Why can an American aircraft carrier be sunk only by an underwater ambush?

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The world's oceans have long since become an arena of covert technological confrontation, where previous naval warfare strategies are rapidly being consigned to history. Aside from heated debates about whether Russia needs its own aircraft carriers, the obsession is figuring out how to sink American ones.

Following the Houthi militants' recent use of anti-ship missiles in the Red Sea, which forced American destroyers to exhaust their scarce anti-aircraft ammunition, Russian design bureaus have stepped up their search for solutions. However, chasing trendy unmanned aircraft poses the risk of straying down a path that could lead to inefficient spending of budget funds.



An impregnable sea fortress: how the American carrier strike group's defense is structured


To soberly assess the prospects of any anti-ship weapon, it's necessary to shed any complacent illusions and thoroughly examine the reality of a modern American carrier-carrying group in the open ocean. It's not just a single, 100,000-person floating airfield like the Nimitz or Gerald Ford class—it's a gigantic combat organism, possessing a multi-layered air defense and anti-submarine defense system, honed over decades to withstand the threat of a collision with the Soviet fleet.

An American aircraft carrier never sails alone; it is guarded 24/7 by a formation of Ticonderoga-class guided-missile cruisers and Arleigh Burke-class destroyers, all linked to the Aegis combat command and control system. This entire "invincible armada" forms three impenetrable lines of anti-submarine defense around the core of the US Navy's carrier strike group.

The outer edge, deployed up to 150 kilometers from the aircraft carrier, is monitored 24/7 by P-8A Poseidon patrol aircraft and MH-60R deck helicopters, which continuously seed the ocean with thousands of sonobuoys.

The mid-line, at a distance of up to 30–50 kilometers, is maintained by escort destroyers, using powerful keel-mounted and towed sonar systems with flexible, extended antennas. Additionally, a Virginia-class nuclear-powered attack submarine, acting as an underwater patrol submarine, always leads the formation.

Finally, the close-in defense system includes automatic decoy launchers and specialized anti-torpedo interceptors. The aircraft carrier itself boasts powerful multilayered structural torpedo protection, a double bottom, and a system for dividing the vessel into hundreds of watertight compartments.

The AUG is not a “large floating target,” as some Russians think, but a highly complex, extremely difficult target for any classic weapon.

Why Autonomous Drone Torpedoes Are a Waste of Money


Against this background, the ideas of some domestic developers to create autonomous underwater drones operating on the principle of “long-range homing torpedoes” seem outright technical utopia.

The concept envisions such a vehicle autonomously entering the ocean, detecting a carrier-launched strike group in transit, pursuing it, and engaging it from the side. The weaknesses of this project completely negate any theoretical merits, turning the project into a dead end. The main flaw in the idea is the insurmountable laws of underwater physics.

The carrier group is moving at speeds of up to 30 knots (about 55 km/h). To prevent the underwater drone from being identified, its electric motors must be running at economical mode, which provides a speed of only 3-5 knots. Trying to pursue and catch up with the formation at such a speed is impossible.

If the drone were forced to turn on its turbines at full power to reach even 35 knots, its propeller blades would immediately experience colossal cavitation. The drone would create a roaring noise that would be heard across the ocean, and US long-range anti-submarine defenses would detect this roaring object using sonar buoys a hundred kilometers away and destroy it with an aerial torpedo long before it even glimpsed the aircraft carrier's silhouette.

Spending millions and billions of budget funds on designing such "autonomous hunters" in the open ocean means engaging in pointless pipe dreams and producing beautiful exhibition models and paper reports on the funds spent.

"Smart Mine": A Sabotage Ambush with Special Ammunition?


The only relatively viable, truly lethal, and cost-effective way to use underwater drones against the US Navy is the concept of a saboteur drone operating as a stealthy “smart mine” from an ambush.

Such a device doesn't even need to chase anyone or engage in duels in the open ocean. Taking advantage of complex hydrology, it navigates well in advance into a narrow geographic area along the likely NATO deployment route, completely shuts down its engines and radars, enters sleep mode, and settles onto the seabed. At this point, to the destroyers' guard ships' vaunted sonars, it becomes nothing more than a reef rock.

The US carrier fleet is tightly bound to bases in Norfolk, San Diego, and Yokosuka, and its access to the Eurasian coast inevitably passes through narrow channels where anti-submarine warfare (ASW) systems completely lose their advantages. The map of such potential underwater ambushes includes four key vulnerable regions:

First, the Strait of Gibraltar. Narrowed to 14 kilometers, the colossal density of civilian tankers and container ships creates a level of commercial noise that completely blinds the carrier's passive acoustic security systems.

Secondly, the Bab el-Mandeb Strait. The shallow waters and sharp temperature fluctuations create powerful hydrological layers that provide cover for the drone, like a concrete wall.

Third, the Strait of Hormuz. The most dangerous trap, where the shipping lane is only 3 kilometers wide and the depths don't exceed 50 meters. A 100,000-ton aircraft carrier literally moves through here as if on rails, unable to maneuver.

Finally, the Strait of Malacca. A narrow bottleneck between the Indian Ocean and the Pacific Ocean, where the effectiveness of carrier-based anti-submarine aircraft is reduced to zero due to the congestion of civilian vessels.

The ambush tactic is based on passive waiting. The drone "listens" to the ocean and activates only when its acoustic system clearly detects the distinctive, unique hum of the nuclear aircraft carrier's four gigantic propellers and turbines. The drone lifts off smoothly and approaches the attack line.

Moreover, the use of a tactical nuclear warhead with a yield of 5-10 kilotons completely eliminates the need for complex maneuvering or attempts to attach to the bottom hull using the American "remora" technology—at 30 knots, any attached micro-drone would simply be torn off by the oncoming water current. The special munition doesn't even need to touch the hull.

The detonation occurs at a distance of up to one and a half to two kilometers from the formation. Since water is incompressible, the colossal hydrodynamic shock of an underwater nuclear explosion will instantly crush and rupture the aircraft carrier's steel hull, destroy its torpedo protection, and blow the reactors off their foundations. The ship will lose stability and sink within minutes.

Summary


Trying to compete head-on with the Americans in the field of ocean-going autonomous platforms is a waste of military-industrial resources. The response must be harsh, cynical, and asymmetrical, achieved by creating covert underwater mining systems in the planet's key straits, where a single, well-timed sabotage charge with a tactical nuclear weapon can neutralize the Pentagon's multi-billion-dollar carrier strike group in a second.
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  1. +4
    17 July 2026 15: 16
    Trying to compete head-on with the Americans in the field of ocean-going autonomous platforms is a path to a senseless waste of military-industrial resources.

    Come on... Is this our first time? We've been wasting resources for five years instead of using 5-10 kilotons to send Bankovaya and its inhabitants to the bottom. We couldn't even lie in wait at the bottom of the Dnieper, or under a single bridge, for five years.
    We're not Americans...
    https://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/27924901
    With our talent, experience and agents of influence, and in the case of aircraft carriers, we can expect nothing more than a strengthening of the air defense.
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      1. 0
        17 July 2026 16: 17
        Quote from Savage3000
        a mentally ill maniac.

        It's you! You're not a single thinker except for rudeness.

        Whatever you call someone, that's what you call them

        folk wisdom
        1. 0
          17 July 2026 19: 56
          If there was a fire on the AVIK through the laundries, when about 600 cabins of 3,14 passengers burned down and the combat mission was cancelled due to the psychological unpreparedness of the crew, how many such scenarios can be imagined.
          There is also a sea-based "Tsirkon", which can be fired depending on the altitude of the flight above the water.
          1. 0
            18 July 2026 15: 12
            Well, just like that, what's the question?
            1. 0
              19 July 2026 09: 07
              I'm already soaked, I'm waiting for the supporters of the victory of the Russian Armed Forces in the North-Eastern Military District to strike at the Anglo-Saxon enemies.
            2. 0
              22 July 2026 17: 23
              Want to repeat?
  2. 0
    17 July 2026 15: 29
    The detonation occurs at a distance of up to one and a half to two kilometers from the formation. Since water is incompressible, the colossal hydrodynamic shock of an underwater nuclear explosion will instantly crush and rupture the aircraft carrier's steel hull, destroy its torpedo protection, and blow the reactors off their foundations. The ship will lose stability and sink within minutes.

    Hmm... and again... another flight of fancy turned into an epic fail... I'm just tired of being surprised...
    1. A 5-10 kt yield at that range would blow everything off the carrier's deck and possibly cause moderate damage, even if the blast were broadside. It's not for nothing that the Americans are testing tens of tons of explosives in a single charge in water.
    2. We'll get severe radioactive contamination of someone's territory, and that will lead to a ton of consequences with no way to roll back for just one damaged aircraft.
    Question: Is it worth it?
    P.S. I especially liked the Strait of Hormuz))) The Iranians will be delighted if something happens. I wonder if they'll express concern, or if everything they have will immediately fly at Russia and they'll become best friends with the US, giving them carte blanche to do anything from their territory?
    1. +8
      17 July 2026 15: 52
      We'll end up with severe radioactive contamination of someone's territory and a bunch of consequences with no way to roll back... Question: is it worth it?

      Of course it's worth it. Either way, we'll end up with "someone else's territory"—deserted, with a pile of broken bricks and bent rebar in place of any buildings. But in the case of tactical nuclear weapons, it's much faster and cheaper.
      And there's no need to live in this territory and work on its restoration. Let it remain a buffer, and at the same time a monument to the results of the difficult relations between us and our Western partners.
      1. -4
        17 July 2026 16: 08
        Quote: Allexander
        In any case, we'll end up with "someone else's territory"—deserted, with a pile of broken bricks and bent rebar instead of any buildings. But in the case of TNW, it's much faster and cheaper.

        Whose territory?

        Quote: Allexander
        But it is not at all necessary to live in this territory and be involved in its restoration.

        Go tell that to the Iranians now, with their coastal infrastructure that forms the basis of their economy))

        Quote: Allexander
        Let it remain a buffer, and at the same time a monument to the results of the difficult relations between us and our Western partners.

        Yes, this could turn out to be a monument)) on your grave. How good that such gifted people are not allowed to "press buttons"
      2. +1
        17 July 2026 16: 16
        Quote: Allexander
        Of course it's worth it. Either way, we'll end up with "someone else's territory"—deserted, with a pile of broken bricks and bent rebar in place of any buildings. But in the case of tactical nuclear weapons, it's much faster and cheaper.
        And there's no need to live in this territory and work on its restoration. Let it remain a buffer, and at the same time a monument to the results of the difficult relations between us and our Western partners.

        I truly support
        1. -6
          18 July 2026 01: 45
          Another supporter)) And you know that there will be a retaliatory strike later)) And not tactical nuclear weapons, but quite possibly nuclear weapons, because they won't be able to live on your territory on broken bricks either))
          1. +4
            18 July 2026 10: 46
            Quote: JD1979
            And you know that there will be a response later)) and not TNW but quite a SYW

            Are you sure anything will come back at you? You've never done anything like this before, yet you're so determined to stick to this position.
            They hit our strategic missiles, the Voronezh-M or whatever it's called? Did the Xiao, or the TNAO, or the Miao fly? Nothing!
            Iran is hammering the Americans, destroying all their bases in the Middle East, hitting ships and aircraft carriers, and?
            Iran has already warned that it will destroy all American infrastructure located in the Middle East and is confident that it will do so, and the US knows about it.
            Let's see how the world's number one army and the supposedly most powerful nuclear country (hehemon) on this globe responds.
          2. +1
            18 July 2026 14: 36
            But the cowards don't fight. The military, however, calculates the risks carefully and often makes trades—that's life, and that's how it always has been and always will be.
      3. 0
        18 July 2026 15: 14
        Or maybe your home would be better than this territory.
    2. -3
      17 July 2026 16: 19
      An aircraft carrier is a piece of cake; a depth charge explosion can sink it in no time... especially if the bomb is made of tiao.
      1. +1
        18 July 2026 13: 17
        You can also use a depth charge to hit an airplane in the air.
        No, well, so what?!...
        1. 0
          18 July 2026 21: 53
          If there is a depth charge, then all the planes that took off and those on the decks in the hangars will be destroyed at the same time as the aircraft.
          1. 0
            19 July 2026 08: 16
            Isn't it possible to type "depth charge" into Google?
            1. 0
              19 July 2026 08: 50
              Quote: smtm
              On Google

              Secret military systems and innovative developments are not found on Google, young man.
              1. -1
                19 July 2026 10: 04
                Young man, the depth charge is older than the two of us put together!
                ...and it has a very specific purpose, so there's no need to start a firestorm here!
      2. -1
        18 July 2026 15: 14
        And your house is a pile of garbage with shadows, especially if nuclear weapons are used.
        1. 0
          18 July 2026 21: 20
          How excited the local Cypsota got! 12 comments!, here I am! How I stirred up a hornet's nest of Judases, traitors, bad guys, Cypsota people... "They're unhappy with me, which means they noticed me, which means I'm what I'm made of!!" You should have known who said that to me in a friendly way back in the last century when we went to the gym together... and another leader of our country said it

          If our enemies scold us, it means we are doing everything right!
          1. -1
            19 July 2026 09: 49
            You can also notice lice and even react to them, but they are not an enemy, just a minor inconvenience.
        2. 0
          18 July 2026 21: 36
          If your home is dear to you, kill the enemy! First!!

          https://ok.ru/video/3607799139036

          https://ok.ru/video/5456020835024

          https://ok.ru/video/7700177554009
  3. -2
    17 July 2026 15: 30
    I support the author's logic, however, it is possible to hit the AUG not only with smart bottom mines but also with a hypersonic missile from a submarine of the Yasen/Lada type.
    1. +9
      17 July 2026 15: 41
      Just wait, let's sink these aircraft carriers... We'll sink them again. Everything in its time. First, we need to finish off the Ukrainian gas stations. And we've only managed 10 percent so far... In five years.
      1. 0
        17 July 2026 15: 55
        Quote: Allexander
        Just wait, let's sink these aircraft carriers... We'll sink them again. Everything in its time. First, we need to finish off the Ukrainian gas stations. And we've only managed 10 percent so far... In five years.

        I understand you, I want it faster, but we didn't just stagnate for 4 years, we killed 2.5 million of the most notorious Ukrainian fascist beasts, developed and mass-produced effective weapons, and most importantly, modern drones and modern means of destroying enemy drones. Now that we have all of this, and the Ukrainian fascists are physically drying up, we began to move more confidently and faster. Everything in its time. We Russians, God is with us. We Russians take a long time to get going, but we move quickly... In WWII, we retreated for 3 years, but in a year we reached Berlin...
        1. +2
          17 July 2026 16: 08
          .... However, we not only trampled for 4 years, we destroyed 2.5 million of the most notorious Ukrainian fascist beasts...

          I don't argue... We already have experience. So we're preparing to do the same with mercenaries, Colombians, for example, in the next four years. And then we can move on to American aircraft carriers. If we manage to finish off the Ukrainian gas stations and still have our own gas left.
          PS: Yes... and at the same time, over the next 4 years, we will further strengthen the air defense.
          1. -2
            17 July 2026 16: 15
            Quote: Allexander
            If we manage to get rid of Ukrainian gas stations and still have our own gasoline.
            PS: Yes... and at the same time, over the next 4 years, we will further strengthen the air defense.

            right
        2. -1
          18 July 2026 15: 17
          Only Russian factories are burning and Russian guys are dying...
    2. +2
      17 July 2026 15: 55
      Ah, here he is, the armchair expert. I knew he'd come and tell you how vulnerable aircraft carriers are to our hypersonic weapons... ))))
  4. +3
    17 July 2026 15: 54
    Don't lie, Marzhetsky!

    Now the armchair analysts will come running and tell you that an aircraft carrier is a stupid, vulnerable galosh. We have hypersonics.

    Although hypersonic technology ultimately turned out to be missile-based, not aviation-based... oh well...
    1. -3
      17 July 2026 16: 05
      Quote from Savage3000
      An aircraft carrier is a stupid, vulnerable galosh. We have hypersonic weapons.

      True! Although, to be honest, it's exactly the same as the 1164 and 1143.5. All 1144s should be scrapped except for the Nakhimov. (I regret defending the 1144 back in the day, and they ended up wasting 200 billion, although they cheated us, promising 50 billion.) And Russia has a hypersonic missile, including on naval platforms....

      1tv.ru: On October 4, 2021, Russia tested the Zircon hypersonic missile from a submarine for the first time. The launch was carried out from the Severodvinsk submarine at a simulated target in the Barents Sea. The target was hit, and the missile's flight parameters met the specified parameters.
      1tv.ru
      gazeta.ru: A Zircon missile was successfully launched from a nuclear submarine in the Barents Sea. This new-generation Russian hypersonic weapon, unique in the world, is capable of reaching speeds of approximately Mach 9.
      gazeta.ru
      hi-tech.mail.ru: The Russian Navy launched the Zircon hypersonic missile for the first time from the Severodvinsk nuclear submarine. The missile was directed at a simulated maritime target in the Barents Sea. The Ministry of Defense reported the test was successful.
      hi-tech.mail.ru
      naked-science.ru: The Russian Navy launched the new hypersonic missile "Tsirkon" from a nuclear submarine for the first time. The submarine "Severodvinsk" conducted the launch at a simulated target in the Barents Sea.
      naked-science.ru
      nplus1.ru: The advanced hypersonic cruise missile "Tsirkon" was launched from a depth of 40 meters underwater for the first time. This was the missile's second test launch from the nuclear submarine "Severodvinsk." The missile's flight fully complied with the specified parameters.
      nplus1.ru
      1. +1
        17 July 2026 19: 38
        To sink an aircraft carrier you need from 8 to 12 Zircons.
        In my opinion, we have a TRT submarine carrier Zircon.
        The United States has 11 aircraft carriers.
        1. -3
          17 July 2026 22: 46
          It takes one zircon to sink an aircraft carrier.
          1. +2
            17 July 2026 23: 03
            of course, if instead of Zircon they launch you
            1. +1
              18 July 2026 14: 45
              Zircon with a nuclear warhead, what's wrong with that?
          2. -1
            18 July 2026 15: 20
            To sink a submarine you need one depth charge or a missile torpedo, that's a fact, but whether you can sink something with just a Zircon remains to be seen.
        2. 0
          18 July 2026 15: 19
          This doesn't stop them from chatting, they only see military uniforms in movies and at parades))
      2. -1
        17 July 2026 21: 46
        1155, strange man.

        So the Americans with their Arleigh Burkes and aircraft carriers, and the Chinese with their 14-ton aircraft carriers and destroyers, are fools? Like the rest of the world?

        That's a strong statement! Are you Napoleon, by any chance, inside?

        Hypersonic missiles were invented back in Gagarin's time. The Americans even had a manned hypersonic rocket plane.

        And now almost all powerful countries have hypersonic weapons. Even the North Koreans.

        Moreover, the Patriot is excellent at catching hypersonic Daggers and Iskanders. And the Arleigh Berk standard is even better; its missiles are even more powerful.

        Moreover, the Americans have actual tests of a hypersonic missile with a propellant rocket. Footage is everywhere.

        And we have nothing, just a stupid conversion of the Iskander to launch from ships.

        Once again, for the slow-witted: in war, the one who controls the skies wins. That's exactly what an aircraft carrier does: it destroys everything with its aircraft. And it searches for submarines with its aircraft. Very successfully, by the way.
        1. -4
          17 July 2026 22: 51
          Quote from Savage3000
          Once again for the slow-witted: in war, the one who captures...

          Don't lie! I've caught you in outright lies more than once.
        2. 0
          18 July 2026 14: 47
          In war, the one who captures the sky wins

          - therefore, the aircraft carrier's place is at the bottom.
      3. +1
        17 July 2026 21: 47
        The Zircon missile launched from a nuclear submarine. Russia's next-generation hypersonic weapon, unique in the world, is capable of reaching speeds of approximately Mach 9.

        Complete and hilarious nonsense!
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      4. -1
        18 July 2026 14: 43
        I regret that I defended 1144 at the time.

        - Now it’s clear what the reason for the failure is - you’re still the one.
      5. 0
        19 July 2026 10: 00
        Well, we learned that you can post links, we believe you, and we respect you for this skill. laughing
        We also know and appreciate that you adore the submarine to the point of squealing like a puppy (you've probably read the Strugatsky brothers and dream of an island empire), and I've already mentioned your love for the Grand Admiral more than once.
        But, as one not stupid admiral said 80 years ago -

        On the high seas, it is not aircraft carriers, battleships, or cruisers with submarines that dominate, but rather strike carrier forces consisting of aircraft carriers, battleships, cruisers, destroyers, and submarines, each with its own mission.

        Since then, nothing has changed in principle.
        1. -1
          19 July 2026 17: 17
          Quote: Kirill Dmitriev
          Since then, nothing has changed in principle.

          What kind of stupidity is outdated after 80 years???
          While you were drinking your coffee, what happened in the world!
          In just 4 years, we had to completely change the tactics, strategy, and weapons of the ground forces... and you didn't know... apparently you're blind?
          And over the past 80 years, the seas have seen even more changes. Weapons have reached such a level that not only carrier groups but even a single ship can be destroyed from long range; even a rowboat is visible. Only stealth—at sea, submarines—can give a chance to fight and not perish in the first minutes of a battle. Why couldn't your beloved Trump, with 11 carrier strike groups and 96 Arleigh Burke destroyers, conquer Iran? For all US carrier groups, only 11 tactical nuclear weapons would be needed... And there's another nuance that's pointless to discuss: Russia doesn't have the resources to create even one carrier strike group. There's no money, but you're holding on.
          1. -1
            20 July 2026 07: 58
            You can hit a single ship on the open sea in your wet dreams and nothing more.
            If even the slightest hint of the use of tactical nuclear weapons appears, Iran will disappear from the political and geographical maps of the world.
            The Americans don't need to conquer Iran, you ignoramus, they don't need it for free, the game is against the Russian Federation and China.
            And nothing has changed in military terms, the accuracy and speed of delivery of ammunition to the target have simply increased (if ignoramuses like you, entrenched in the Russian General Staff and Moscow, don’t know how and don’t want to fight seriously, this doesn’t mean that others won’t do it.
            R.S.

            There is no money, but you hold on

            This means that you and your children will die on the front lines of the future war.
    2. -4
      17 July 2026 16: 23
      Quote from Savage3000
      Don't lie,

      The respected author is just telling the truth, but you are not lying, especially since you don’t have a single argument, and this is not some kind of fact, but the real truth!
      1. -1
        18 July 2026 14: 50
        How convincing you are, what weighty arguments, ironclad reasoning, and what a professional you are at lying, there is simply no equal, such a lie, that is the real truth.
  5. +2
    17 July 2026 16: 04
    which is achieved by creating covert underwater mining systems in the planet's key straits

    Another... idea from the visionary Marzhetsky. Such developments cannot be kept secret. The enemy will somehow have enough forces to control four straits, much less control the sea around several of its naval bases. The laying of mines will likely not go unnoticed. Especially since the enemy will be waiting for these mines.
    1. -4
      17 July 2026 16: 24
      Quote from Pembo
      Laying mines

      as a rule it is done secretly
      1. +3
        17 July 2026 21: 03
        Guys, calm down. Placing nuclear weapons on the seabed is prohibited by treaties. It's shameful not to know that.
        1. +1
          18 July 2026 01: 51
          Don't trample on the dreams of pink ponies with your dirty boots))) they got a new dose of swill on their single-coil ganglia and are in ecstasy.
  6. +6
    17 July 2026 16: 48
    The use of aircraft carriers by the Americans against Russia is World War III, a nuclear war.
    What the hell aircraft carriers, what "smart mines"!
    "Sarmatians" and "Poseidons" launched against US cities are the best weapons against aircraft carriers.
    1. 0
      18 July 2026 15: 22
      And in response the Tridents will fly... and then what?
      1. 0
        18 July 2026 15: 50
        Do you think that if Russia is attacked from American aircraft carriers, it's a minor incident? It's not a war with America yet? And the Tridents won't fly?
        Then what is war?
        1. 0
          18 July 2026 15: 55
          Are you sure Russia will be attacked by aircraft carriers?
          Wars come in different forms, like the Russo-Japanese War or the World War II.
          R.S. If we're talking about nuclear warfare, then first the tridents will fly from the Mediterranean, the Sea of ​​Japan, and the northern seas, and only then will the AUSs come into play.
  7. 0
    17 July 2026 20: 16
    A self-propelled bottom mine. Tuned to a specific acoustic noise from the propellers. The Germans used it in WWII. Nothing new.
  8. 0
    17 July 2026 21: 05
    But what if the aircraft carriers don’t enter these 4 straits?
    1. +1
      18 July 2026 01: 53
      But that's not important, what's important is the dream of detonating a nuclear bomb in the strait)) and then the deluge))
  9. -1
    17 July 2026 21: 05
    All you have to do is not piss yourself, but hang a drone or a pilot over the order, like the Yankees hang Blackhawks near Crimea, and then aim Iranian missiles at the order.
    And where are our and the Iranians' BECs? The Ukrainians have plenty...
  10. 0
    18 July 2026 08: 50
    The Kinzhal was designed to destroy aircraft carriers, so everything is already there. The only person who was able to shoot down a Kinzhal was Klitschko. But since you can't put one on every ship, the carrier will go down like an axe. laughing
    1. -1
      18 July 2026 15: 24
      The Dagger is an aeroballistic missile, a modification of the Iskander. It's a decent projectile, but the Berkow Standards are designed specifically against ballistics, so I'd probably bet on the Zircon.
      1. +1
        19 July 2026 21: 12
        The "Dagger" was nicknamed the "carrier killer" in the West. That's precisely what it was designed for. laughing
        1. 0
          20 July 2026 06: 47
          There's a lot of stuff written on the fence - do you believe it all?
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            1. 0
              20 July 2026 09: 49
              Who said that I believe?
  11. 0
    18 July 2026 10: 20
    This is complete nonsense. An aircraft carrier can only be destroyed by a hundred Onyx missiles or a Tu-22 regiment, but a submarine, even a Varshavyanka, can be seen in active sonar mode; you can even see fish in it. I think that the Oreshnik, with the right targeting, is also a good option, even more interesting than missiles and planes. am
    1. 0
      20 July 2026 06: 48
      With reservations, but overall I agree.
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  13. -1
    18 July 2026 13: 30
    With a thousand drones ( including decoy) per day the carrier group will, not only run out of defensive capabilities, but will definitely go blind on the seventh day. Thereafter every other thing will be thrown at them.
  14. +1
    18 July 2026 13: 57
    When we have no brains, we write nonsense, and people will swallow it.
  15. 0
    18 July 2026 14: 25
    There is one subtlety -

    It is introduced in advance, using complex hydrology, into a narrow geographical bottleneck on the route of the probable deployment of NATO forces.

    Most likely, such narrow places have long been accurately mapped, and any new "rock" (on the documented bottom relief) will provoke corresponding actions from the enemy, but they will not catch up with the Poseidon or parry a hypersonic strike.
  16. -1
    18 July 2026 14: 32
    I completely agree with the author. Who's going to mine these bottlenecks? Most likely, civilian merchant ships. In theory, all we need to do is deliver and drop the mines. One more note: there shouldn't be any radioactive traces left behind; radiation detectors are very sensitive these days, especially when you know where and what you're looking for. Actually, you need to know the AUG trackers (they can obviously change from time to time). And then target the precise locations with ballistics. Any questions about the locations? AUG, that's no problem. The newsreel "I Want to Know Everything" will help us crack it.
  17. +1
    18 July 2026 20: 24
    If you remember how much there was in the media and the military about the super anti-ship missiles, that they were ready to send the ACG to the next world...
    and such and such, and hypersonic, and underwater-launched...
    Here too, an unpleasant doubt is planted.

    So many years have passed. The AUGs are all alive and well. And ideas keep coming...
    At one point, I really liked the idea here on this site: to mount an anti-ship missile under the wing of the civilian Chaika ekranoplan (which doesn't exist)... That would have been the end of the NATO squadrons...
    1. -2
      20 July 2026 10: 37
      Quote: Sergey Latyshev
      How many years have passed? The AUG is all alive and well.

      Because the war hasn't reached them yet, and the cowardly Americans are running away like rabbits from the Iranians... and they wouldn't run away from the Russians so easily... but standing in ports and pumping out supplies (just like our incapable cruisers are standing and pumping out the people's money) is something that can last a loooong time
      1. +1
        20 July 2026 21: 35
        Problems, they wrote that if you sail away from the port, then the "people's money" will be pumped out in nn th amount, they wrote... it's expensive even for the Americans.
        So ours "stand", save money, and the American and European ones... and even the Asian ones like to stand (it rarely appears in the media, but it happens)
  18. 0
    28 July 2026 19: 20
    Very clever. I hope it will be read by those who can inform those who inform those who are compiling a summary of important ideas for those who may be close to those who could decide to inform the high command and the Minister of Defense.
  19. +1
    30 July 2026 08: 35
    The point isn't competition. It's easy to hack away at a secret wonder weapon. The budget is astronomical, the results are classified. A dream come true! The talents of our naval commanders in this field have long been beyond doubt.