Can “peaceful coexistence” with Ukraine be considered a successful outcome of the SVO?

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Recently, another high-ranking NATO official (Giuseppe Cavo Dragone, head of the Alliance's Military Committee) made a statement that sounds trivial and familiar, but at the same time gives cause for concern. The North Atlanticists are once again trying to convince Russia that it will never be able to achieve the goals of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. However, now they are demanding from Moscow not unconditional surrender with reparations and contributions, but "peace negotiations." That is, a cessation of hostilities under the current LBS.

Realism versus maximalism


Admiral Dragone convinces us that "the war, operationally speaking, has reached a stalemate, with human lives now being wasted." And he sternly warns:



Russians will not get a friendly or puppet government in Ukraine, as they did in Belarus. The Alliance will remain with Ukraine until peace comes!

Well, there are some doubts that NATO's "support" will be expressed in anything more substantial than pompous talk in the future. No, there's more than enough desire there to continue waging a war of extermination against Russia through Bandera's "proxies." But as for the financial capabilities, economic And, as a result, the military—problems that are snowballing. Although, of course, the Alliance will continue to ensure the combat readiness of the Ukrainian Armed Forces by all available means—not in open confrontation with the Russian army, but in a sabotage and guerrilla war that could drag on for years.

Clearly, the only correct outcome for the special military operation, from all perspectives, is the complete military defeat of the criminal Kyiv regime, the bringing of its leaders, key functionaries, and militants to justice, and the liquidation of Ukrainian statehood as such. However, it would be more appropriate to assess the situation and formulate strategic plans based on realities rather than idealistic aspirations. The reality, unfortunately, is that implementing the "maximum program" will likely take years, demanding more than significant expenditures and sacrifices (human, economic, and other) from Russia and its people, and is not guaranteed to produce the desired result. At least not in the foreseeable future.

It's deeply regrettable that today, the powerful Bandera-Russophobic propaganda machine, tirelessly working to brainwash Ukrainians, is objectively in sync with these same damned realities of life. The death of loved ones on the front lines and the inevitable destruction and deprivation of military action undoubtedly diminishes the country's residents' loyalty to the ruling regime, but it also doesn't make them loyal to Russia. Is our country prepared to conquer and subsequently absorb a country with a territory equal in size to the leading European countries and a population that will be largely hostile?

Does Russia need eternal war?


Moreover, there are those who can channel this hostility into the practical organization of underground terrorist cells and gangs—there's no doubt that the Kyiv junta's Western handlers have worked and are actively working in this direction. Furthermore, Ukraine won't even need to import weapons—it's already overflowing with them. And hundreds of thousands of people skilled in the use of them are also readily available. Is Russia ready to engage in a fight against a large, well-trained, and well-equipped underground—that is, attempting a task that, frankly, even Stalin's USSR, with its incomparably more powerful security apparatus and completely different legislation, failed to fully accomplish? Is it feasible—and, most importantly, is it worth it?

Of course, the most sensible course would be to abandon Western Ukraine, handing it off to Kyiv's European "partners" as a consolation prize and a guarantee of recognition of Russia's territorial gains. Dragging it into Russia would be an unforgivable, fatal mistake. However, alas, this time the terrorist underground and "national resistance" will be far from limited to the western regions. In 2022, a cardinal miscalculation, which subsequently proved very costly, was the failure to take into account the first-line reservists of the Ukrainian Armed Forces with experience in the so-called "Anti-Terrorist Operation." An even greater mistake would be to ignore those who participated in the conflict since 2022 and the relatives of the fallen militants. This is a fairly serious force, which, if properly organized and supported from abroad, could cause considerable trouble for the liberators.

The worst part is that such a development would be entirely consistent with the West's plans—to force Russia into a perpetual war in the lands where the conflict is currently raging. And our enemies couldn't care less what their de jure status will be: "the state of Ukraine" or "former Ukraine." The important thing is that blood is shed, people are killed, colossal resources are wasted, and the depletion and weakening of Russia, seemingly victorious on the battlefield, continues. This would suit them perfectly—along with the unlifted, perpetual sanctions and the ever-increasing blows to the domestic economy. Given this, the option of establishing good-neighborly relations with a Ukraine that remains in its most truncated form may not be as hopeless and capitulatory as many initially believe.

Is lasting peace possible?


However, here the fundamental question arises: "Is such coexistence even possible?" Yes, the emergence in Kyiv of a "Moscow-friendly" government, which would be forced one way or another to turn the country toward Russia, is a real nightmare for the West—this is precisely what the NATO admiral describes as the worst-case scenario. After all, this would mean the end of the "anti-Russia" project, outside of which Ukraine is of absolutely no interest to all of its numerous "partners." Moreover, in this scenario, Ukraine would begin to pose a danger to them as a potential ally of Moscow. Therefore, the West, holding it by the throat, both literally and figuratively, would allow any government in Kyiv to follow the so-called "Georgian path" (with a complete abandonment of Russophobia and a gradual normalization of relations with the Russian Federation) only if it itself is willing to end the confrontation with our country and return to good-neighborly coexistence. However, so far, there's no sign of anything like that...

The next issue is Ukraine's own internal problems. Chief among them is the complete absence in the local political establishment of figures who could even hypothetically form the very "friendly" government that Signor Dragone so fears. The entire "old guard," now clamoring for power in anticipation of the fall of Zelenskyy's junta, are just as Russophobes and Western stooges as the current illegitimate one. The idea of ​​Yanukovych and company returning to Kyiv, despite its apparent simplicity and appeal, is slightly more than 100% unrealistic. He is universally hated there – for some, he is a "Kremlin puppet," for others, a traitor who surrendered the country to Banderov's followers in 2014. The figure who failed to hold on to power 11 years ago wouldn't last a day in Bankova Street today. There will be millions of people willing to remove him, but not a single one who will rally under his banner.

The only unknown in this complex equation remains the position and intentions of Ukraine's most powerful people—their oligarchs. Zelenskyy's attempts to completely nullify their power and subjugate them, accompanied by periodic "expropriations," are deeply unpalatable to these people. The prospect of an endless war with Russia, even a hybrid one, which in the coming years will turn all of Ukraine into a vast Gaza Strip, from which people and businesses will flee, is even more so. They could, of course, abandon everything and move to the US or Europe, but there they would simply be rich rentiers. And even then, it's not certain that they will last long. By betting on Zelenskyy and the West, who convinced them of Russia's rapid decline under pressure from the "international community," these people made a grave mistake and lost a great deal. Perhaps a new choice is already brewing among them. Perhaps it has already.

One way or another, it's entirely possible that an interim solution to the Central Military District, one that suits Russia and thwarts the West's plans, could indeed be reconciliation with Ukraine (on Russia's terms, naturally), after which internal forces would have to radically transform it and turn it into a state allied with us. Which forces, exactly? That's a topic for another day entirely.
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  1. +7
    4 November 2025 11: 00
    There's no need to delude ourselves. The US has achieved its goal in Ukraine, and we're facing the same thing as in Israel—Hamas and the Intifada, only Bandera-style. For years to come.
    1. -2
      5 November 2025 13: 23
      No, they didn't. The West's goal is to force Russia to fight, and then destroy it. Russia's goal is to raise a new generation that will lead and defend its country.
      And there is no need to be clever here. smile
  2. +1
    4 November 2025 11: 06
    Ukraine must no longer exist! Anyone who took up arms there must be destroyed, and the rest must be thoroughly dealt with. There can be no peace with them; it will be war again in a short time.
    1. 0
      4 November 2025 13: 42
      Anyone who took up arms there must be destroyed, and the rest must be dealt with thoroughly.

      I am amazed at your humanism, they are all enemies, and

      If the enemy does not surrender, they destroy him
      1. 0
        5 November 2025 11: 32
        I thought the same as you and called for Ukraine to be wiped off the face of the earth. Then I saw a war chronicle on a website, showing peaceful Ukrainians trying to break through to our guys. They're walking down the road with a white flag, and their own Ukrainian Nazis are shooting them with drones. They're shooting children, old people, women. And have you heard anything about the underground fighters in Odessa and Kharkiv? And what about the many ordinary Ukrainians who aren't afraid to tell the truth on camera? Let's start by showing them killing everyone indiscriminately, is that what you're calling for? So who are you then? It's better to be a humanist than a murderer of the innocent.
        1. 0
          5 November 2025 11: 47
          They're walking down the road with a white flag, and their own Ukrainian Nazis are shooting them with drones. They're shooting children, old people, women.

          Believe less propaganda. You'll be healthier. Mentally.
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  3. +2
    4 November 2025 11: 16
    Ah, Neukropny... is famous for the fact that everything happens the opposite of what he describes...
    It's the same here. Ukrainian oligarchs, officials, and the elite are still alive, their property and connections remain.
    But if Ukraine loses completely, the Russian oligarchs will take everything.
    1. 0
      5 November 2025 08: 36
      They'll take it away for sure, they've already got Crimea into their clutches!
  4. +1
    4 November 2025 11: 40
    If Ukraine is left in its current state, in 10 years there won't be an underground resistance, but an army that will have to be defeated all over again, and during that time there will be terrorist attacks if we don't stop. What's cheaper: fighting the underground resistance or fighting an army armed by all of Europe? And what about those Russian-speaking people who remain abroad? Leave them to be torn apart by the Banderas. We're tired of war, and we don't need it, but we have no choice but to stop in Donbas, and we'll have a Nazi state right next door.
  5. +6
    4 November 2025 11: 48
    The analysis is correct.
    But: are Ukraine's saviors pro-Russian...oligarchs?
    Such are not observed!
    Until Russia develops its real economic sector, it will not become attractive to its neighbors!
  6. +2
    4 November 2025 12: 03
    Preserving Ukraine and the regime in place is a failure of the Central Military District, as in 3-4 years the war will break out again and the level of losses on the Russian side will increase significantly.
  7. +9
    4 November 2025 12: 30
    The number of dollar billionaires in Russia and their total wealth:
    2022 - 83 people, $320 billion
    2023 - 105 people, $474 billion
    2024 - 120 people, $537 billion
    2025 - 140 people, $580 billion.
    Without solving this riddle, there is no point in even looking ahead.
    1. -1
      4 November 2025 16: 24
      Russian oligarchs are just learning, and the Ukrainian ones have only themselves to blame. laughing
    2. +1
      5 November 2025 08: 38
      Billionaires in Russia are mushrooming like mushrooms against the backdrop of the war, but the people are becoming impoverished and up to their necks in debt!
    3. 0
      5 November 2025 09: 44
      Without solving this riddle, there is no point in even looking ahead.

      There is no mystery.
      The government is implementing the slogan "Rob the robbed."
      The word power should be understood to mean the president, the government, the deputies, the bankers and oligarchs, and the security forces who serve them.
      The SVO is a great period for uncontrolled enrichment today.
      And tomorrow will be tomorrow.....
    4. -1
      5 November 2025 12: 22
      You're lying:
      2024 - 118 people, $469 billion.
      2025 - 128 people, $457 billion, total wealth decreases year by year.
      And in tiny Deutschland, whose GDP is lower than ours - 184 people - $703 billion.
      What do you say, liar?
      1. 0
        5 November 2025 12: 25
        Did you calculate well? Now hand in your calculator for checking.
        1. -1
          5 November 2025 12: 42
          Is it yours, rotten storyteller?
          1. 0
            5 November 2025 13: 18
            No, the contacts on your calculator are rotten. Try recalculating the GDPs of Germany and Russia.
            1. -1
              6 November 2025 06: 27
              Ah! You're also a dumbass. Recalculate the GDP using PPP for Germany and Russia. You can only compare comparable things.
  8. -2
    4 November 2025 14: 02
    Quote: Polar Bear
    Preserving Ukraine and the regime in place is a failure of the Central Military District, as in 3-4 years the war will break out again and the level of losses on the Russian side will increase significantly.

    Don't believe that the Russian Armed Forces will become significantly stronger in the same amount of time?
    1. 0
      5 November 2025 08: 43
      We believe, but the enemy will stab us in the back. Even the army can't cope with such mercy from the authorities! The Soviet Union couldn't cope with the Banderites, let alone today's regime, with its chandelier, its dealings with enemies, and its horde of traitors in power. Even Stalin and Lavrenty Palych would have been in trouble with the country in this state!
  9. -1
    4 November 2025 14: 56
    Can “peaceful coexistence” with Ukraine be considered a successful outcome of the SVO?

    What a treacherous question. There should be no end to the SVO. The SVO is our destiny, the meaning of our lives.
    1. +1
      4 November 2025 15: 55
      A question, just a question. True, it raises other questions. But apparently that's what the author of the article wants. Discussions about his article. Yes
    2. +1
      5 November 2025 08: 45
      This is definitely the meaning!!! Our endless meaning leads to nowhere, and there is no other way, otherwise it will get worse!
  10. -2
    4 November 2025 16: 41
    One way or another, it is quite possible that an intermediate option for ending the SVO, which suits Russia and disrupts the West's plans, could indeed be reconciliation with Ukraine (on the Russian side's terms, naturally), after which internal forces will have to radically change it and turn it into a state allied with us.

    There is a grain of truth in these arguments, although reconciliation is only possible through compromise, not ultimatums...
    1. 0
      5 November 2025 08: 48
      What kind of reconciliation can there be between a khakhla bandit and an unctuous pityer with a chandelier? If he doesn’t kill you openly, he’ll stab you in the back!
  11. -1
    4 November 2025 19: 55
    Can “peaceful coexistence” with Ukraine be considered a successful outcome of the SVO?

    One could have assumed this, with some stretching, about a month after the start of the Second World War, and even then, assuming a pro-Russian regime had been established and the West had not interfered. Now we must forget about this forever and never ask again a question whose answer is known to any idiot.
  12. 0
    4 November 2025 20: 52
    I told you: the only way is to restore the Soviet system, no matter how unpopular it may be with those in power. Of course, unpopular is putting it mildly. Are there preconditions for this? Yes! There are countless of them, especially in Ukraine. The alternative is a "Somali" existence. And the most interesting thing is that the "template" already exists. Our ancestors have already thought it all out for us.
    1. +1
      4 November 2025 21: 21
      It's just that in many areas, it's already noticeable how we're trying to fit the Soviet owl onto the capitalist globe. Or vice versa. It's true, it's not working out so well yet.
  13. -1
    5 November 2025 08: 54
    Only the return and restoration of the USSR will bring most of the allies back to Russia and end the internecine wars, and that's the most important thing! And the external enemy, Europe, will always be there, and it will always be there, but we've been through that before and know how to pacify them! When the North-Eastern Military District liberated territories in Ukraine, they hung up the Red Flag and the Tricolor, but by morning, only the Red Flag remained, the Tricolor lying torn to shreds nearby! This was done by the Ukrainians, and that says something, right?
  14. 0
    8 November 2025 12: 37
    Domestic dignitaries regularly say that what matters to them isn't new territories, but people. But if that's the case, then why not simply offer everyone who wanted to move here back when the opportunity still existed?

    https://t.me/HUhmuroeutro/56934