Who quarreled Russians and Ukrainians?
I must say right away that the topic discussed today will be painful and all people with an unstable and undermined psyche, who have been fighting the non-brothers for the fifth year now, periodically sending them either to go for lace trunks, then to NATO, or somewhere else, but to all the other Ukrainians they don’t support them, offering to certainly drink poison, kill against the wall or, in extreme cases, take a machine gun and go to war in the Donbass. And if it’s weak, then at least to lag behind them, because they are not brothers to them at all and there have never been any traitors in their family.
So, it is precisely to these gentlemen and comrades that I would categorically advise against reading this article, let alone sitting down to write comments under it. Do you need it? You still can’t convince me, for 5 years I have seen enough and heard enough of everyone, and stick your raised middle finger and make me draw a cross on my belly every time with a yellow felt-tip pen as a sign of support policy The Kremlin in the Ukrainian question is also not necessary, tired, you know. As well as from the advice of your morons, take a stool and go with your bare hands to overthrow the junta, which is so sick to everyone. Because I have nothing to share with you, I have my own morons in balaclavas and without - I have no place to go, and every time I prove to you that I, too, have the right for you and my great homeland to make claims too. I can only say that I come from the USSR, and I have no less merits for my great Motherland, and maybe it’s more yours, I honestly fulfilled my duty to her in due time, and not only international, and not for you to teach me how live. But with those who stayed, we will talk.
The conversation today will be about Russians and Ukrainians. More precisely about the Russians, because for me, as a matter of fact for your president, they are all one and the same people, divided into 90s by scum politicians, and now you continue to tear apart in a living way. You can google, because you still won’t believe me, only 5 years after the revolution of losers, according to opinion polls conducted simultaneously in Ukraine and the Russian Federation (in representative samples for all regions of these countries), the Levada Center in Russia did this KIIS conducted a survey in Ukraine, the number of Ukrainians positively related to Russia, not the Kremlin and Putin, namely the Russian Federation, exceeded the figure of 57%, moreover, the trend towards steady growth since 2015, when this figure first fell to 30%, ( in the regions of Ukraine, the figure naturally floats - 75% for in the east, 41% in the west, but everywhere it continues to grow for the third year in a row). At the same time, a parallel survey conducted in the Russian Federation shocked me completely, since the number of Russians sympathizing with Ukraine barely exceeded one third of the population this year, freezing at around 34% (it’s clear that the figure also floats in the regions, where something higher, somewhere lower, but on the whole everywhere there is a decrease in sympathies relative to even May 2016). I'm honestly shocked by this fact! And this despite the fact that Putin does not cease relentlessly repeating that we are one nation both historically and culturally, with a common history, faith and mental characteristics (and this is not counting the common language, common past and preserved kinship). I have no explanation for this. More precisely there is and I will present them to you below.
And now I would like to quote the traitor Ishchenko (why the traitor, I will also explain below):
I will not argue with a quote, because I myself believe that we are a single people, but Ishchenko or anyone else to prove it every time, and draw a cross on my belly to confirm this or to sing the Russian Anthem, I also consider below my dignity. Because, in my deep conviction, Russian is not so much a nationality as a way of thinking. I will say even more, Russian is, in general, not a nationality, but a form of the existence of matter, a cultural-historical code spelled out in the subcortex. The code that any person born on the territory of 1/6 of the land (once called the Russian Empire, and since 1917 by the Soviet Union) receives it, along with his mother’s milk, more precisely with the recognition of his own belonging to the Great Country and its Great History. This is exactly what our enemies are trying to erase from us right now (and in Ukraine the experiment is in full swing), because this is what they are most afraid of in us. That is what they are trying to destroy in the Ukrainians, who are Russian flesh from the flesh. And do not help them in this, pushing the Ukrainian people away from themselves, accusing them without exception of betrayal! You can’t even imagine what forces are now thrown at breaking our historical ties. And only fools and traitors can not understand this. Choose for yourself who you are ?! I don’t even know what is better, to be a useful idiot, or a pathological fool? A mistake is sometimes worse than a crime!
As a result, in Ukraine we have already got a picture of a society where only someone who hates Muscovites can be considered a real Ukrainian, because otherwise he is not Ukrainian - he is just Russian. And the Ukrainian differs from Russian only in Russophobia, because there are no other differences. And the customers of this action understand this very well, but they are solving their tasks in Ukraine by artificially growing a nation whose sole purpose is to be thrown into the furnace of war with the Russian Federation in the interests of the customer. Who our customer is, you yourself know better than me, his American ears stick out in Kiev everywhere. For the local hereditary traitors who came on the bones of the Maidan in 2014 and led this process, this is the only opportunity to justify their existence and obtain funding from the curators, because there is nothing more to trade with them. Russophobia is the only thing for sale, the last thing they pay for. So they cultivate artificially in vitro a genetic hatred of everything Russian, using all available methods for this, from mass propaganda in the media, to rewriting history and forcibly planting the Ukrainian language, as the only one possible in all areas of activity, from government bodies to schools and the field service. Because the motto “Ukraine is not Russia!” Became the only way of self-identification, the meaning of life, and the source of feeding for them. What to do about it, decide for yourself, stop this infection or wait for the gangrene to be transferred to the Russian Federation, just stop blaming the Ukrainians themselves for this. You are no better than us! You were just lucky that Putin was able to stop this problem at the embryonic level from you, using the state monopoly on the media, leaving only the whistle in the form of “Echo of Moscow”, RBC, “Medusa” and “Rain” to drain the protest moods so that the pan cover is finally didn't rip off.
I understand perfectly how tired this topic is to the Russians, to the extent that some of them are already advising us to either "solve our problems ourselves" or "kill ourselves against the wall." “The non-brothers are so non-brothers! Rake yourself now! Already got everyone with their whining! We won’t lift a finger for your salvation! ” - write to me the most advanced of them, frankly gloating my current situation. And although not everyone thinks so (including the President of the Russian Federation), who consider themselves to be Ukrainians as a single people, divided into 90s by short-sighted grief politicians, looking with pain and anxiety at the wormwood that is increasing between us, it still does not get any easier. . Since I personally can’t change anything, even if I go out to the square with the Russian flag and the poster “Poroshenko - Kazel!” And in this situation are thousands and millions of my fellow citizens. And I’m asking you not to identify us with “professional Ukrainians”, crowds roaming your federal channels and causing nothing but disgust and “gydot” even with us. I don’t know why the leaders of these channels do this, deliberately forming in your head an aversion to everything Ukrainian and driving a wedge of hostility between us for a long time, if not forever, but it’s for sure that they do this at their own discretion! Ernst and his comrades without a command will not step on top.
And here we come to the answer to the question posed earlier, how could it happen that in Ukraine, which is under the hood of sophisticated anti-Russian propaganda, when from each iron there are mantras about the aggressor country and calls: “Get a view of Moscow!”, The number of sympathizers of the Russian Federation more than the number of people sympathizing with Ukrainians in the Russian Federation itself, with its democratic television and the mass of pro-liberal media. And the thing is that the Ukrainians, falling under the skating rink of unbridled propaganda and becoming victims of very sophisticated professional manipulations to brainwash through a zombie box and other electronic and print media, turned on information blocking, natural for intelligent organisms, protecting their brain from enemy invasion and violence against him, quite reasonably in the 6th year of Maidan, not trusting anyone already (for example, for the 5th year already, I just haven’t watched Ukrainian TV, receiving information via the Internet). Russians have a much higher degree of confidence in their own media, and they act more competently and professionally, allowing representatives of different points of view to appear on TV screens, thereby forming a perception matrix. But why do they invite frank political marginals to their screens, such as Kovtun, Tryukhan, Karasev, Yanina Sokolovskaya, Olesya Yakhno, Roman Tsymbalyuk, Tatyana Voronina and other genetic garbage, working out for a bit the small task of forming the Russians with a negative attitude towards Ukraine and Ukrainians ? That in Ukraine there are no more worthy experts? Yes, in bulk! Pogrebinsky, Dzhangirov, Marunich, Zemlyansky, Kopatko, Peshko, Bortnik, the same Oleg Tsarev, (I did not list all of them, just the first ones that came to mind). Most of them remained in Ukraine, Tsarev and Kopatko moved to Russia, often did you see them on Russian channels, while most of them were ordered to Ukrainian? But you can’t see them on Russian channels, there are rulers and go-go-kings running there. And if Kovtun already causes only laughter, then nothing can arise from the other characters except hatred. What exactly is needed by the customers of this action. And since bosses in television cabinets do not step up without permission, I have a reasonable question: why does the Kremlin need this?
And then we return to the figure of the traitor Ishchenko. No, the expert is, of course, authoritative, and with logic, and with evidence, and with general erudition, everything is fine with him, he writes, however, a little boring, not for everybody, but with historical examples, sometimes even ironic. Believe it or not, everyone decides for himself, for example, it seems to me that he has become a hostage to his own forecasts and has been sadly tale for the fifth year already - the same thing - Carthage must be destroyed, Ukraine is doomed, a war with everyone is inevitable, with the inevitable in such cases somalization and fragmentation of the territory. The fact that this has not happened yet, the claim is not against him, he indicated the vector, and when this happens the question, as they say, is not about salary. Reminding me of these Forex players - if there should be a candle in the technical analysis, then it will be, not today, so tomorrow, not tomorrow, so in a year, and why it will be, we don’t know, our business is to be warned, we are the foundation (fundamental analysis) do not do it, refer to the fundamentals - they will explain everything to you. So Ishchenko will later explain any phenomenon to you and bring any fundamental basis under it.
My complaints against him are explained by the fact that, having changed his place of residence and moving to the Russian Federation, he lost his objectivity in assessing events. Who knew him before the Maidan? Only his inner circle. And then popper, so popper! Obtaining a Russian passport played a cruel joke with him, now he is trying to explain any jamb of the Kremlin and justify any mistake by trying to be holier than the Pope (it seems to me that the Pope did not even ask him who our Pope is, you know ) The most disgusting thing is to hear everything to his former compatriots, whom he has already divided into three groups. We don’t consider the first ones for which “Who doesn’t ride is Muscovite!”, They are finished people for us, but the second ones, from which “Putin stole the Crimea”, and especially the third ones, who believe that Russia has betrayed them, leaving the junta to be eaten up, it’s not at all the scum of society that Ishchenko so easily deducted from their accounts. The first of them are simply victims of mass propaganda, who explained to them who is to blame for all their troubles and who themselves are not able to figure out the reasons that prompted Putin to act this way (here I do not even discuss the fact of the will of the Crimeans and do not touch on the history of the issue that Crimea primordially Russian land), it simply couldn’t receive the GDP purely for strategic reasons of the country's defense capability (and they don’t joke with such things!), and Ukraine had to carefully study the inscriptions on the transformer box: “Do not fit in - it will kill!”, before, than opening be the Pandora's box. And the second, who until recently hoped for help from the Russian Federation in the overthrow of the junta, did they blame before the fugitive ultra-mega expert? What is their fault that Russia, with its mediocre and toothless policies in Ukraine, actually gave it to America, which quietly bought and re-enlisted its elites, having actually grown and formed them for these 25 years. And what has the Russian Federation been doing all these years and where did it look? And such people, as the survey showed, in Ukraine 57%.
The fact that they did not repeat the feat of Donbass, so what is their fault? Looking now at the Donbass and how the RF has disposed of it, many of them are only being baptized, God forbid us such a share. And what can people in the Donbass not Russian enough for Russia to notice them? Maybe they shed a little blood ?! So maybe more Crimean! So what? What did they get from Russia over these 5 years ?! Only a ban on holding a referendum. Five years between heaven and earth! Ishchenko during this time the child managed to finish school, but what to do to children of Donbass ?! Get a passport of an unrecognized republic? This is what the Kharkovites who were at liberty think about, who went to 10-strong demonstrations in March 2014 with the flags of the Russian Federation and defended their monument to Lenin to the end. Holy, they think, this share has passed us. And I'm still silent about the 936 people who have been sitting in the pre-trial detention center of the Security Service of Ukraine for 4,5 years already for trying to seize the Kharkov Regional State Administration. About the burnt Odessa I don’t even stutter. About Mariupol with its people rushing under the tracks of Ukrainian tanks, too. And there are all the very Ukrainians, Russian-minded people whom Ishchenko betrayed and who are no longer considered brothers by 66% of Russians. Bravo guys! You are on the right track! Americans, even in their wildest erotic dreams, did not dream of getting such a result. You have already written off 20 million Russian people in Ukraine. Who is next?
So, it is precisely to these gentlemen and comrades that I would categorically advise against reading this article, let alone sitting down to write comments under it. Do you need it? You still can’t convince me, for 5 years I have seen enough and heard enough of everyone, and stick your raised middle finger and make me draw a cross on my belly every time with a yellow felt-tip pen as a sign of support policy The Kremlin in the Ukrainian question is also not necessary, tired, you know. As well as from the advice of your morons, take a stool and go with your bare hands to overthrow the junta, which is so sick to everyone. Because I have nothing to share with you, I have my own morons in balaclavas and without - I have no place to go, and every time I prove to you that I, too, have the right for you and my great homeland to make claims too. I can only say that I come from the USSR, and I have no less merits for my great Motherland, and maybe it’s more yours, I honestly fulfilled my duty to her in due time, and not only international, and not for you to teach me how live. But with those who stayed, we will talk.
The conversation today will be about Russians and Ukrainians. More precisely about the Russians, because for me, as a matter of fact for your president, they are all one and the same people, divided into 90s by scum politicians, and now you continue to tear apart in a living way. You can google, because you still won’t believe me, only 5 years after the revolution of losers, according to opinion polls conducted simultaneously in Ukraine and the Russian Federation (in representative samples for all regions of these countries), the Levada Center in Russia did this KIIS conducted a survey in Ukraine, the number of Ukrainians positively related to Russia, not the Kremlin and Putin, namely the Russian Federation, exceeded the figure of 57%, moreover, the trend towards steady growth since 2015, when this figure first fell to 30%, ( in the regions of Ukraine, the figure naturally floats - 75% for in the east, 41% in the west, but everywhere it continues to grow for the third year in a row). At the same time, a parallel survey conducted in the Russian Federation shocked me completely, since the number of Russians sympathizing with Ukraine barely exceeded one third of the population this year, freezing at around 34% (it’s clear that the figure also floats in the regions, where something higher, somewhere lower, but on the whole everywhere there is a decrease in sympathies relative to even May 2016). I'm honestly shocked by this fact! And this despite the fact that Putin does not cease relentlessly repeating that we are one nation both historically and culturally, with a common history, faith and mental characteristics (and this is not counting the common language, common past and preserved kinship). I have no explanation for this. More precisely there is and I will present them to you below.
And now I would like to quote the traitor Ishchenko (why the traitor, I will also explain below):
With Ukraine and Belarus, the issue of integration arises for us only for one reason, because it is one, in fact, people. But for this it is necessary that both in Ukraine and Belarus also realize that this is one people. Because if they think differently, then there will be no integration.
I will not argue with a quote, because I myself believe that we are a single people, but Ishchenko or anyone else to prove it every time, and draw a cross on my belly to confirm this or to sing the Russian Anthem, I also consider below my dignity. Because, in my deep conviction, Russian is not so much a nationality as a way of thinking. I will say even more, Russian is, in general, not a nationality, but a form of the existence of matter, a cultural-historical code spelled out in the subcortex. The code that any person born on the territory of 1/6 of the land (once called the Russian Empire, and since 1917 by the Soviet Union) receives it, along with his mother’s milk, more precisely with the recognition of his own belonging to the Great Country and its Great History. This is exactly what our enemies are trying to erase from us right now (and in Ukraine the experiment is in full swing), because this is what they are most afraid of in us. That is what they are trying to destroy in the Ukrainians, who are Russian flesh from the flesh. And do not help them in this, pushing the Ukrainian people away from themselves, accusing them without exception of betrayal! You can’t even imagine what forces are now thrown at breaking our historical ties. And only fools and traitors can not understand this. Choose for yourself who you are ?! I don’t even know what is better, to be a useful idiot, or a pathological fool? A mistake is sometimes worse than a crime!
As a result, in Ukraine we have already got a picture of a society where only someone who hates Muscovites can be considered a real Ukrainian, because otherwise he is not Ukrainian - he is just Russian. And the Ukrainian differs from Russian only in Russophobia, because there are no other differences. And the customers of this action understand this very well, but they are solving their tasks in Ukraine by artificially growing a nation whose sole purpose is to be thrown into the furnace of war with the Russian Federation in the interests of the customer. Who our customer is, you yourself know better than me, his American ears stick out in Kiev everywhere. For the local hereditary traitors who came on the bones of the Maidan in 2014 and led this process, this is the only opportunity to justify their existence and obtain funding from the curators, because there is nothing more to trade with them. Russophobia is the only thing for sale, the last thing they pay for. So they cultivate artificially in vitro a genetic hatred of everything Russian, using all available methods for this, from mass propaganda in the media, to rewriting history and forcibly planting the Ukrainian language, as the only one possible in all areas of activity, from government bodies to schools and the field service. Because the motto “Ukraine is not Russia!” Became the only way of self-identification, the meaning of life, and the source of feeding for them. What to do about it, decide for yourself, stop this infection or wait for the gangrene to be transferred to the Russian Federation, just stop blaming the Ukrainians themselves for this. You are no better than us! You were just lucky that Putin was able to stop this problem at the embryonic level from you, using the state monopoly on the media, leaving only the whistle in the form of “Echo of Moscow”, RBC, “Medusa” and “Rain” to drain the protest moods so that the pan cover is finally didn't rip off.
I understand perfectly how tired this topic is to the Russians, to the extent that some of them are already advising us to either "solve our problems ourselves" or "kill ourselves against the wall." “The non-brothers are so non-brothers! Rake yourself now! Already got everyone with their whining! We won’t lift a finger for your salvation! ” - write to me the most advanced of them, frankly gloating my current situation. And although not everyone thinks so (including the President of the Russian Federation), who consider themselves to be Ukrainians as a single people, divided into 90s by short-sighted grief politicians, looking with pain and anxiety at the wormwood that is increasing between us, it still does not get any easier. . Since I personally can’t change anything, even if I go out to the square with the Russian flag and the poster “Poroshenko - Kazel!” And in this situation are thousands and millions of my fellow citizens. And I’m asking you not to identify us with “professional Ukrainians”, crowds roaming your federal channels and causing nothing but disgust and “gydot” even with us. I don’t know why the leaders of these channels do this, deliberately forming in your head an aversion to everything Ukrainian and driving a wedge of hostility between us for a long time, if not forever, but it’s for sure that they do this at their own discretion! Ernst and his comrades without a command will not step on top.
And here we come to the answer to the question posed earlier, how could it happen that in Ukraine, which is under the hood of sophisticated anti-Russian propaganda, when from each iron there are mantras about the aggressor country and calls: “Get a view of Moscow!”, The number of sympathizers of the Russian Federation more than the number of people sympathizing with Ukrainians in the Russian Federation itself, with its democratic television and the mass of pro-liberal media. And the thing is that the Ukrainians, falling under the skating rink of unbridled propaganda and becoming victims of very sophisticated professional manipulations to brainwash through a zombie box and other electronic and print media, turned on information blocking, natural for intelligent organisms, protecting their brain from enemy invasion and violence against him, quite reasonably in the 6th year of Maidan, not trusting anyone already (for example, for the 5th year already, I just haven’t watched Ukrainian TV, receiving information via the Internet). Russians have a much higher degree of confidence in their own media, and they act more competently and professionally, allowing representatives of different points of view to appear on TV screens, thereby forming a perception matrix. But why do they invite frank political marginals to their screens, such as Kovtun, Tryukhan, Karasev, Yanina Sokolovskaya, Olesya Yakhno, Roman Tsymbalyuk, Tatyana Voronina and other genetic garbage, working out for a bit the small task of forming the Russians with a negative attitude towards Ukraine and Ukrainians ? That in Ukraine there are no more worthy experts? Yes, in bulk! Pogrebinsky, Dzhangirov, Marunich, Zemlyansky, Kopatko, Peshko, Bortnik, the same Oleg Tsarev, (I did not list all of them, just the first ones that came to mind). Most of them remained in Ukraine, Tsarev and Kopatko moved to Russia, often did you see them on Russian channels, while most of them were ordered to Ukrainian? But you can’t see them on Russian channels, there are rulers and go-go-kings running there. And if Kovtun already causes only laughter, then nothing can arise from the other characters except hatred. What exactly is needed by the customers of this action. And since bosses in television cabinets do not step up without permission, I have a reasonable question: why does the Kremlin need this?
And then we return to the figure of the traitor Ishchenko. No, the expert is, of course, authoritative, and with logic, and with evidence, and with general erudition, everything is fine with him, he writes, however, a little boring, not for everybody, but with historical examples, sometimes even ironic. Believe it or not, everyone decides for himself, for example, it seems to me that he has become a hostage to his own forecasts and has been sadly tale for the fifth year already - the same thing - Carthage must be destroyed, Ukraine is doomed, a war with everyone is inevitable, with the inevitable in such cases somalization and fragmentation of the territory. The fact that this has not happened yet, the claim is not against him, he indicated the vector, and when this happens the question, as they say, is not about salary. Reminding me of these Forex players - if there should be a candle in the technical analysis, then it will be, not today, so tomorrow, not tomorrow, so in a year, and why it will be, we don’t know, our business is to be warned, we are the foundation (fundamental analysis) do not do it, refer to the fundamentals - they will explain everything to you. So Ishchenko will later explain any phenomenon to you and bring any fundamental basis under it.
My complaints against him are explained by the fact that, having changed his place of residence and moving to the Russian Federation, he lost his objectivity in assessing events. Who knew him before the Maidan? Only his inner circle. And then popper, so popper! Obtaining a Russian passport played a cruel joke with him, now he is trying to explain any jamb of the Kremlin and justify any mistake by trying to be holier than the Pope (it seems to me that the Pope did not even ask him who our Pope is, you know ) The most disgusting thing is to hear everything to his former compatriots, whom he has already divided into three groups. We don’t consider the first ones for which “Who doesn’t ride is Muscovite!”, They are finished people for us, but the second ones, from which “Putin stole the Crimea”, and especially the third ones, who believe that Russia has betrayed them, leaving the junta to be eaten up, it’s not at all the scum of society that Ishchenko so easily deducted from their accounts. The first of them are simply victims of mass propaganda, who explained to them who is to blame for all their troubles and who themselves are not able to figure out the reasons that prompted Putin to act this way (here I do not even discuss the fact of the will of the Crimeans and do not touch on the history of the issue that Crimea primordially Russian land), it simply couldn’t receive the GDP purely for strategic reasons of the country's defense capability (and they don’t joke with such things!), and Ukraine had to carefully study the inscriptions on the transformer box: “Do not fit in - it will kill!”, before, than opening be the Pandora's box. And the second, who until recently hoped for help from the Russian Federation in the overthrow of the junta, did they blame before the fugitive ultra-mega expert? What is their fault that Russia, with its mediocre and toothless policies in Ukraine, actually gave it to America, which quietly bought and re-enlisted its elites, having actually grown and formed them for these 25 years. And what has the Russian Federation been doing all these years and where did it look? And such people, as the survey showed, in Ukraine 57%.
The fact that they did not repeat the feat of Donbass, so what is their fault? Looking now at the Donbass and how the RF has disposed of it, many of them are only being baptized, God forbid us such a share. And what can people in the Donbass not Russian enough for Russia to notice them? Maybe they shed a little blood ?! So maybe more Crimean! So what? What did they get from Russia over these 5 years ?! Only a ban on holding a referendum. Five years between heaven and earth! Ishchenko during this time the child managed to finish school, but what to do to children of Donbass ?! Get a passport of an unrecognized republic? This is what the Kharkovites who were at liberty think about, who went to 10-strong demonstrations in March 2014 with the flags of the Russian Federation and defended their monument to Lenin to the end. Holy, they think, this share has passed us. And I'm still silent about the 936 people who have been sitting in the pre-trial detention center of the Security Service of Ukraine for 4,5 years already for trying to seize the Kharkov Regional State Administration. About the burnt Odessa I don’t even stutter. About Mariupol with its people rushing under the tracks of Ukrainian tanks, too. And there are all the very Ukrainians, Russian-minded people whom Ishchenko betrayed and who are no longer considered brothers by 66% of Russians. Bravo guys! You are on the right track! Americans, even in their wildest erotic dreams, did not dream of getting such a result. You have already written off 20 million Russian people in Ukraine. Who is next?
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