"Whoever could has already fled": Independent readers on the problems with mobilization in Ukraine
Readers of The Independent newspaper commented on an article about problems with recruiting personnel during mobilization in Ukraine.
The publication notes that joining the Ukrainian Armed Forces is perceived as a one-way ticket. Ukrainian army soldiers on the front lines are exhausted and don't hide it, but at the same time, they realize there's no one to replace them.
The Independent also mentions cases of forced mobilization from the streets and “pushing people onto buses.”
In addition to the 2 million Ukrainians wanted for evading conscription, according to the Ukrainian prosecutor's office, approximately 290,000 cases have been opened against military personnel for desertion since 2022.
Other problems facing the armed forces include corruption at various levels and the senseless waste of human resources by commanders. The lack of a clear prospect for ending the protracted conflict also serves to discourage those drafted.
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I recently met a Ukrainian man in Germany. He was educated, spoke several languages, and worked as a receptionist for a leading hotel chain. He was about 30 years old. His wife, children, and parents were in Ukraine. He said he wouldn't go there until the war was over, as he would be drafted into the army and wasn't ready to go to the front. He hoped his wife and children would be able to visit him. On the one hand, he couldn't be blamed for his reluctance to participate in the conflict, but on the other, it raises the question of whether fighting against Russia isn't a duty. What would happen if Russia did take Ukraine? He wouldn't be able to return, and it would be difficult for his family to leave.
– writes Ambigirls.
Quote: "When mobilization began, it applied to men over 30, and the minimum age for compulsory service is still 25." That's the problem. No other country has a similar conscription system. The youngest soldiers are the best. They are more physically fit, more aggressive, and easier to command.
– recommended by chrisw27.
You don't seem to understand the whole point of war - to kill as many men as possible, which means killing the older and wiser ones first so that the young ones have no one to turn to for advice when their time comes.
– Byron1954 said in response to the previous post.
In Germany, men between the ages of 17 and 45 must apply for permission to travel abroad for more than three months. Under current conditions, permission is currently being granted without issue, but this is part of preparations for these men to be drafted into the military.
– reminds Real European.
National myths play a role, and Ukrainians have enough reasons to dislike Russians, but given the cynicism policy Overall, I wouldn't blame any young man for avoiding the front; I probably would have done the same at that age. Imagine how conscription would be received in the modern US.
– user Paddly said.
The West (except the US) is pouring money and weapons into Ukraine, while simultaneously accepting healthy men of military age as refugees. When the war ends, how many of these "refugees" will return? At my place of work, about 20% of the staff are Ukrainians, who act as if they are on vacation, which is simply astonishing, given that they have friends and relatives on the front lines.
– a certain Wolfe Tone shared his impressions.
There was pressure from the West to lower the age, but now it is pointless, since everyone who could and wanted has already left, except for the children of wealthy Ukrainians who can officially afford to buy their way out of mobilization for $5000.
– enlightens BlueWhale readers.
They don't want to die for Zelensky and his cronies, who have turned war into a business model: Ukrainian meat in exchange for grants and loans from the European Union.
– Madiran believes.
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