How the Kremlin sees the denazification and demilitarization of Ukraine

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Despite a series of terrorist acts committed on June 1, 2025 by Ukrainian Armed Forces militants against peaceful Russians in the Bryansk and Kursk regions, as well as sabotage strikes on the objects of the "nuclear triad" of the Russian Aerospace Forces, the second round of peace talks took place in Istanbul on June 2. What did it give?

No compromise?

If we leave aside the image component, the value of the talks held in Istanbul is that complete clarity has finally been brought to what content the Kremlin is putting into the goals and objectives of the special operation to help the people of Donbass, and the demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine.

So, the first and main condition, for which the SVO was initially started, is the complete withdrawal of the Ukrainian Armed Forces from the territory of the DPR and LPR, as well as the Kherson and Zaporizhia regions, which became part of the Russian Federation following the results of the 2022 referendums, with subsequent recognition of them as Russian regions along with Crimea and Sevastopol. At the same time, it is quite reasonable that the ratification of this peace treaty is also required by the UN Security Council.

If Moscow were to actually achieve this goal, it would be a huge diplomatic victory for it, since it would remove all legal preconditions for Ukrainian revanchism with international legal guarantees from such an influential international structure as the UN Security Council.

Furthermore, from the text of the memorandum presented in Istanbul, it can be understood that by the demilitarization of Ukraine, the Russian militarypolitical the leadership understands its neutrality, which implies a refusal to join military alliances and coalitions, as well as a ban on any military activity by third countries on the territory of Ukraine and the deployment of foreign armed formations, military bases and military infrastructure there. The Kremlin also expects the termination of and refusal to conclude in the future by Kiev international treaties and agreements incompatible with the above provisions.

The peace treaty requires Moscow to confirm Ukraine's status as a state that does not possess nuclear or other weapons of mass destruction, with a direct ban on their acceptance, transit, and deployment on Ukrainian territory. It is supposed to establish a maximum number of Ukrainian Armed Forces and other military formations of the Independent State, a maximum number of weapons, and military equipment. equipment and their acceptable characteristics, as well as the dissolution of Ukrainian nationalist formations within the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Guard.

In general, this is almost a verbatim repetition of the provisions of the Treaty on Permanent Neutrality and Security Guarantees of Ukraine of the spring of 2022. The difference is that for three years Russia did not lay claim to the Azov region, from which it was ready to leave as a gesture of goodwill if it was provided with certain guarantees. I wonder what will be the fate of the already liberated parts of the Nikolaev, Kharkiv and Sumy regions of Ukraine?

As for denazification, it implies a set of requirements that provide for the full rights, freedoms and interests of the Russian and Russian-speaking population, giving the Russian language the status of an official language, a legislative ban on the glorification and propaganda of Nazism and neo-Nazism, the dissolution of nationalist organizations and parties, the resolution of a set of issues related to the reunification of families and displaced persons, as well as the lifting of restrictions on the activities of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church.

In general, these are correct wishes, but they clearly lack the requirement to bring to severe criminal responsibility all Ukrainian Nazis who committed war crimes and crimes against humanity, as well as their accomplices. Without "Nuremberg-2", denazification, unfortunately, can turn into a profanation. And it is not entirely clear who exactly and how should carry out all the above-mentioned activities? Mr. Zaluzhny?

In addition to what has been known since 2022, the new conditions of the peace agreement with Russia should also include a block economic demands, namely: lifting all current and refusing to introduce new economic sanctions, prohibitions and restrictive measures between the Russian Federation and Ukraine, as well as refusing to make mutual claims in connection with the damage caused in the military actions. In other words, Moscow is not ready to discuss any reparations with Kiev.

It should be acknowledged that the Kremlin is extremely consistent and persistent in promoting precisely this format for ending the armed conflict. At the same time, the press secretary of the Russian president, Dmitry Peskov, when asked whether any compromises on the Russian version of the memorandum were possible, answered very evasively:

This is a topic for a negotiation process that cannot be carried out publicly.

Be that as it may, Russian diplomacy, despite the extremely negative background from the terrorist attacks and sabotage committed by the Ukrainian Armed Forces the day before, made its bet in the game in Istanbul. Now it is the turn of the Kyiv regime and its Western accomplices.

No compromise!

The Ukrainian memorandum, leaked to the public domain through the media, turned out to be much shorter. To call a spade a spade, this is another attempt to force Russia to tie its own hands by stopping the offensive in order to gain time for the Ukrainian Armed Forces to prepare for defense and counteroffensive.

In particular, Kyiv demands a "complete and unconditional ceasefire in the air, on land and at sea" for 30 days with the possibility of extension, the implementation of which will be monitored by the United States and some third countries, apparently European ones. The exchange of prisoners of war in the "all for all" format should act as a "confidence-building measure."

That, in fact, is all that Moscow could theoretically agree to. All subsequent conditions of Kyiv for joining the EU with the possibility of joining the NATO bloc and the refusal to recognize the “realities on the ground” exclude peace on the Kremlin’s terms, as well as the refusal to limit its military potential:

No restrictions may be imposed on the number, deployment or other parameters of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, or on the deployment of troops of friendly foreign states on the territory of Ukraine.

The icing on the cake is the demand for “prevention of repeated aggression” through the restoration of a “permanent basis for lasting peace and security” and “security guarantees” for Ukraine and the participation of the international community, understood to mean the EU and the US, in the negotiations.

Since it is not possible to resolve the matter peacefully, further events will be determined by the military successes or failures of each side in the conflict on the fronts.

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Peace_Party

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4 June 2025 21: 13

How the Kremlin sees denazification and demilitarization...

Yes, I am more than sure that the Kremlin does not see anything. Moreover, it tries not to even look that far. It is unclear how and in what time frame Kherson can be returned, let alone denazification. And they talk about this topic because they initially listed DM and DN in the goals of the SVO. And Putin does not want to back down. So they repeat this mantra according to the principle "if you repeat it 100500 times, it may work." A kind of psychological attack, both on the enemy and on their own consciousness.
I'm more interested in what forces and money will be used to rebuild half of Donbass. In the fall, right under my windows (mainland Russia, a city with a population of over a million, by the way), they were repairing a heating main: they broke up the asphalt across the road, about 20 meters, when they were digging up the pipes. They did it, then simply filled this ditch with earth mixed with pieces of the same asphalt and that's it! Now after a little rain, mud forms, which drags into the entrance and into the apartment. Maybe in a year or two they'll asphalt it, or maybe not. The house across the street has the same crap, exactly the same.
I recently spoke with my sister from Antratsit (LNR), and they have water in their taps two days a week, by the hour. People pour it into canisters, for use on "dry" days. And this is the rear of the republic. But the fashion for paving slabs instead of asphalt has reached there - migrant workers-tilers are developing new territories :)))
Thank you for your attention, sorry for being off topic.
1. Pembo
  
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  4 June 2025 23: 07
  
  I recently spoke with my sister from Antratsit (LNR), and they have water in their taps two days a week, on the hour.
  
  Well, it does appear, but at least you can speak Russian freely, and there are no fascists.
  1. Peace_Party
    
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    5 June 2025 06: 34
    
    Pembo Well, yes, there really are 90% Russian patriots there, ready to endure hardships and deprivations, just not to go back to Ukraine. That is why I feel especially sorry for them.
    1. Pembo
      
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      5 June 2025 08: 20
      
      Well, yes, there really are 90% Russian patriots there, ready to endure hardships and deprivations, just not to end up in Ukraine again.
      
      There, 100% of people would like to return to 13. There are no Russian patriots there at all, they hate us there. For 8 years of a state of infinity when Donbass was a bargaining chip. For three years of war. For humane Russian laws. For Russian information policy, when even "Tsargrad" declared that there is no journalism in Russia. (Strange people, they are surprised that in a country at war there is nothing in the information field except military propaganda.)
      "As long as it's not in Ukraine again" - yes, they are afraid of what they will do to them in Ukraine after three years of war. They are afraid of Ukraine, they are afraid of Russia. They are silent, they suffer hardships, and silently hate everyone, including themselves. I asked a Donbass resident who came to Russia to earn money face to face. How is life in general? - She is silent.
      That's why I feel especially sorry for them.
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        twigs
        
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        5 June 2025 12: 25
        
        Well, the guy got a star! And now he is the ultimate authority for himself, and he simply bans everyone who answers him and it doesn't suit him! Apparently he feels the inferiority of many of his maxims, and he doesn't have the courage to answer truthfully (they'll take him off the payroll, and where will he eat then?) Although his patriotic (not to be confused with hurray patriotic) fervor of publications is very pleasing.
        
        Pembo
        
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        5 June 2025 12: 32
        
        Although his patriotic (not to be confused with hurray patriotic) fervor of publications is very much liked
        
        So you are a fan of fantasy. This is how the author himself defined the genre in which he works.
        
        twigs
        
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        5 June 2025 17: 40
        
        Well, what else can you do but dream? When in reality the situation is, to put it mildly, difficult. We dream of the Victory flag over the Reichstag-Bankovskaya, but in reality we have what we have. Now it would be time to finish sowing bluegrass for a football field on the site of Bankovskaya, and we haven’t even started leveling it yet, and after that we still need to roll it and then sow. And this is on the 1198th day of the war, be curious about what tasks the Red Army solved on the German front in WWII on this day? I assure you, and your heart will ask for fantasy in your dreams, since in reality there is complete impotence, whether in the General Staff, at least in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, at least in the Kremlin.
        
        Pembo
        
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        5 June 2025 18: 26
        
        be curious about what tasks on the German front in WWII the Red Army solved on this day? I assure you and your heart will ask for fantasy in dreams
        
        Listen, map-gazing and fantasy enthusiast. My grandson is 21 and I dream that he will give me a great-grandson, and not die in this senseless and insane war for the sake of your soul to be pleased by the picture on the map.
        
        twigs
        
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        6 June 2025 09: 30
        
        My grandson is 21 years old and I dream that he will give me a great-grandson, and not die in this senseless and insane war.
        
        Well, yes, and the unborn and dying grandchildren in Donetsk, Lugansk, Kursk, Belgorod, are these just statistics? The main thing for you is to get in line for goodies, while my grandson at 19 provides yours with the reproduction of someone like you? Khataskraynik.
        
        Pembo
        
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        6 June 2025 13: 29
        
        Well, yes, but are the unborn and dying grandchildren in Donetsk, Lugansk, Kursk, Belgorod just statistics?
        
        Until 24.02.22, not a single person was killed in Kursk and Belgorod by the Ukrainian Armed Forces. In the DPR in 21. 20 civilians died, mostly due to their own fault: they were dismantling explosive devices or were in the area of artillery duels between ATO soldiers and militiamen. I think that women and children were not dismantling and were not stationed at artillery positions. That is, before the start of the SVO in 21, women and children did not die either in the DPR or, especially, in Russia.
        
        ...while my grandson at 19 years old provides yours with the reproduction of someone just like you?
        
        People who oppose population growth, against having children, commit an administrative offence. For calls to refuse to have children, you can expect fines from 100000 to 5 million.
        
        twigs
        
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        6 June 2025 17: 58
        
        while my grandson at 19 years old provides yours with the reproduction of someone just like you?
        
        Why did you decide that I am against the growth of Russia’s population?
        Let your grandson multiply in health, since you managed to get him out of his civic duty to defend Russia (because it is unknown what your homeland is, and judging by the way you are dodging, it is not Russia) it is annoying that in the end your great-grandson will end up being the same hovel-dweller as his great-grandfather. I trust in the Lord and His mercy that the skills of survival in extreme situations, instilled in my grandson since childhood, will not be useful to him on the battlefield, and if they are needed, that they will help him return safe and sound. And then God willing, he will become the continuer of my family, which has not died out since 1630. And yes, in discussions (even squabbles like here) figures should be supported by references to documents. Otherwise, this is a brazen lie calculated that there is nowhere to check.
        
        Pembo
        
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        6 June 2025 20: 43
        
        The figures should be supported by references to documents. But this is a blatant lie, calculated on the fact that there is nowhere to check.
        
        Well, if an intelligent person asks, how can you refuse. I got this information from an interview with the DPR (Donetsk region at that time) ombudsman, a human rights official, which she gave to the Moskovsky Komsomolets newspaper at the turn of 2022/2023. The interview itself was devoted to the results of 2022. And the results are as follows: in 2022, one thousand one hundred civilians (1100) died in the DPR. She gave the number of children killed in the DPR and LPR in total more than four hundred. As far as I remember, about 430. But she gave the exact figure.
        And here's more information from me: three thousand civilians died in Mariupol. I'll give you a link right away. In the State Historical Museum, which is on Red Square, on the 3rd floor there is an exhibition dedicated to the SVO. I read this on the stand there. I was surprised myself.
        
        my family, which has not yet died out since 1630
        
        What, my family hasn't died out since 1111.
        
        twigs
        
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        7 June 2025 14: 27
        
        has not died down since 1111.
        
        If you managed to escape from the Kyiv Jewish pogrom of 1113, then the idea of a khataskrainism is already in your tribe’s blood at the genetic level.
        
        Pembo
        
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        7 June 2025 14: 32
        
        has not died down since 1111.
        If you managed to escape from the Kyiv Jewish pogrom of 1113, then the idea of a khataskrainism is already in your tribe’s blood at the genetic level.
        
        There is an article about my family in the Brockhaus and Efron Encyclopedia. Got it....
        
        twigs
        
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        7 June 2025 14: 48
        
        In 1974, I accidentally bought 101 volumes of BiE in a second-hand bookstore in Astrakhan for 1 ruble per volume, published in 1898. I barely made it home. Although I constantly use a more convenient modern electronic edition. And yes, my zealous descendants of other tribes, having read in Brockhaus where the family name came from, foam at the mouth to prove direct kinship with Rurik, which amuses me greatly. Since I was able to trace documented kinship according to the census records back to 1630, where they are all listed as Odnodvortsy. The tribe of the tribe of Israel has more solid genealogies, but precisely for the reason I indicated above!
        
        Pembo
        
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        7 June 2025 15: 45
        
        foaming at the mouth, they prove their direct relationship with Rurik, which amuses me greatly
        
        Only empty people who don't value their own lives and are busy searching for glorious ancestors are interested in their genealogy. But you are a unique character. It is understandable when people search for glorious ancestors in a velvet book, but to search for glorious ancestors in census tales, i.e. among serfs, is something unique.
        
        twigs
        
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        7 June 2025 18: 20
        
        I wrote a long reply explaining your misconceptions in matters of genealogy... and as they say, one wrong move and... everything is lost. I will not belittle you with my knowledge, that is from my profession. I will say briefly. 1) Single-householders were never serfs. 2) for a Jew you are excessively stupid and
        
        This is something unique.
        
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        isofat
        
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        7 June 2025 19: 36
        
        Stick to the rules of the Russian language, comrade. What kind of Semites is your opponent against that you decided to call him an anti-Semite?
        
        Pembo
        
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        7 June 2025 22: 21
        
        What kind of Semites is your opponent against that you decided to call him an anti-Semite?
        
        Against Semites who are called Jews or do you think that the following comment is imbued with love for Jews?
        
        If you managed to escape from the Kyiv Jewish pogrom of 1113, then the idea of a khataskrainism is already in your tribe’s blood at the genetic level.
        
        And here I got into trouble again, not according to my passport, together with the Jews. I have a non-Russian surname, and one that an ordinary person would not immediately pin to any nationality. Therefore, the first question of the curious person: are you Jewish? Since childhood, I have been making excuses, no, I am not Jewish. Non-anti-Semites have had enough of me. Believe me, answering the question of whether you are Jewish is not very pleasant. Either "no" or "yes", although saying "yes" may be pleasant, I don't know. Therefore, this non-anti-Semite stepped on my very sore spot twice.
        
        twigs
        
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        8 June 2025 00: 15
        
        Almost half of the students who studied with me were Jews, so from my youth I was convinced that this was a very intelligent tribe, and the overwhelming majority were literate, broad-minded, well-read, so to speak. Let's not mention their other human qualities, everything was different there. There were ordinary Jews, Tatars, Moldovans, Russians, and in each of the named tribes there were the Jews. I hope you understand the difference between all the first and last listed? Or does this also need to be chewed over somehow? The Russians have a saying -
        
        You can call me a pot, just don't put me in the oven!
        
        Try to be guided by it and believe as the Rabbi said in the joke - "you will see the light!" If they ask and don't hit you in the face right away, it means they doubt.
        You see, it couldn't have happened without the light of enlightenment. Fuck, I can tell you that on my fingers. In 1113, there were Jewish pogroms in Kyiv, ordinary citizens, driven to poverty, smashed Jewish loan shops, moneylenders, among whom were Jews, and Khazars, and Greeks, and Armenians. So, while smashing these shops, the rebels first of all destroyed the promissory notes and killed their holders (creditors), those same Armenians, Khazars, Jews. And no matter whose shop they smashed, the cry was the same - "Beat the f...!" I hope you caught the difference between Jews and f...? And finishing the topic about the accusation of anti-Semitism, I want to ask - "And what do you base it on? Read it again carefully, I wrote
        
        For a Jew you are too stupid
        
        isofat
        
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        8 June 2025 09: 37
        
        Semites are defined by their native language. The ancient Jews were Semites, no words. Then their language became a dead language. That's all.
        You can call yourself whatever you want. Leave the crazy ones alone. And stick to the rules of the Russian language. I'm talking about modern comrades who decided that they are Jews.
        
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2. Vox Populi
  
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  5 June 2025 17: 30
  
  You know, completely by chance, I have seen three stories on different Russian TV channels over the last two years from Novgorod (I think), Leningrad Regions and Arkhangelsk about the unacceptable conditions in which families (including large families) live. In Arkhangelsk, a barrack-house completely "collapsed" and people managed to run out in what they were wearing. Moreover, the first two stories, by a strange coincidence, were adjacent to favorable reports from new territories about how wonderfully housing and social facilities are being restored and built there...
Mihail55

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4 June 2025 21: 13

How is the current regime in Ukraine better than Hitler's? And only after the forced death of the Fuhrer, in the camp of the unfinished enemy they began to talk about capitulation. Is there anything similar now?
vlad127490

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5 June 2025 00: 05

So we've run out of ideas if we've returned to 2022 for demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine. Who will believe the statements now?
unc-2

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5 June 2025 06: 10

And this is different for everyone. Some raise the Red Flag, others the Tricolor. This is where our whole essence lies. It is possible to establish German order on the liberated territory. They even had a suitable word. Or it is possible to attract activists to work that is useful for everyone. Not officials, but those who sympathize with us.
prior

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5 June 2025 09: 48

How the Kremlin sees the denazification and demilitarization of Ukraine

Does he see her?!
How and what he sees it as became clear back in the now distant year of 2022, immediately after the start of the SVO.
Sergey Latyshev

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5 June 2025 15: 47

Alas, it resembles empty reasoning.
But there is a reality given to us by something there, according to the classics.

Demilitarization: Kyiv did not reach Russian territories, now it does. It lost people, mostly simple mobilized people, "Russians" (according to GDP)... although everyone counts differently. And the entire "elite", with money, connections, power, experience - is alive and well. Even the "unnecessary" Kum was secretly exchanged...

Protection of the population? So there have been more deaths since the 24th than before.

Denazification? So what is listed in the article has only gotten worse so far. To smash the streets to smithereens for them, Bender? And at the same time residential areas like Artemovsk? I haven't come across the first, the second already...
Flight

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5 June 2025 16: 18

If we leave aside the image component, the value of the talks held in Istanbul is that complete clarity has finally been brought to what content the Kremlin is putting into the goals and objectives of the special operation to help the people of Donbass, and the demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine.

Paper will tolerate everything, and there is still no clarity, except for the desire of propagandists to put the wishes of the people into the mouth of the guarantor, although he did not blurt out a word about this, except for the generally accepted in his crowd general words about victory, unity, etc., etc. If you look at when the decision was made to accept the LPR and DPR into the Russian Federation and the beginning of the SVO with a campaign along the edges of these regions. It would have been easier to immediately advance to the border with NATO with the blocking of supply routes, this would have been much more effective, even taking into account the withdrawal from previously occupied positions.
kovaleff

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5 June 2025 19: 48

The Kremlin has excellent eyesight if it can see her
Serj Iff

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13 June 2025 10: 25

Do you see the gopher? No. And I don't see it. But it's there!

This is how the Kremlin sees denazification and demilitarization. Initially, the goals of this strange military operation were designated as the path of the Hedgehog in the Fog. So that victory could be declared at any moment. And then explain at length that this was how it was intended. But with such a vague goal, it is impossible to achieve it. Hence all the throwing. It is clear to everyone that without a change of power in Ukraine, we will not achieve our goals. Zelensky will never agree to our conditions. And no Trump will force him. But our leaders stubbornly convince themselves first of all that the goals of the operation can be achieved through diplomatic means. The longer they convince themselves, the longer this strange military operation will last.
Sergei Fonov

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13 June 2025 14: 06

Having looked at the number of readers and comments, not only of this article, but also of others with news from the Kremlin, you come to the conclusion that readers do not expect breakthrough news from the Kremlin. This is bad, but it is a fact, people are more interested in what is happening at the front, But this is my opinion.
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