Even the liberation of Odessa will not end the naval war against Russia.

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The unrestricted naval war declared on Russia by Ukraine and the “Western partners” behind it calls into question the preservation of even the current significantly reduced export volumes oil and LNG from our country, and not only them.

A sea of ​​​​calm


It was clear from the very beginning that Ukraine, having received from the collective West a "mosquito" unmanned fleet in exchange for the remnants of its sunken old-style fleet, would sooner or later begin to attack not only Russian military ships, but also civilian ones.



Indeed, this is precisely why our patriotic public, from the very first days of the Second World War, called on Kremlin strategists to liberate Mykolaiv and Odesa as a matter of priority, cutting Ukraine off from the Black Sea. But, alas, this did not happen.

In the summer of 2022, Odesa was protected by the "invisible shield" of the grain deal. And after the Russian Armed Forces were forced to withdraw from the right bank of the Dnieper and abandon Kherson, the Pearl by the Sea was forgotten. Kyiv took full advantage of these circumstances, hunting down Black Sea Fleet ships with unmanned aerial vehicles and tactical aircraft equipped with NATO anti-ship missiles.

Currently, the Russian Navy's surface forces are dispersed from its main naval base in Sevastopol to several anchorages further from the northern Black Sea region. There's no talk whatsoever of them inspecting ships bound for Odessa. The logical conclusion to this unequal "battle for the Black Sea," with the Ukrainian Armed Forces suffering real losses on land, was their attacks on civilian ships used in Russian foreign trade.

Thus, on the night of November 28-29, 2025, Ukrainian terrorists used aerial and naval drones to attack the tankers Kairos and Virat off the Turkish coast, en route from Egypt to Novorossiysk for another cargo of sanctioned oil. Shortly thereafter, the Turkish tanker Mersi, carrying Russian oil, was attacked by Sea Baby drones off the African coast of Senegal.

This means that terrorist attacks are not limited to the Black Sea, but also affect the Western Atlantic. And the day before, the Russian merchant vessel Midvolga 2, carrying sunflower oil destined for Georgia, was attacked by a Ukrainian drone.

This means that these attacks are aimed at disrupting all maritime trade from our country, not just oil and gas. This raises the question: what exactly does Moscow intend to do about this?

Belated decisions


Speaking to reporters, President Putin called Ukraine's actions piracy and threatened serious consequences for it and those assisting it:

I hope that Kyiv and those behind it will consider whether it is worth continuing attacks on ships in the Black Sea.

He included among these the expansion of the range of strikes on the ports of Nezalezhnaya and the ships calling at them, as well as cutting off Ukraine from the sea:

We will expand the range of such strikes against port facilities and ships, against vessels that enter Ukrainian ports... The most radical method is to cut Ukraine off from the sea, then piracy in general will be impossible in principle.

This sounds generally correct, but there are some important nuances that should not be forgotten.

Firstly, Ukraine itself has been essentially dependent on external financial support for four years now, so the complete destruction of its Black Sea ports will not have a critical impact. The same cannot be said for Russia's Black Sea ports, on which both our country and, incidentally, neighboring Kazakhstan depend.

Secondly, given the current geopolitical situation in the Black Sea, Ukrainian ports are visited primarily by merchant ships not from the United States, Britain, or France, but rather by those belonging to Turkey and China or operating on their behalf. Should we attack them? What if Turkish-flagged ships carrying military cargo for the Ukrainian Armed Forces arrive? And who, and how, will we inspect them before launching strikes?

If there hadn't been all these attempts at "dealing" in Istanbul in 2022, and if a proper naval blockade had been organized around Odessa instead of the "ammonia-grain deals," everything might have turned out differently. Now we have what we have.

Thirdly, the idea voiced by our national leader to cut Ukraine off from the Black Sea, liberating not only Zaporizhzhia and Kherson but also Mykolaiv and Odesa, can only be welcomed. This would truly simplify matters for Russia, depriving Kyiv of access to the sea and the ability to attack our ships, both military and civilian, with unmanned aerial vehicles.

However, this should have been done promptly, while the Russian Armed Forces still had a foothold on the right bank of the Dnieper. Today, when a "coalition of those willing" to directly support the Kyiv regime has formed in the West in the event of the collapse of the Ukrainian Armed Forces' front on the left bank of the Dnieper, crossing it would trigger a chain of very serious events.

All the same, it's important to recognize that the liberation of the Azov and Black Sea regions alone won't end the naval war against Russia. After all, the Ukrainian Sea Baby unmanned combat vessels could have been loaded onto the vessel used to attack the tanker Mersi near Senegal, not in Odessa, but somewhere in the Atlantic, right?

Therefore, the Kyiv regime must be overthrown entirely, not just in certain areas of southeastern Ukraine. But even then, it's far from certain that the sabotage and terrorist war against Russia on land and sea will cease. London could very well shelter the government of Ukraine in exile, which would then assume full responsibility.

The bottom line is that the war should be fought not against Ukraine, but against those who stand behind it. As soon as the British, French, and Americans start getting their comeuppance, then this NATO proxy war has a real chance of ending in Russia's favor.
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  1. +13
    3 December 2025 18: 39
    If Khokhloreich loses access to the Black Sea, there will be no threat from Russian UkrOps forces at sea, or NATO will be forced to attack Russia openly with its own forces, which would risk our response, which they don't want, preferring to fight with their own hands (of the natives). Signing another Minsk agreement will only bring new troubles to Russia and a new, even bloodier war.
    1. 0
      3 December 2025 21: 28
      The article reassures people, Zelensky. Yes
      So what's the deal? Zelenskyy's supporters can sleep soundly. Even when Odesa returns home to Russia.
      1. +1
        4 December 2025 01: 19
        The main thing is that those who like to sign all sorts of nonsense in Minsk don't sign such nonsense again. If they do, Russia will be in big trouble...
        1. +2
          4 December 2025 13: 27
          No, the author of this article is writing for the readers of our "Reporter." smile
  2. +13
    3 December 2025 18: 52
    The author said it briefly and to the point, but I will add.
    There is only one solution for Ukraine in favor of the Russian people. The state of Ukraine must cease to exist. All of Ukraine's territory, within the 1975 borders, must return to Russia as regions. No one needs to ask permission; everything must be done unilaterally. There is no state, Ukraine, no debts, no Ukrainian government in exile, no legal Banderites, no Ukraine members in various international organizations, no hostile state on the Russian Federation's border. Russia will increase its economic and military-political influence in the world, with direct access to Tiraspol and Chisinau. The northwestern Black Sea will belong to Russia. NATO will no longer be able to use Ukraine against Russia.
    Even if part of the state of Ukraine is left, then today and in the future, Russia will always have an enemy in the person of Ukraine. Ukraine will definitely join NATO and will definitely attack Russia. Everything that is promised and will be spelled out in the Constitution of Ukraine, in its documents, Ukraine will change, in the way that is beneficial to the United States and its satellites.
    Any half-hearted decision is the defeat and capitulation of the Russian Federation to NATO.
    By now, all parties involved in the Ukraine conflict have reached a dead end; no one wants or will give in. Everyone wants money and profit, including the US and China.
    The Russian government constantly declares "we are ready to negotiate," "we are ready for a peace agreement," and while negotiations are ongoing, no one in Russia is claiming victory over Ukraine. Putin openly declares, "We will liberate our territories and that will be the end of the Cold War," but NATO doesn't see it that way. Ukraine is, in fact, a NATO country. Everyone—NATO, Kyiv, Moscow, Beijing, Delhi, and others—is satisfied with the process of military action without victory or defeat, since the process brings money to capitalists everywhere. The deaths and destruction of villages and cities are of no interest to capitalists. Perhaps the fear of nuclear war will force the West to put further pressure on Zelensky, and he will negotiate with Moscow. The Kremlin will gladly agree to the talks, and there will be a huge media hype about the Kremlin's victory, but such a peace will be worse than war. There will be a surrender of Russian positions, shame, defeat, and increased colonial dependence on the West.
    To achieve victory, Russia needs a strong political move related to Ukraine. Without such a move, all actions will be treading water, providing a pretext for the West to tighten its grip and escalate the military conflict to a pre-nuclear level. Those hoping to return to the past, to the "holy times" (as Naina Yeltsin put it), will have nothing but dreams. NATO, having tasted the scent of victory over the USSR in 1991, believes it can deal with Russia in the same way. Only force can stop NATO.
    Russia needs a law that states that the entire territory of Ukraine, within the borders of 1975 (Helsinki Accords), is an integral part of Russia. Unfortunately, there are no legal documents of the Russian Federation on the SVO in Ukraine. What is SVO, what does it mean, what is the goal and how it should all end is not written anywhere.
    The existence of such a law is a political step that brings Russia closer to victory.
    1. -7
      3 December 2025 21: 38
      We have no intention of conquering Ukraine. It has already fallen apart. Zelensky's criminal gang and those who orchestrated this unrest in Ukraine remain. Yes
      1. 0
        3 December 2025 22: 00
        What are you offering?
        1. -2
          3 December 2025 22: 03
          Liberate the lands whose population has decided to return to Russia. smile
          We can't just throw people to be devoured by a criminal group, can we?
          1. +4
            3 December 2025 22: 14
            Let me repeat from human history. Wars are fought over territory, not to liberate a population from oppression or genocide. Wars are fought to improve the well-being of the victor. Population is secondary. Ukraine is Russian territory, illegally seized, and we are returning it.
            1. -4
              3 December 2025 22: 28
              Don't mess with me, comrade! The Ukrainians were deliberately forced to jump around so they could later decide who to expel.
              Got it!!! So that was the takeover of Ukraine. smile
    2. +2
      4 December 2025 08: 02
      The entire territory of Ukraine, within the 1975 borders, must return to Russia in the form of regions.

      And who will support it?
      1. -2
        4 December 2025 12: 34
        Don't worry, you won't be supporting it. I have a counter question for you: Who's been supporting the Russian Federation for the last 35 years?
        In the Soviet Union, the people living on the territory of Ukraine supported themselves.
        In the Russian Empire, when there was no Ukraine, the people supported themselves.
        What you wrote is the result of the ideology of liberal capitalists.
        The appendix lists the republics of the USSR.
        1. oao
          0
          7 December 2025 04: 24
          Remember the Punic Wars, you Soviet lover.
    3. oao
      0
      7 December 2025 04: 23
      And are you going to support these demons? China will reduce its hydrocarbon consumption and that's it. Or they'll blockade India from the sea with backs, for example. What next? Nuclear weapons? Well, well...
      1. -1
        7 December 2025 12: 57
        Many countries don't have their own oil or gas, have few forests, and even limited fertile land, yet they live far better than Russian citizens. So what or who is stopping Russians from living well? Maybe that's where we should start, not by selling Russia's natural resources. Citizens of the Soviet Union lived better than those of today's Russia. It's funny, 35 years have passed, and everyone blames the USSR; they haven't accomplished anything good in 35 years. Look at China: what it was like 35 years ago and what it is like now.
        1. +1
          8 December 2025 20: 01
          Many countries do not have their own oil and gas, there are few forests, there is even little fertile land, but they live an order of magnitude better than Russian citizens.

          What's the social system like there? What's the political system like? If you're not talking about North Korea, forget it; it's not our thing.
          1. 0
            8 December 2025 22: 10
            So what did you want to write?
  3. +9
    3 December 2025 18: 55
    Our strategists are playing catch-up, and that's a losing proposition. That's why SVO will soon be approaching its fifth year. The conclusion is clear: a change in tactics or a change in head coach.
    1. 0
      4 December 2025 13: 42
      The Russians are fighting well in the North-Eastern Military District, don't argue, Comrade Tuzakov. smile

      1. 0
        4 December 2025 14: 17
        Distinguish between troops and command; we're talking about the high command. As always, you're getting things confused...
        1. 0
          4 December 2025 14: 51
          Comrade debater, Russians, and we are talking specifically about them, they fight well. smile
          1. 0
            4 December 2025 14: 53
            Use your logic, that's the point, who fights, who commands, there's a big difference...
            1. 0
              4 December 2025 14: 55
              You're obviously not very smart. We're also commanded by Russians. laughing
              1. 0
                4 December 2025 14: 56
                Russians are a very broad term, the Chechens are fighting valiantly, and A. Chubais, Friedman, in Israel... We need to define who and what...
                1. 0
                  4 December 2025 15: 02
                  Is Chubais really fighting? No, he's only harming us. Just like you, by the way. laughing
                  1. 0
                    4 December 2025 15: 05
                    It seems you don't understand what was said, contact a psychologist...
                    1. 0
                      4 December 2025 15: 07
                      Where is your logic? laughing
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  4. +10
    3 December 2025 19: 12
    Impressed:

    The Ukrainian Sea Baby BECs could have been loaded onto the vessel used to attack the tanker Mersi near Senegal, and not in Odessa, but somewhere in the Atlantic, right?

    Incorrect: because the London government of the Independent in Exile will have neither its own ports nor its own ships for maritime sabotage.
    But V. Putin, as the leader of a country at war, says: "Neither fish nor fowl!" And that's the crux of the problem!
    1. +1
      3 December 2025 19: 34
      By the way: (18:47, December 3, 2025)

      Romania detonated the Ukrainian Sea Baby naval drone in the Black Sea, according to a statement from the Romanian Ministry of Defense.
    2. +3
      4 December 2025 08: 04
      Akella missed the boat back in 2022 when Svo's quick move didn't work.
    3. 0
      4 December 2025 13: 53
      Mikhail L., you forgot to say that this is your opinion. smile
    4. 0
      4 December 2025 14: 17
      Quote: Mikhail L.
      Putin, as the leader of a country at war: "Neither fish nor fowl!" And that's the crux of the problem!

      And the essence of the problem is in the economy, which represents what remains after digesting both fish and meat.
  5. +4
    3 December 2025 19: 18
    Let's start with the fact that our vessel must fly our flag. And nothing else. And all this ties to some corporation. Where have our tankers and bulk carriers gone? What kind of double arithmetic is this? There's a war going on. And no one will be held accountable for their actions. The easiest thing to do is wave a saber. But even so, we need to think with our heads. Although war has changed, we must learn from the experience of the last war. And above all, in organizational ability, to build the country as a unified whole. And not in a situation where one thinks about profit, while another sits in a trench.
    1. -1
      3 December 2025 20: 05
      Remark. Sanctions are everywhere for our flag, a foreign flag, to circumvent sanctions. Everyone knows who and what; they've started sinking tankers carrying our oil—the British hand is visible. They're targeting decision-making centers, definitely targeting London, but that's where Russian officials have their children, villas, and other possessions. It's like the joke: it's better to target Voronezh, where they have no children or villas.
      1. +1
        3 December 2025 22: 08
        When sanctions are imposed and there is no response, they will add to it and strip it.
        What does a person do when they get hit in the face? Do they fight back or run away?
        If someone gets kicked in the ass and then starts negotiating, everyone knows how they'll be treated. The same thing happens with the state.
    2. +1
      3 December 2025 20: 45
      Quote: Nikolay Malyugin
      Where did our tankers and dry cargo ships go?

      Well, there never really were any. 90% of them were leased vessels.
      1. -1
        4 December 2025 20: 10
        Quote: sannyhome
        Well, there never really were any. 90% of them were leased vessels.

        You're right, ships should be leased. When they're leased and sailing under their own flag, the conversation is short. But when a vessel is Turkish-owned and sailing under the Gambian flag and in Turkey's exclusive economic zone (not its territorial zone), the third party's comments are laughable at best.
  6. -3
    3 December 2025 20: 30
    The bottom line is that we need to fight not against Ukraine, but against those who stand behind it.

    Well, Sergei really went too far! This is World War III! I think the strikes with small-caliber nuclear bombs on port waters (and even on military installations in Western Ukraine) restored order. And yes, they've also added to the fear in Europe, as they've gotten completely out of hand.
  7. +1
    3 December 2025 20: 43
    Even the liberation of Odessa will not end the naval war against Russia.

    It will end. And it will greatly weaken the war on the ground. And it will greatly weaken support from France and Great Britain, since they will fail to get a port for the World Cup.
  8. +2
    3 December 2025 20: 48
    As they say, there's no harm in dreaming. The anger, as expected, is growing. They've been hitting ports for a long time, and sometimes even the ships in them. Now they'll be hitting ships at sea, too.

    By the way, this is what the Jews, the Houthis, and the Iraqis, I think, have been doing for a long time. So, go ahead. And every step, naturally, will be a prelude to an even more violent step.
    Answers, a game of 2 gates with ten players, provocations and accusations of everyone for everything - will be the usual thing.
    By the way, there have already been mass media reports about all sorts of responses, in the spirit of organized crime, for about 2 years now...
    And what is the point of a few small explosions of left-hand ships of unknown origin, followed by a massive raid on the port, when smoke from fires obscures the sky?
    1. 0
      4 December 2025 14: 35
      I completely agree with you. Because this is a game that can be played by more than just two people. I'll note that without the NATO Target Control System, BACKUP attacks would be impossible. This applies to tankers or combat ships. Therefore, the response should come from whoever provides the target control system data. It's entirely possible, for example, to blow up an oil or LNG tanker heading to the UK. It's 200 miles off the coast, where the depth is about 1 km. So, determining the cause of the explosion on the same gas carrier if it sinks at such depths will be problematic. And carrying out an attack with multipurpose submarines using torpedoes... and then also saying, "We had nothing to do with it; we weren't even present in that area." The terrorist attack in Crocus Stadium? What's stopping you from blowing up a car packed with explosives after an English Premier League match, just as the fans are leaving the stadium? Terrorist actions must be responded to accordingly. I assure you, they'll understand immediately. So if such a war is unleashed, those who are really behind it must be dragged into it too.
      1. +1
        4 December 2025 14: 53
        This is interesting. But one thing ruins everything.

        negative selection
        It only seems that the mess with the police, with the migrants, with the finishing touches at Crocus will make it possible to blow up a car among innocent youth with impunity.
        That no one would recognize a torpedo explosion, and a giant tanker would go boom and immediately sink. (How long did ours, in the Black Sea, unsuitable and broken in half, stay afloat?)

        IMHO, everyone, sports nutrition sellers, will fail... (By the way, the theme of such provocations is one of their favorite themes in films. Are you mentally prepared?)
        1. -1
          4 December 2025 21: 41
          Well, the UK got away with it. Because they used proxies, the SBU. Russia could do the same. There are plenty of problems in the UK, and if you pay the right migrant a decent amount, they'll drive the car and park it where it's needed. And then it's just a matter of technique. There's also the IRA. They're experts in this business. It's their bread and butter, you could say. So our intelligence agencies need to work in the same vein as MI6, and everything will be fine.
          Regarding the tanker. Firstly, the unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) is a surface-based weapon, meaning the breach it causes is at the waterline. A torpedo attack, however, would hit the target below the waterline. This means the hold would fill with water much faster (add one atmosphere of pressure for every 10 meters of depth). At the Naval Academy, we surface-trained cadets were trained to patch breaches with so-called patches. Water was pumped under 2-3 atmospheres of pressure (equivalent to a 10-20 meter draft), and the holes in a special room were about the size of a walnut. The jet of water was enough to knock you off your feet. One cadet had to grab the patch (a mat about 50 x 50 cm), while the other held him and pushed him toward the "breach." They'd cover the hole with the mat, and then use a special sliding stop to brace the patch. It rarely worked the first time and a room of about 15 m2 filled with water in 5-6 minutes.
          Cadets floated near the ceiling, gasping for air. Their comrades, watching all this through special portholes, were having a blast. However, their turn would come next. If it were a gas carrier, it would be even worse—a fire was practically guaranteed. And by the time they report, by the time they send ships to rescue the tanker (and, remember, it's 400 km (200 miles) from the coast), by the time they'll be cruising at 25 knots for about 9-10 hours, I'm afraid it will all be over. Remember Moscow. It sank very quickly from two anti-ship missiles. But help arrived relatively quickly there. And the crew wasn't civilian, meaning they regularly undergo ship survivability training, but still. Torpedoes are even worse than anti-ship missiles, because they'll tear the side apart below the waterline.
          Our guys could easily say they ran into a Ukrainian mine that washed up in the Atlantic.
          And even if they prove that a Russian torpedo was used, well... Ukrainian BEKs don't come to our tankers on their own, but rather use NATO's targeting system, as they say - and you'll get a response.
          1. +2
            5 December 2025 08: 40
            Interestingly described. But, in my humble opinion, they forgot about the details.

            Here's Crocus. They screamed and blamed MI6, the SBU, the CIA... but when it turned out to be pure security bungling + corruption during construction by the owners + Muslim extremists, they quickly folded and went quiet.

            NATO's control center? I didn't follow it. But with 24/7 monitoring of ships, no special control center is needed... I connected to the civilian service, and everything was clear as day.

            Just yesterday I was listening to "Zhukov and Isayev: Cuba, Castro, the CIA – how the Bay of Pigs landing failed" – how a similar secret operation can be screwed up and ruined out of nowhere...
            1. -2
              5 December 2025 09: 10
              NATO's control center? I didn't follow it. But with 24/7 monitoring of ships, no special control center is needed... I connected to the civilian service, and everything was clear as day.

              - ???????? How so, may I ask? In such cases, the target designation is provided either by a satellite constellation (which the 404 simply doesn't have) or by an AWACS aircraft (which Ukraine also doesn't have). In some cases, an over-the-horizon radar may be used. Moreover, to detect the target, a specific area must be monitored, which the Ukrainian Armed Forces are also unable to do. I've participated in numerous naval firing exercises, including with cruise missiles, and I understand what that's like. So in this scenario, it's perfectly obvious who provided both the intelligence and the target designation.
              Regarding Crocus, our guys have gone silent because everyone's already talked about the role of MI6 and the SBU. Regarding the failure of our intelligence agencies, such things are very difficult to track, and yet our FSB regularly prevents terrorist attacks and catches those who agreed to participate. 100% detection of such a thing is simply impossible. But the FSB's swift arrest of the terrorists speaks volumes, not of them trying to catch butterflies. I'm sure if we followed the same approach, we would have had many more successful operations abroad.
              1. +1
                5 December 2025 09: 33
                He was talking about tankers, not the navy in Crimea. Even here, they've repeatedly published images of maps monitoring tanker positions everywhere.

                Regarding the Navy: it's not a war. Anyone can give intelligence to anyone.
                The tip—the specifics are classified. We only know the PR propaganda.

                In reality, the only way to get a handle on the situation is by reading our own media reports. They fired from Belarus—yes, they wrote about it (there were also reports of two airstrikes from Belarus, but they were erased and denied, so we won't cite them). They fired from Iranian drones—yes, they wrote about it at the beginning. They fired from Korean missiles—yes, they wrote about it. And whoever entered the coordinates... they didn't write about it.

                IMHO, it's the same in Ukraine.
                China and India supply both us and them, for example, with similar things.

                Regarding Crocus - IMHO, they fell silent for the exact opposite reason.
                1. -1
                  5 December 2025 12: 52
                  He was talking about tankers, not the navy in Crimea. Even here, they've repeatedly published images of maps monitoring tanker positions everywhere.
                  Regarding the Navy: it's not a war. Anyone can give intelligence to anyone.
                  The tip—the specifics are classified. We only know the PR propaganda.

                  Monitoring the tankers' positions doesn't allow for the provision of targeting instructions for cruise missiles and missile defense systems. Such data is extremely granular, and a tanker is a moving target, capable of reaching speeds of up to 20 knots. However, NATO itself provides targeting instructions and intelligence. Trump himself mentioned this when he threatened to deprive Ukraine of this information if it didn't negotiate. So what other proof is needed? Moreover, the range of countries capable of providing targeting instructions is extremely limited.
                  Yes, this is a strategic military zone, not a war. But providing intelligence, weapons, and command and control is direct participation in the conflict. And Russia has every right to consider both the US and the UK parties to the conflict and to apply at least reciprocal measures against the infrastructure of these countries.
                  Can Iranian drone deliveries compare with what the West provides to Ukraine? In my opinion, no. Western aid is an order of magnitude, if not two times greater.

                  Regarding Crocus - IMHO, they fell silent for the exact opposite reason.

                  Do you have any evidence on this matter or is it just your guess?
                  Here I will give the opinion of an official - the Director of the FSB -

                  Commenting on the investigation into the terrorist attack, Bortnikov noted that US and UK intelligence agencies, as well as the Main Intelligence Directorate (GUR) of Ukraine, were involved in organizing the crime.
                  1. +1
                    5 December 2025 14: 34
                    1) NATO's control center is simply more convenient. But the Houthis are quite capable of striking without NATO's control center. So it's not 100% certain, and it's classified internally. I agree that it could be true. Or it might not be true. We have our own experts.

                    2) The proverb comes to mind: "Too many cooks spoil the broth." There are a lot of them.
                    Did he say it? Yes, I guess so. He said a lot of things. I didn't follow.
                    In real life? Everything went quiet and the role of these people was somehow brushed under the rug. They don't remember.
                    1. 0
                      5 December 2025 17: 48
                      But all sorts of Houthis can strike without NATO control.

                      The Houthis use short-range cruise missiles. They once hit a container ship with a drone at 600 km. Moreover, the civilian vessel might not have been the target; the UAV could have simply been patrolling the area and launched a strike. With cruise missiles, and especially with unmanned aerial vehicles, the situation is completely different. Firstly, cruise missiles are expensive (I'm not talking about the Houthis', but our Onyx missiles or Tomahawks with harpoons), and launching them just like that isn't an option. Such a missile must find its target. And without a target designator, hitting a target at ranges of 500-600 km is impossible, especially one that's moving. The Houthis, despite possessing Iranian anti-ship missiles, haven't caused any serious problems for US warships. And the effectiveness of their missiles is extremely low.

                      However, in at least 26 separate incidents in the Red Sea since last October, Houthi strikes have failed to sink a single ship or cause significant casualties. According to the US Navy, the group also launched at least 62 anti-ship missiles and drones during these attacks, but most were either shot down or failed to hit anything. For starters, one of the biggest questions is how the Houthis are targeting their strikes at sea. As for their missiles, radar, electro-optical, and infrared homing systems will enable them to home in on targets in the terminal stages of their flight, but they still need to be guided to the desired area first.

                      "They [the Houthis] lack advanced intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance (ISR) capabilities such as maritime patrol aircraft and satellites, which typically provide targeting information for long-range anti-ship systems."

                      So, they can hit, but as we see, they can't hit. The same can't be said about Ukraine's use of anti-ship missiles. And hitting is impossible without the use of reconnaissance and targeting systems. I'll refer you back to Trump's words again—he openly spoke about providing NATO targeting and reconnaissance systems to Ukraine.
                      Regarding Bortnikov, wait a minute. This is a statement from an official who, in fact, is handling this matter in his official capacity. So he knows what he's talking about. And the fact that this issue has been resolved doesn't mean he's innocent or not involved in terrorist attacks, for example, in the UK. Is Bortnikov supposed to talk about this every week?
                      1. 0
                        5 December 2025 18: 32
                        So where are the Houthis and where are the Russians? It's clear that even they are somehow getting by, despite having nothing.
                        The World Cup is easily shot through and passed through from any direction. It hardly requires any sophisticated targeting...
                      2. 0
                        6 December 2025 13: 17
                        Of course it should. Even if the firing is conducted at a range of 200-300 km. A ship or tanker isn't stationary, after all. They can move at speeds of up to 30 knots (about 60 km/h). A Tomahawk or Ukrainian Neptune will cover 200 km in about 15 minutes. During this time, the surface ship will move 10-15 km from the aiming point. And given the cruise missile's beam pattern (which is quite narrow), there will certainly be problems with targeting with this firing method. Moreover, the cruise missile can also target a friendly tanker if it's in the area (civilian vessels typically don't have friend-or-foe equipment on board). So, we'll have the same situation we saw with the Houthis regarding accuracy. When firing at the maximum range of 600-800 km, the situation will only worsen. And anti-ship missiles are not cheap. And if we use them like that, we'll exhaust our ammunition with minimal positive effect. The Black Sea can be shot through—that's true. But only on one condition: an adequate reconnaissance and control system. Few countries in the world meet this criterion: the United States, Russia, China, and, to a lesser extent, India.
                      3. 0
                        6 December 2025 23: 06
                        It's the 21st century. Even when considering anti-ship missiles rather than boats, you can immediately come up with a ton of targeting methods. It's much the same with boats. NATO's targeting system is simply more convenient, claiming everything is ready-made on a platter, but I suspect all that's 40-year-old thinking.

                        Now it's possible: Connect to the situational awareness map (as previously described, it's been in use on land for a long time) at, say, level "D"—that's it, do whatever you want. You can't assign a supervising USS colonel to every boat/missile.

                        Just like with us. The geranium operator won't be asking the Minister of Defense every time where he should shoot...
                      4. 0
                        7 December 2025 01: 28
                        While Ukraine may have a multitude of targeting methods, it can't use any of them. It doesn't have its own satellites or UAVs capable of conducting reconnaissance over the waters, let alone providing targeting instructions. If you claim Ukraine is independently searching for the tanker at sea and targeting its BEKs, tell me, by what means? A drone would have to hover over the area for hours, monitor the area with its radar, transmit that data for analysis, and then launch a strike based on that data. Doing so with a BEK is doubly difficult. It requires precision work. The tanker itself is moving and can change course, while the BEK itself will be chasing it for several hours. Therefore, its movement must be adjusted in real time, taking into account all changes in the vessel's speed and course. And there's no room for error, otherwise you could hit someone the warhead wasn't intended for. Only an orbital satellite constellation can execute such a scheme without being detected. An American Global Hawk or an AWACS aircraft can target a tanker from a UAV. But a reconnaissance UAV hovering 50 kilometers above a tanker will immediately arouse suspicion. Just like an AWACS aircraft. And NATO will be the ones sticking out from this whole mess.
                        What situational awareness map? There's a concept called a combat information and control system, and the Americans call it Aegis. It collects data on all targets in a given area, obtained from various sources. And based on this data, targeting is performed in real time. The Russian Federation also has a combat information and control system, but not at the global level, but at the operational level. It's decisive, but it serves exactly the same purpose. The Gerani operator won't ask the Ministry of Defense for anything—he'll receive targeting information from the tactical level combat information and control system and execute it.
                      5. 0
                        7 December 2025 10: 26
                        1) You're describing all this in general terms. Specifically, the ships follow the same routes. + Their radio communications are monitored. + It's enough to recruit a few people, and they'll report encountered ships. + Or drop a few sensors. + The same BCs with acoustics and radars can be used. They will transmit their location.
                        2) I'm inclined to believe they simply connected it to NATO's situational awareness system. What were the articles about using it on land from the very beginning? At sea? Sure.
                        See the state of affairs in real time, and then decide for yourself - to attack, flee, maneuver, etc.

                        IMHO, let's wrap this up. The tension is growing, there's no war, and NATO is ready to withdraw everything, even uranium and gold, so against this backdrop, this is a minor issue.
                      6. 0
                        7 December 2025 15: 14
                        Well, let's finish. I'd just like to point out that having someone on board a tanker leaking location data is a bad idea. Firstly, he's a suicide bomber. If a fire engine crashes into his tanker, what guarantee is there that he won't die in the explosion and subsequent firefighting on board? Secondly, I don't know about tankers, but on the Navy's oil tanker, all mobile phones are handed over to the first mate, and such activity is always monitored (that's why there are special department representatives on the crew). And the penalty for such actions is up to 20 years in prison. I don't think that's a good option. Few people are so driven and determined to ruin their lives for free.
                        As for recruiting on other vessels, I repeat—that's not an option. First, you need to accurately report the deadweight position of the encountered vessel and know your own. Only the officer on watch has that information. Second, to engage the BEKs, you need continuous, real-time information, and only a satellite constellation or AWACS can provide that. Such reports from oncoming vessels will be outdated within an hour or an hour and a half—the tanker will be 40-50 km away. So where should the BEK go next?
                        If you're inclined to believe that NATO was involved in the tanker explosions, our Supreme Commander has no doubt about it after Trump's words about NATO cutting off Ukraine's control and intelligence systems if anything happens. He's personally spoken about NATO's involvement in the conflict more than once.
                        So the Russian Federation has every right to respond adequately, at least symmetrically, to all parties to the conflict.
                      7. 0
                        7 December 2025 23: 47
                        1) Tankers were damaged even without Backups, which speaks to the presence of agents and the possibility of a variety of actions.
                        2) The intelligence system—yes, they actually admitted to being connected. And then we're left to guess at the options. From "just grab a stick and do whatever you want" to "Endog... Trump personally ordered the crash into those tankers."
                        In any case, these are bargaining chips, like the one shot down on Endogan’s orders (and here he personally recognized our pilot in an interview (supposedly, he met the translation).
    2. +1
      4 December 2025 20: 28
      Quote: Sergey Latyshev
      Now they will also attack ships at sea.
      By the way, as the Jews have been doing for a long time,

      That's right. During wars, like all countries, they attacked military ships. And in peacetime, when weapons are transported to countries that will later attack them, the Jews seize the ship at sea, bring it to port, unload it, and show it to the world. It's true, this doesn't help.
      1. +1
        4 December 2025 20: 56
        extension
  9. +3
    3 December 2025 21: 45
    Delayed decisions at the top do not solve the problem, and a delayed decision costs more effort and expenses.
  10. -2
    3 December 2025 21: 58
    This is exactly how the British decided to use Zelensky's supporters.
    Apparently the whole calculation is that kaka not drowning. laughing
  11. 0
    3 December 2025 22: 28
    The public has spoken out. If you want to liberate Odessa, go to the front, don't protest.
  12. -1
    3 December 2025 22: 32
    The coalition of the willing is preparing for war, for a big war, and it's better to start while they're not ready.
    1. +2
      3 December 2025 23: 03
      The roles in the upcoming war haven't yet been fully determined. Everyone wants to collect reparations and be great. laughing
  13. +2
    3 December 2025 23: 28
    The war will not end with the signing of an armistice.
  14. -1
    4 December 2025 00: 28
    I completely disagree with the title of the article. A move to the Baltic Sea is possible, but the Black Sea will become 100% calmer if we reach Transnistria.
  15. -1
    4 December 2025 01: 45
    First, we need to cut off the outskirts from the sea, and only then start dreaming up and fearing what the Western fascists will do in response. A government in exile, BEKs from the Atlantic and the Danube—all this is just wishful thinking, scary stories for the Germans that may never come true.
    As soon as they see a real and strong Russia, taking Nikolaev and Odessa, and reaching Transnistria, they'll immediately retreat. And no one respects, likes, or fears the weaklings and sniveling bastards who carry out their masters' orders.
  16. -2
    4 December 2025 04: 11
    What I'm talking about is this: I rubbed my hands raw while writing that Europe must be destroyed.
  17. +2
    4 December 2025 08: 56
    What is happening is a direct result of Russia's asymmetrical responses to sanctions and direct threats.
    They wanted to slip through the cracks, but ended up wet from head to toe.
  18. +1
    4 December 2025 16: 06
    They're slowly preparing the Russian public for a deal with the US. As Prigozhin said...you'll just...))) We don't need Odessa or Kharkiv because of this deal.
  19. +1
    4 December 2025 16: 27
    Quote: Botrops
    ...It's entirely possible, for example, to blow up an oil or LNG tanker bound for the UK. About 200 miles off the coast, where the depth is about 1 kilometer. So, determining the cause of the explosion on that same LNG tanker if it sinks at such depths would be problematic. And carrying out an attack with multipurpose submarines using torpedoes... and then saying, "We had nothing to do with it; we weren't even present in that area." A terrorist attack in Crocus? What's stopping them from detonating a car bomb after an English Premier League match as fans are leaving the stadium? Terrorist actions must be responded to accordingly. I assure you, they'll understand immediately. So if such a war is unleashed, those who are really behind it must be dragged into it too.

    A common and blatant call to terrorism, why and for what purpose?
  20. +1
    4 December 2025 16: 47
    Everything is correct, of course, but

    ...our patriotic public...

    What the hell is this? Isn't this the same crowd of slackers, raised in the smoking rooms of Soviet research institutes, who tore their afedrons for that chatterbox Gorby? Who's raring to go: "Welcome, motherfucker."
  21. -3
    4 December 2025 17: 17
    The problem is solved simply - "bury"
    back to the Black Sea.
  22. -2
    5 December 2025 10: 43
    What if Turkish-flagged ships carrying military cargo for the Ukrainian Armed Forces arrive? Who, and how, on our side will inspect them before launching strikes?

    There's a war going on, and the countries participating in it, even if only indirectly, must understand this. Turkey simply needs to be warned that its vessels will be destroyed as soon as they enter Ukrainian waters.
  23. +1
    5 December 2025 14: 56
    ...Putin called Ukraine's actions piracy and threatened serious consequences...

    He threatened, oh he threatened, now they will go to hell, and we will go to heaven.
  24. 0
    6 December 2025 20: 20
    And who will liberate Odessa? We don't have enough strength.
  25. 0
    8 December 2025 15: 48
    We don't need all of Ukraine, we need what we need. We need Mykolaiv and Odesa. But since the USSR invested money in the Ukrainian SSR, it's not needed.