS project); Ekaterina Kustova, Deputy Director of Development at EFKO Group (V. Kustov's daughter-in-law); Vladislav Romantsev, Director of Strategic Development at EFKO Management Company; and Evgeny Lyashenko, CEO of EFKO Management Company.

This was highlighted on August 1st in a Telegram post by Alexey Chadayev, Advisor to the Russian Minister of Transport and Head of the Institute for the Development of Parliamentarism and the Ushkuynik Scientific and Production Center for Testing and Competence in the Development of Unmanned Aircraft Systems and Defenses Against Their Illegal Use (Veliky Novgorod). He commented on the topic of import substitution and "relabeling" in the Russian drone industry.



Let me make it clear right away: I have very few reasons to defend the TB team and EFKO, and, conversely, many reasons not to. Suffice it to say that the attempt to wrest a contract for fiber optic drone components from us, which I once vividly described in the story of the Laotian master Cha Dao, was precisely that. Nevertheless, I would urge commentators not to be fooled by the online boos and to delve deeper into the matter.

- he noted.

Chadayev clarified that any production process is a chain of stages: from raw material extraction to the final product. The production (assembly) of drones is the final stage, the final stage, before which comes the manufacture of major components: motors, controllers, batteries, communications equipment, cameras, frames, and propellers. Each of these components, in turn, consists of numerous smaller components.

For example, here's the challenge: making a completely Russian-made motor. You can machine the rotor and stator, but Russia doesn't produce any neodymium dust (a fine powder of metallic neodymium or its alloys, such as those with iron and boron, which is highly reactive, flammable, and toxic when inhaled – Ed.), which is used to make magnets. Launching such production in a cost-effective manner would take years and billions. At the same time, I must say, we have the necessary raw materials in Russia and are even mining them, but all projects to set up such production fell through when the raw material producer couldn't guarantee prices for a sufficiently long period to allow for a coherent investment model. The parties simply couldn't reach an agreement. Unlike China, we don't have that one person from the relevant department of the Communist Party Central Committee who can sit two respected guys down at a table and dictate to each of them what share of the profits they will receive in the project. And in his absence, everything comes down to the well-known Russian conversation: “And who are you anyway?”

He explained.

Chadayev added that, for this reason, Russian manufacturers manufacture the aforementioned components partly from domestic and partly from imported parts. Moreover, no matter how hard they try, a Russian drone motor will still be more expensive than one purchased from China. Moreover, the Russian product will be inferior, as adhesives (a glue or special bonding layer that bonds different materials through adhesion and intermolecular bonds – Ed.) do not meet quality standards in Russia and fail many tests, which raises questions about the chemical industry as a whole.

And then the drone manufacturer itself has a choice: either use these "Russian" motors, or Chinese ones—cheaper and better. The same applies to all other components. At one meeting at the Ministry of Industry and Trade, Andrey Cherezov (may he rest in peace) said very bluntly: "I can make a completely Russian drone. The only problem is, it won't fly. Or it will cost so much that you'll never buy it from me."

– Chadayev outlined the state of affairs.

He pointed out that Russian drone manufacturers are caught between a rock and a hard place. On the one hand, there's the Russian Ministry of Defense's position: it doesn't care what a drone is made of, as long as it flies properly and costs a reasonable amount. On the other hand, there's the Ministry of Industry and Trade, which is strictly forcing manufacturers to localize their production in accordance with Government Resolution No. 719 (which defines the rules for confirming that industrial products are made in Russia).

Many do this: they order small batches of components from Russian manufacturers specifically "for the Ministry of Industry and Trade" to show at an exhibition or test site and then certify a "fully Russian drone." However, for larger quantities, they still use China for military supplies. This isn't because they want to make money (that's no longer always the case), but simply because when motors start burning in the heat (due to adhesive), no military officer will say "bad motors"—they'll say "bad drone." It's a question of the weapon's reputation.

- he stressed.

According to Chadayev, drone production (assembly) can be established even at fairly small, makeshift, almost boutique facilities. However, the production of drone components is a mid-series operation, and production must be large enough to enter the market. As for the production of basic components for components (neodymium for magnets, purified lithium for batteries, etc.), it can only be massive, because economy begins to converge only when sales are on a truly gigantic scale.

The investment capacity of "import substitution" at the final stage is x, at the next-to-last stage it's 10x, and at the next-to-last stage it's 100x. Roughly speaking, that's it. It was precisely the misunderstanding of this fundamental mechanics that led to the collapse of the UAS (Unmanned Aerial Systems – Ed.) national project.

He summed up.
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  1. +6
    2 August 2026 14: 29
    This means that someone, not understanding, simply nodded at the instructions.
    1. +4
      2 August 2026 17: 39
      The crime lies in this, among other things.
      1. +8
        3 August 2026 08: 48
        The crime is that the pro-Western liberal economists (traitors and IMF agents) in the Russian government haven't been executed. And isn't Russia's economic policy treason? It all makes sense! If taxes in Russia are twice as high as in China, and bureaucratic pressure in Russia is 50 times more severe than in China, then... any Russian production won't be able to compete with China.
        1. -5
          3 August 2026 09: 32
          Quote: vladimir1155
          Pro-Western liberal economists (traitors and IMF agents) from the Russian government were not executed.

          at the expense of pro-Western liberal economists -
          the country endured sanctions from hell,
          continued economic development quantitatively (GDP) and qualitatively (technology pool),
          ensured the preservation of a virtually peaceful way of life for the population,
          was able to saturate the LBS with a sufficient number of contract soldiers
          provide them with the means to counteract all the vaunted Western wonder weapons.

          Well, it’s clear who doesn’t like all this: all the Uro-brothers and some of the mossy patriots of the USSR, both of them fiercely and sincerely hate modern Russia.
          1. +4
            3 August 2026 11: 31
            at the expense of the people and in spite of the pro-worship liberals

            Quote from Nelton.
            the country endured sanctions from hell,
            continued economic development quantitatively (GDP) and qualitatively (technology pool),
            ensured the preservation of a virtually peaceful way of life for the population,
            was able to saturate the LBS with a sufficient number of contract soldiers
            provide them with the means to counteract all the vaunted Western wonder weapons.

            Despite corrupt officials and unnecessary oversight bodies, we still have some production glimmering, but most of the products come from China, where truly wise economists have established production, created a producer-friendly regime, and brought China to first place in the world.
            1. -1
              3 August 2026 11: 57
              Quote: vladimir1155
              Wise economists established production, created a producer-friendly regime, and brought China to first place in the world.

              Wise economists there, back in the late 197s, realized that they should follow the example not of the USSR, but of Japan and South Korea, attracting foreign investment into production for export, smiling and bowing to investors, and not shoving swollen sovereignty in their faces.
              Well, they had the resource of an exodus of hard-working youth from the village.
              And the overall population is 10 times larger.
              1. +2
                3 August 2026 20: 14
                Quote from Nelton.
                attract foreign investment in production for export, smile and bow to investors

                And do you like Gorbachev and Chubais? Judas Gorbachev tried the same thing, but it didn't work out.... China is a socialist state with a ruling communist party, and they have more sovereignty than we do, and the VAT is half ours.
                1. -1
                  4 August 2026 09: 31
                  Quote: vladimir1155
                  Judas Gorbachev did the same, but it didn't work out...

                  Gorbachev was not even close to attracting foreign investment into production for export.
                  I was just getting into debt.
                  Well, yes, when you borrow money, you also have to smile and bow.

                  Quote: vladimir1155
                  The PRC is a socialist state

                  Yeah, yeah, socialist - with private ownership of the means of production, and the private owner is often a foreign bourgeois imperialist.

                  Quote: vladimir1155
                  They have more sovereignty than we do.

                  Russia decided to return Crimea, and it did. And not only Crimea.
                  China still can't decide on its Taiwan, America won't allow it.
                  1. +1
                    4 August 2026 11: 22
                    Quote from Nelton.
                    Yeah, yeah, socialist - with private ownership of the means of production, and the private owner is often a foreign bourgeois imperialist.

                    A country's sovereignty is determined by the size of its army, population, and industry... so China is the most sovereign country, and attracting foreign investment and, accordingly, giving foreigners the right to do business in Russia would be good, but for this, it is necessary

                    1. Disperse the liberals from the government.
                    2 disperse almost all of the supervision
                    3 reduce taxes

                    That's when investors from all over the world will come running and improve our economy.
          2. +1
            4 August 2026 00: 57
            It's funny. It's as if you don't even live in Russia. Literally all your points are untrue. Maybe you should also remember Armata? This "New Russia" hasn't even gotten off its knees, let alone risen from all fours. Liberrossiya is lagging behind everyone else in the world. It's disgusting to live in such a state.
          3. +2
            5 August 2026 20: 31
            Come on, how are pro-Western economic liberals helping fight Western sanctions? With high interest rates that kill all industrial projects? The country is still surviving thanks to a general decline in living standards, the remaining natural resources, and China's pragmatic stance. The liberals are doing everything they can to send the economy into a nosedive.
            1. -1
              6 August 2026 09: 19
              Quote from Alorg
              A high interest rate that kills all industrial projects?

              A high interest rate is one way to suppress secondary industries and redirect resources (including human resources) to the military-industrial complex and directly to the military-industrial complex.
              Meanwhile, Turkey and Kazakhstan have no SVO, and the key rate is higher. Surprise?
              And an even bigger surprise is that, despite the higher interest rate, these countries are also doing well in terms of development.

              Returning to Russia, if we look at the dynamics of the initiation, implementation, and commissioning of multi-hundred-billion-dollar projects to develop resources and process them into semi-finished products, everything is proceeding as usual at the same pace. And these projects are the driving forces of the economy, driving both the mechanical engineering industry with orders and shaping the tax base.
              Projects in civilian sectors are also being introduced, they have their own programs, in many cases with assistance from the FRD, which co-finances development/modernization at 3-5%.
              a few recent examples, without going into too much detail:

              04 2026 of August
              In the Kaluga region, with the help of the FRP, the production of metal lighting poles was launched.
              July 30 2026 city
              In the Nizhny Novgorod region, with the participation of the FRP, the production of chromatographs for natural gas analysis has been increased.
              July 29 2026 city
              In Udmurtia, a borrower from the Fund for Development and Reconstruction has increased production of insulating material for the automotive industry.
              July 23 2026 city
              In the Ivanovo region, a borrower from the Fund for Development and Reconstruction (FDR) has launched a new production facility for industrial steam boilers.

              Separate shipbuilding programs - precisely against the backdrop of the SVO and high rates, two Arctic-class gas carriers, the Kosygin and the Posyet, have already been commissioned

              Rosatom is pursuing its projects at its own pace, both internationally and domestically. This year, the first power unit of the new VVER TOI design was commissioned.
              Roads, schools, housing, and gardens are being built.
              When discussing how difficult it is to destroy bridges across the Dnieper, it always comes to mind that over the years of the Northern Military District, Russia has already built more such bridges than need to be demolished.

              But of course, you can’t see this from Vinnytsia.

              Quote from Alorg
              due to a general decline in the standard of living of the population

              The standard of living of the population varies among those who work in the military-industrial complex and the military-industrial complex - for those it has increased, for the rest it has decreased somewhat (and that is within the margin of error), but in general, average salaries and pensions are growing in both rubles and dollars.
              Housing availability is also growing; this year it reached and exceeded 30 square meters per person, while the RSFSR had 16 square meters. This isn't just an increase, but also the replacement of old and dilapidated housing (wooden houses without amenities), and the surrounding infrastructure also affects the standard of living.

              And let me remind you, all this is against the backdrop of the SVO, which is draining a ton of resources into maintaining and overcoming sanctions from hell and restoring the consequences of the landings.
    2. +6
      3 August 2026 07: 41
      Quote: Sergey Latyshev
      This means that someone, not understanding, simply nodded at the instructions.

      This means that someone is sitting in the wrong place.
      The idea is certainly good - import substitution, but the reality is a little different.
      On the other hand, what if tomorrow China bans the supply of military technology and components?
  2. +1
    2 August 2026 14: 33
    In China, even capitalists work for China; in Russia, even communists worked against the USSR and against Russia.
    Fate!
  3. +2
    2 August 2026 14: 54
    According to Chadayev, the production (assembly) of drones can be established even at fairly small, makeshift, almost boutique facilities.

    The losers nod in agreement.
  4. +9
    2 August 2026 15: 09
    Chadayev explained in detail why the national project "Unmanned Aircraft Systems" failed.

    There's some real trouble with the national projects.
    On topic: the guy in the photo doesn't fit. He wanted to get a foot in the door, but the thieves got the better of him.
    1. +6
      2 August 2026 15: 29
      This "guy doesn't fit in the picture" is the same Chadaev, General Director of the Ushkuynik enterprise from Veliky Novgorod, who developed and began mass-producing the first fiber-optic drone, "Prince Vandal of Novgorod" (KVN)... My comment about your "wanted to suck on it."
      1. +6
        2 August 2026 16: 16
        In Ukraine:

        In early 2024, the Ukrainian laboratory "Dronarnya," led by engineer Maksym Sheremet, presented the "Banderik-Ribbon" project to the public with a range of approximately 1 km. Later, similar solutions began to be assembled on a large scale, both in artisanal and mass-produced form, by both sides of the conflict.

        And it's unlikely he developed it. All these managers are very good at stealing other people's thoughts and ideas... But it was engineers, programmers, designers, and blue-collar workers who developed and produced it.
        1. +1
          2 August 2026 17: 36
          It's not the soldiers who are remembered, it's the commanders who are remembered.
          1. +2
            3 August 2026 13: 05
            And in many ways, this is correct: under an incompetent commander, even the best soldiers can only die heroically, with minimal damage to the enemy. This principle is also true for the civilian sector: if a project isn't led by a competent manager, the designers can be brilliant, the workers can all be brilliant... but the end result is a dud!
      2. +5
        2 August 2026 17: 54
        Quote: YuriYuri
        This "guy doesn't fit in the picture" is the same Chadaev, General Director of the Ushkuynik enterprise in Veliky Novgorod, who developed and began mass-producing the first fiber-optic drone, the "Prince Vandal of Novgorod" (KVN).

        Well, let's start from here. Of course I know who's in the photo, there were threads about him here and I read about him in Telegram.

        My remark about your "wanted to suck on".

        He himself is quoted in this thread as saying that

        Suffice it to say that the attempt to wrest from us a contract for components for fiber-optic drones, which I once artistically described in the story of the Laotian master Cha Dao, was exactly that.

        Pardon me, it seems like they wanted to squeeze it out.

        The same Chadaev, General Director of the Ushkuynik enterprise from Veliky Novgorod, who developed and began mass-producing the first fiber-optic drone, the Prince Vandal of Novgorod.

        The first fiber-optic drone was created in Ukraine, and it turns out Chadayev already copied this one.

        The first modern FPV drones with fiber optic control were created in Ukraine (in 2022 by engineer Maxim Sheremeta)

        that same Chadayev

        Biography
        Alexey Chadayev was born on September 30, 1978 in Moscow.

        In 1998 he graduated from the Faculty of Cultural Studies of the State Academy of Slavic Culture.

        From 1997 to 1998, he was a member of the group of advisers to Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation Boris Nemtsov.

        From 2000 to 2002, he headed the Internet department of the publishing house "Work for You" and was also a producer of the online personnel service Rabota.ru.

        In 2003, he became president of the New Rights Foundation, as well as deputy editor-in-chief of Russian Journal and an employee of Gleb Pavlovsky's Foundation for Effective Politics.

        From 2003 to 2004 he was deputy editor-in-chief of Globalrus.ru.

        From 2005 to 2009, he was a member of the Public Chamber of the Russian Federation and was a member of the commission on regional development and local self-government.

        From 2009 to 2010, he worked as a referent in the Domestic Policy Department of the Presidential Administration of the Russian Federation.

        From 2010 to 2011, he headed the political department of the Central Election Commission of the United Russia party.

        Since 2016, he has been an advisor to the Chairman of the State Duma of the Russian Federation Vyacheslav Volodin.

        Since 2024, he has been in charge of the Ushkuynik Scientific and Production Center, which produces the Prince Vandal Novgorodsky attack UAV.

        On January 20, 2026, he took up the post of advisor to the Minister of Transport of the Russian Federation Andrei Nikitin.

        On July 1, 2026, he joined the Central Council of the New People party.

        I couldn't find anywhere that he was a military man, a drone tester, or an engineer connected, at least not with aviation, but at least close to it.
        Ukraine has developed a drone with optical lenses.

        and only after 2 years he became

        them

        Since 2024, he has been in charge of the Ushkuynik Scientific and Production Center, which produces the Prince Vandal Novgorodsky attack UAV.

        Most likely he supervises, or, more simply, provides protection from the authorities.
        I wasn't impressed by what you highlighted in large letters, especially since it was the engineers who were doing it, not him. And I couldn't find anywhere that he was a seasoned production worker; he was simply, as I said above, most likely overseeing it.
        1. -5
          2 August 2026 23: 29
          Yeah, yeah, yeah, suckers invented everything. From the wheel to...
          1. +2
            3 August 2026 05: 05
            Quote: k7k8
            Yes, yes, yes, the losers invented everything in the world. From the wheel to

            The conversation was about drones. Are there no smart people among Ukrainians? In the USSR, we were one big country, where we were all taught by smart Soviet teachers.
            When our military, when they were evacuating Nazis and soldiers from Azov by Ukrainian helicopters, NATO officers, and others, just a meter from the surface of the water without equipment, at night, saying, "What do you expect? We went through Afghanistan with many of them, and many of us had the same teachers and instructors." If he's a Ukrainian, then he's a jerk and incompetent? That's how people lose wars because they underestimate the enemy.
            1. -4
              3 August 2026 13: 10
              Quote: Valera75
              What, there are no smart people among Ukrainians?

              Of course there are. Countless of them. I can give you thousands of examples off the top of my head.

              Quote: Valera75
              If he's Ukrainian, then he's a jerk and can't do anything?

              Again, no. And the current war confirms this.
              But don't go to extremes and claim credit for every invention in the world. Yes, Ukrainians were the first to create a fiber-optic drone. But it was more of a concept with a range of up to 1 km and a negligible payload. Russian engineers, however, brought it to near perfection and turned it into a real nightmare for the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
              1. 0
                3 August 2026 21: 27
                Stop fidgeting. Your words about everything were made up by the crests. I wrote that they were the first to invent a drone with a twisted pair cable, and that's all I was talking about. And then you started spouting your nonsense about everything being made up by the crests.
                And there's no point in trying to classify me as a hohol.

                But there is no need to go to extremes and take credit for all inventionsWorld

                As you can see above, I only gave an example of a drone with optics; everything else is just your crazy bullshit. Don't get mad, you sicko. And as you yourself wrote, don't go to extremes. lol
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        2. -1
          3 August 2026 10: 13
          Where did it say that the KVN fiber-optic drone was the world's first? I wrote about Russia and Chadayev's role in the development of unmanned aircraft in our country. I'm simply a proponent of not slapping labels on others, especially someone as accomplished as Chadayev. I think you'll agree with me...
          1. 0
            3 August 2026 10: 47
            Quote: YuriYuri
            Where was it written that the KVN fiber-optic drone is the first in the world?

            Where did I write about the first in the world?
            I wrote that this Chadayev, two years after it was invented by a Ukrainian—or rather, not Chadayev at all, but our engineers and workers—began to be produced here. I still don't understand how he deserves credit.

            especially one as deserving as Chadayev.

            The honored one is Korolev, for example, but I don't understand what this Chadayev did for me at all. You apparently didn't read my post, and I even gave you his biography.

            I'm just a supporter of not sticking labels on other people out of nowhere.

            what label?
            An unremarkable person who spearheaded the production of fiber-optic drones, which Ukrainians were the first to launch. An ordinary person who sits there and whines, justifying the impotence of import substitution and all that.
            1. -1
              3 August 2026 15: 27
              Don't tell fairy tales: the first control signals were transmitted via fiber optics in 1961 in England, and this technology was then actively developed by the United States and other countries. This is an ancient technology, but large-scale production (in fact, mass production) of UAV control via fiber optics was pioneered by Chadayev at the Ushkuynik (KVN drone) enterprise. This drone was instrumental in liberating the Kursk region for our soldiers, as for the first time in combat, it was immune to enemy electronic warfare, and at that time, the enemy had nothing comparable in commercial quantities. And you can't diminish Chadayev's contribution to this.
              1. 0
                3 August 2026 21: 48
                Quote: YuriYuri
                And you won’t be able to diminish Chadayev’s merit in this.

                Father, you pray to him and rushed to defend him, although I responded to the text in the article, but I was mistaken in saying that they didn’t squeeze out the streams, but wanted to, well, I wrote it. Pardon me.

                Don't tell fairy tales, the first control signals were transmitted via fiber optics in 1961 in England, and this technology was then actively developed in the United States and other countries. This is an ancient technology.

                Why do I need this nonsense?

                This is an ancient technology, but large-scale production (actually mass production) in relation to controlling drones via fiber optics was first provided by Chadayev at the Ushkuynik enterprise.

                What's so brilliant about this Chadayev if everything was already thought out long ago, and drones using this ancient technology were created in Ukraine in 22? Who was I writing this for?

                But large-scale production (actually mass production) in relation to controlling drones via fiber optics was first ensured by Chadayev at the Ushkuynik enterprise

                Instead of nails or cigarettes, he started making drones at his own facility? Or was it like Nemtsov's 19th birthday, or did someone else set him up here, or did the journalist just do it himself, using his own money? Or was he simply installed? No?

                And you won’t be able to diminish Chadayev’s merit in this.

                In this thread, I praised the workers and engineers for these drones, but you praise some advisor to Nemtsov and journalist Chadayev. This is about you belittling the merits and helping our soldiers.
        3. +2
          3 August 2026 10: 45
          Having read his biography thanks to you, I'm curious: how can a 20-year-old be an advisor to a deputy prime minister, even to the traitor Nemtsov?! How can he even be an advisor to anyone in government, even to a junior staffer?! Did he give any advice about students, about young people, about how best to party and drink until the morning?
          The boy was simply bought back then, somehow managed to get in, and then was promoted by pro-Western traitors and their Western masters. And now he's spinning a yarn, explaining why we can't do anything! They're great at that!
          And as a result, their conclusion is only one: the people in Russia are not the same, they are Russian, and they are to blame, and they, as always, have nothing to do with it!
          We can’t, because such chatterboxes and embezzlers are in power and everywhere below in key positions!
          1. 0
            3 August 2026 10: 54
            Quote: Twice-born
            Why can't we do anything!

            We can and do make nuclear submarines, missiles for delivering gifts, rockets for launching satellites, the satellites themselves (which is much more difficult), combat aircraft including the Su-57, air defense systems, shells and mines in huge quantities, and when necessary, we have established the production of cheap cruise missiles (geranium, etc.), air and ground drones.
            And all this is based on the 11th largest economy in the world (which only recently became the 8th).
            And all this while maintaining a virtually peaceful way of life for citizens.

            Yes, we purchase some components for this.
            Well, who makes all their own homemade stuff? Not to mention countries ranked 6th and below?
            1. +1
              3 August 2026 11: 29
              So what if we can do this? Why are you listing these well-known things? I didn't know that! That's not the point.
              We can't even make the motors and magnets for our current strategic and essential weapons! And don't tell me about global cooperation in the West and blame them. How much longer can you take? It (cooperation) has gotten us into trouble, along with the traitors and thieves who aren't making any progress! They have a different situation and capabilities in the West, while we absolutely need to produce everything for our strategic weapons. If the Chinese don't sell them to us, that's it! It's as if you don't understand.
              We don't buy components for the Su-57 and the air defense missiles and so on, as you mentioned. And even though they gave us a nicer figure in the economy, it didn't make our lives any better, and flaunting it to the public is pointless.
              1. +1
                3 August 2026 11: 39
                Quote: Twice-born
                As if I didn't know that! That's not the point.

                Of course not about that.
                The speeches are the same: they say we can't do anything, we don't know how to do anything. In complete agreement with Western well-wishers that the Russian untermenschen can't do anything and don't know how to do anything except drink vodka and throw corpses at people.

                Quote: Twice-born
                She got us into trouble!

                If the current situation is considered a puddle, it wasn't international cooperation that led to it, but a system in which only one person can make decisive decisions based on an incorrect assessment of the situation. And no one will dare to challenge the decisions, let alone even discuss the situation, until objective reality finally manifests itself in everyone's perceptions.

                But if we take the "realities on the ground" into account right now, this round is generally in Russia's favor and for the benefit of Russia, although of course the price has been considerable.

                Quote: Twice-born
                We can't make motors or magnets for them.

                This is how it should be written, without generalizations that motors and magnets still have to be imported.
                And many other things also have to be imported, especially electronics and components for production equipment.
                This allows us to concentrate on the development and production of things that are either impossible or impractical to purchase.
          2. +2
            3 August 2026 10: 56
            Quote: Twice-born
            Having read his biography thanks to you, I'm wondering how at 20 years old one can be an advisor to the Deputy Prime Minister, even the traitor Nemtsov?!

            So I posted it to the person who is trying to convince me that he is a genius.
            And yes, when I read and copied his biography, I laughed that Nemtsov's advisor was a 19-year-old. What could this young man possibly advise, and how was he chosen as an advisor? Probably for what achievements at 19, apparently he had a wealth of experience, and something else that made him stand out among others.
  5. +8
    2 August 2026 15: 52
    Something is wrong here ...

    Questions for the chemical industry

    - have no solution?
    So how does Ukraine manage to produce drones (with the same Chinese components), but on a scale that exceeds (!) Russian ones?
    1. +2
      3 August 2026 07: 45
      Quote: Mikhail L.
      Something is wrong here ...

      Questions for the chemical industry

      - have no solution?
      So how does Ukraine manage to produce drones (with the same Chinese components), but on a scale that exceeds (!) Russian ones?

      They are simply already being made in European factories.
      1. 0
        3 August 2026 11: 36
        AI:

        Ukraine's drone production covers approximately 95% of the Defence Forces' needs, driven by localisation of components, partnerships with the US and EU, and funding from Western allies.
  6. +4
    2 August 2026 17: 33
    But this isn't an excuse for the dealers; it's proof of the impossibility of achieving their goal, even if everything had gone according to plan. After all, fraud is still fraud. Today's Svobodnaya Pressa published a very good, revealing article about them, including Bastrykin's opinion.
  7. +2
    2 August 2026 19: 16
    He who wants, seeks an opportunity.
    He who does not want looks for a reason.
    We understand about the drones, is it the same problem with the front-line transporters?
    In Ukraine, pickup trucks, new and used, are imported directly from abroad for military needs.
    Without multi-tax and duties.
    Do we also have a reason why we can't do the same?
    Why didn't AvtoVAZ start mass production of front-line transporters for the military?
    During World War II from 1941-1945, the Americans produced 360,000 WilIys MB SUVs, + Ford produced 280,000 copies of the Ford GPW under license.
    50501 vehicles were delivered to the USSR, among others.
    These cars cost $738 in those days, but if you convert that into today's money, that's $13,505 in today's money.
    Translated into rubles, this would be approximately 1,080,500 rubles per 1 car.
    Considering that the transporter vehicle is extremely simple, if it were produced here in Russia on a conveyor belt, its price could be in the region of 500,000 rubles.
    Are there any statistics on how many Willys-like transporters AvtoVAZ has produced and supplied, and at what price for our armed forces?
    Or will the final cost of such a car be 100x??? And no one will buy it???
    Maybe it wasn't the bobbin? - Maybe someone was sitting in the cockpit? Does speed in analysis and decision-making depend on age? -
    1. -5
      2 August 2026 23: 32
      Quote: Roman_V
      Why didn't AvtoVAZ start mass production of front-line transporters for the military?

      In short, there's no order from the Ministry of Defense. Everything else is just empty talk and speculation.
  8. +6
    3 August 2026 00: 36
    The run-through, he didn't explain why these leaders were jailed. They knew in advance they couldn't create their own, so they stole?! Then why did they sign up? They would have stolen just as much even if they could have created everything we had! And look at this explainer's mug, also fattened on government and liberal fare. And they're making excuses for the government again!
    These are all just empty excuses for not being able to reach an agreement! If only they could, the President of the Russian Federation (VVP) would have "talked everyone over," allocated billions, and set up production! But as the director of AvtoVAZ said: "We can, but why?!" And Chemezov echoes him! How can anyone even say such a thing?! So, make it cheaper and better for the motherland, ready for the front, by order! The FSB will explain to anyone who doesn't understand. Chinese capitalists are obviously more understanding!
    They should have said the same to Joseph Vissarionovich and Beria during the war, and even after!
    All they know is how to steal and use the budget, and then justify it, but they don’t want to do the job and work!
    A huge country can't possibly manufacture magnets and motors for model aircraft! As children, schoolchildren in aircraft modeling clubs would have laughed at such statements!
    1. +3
      3 August 2026 05: 25
      Quote: Twice-born
      All they know is how to steal and use the budget, and then justify it, but they don’t want to do the job and work!
      A huge country can't possibly manufacture magnets and motors for model aircraft! As children, schoolchildren in aircraft modeling clubs would have laughed at such statements.

      I have said many times that this is the Age of Chatterboxes, and in our country they are off the charts.
      Without doing anything, they talk a lot in empty words, they stick in a bunch of incomprehensible words, they mix everything up into verbal diarrhea, and after reading this, their brains boil and, without understanding anything, someone will think that they seemed to want or were going to do something, but there are a lot of letters and without understanding anything in their texts, people cannot present anything to them because there are a lot of words and nothing is clear.
      So, Nagibulins and Siluanov, smiling and spitting nonsense about overheating and underheating, are on forums, and for a quarter of a century, you've only read about how hundreds of billions are being stolen and national projects are failing. And in this thread, it becomes clear that we can't make engines and there are no magnets in the once-great USSR.
      1. +1
        3 August 2026 09: 08
        The era of chatterboxes, and in our country they are off the charts.

        I'd add: The Age of Money-Suckers, who care more about lining their own pockets than the country's problems. Because ideology has been abolished, bonds of brotherhood and cooperation have been broken. Now we live in one country, like wolves, each for themselves. But we're being told about Putinism from every corner of the world.
      2. 0
        3 August 2026 10: 35
        Yes, that's right, I completely agree with you. They're just spinning a yarn to cover up their incompetence and theft, and nothing more. There are no results, but never mind, we just have to endure another four years, water off a duck's back!
        I'm just wondering where that Igorek is when he comes galloping in with his "500 sq. km. monthly, the government is wonderful and we're living better and better," and how he'll now use "facts" to justify the theft and the lack of magnets, motors, cameras, etc.!
  9. oao
    +4
    3 August 2026 02: 07
    These seem like basic things that almost anyone in the country understands. And yet, this slow-witted, hoarse-voiced guy needs some explanation. It seems like this whole gang of Petrovich and his henchmen are working, at the very least, only for themselves.
  10. +2
    3 August 2026 09: 25
    I'll blurt out one last thing from my couch, thinking once again about his writing and so on in general.
    Let's say they need—let's put it simply—magnets and other things to produce engines, which we don't make here. They don't build factories for them because they don't know what the profits will be like or how to split them. They buy everything from China, which doesn't think about such things when it seems like they're independent.
    They didn't build the factories(s) in Russia that would have made the country independent of anyone. Everything would have been domestic, engines and all that, would have gone to the front. The guys would have beaten the enemy with these weapons, produced domestically, and would have marched faster to victory. Fewer soldiers would have died at the front and civilians would have died. The factories would have been operational, jobs would have been created, taxes would have been collected, and most importantly, everything would have been domestic. But that's if they had built the factories, but they weren't built. Does that mean total dependence on China, which, knowing this, could, and perhaps even did, twist their arms, for example, over gas prices, as powerful as Siberia? Could they have given in, losing hundreds of millions or billions a year because of it? And not just on gas prices; they might have to give in somewhere else, maybe at the front? Anything goes when you're dependent on someone for something.
    On one side of the scale are the lives of soldiers and people, lost profits when trying to get discounts on your product, minus jobs, minus independence from anyone. On the other side of the scale is elementary reluctance to create one's own and invest in such factoriesThat's it, I don't think it can be any other way.
    That's all you can glean from this article, and it seems to apply everywhere or almost everywhere.
  11. 0
    3 August 2026 13: 24
    If I'm not mistaken, the problem is that they took government subsidies to produce drones from local components, but then violated the contract and engaged in fraud.
  12. 0
    3 August 2026 14: 07
    So, in the end, are Kustov and his comrades to blame or not? Did they embezzle state subsidies or not? Or did they simply fabricate charges yet again to squeeze out a major company? I'd like to find out!
  13. +3
    3 August 2026 16: 18
    For decades, similar schemes operated in the telecom industry in the 00s and 10s; everyone involved knew everything and everyone was happy with it. The state allocated funds from the budget, the state corporation paid the order, and the higher-ups were informed that Russian products were being delivered.
    For example, China's Huawei set up a so-called joint venture in Ufa, where finished goods were simply repackaged into new boxes labeled "Made in Russia." Three days later, the goods were shipped from the warehouse in new packaging.
    A similar scheme operated in Izhevsk, where industrial Siemens telecom equipment manufactured in Germany was repackaged in the same way. And so on down the list. Sapsan, by the way, is also a Siemens product.
    No one will build factories if they already exist in the developing country, and the production lines need to be occupied by the production of products.
    1. 0
      4 August 2026 01: 03
      Quote: AC130 Ganship
      No one will build factories if they already exist in the developing country.

      #whatareyou?
      About 15 years ago, the Belarusians decided to build their own high-speed trains. They purchased the most advanced five-car trains from the Swiss company Stadler. But... the main condition of the purchase was, believe it or not, the construction of a factory in Borisov to produce Belarusian Stadler trains. Geneva agreed. The project was fully implemented. And this wasn't just repackaging or screwdriver assembly, but a full-cycle operation. This factory's orders are booked 10 years in advance.
  14. +1
    4 August 2026 01: 45
    Quote: k7k8
    Quote: AC130 Ganship
    No one will build factories if they already exist in the developing country.

    #whatareyou?
    About 15 years ago, the Belarusians decided to build their own high-speed trains. They purchased the most advanced five-car trains from the Swiss company Stadler. But... the main condition of the purchase was, believe it or not, the construction of a factory in Borisov to produce Belarusian Stadler trains. Geneva agreed. The project was fully implemented. And this wasn't just repackaging or screwdriver assembly, but a full-cycle operation. This factory's orders are booked 10 years in advance.

    So what exactly are these "our own high-speed trains"? Moscow also has beautiful double-decker commuter trains on the Belorusskaya line. I think there are eight of them. The sign says "Made in Switzerland."
    And that robotic line I wrote about above, in Ufa, the Chinese in white coats turned it on every time a big shot from Moscow came to steam up with the local girls in the sauna, and to check out the so-called "production."
  15. 0
    4 August 2026 08: 42
    A rotten system is incapable of reproducing anything whole. There will be rot everywhere from the start. People took on the task without understanding what they were getting themselves into and were doomed from the start.
  16. 0
    5 August 2026 12: 09
    In short, the key is to secure funding and immediately divide it up. This is a modern-day affliction for many businesses targeting the state budget.
  17. +2
    5 August 2026 20: 35
    The focus on rapid and complete import substitution is fundamentally flawed. This should have been done over the last 30 years, not during the implementation of the Second World War.