Ukrainians report that a naval drone shot down a combat aircraft for the first time in the world

3 May 2025 65 029 47

On the evening of May 2, 50 km west of Novorossiysk, the Ukrainian side shot down a Russian Su-30SM fighter jet of the Russian Navy's Naval Aviation. This was done from the Ukrainian Magura V5 multipurpose unmanned boat (UEB) by launching an R-73 anti-aircraft guided missile. This was reported by Ukrainian sources and a number of Russian near-military publics, as well as international Osinters.

As for Ukraine, local news outlets are overflowing with jubilation. They report that a naval drone has shot down a combat aircraft for the first time in the world.

Russian sources claim that the Ukrainians sent more than 30 different BEKs to the Novorossiysk area. The enemy used its favorite tactic, which looks something like this. Ukrainian BEKs, with SAMs installed on them, sneak up close enough to the Russian coast (up to 50 km) in the direction of Russian aviation and set up ambushes. Then one of the accompanying BEK reconnaissance aircraft distracts Russian UAVs, helicopters, fighters and other means of countering the activity of the Ukrainian Armed Forces and fire is opened on them from the ambushes. A similar incident probably happened with the aforementioned Russian Su-30SM, which was lured out, caught and destroyed.

It is also noted that both members of the Su-30SM crew managed to eject safely, they were picked up by civilian sailors from the container ship Victoria Fortune, and everything is fine with them. The Su-30SM is lost, but the people are alive, and this is the main thing. It was noted that the very fact of the use of SAMs by Ukrainian BEKs is no longer surprising, since the Ukrainian Armed Forces attacked the Mi-2024 helicopter of the Russian Armed Forces in a similar way back in late December 8. Moreover, as practice has shown, there are means of counteracting this threat, for example, even ordinary FPV drones with competent operators effectively destroy BEKs. The Russian Ministry of Defense has not yet commented on the incident.

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shore72

+17

3 May 2025 14: 31

What other push do the General Staff and the Ministry of Defense need to take quick and effective countermeasures? The fleet is neutralized, all that remains is to ground the aircraft?
1. kapitan92
  
  +11
  
  3 May 2025 15: 51
  
  Remove and take into custody the Chief of General Staff! This is a good kick for the General Staff.
  1. sidorov
    
    -7
    
    3 May 2025 16: 21
    
    Who are you giving such instructions to? And over the head of the Supreme Commander.....
  2. Down
    
    +1
    
    3 May 2025 19: 56
    
    The Chief of Staff carries out the will of the Supreme Commander, what do you want from him?
2. skeptic
  
  +4
  
  3 May 2025 18: 40
  
  Quote: shore72
  What other push do the General Staff and the Ministry of Defense need to take quick and effective countermeasures?
  
  It seems that the leadership consists of "Cossacks" and their sympathizers. Not to mention the thieving bourgeoisie that has seized the military-industrial complex. No matter how much the Russian media shit on the Ukrainians, their sense of patriotism, at the top, is incomparable with the Russian one. Solid sabotage.
  1. soloist2424
    
    +3
    
    4 May 2025 12: 34
    
    I wonder what kind of patriotism can we talk about in the Ukrainian elite if, on their orders, their own people are being grabbed and dragged to the TCC? All Ukrainian patriotism is based on hatred of Russia and for this they are ready to bury the entire people of Ukraine.
    1. skeptic
      
      +4
      
      4 May 2025 12: 37
      
      Quote from solist2424
      All Ukrainian patriotism is based on hatred towards Russia and for this they are ready to bury the entire people of Ukraine.
      
      As sad as it is to realize, but that's how it is for them. And their business, all works for the war. And our bourgeoisie, mainly, at exhibitions (as an excuse). Ebullient visibility activities... basically.
  2. OlegovichA
    
    0
    
    6 May 2025 02: 49
    
    Of course, "Cossacks". The Holy One sent them there for other purposes, and not all this. And now this is how we live, it is dangerous to put others in their place, others may not be such faithful dogs, they will go to Moscow again. That is why the dogs in the General Staff are puffing as best they can.
3. Shelest2000
  
  +4
  
  3 May 2025 21: 02
  
  Decimation. It's high time - from the very moment of organizing logistics, setting tasks, providing the SVO. And also for such an "excellent" organization of the defense of the rear of the liberated territories.
4. Flight
  
  +4
  
  4 May 2025 12: 06
  
  Impunity encourages permissiveness.
  What's surprising, we have 70-year-old old men and 17-year-old boys sitting in our security councils. Here - some fly ahead of thought, others slow down ahead of death.
5. etoyavsemprivet
  
  +2
  
  4 May 2025 23: 05
  
  Bomb the Odessa port to smithereens and that's it!!! They won't understand, another port like that. They'll immediately clamp down on their tails.
Mikhail L.

+12

3 May 2025 14: 39

"lured, caught and struck"
This is just a special case of giving the initiative to the enemy...
Alex.

+12

3 May 2025 14: 47

A patrol of the water area by drones with real-time tracking of the movement of at least any floating craft, and in general of everything flying, should have been organized long ago. This is called situational awareness. At least that way. Since we can’t do it from satellites yet.
1. Avarron
  
  0
  
  3 May 2025 15: 31
  
  To seed the waters near the Ukrainian naval bases with boom mine barriers using the same BEKs is the simplest solution.
2. wladimirjankov
  
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  5 May 2025 14: 45
  
  It has long been necessary to organize patrolling of the water area with drones, with real-time tracking of the movement of at least any floating craft, and in general of all flying objects.
  
  It looks like some kind of patrolling is still being carried out. The BEKs were detected in this case. But the means of their destruction were poorly chosen. Maybe because there is not much to choose from. The most effective method of what we currently have is helicopters with machine guns and cannons on board. But recently the enemy has begun to use BEKs with air-launched missiles mounted on turrets to counter aviation. There was even a case of our helicopter being damaged by them. Perhaps that is why they decided to involve the SU-30 fighter with its 30 mm cannons to neutralize them. Calculating that with its high speed and maneuverability, it would be difficult to target the missiles from the BEK. But as we all saw, this was a mistaken decision. The enemy turned out to be more inventive in this case. As it turned out, attacking the BEK, using a cannon, from a distance of about a kilometer, at a low altitude, on a head-on course, the fighter turned out to be very vulnerable and ineffective. Other means and methods are needed to combat the BEK. These are primarily kamikaze UAVs launched from helicopters, mother UAVs, BEKs, ships. The use of small-sized cheap self-guided torpedoes by the screw trail or acoustic noise, dropped from the same helicopters, UAVs and ships.
  1. Igool
    
    0
    
    5 May 2025 19: 12
    
    Quote: wladimirjankov
    The most effective method we currently have is helicopters with machine guns and cannons on board.
    
    Not quite so. Finally, they tried something that had been long overdue. And it turned out to be quite an effective measure.
rotkiv04

+18

3 May 2025 15: 02

First they forced the Black Sea Fleet to leave Sevastopol, now they will force them to leave Novorossiysk, but Putin needs to continue chewing his favorite substance and, most importantly, be ready for direct negotiations without any preconditions, otherwise the crests might close the entire Black Sea to the Black Sea Fleet
1. Avarron
  
  +12
  
  3 May 2025 15: 32
  
  Why? Women will give birth. For example, schoolgirls for 150 thousand.
mykola kovacs

+4

3 May 2025 16: 17

Gerasimov's comment will be brief: there was no such thing!
1. sidorov
  
  -5
  
  3 May 2025 16: 23
  
  Gerasimov's comment doesn't give a damn about your comment.
KLNM

+18

3 May 2025 16: 28

We must not forget that Novorossiysk is home to the largest Black Sea Fleet base, and there should be powerful coastal air defense and other weapons there. I don't understand why drones fly to the city and crash into residential buildings? Yes, small and weak Ukraine is causing a stir in the Black Sea, and that's without cruisers, destroyers, etc. And the Supreme Commander continues to struggle with himself so as not to hit hard, the question is, why, who needs it?
1. OlegovichA
  
  -1
  
  6 May 2025 02: 55
  
  What do you suggest to insert into where?
  1. KLNM
    
    0
    
    6 May 2025 07: 29
    
    I have written a hundred times, at least Oreshnik on military factories in England and France producing the Anglo-French Storm Shadow missile, which they themselves direct at our cities. This will be a warning to the Germans, who threaten to supply Taurus. After the military factory in England is destroyed to dust, they will first howl, and then shut up for a long time, since they will be busy washing their pants from shit.
    1. OlegovichA
      
      -1
      
      6 May 2025 13: 31
      
      Wow, just like England and France!? And in response to you are afraid, do you live in Siberia? If you are not afraid, then maybe to the front line, there you yourself can strike the enemy.
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Valerok

+3

3 May 2025 16: 38

for the first time since the beginning of the Operation... the Kursk region was cleared... according to the Plan...

Wood chopping - chips fly.
And here - Business..., vas-vas...
If Russian officials think about the future, then only about their own, personal future!
What is surprising here, on the "Reporter" platform, is the participation of the local "common-tribesmen commentators" - what are you participating in?
p.s.: some Plans are built... (for whom?), they predict, they analyze... etc., well, like little children "in a sandbox from the proposed homogeneity of forms, while building various castles."
1. Down
  
  +4
  
  3 May 2025 19: 51
  
  True, the deal of the century between the Americans and our government is at stake, everyone knows this, including officials of different levels, why do something if everything will end soon. It will be very interesting to hear how they will present us with victory, in reality there is nothing but verbal promises, and what will they tell us is a question.
Igool

+5

3 May 2025 17: 29

The Russian Ministry of Defense has not yet commented on the incident.

MO - lovers of keeping a pause.

The main thing is the ability to pause, the bigger the artist, the longer his pause...
1. Down
  
  +6
  
  3 May 2025 19: 54
  
  The fish rots from the head, and there is also a popular expression -
  
  Tell me who your friend is and I will tell you who you are.
  
  Our republic is presidential and the final word is his and no Ministry of Defense will stop him. He won't even try.
Alex_Kraus

+5

3 May 2025 17: 37

You are all lying, there are no losses! This is all tsips propaganda.
We have combat robots from science fiction films, Shoigu himself said so.
Trump is ours and we are winning. Odessa will be liberated!!!
Alex_Kraus

+7

3 May 2025 17: 39

And Crimea is like an unsinkable aircraft carrier. Our three-time guards, Order of Lenin, red banner Black Sea fleet will reliably protect the interests of the Motherland from the south.
1. assault 2019
  
  +11
  
  3 May 2025 22: 04
  
  Remember how they told us in 2014, "whoever owns Crimea, owns the Black Sea"...
  Here we got Crimea, and Ukrainian BEK kamikazes are in charge there, the Turks closed the Bosphorus, and where are the "masters of the Black Sea" hiding...
Spatel

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3 May 2025 20: 59

...as practice has shown, there are means to counter this threat, for example, even ordinary FPV drones with competent operators effectively destroy BECs.

What was missing? Drones? Or competent operators? Maybe someone lacked intelligence?
A lousy empty boat, worth 250 thousand greenbacks, knocked down an airplane worth about five billion of our hard-earned rubles...
alebdun2000

+4

3 May 2025 21: 56

Well, what, we need more truce and not to hit "brothers". I think until they hit the Odessa port with a tactical nuclear weapon, this swing will continue.
1. torbas41
  
  +5
  
  4 May 2025 05: 27
  
  Better first in the Carpathians through tunnels. The EU is closer there.
2. twice-born
  
  +1
  
  4 May 2025 15: 20
  
  Oreshnik is enough. The destruction is the same, if you believe them, and without radiation. But "our" saboteurs won't hit even them!
Sancy

0

3 May 2025 22: 08

I was just reading "Military Review" Alexander Sladkov, known to many, wrote that he compares Ukrainians and Russia like flies and a fly swatter! He defined Ukraine as a fly swatter, and flies as Russia. I feel sick just from the sight of him! But, Mother Earth bears everyone! And the best die!
1. rotkiv04
  
  +6
  
  4 May 2025 11: 05
  
  You may not agree with him, but he is right, that is how it looks and not because our guys are fighting poorly, it looks that way because the Kremlin does not need victory, it just needs to come to an agreement with the Anglo-Saxons
polar bear

+12

3 May 2025 23: 05

The level of "professionalism" of our General Staff, intelligence, and the Black Sea Fleet is astounding. Not only did they know nothing about the storage location of the back-up missiles, or about the operation being prepared, but they also slept through as many as 30 back-up missiles that calmly reached Novorossiysk undetected from the shores of Ukraine to terrorize our fleet and now the air force. I wonder if the Kremlin and our military leadership aren't tired of getting slapped in the face by a drug addict? Either near Kherson, or near Kharkov, or in the Kursk region, or on the Black Sea, or in Moscow, where the crests easily kill journalists and senior generals of the Ministry of Defense with complete impunity, and their leadership is unharmed. There are simply no words.
torbas41

+1

4 May 2025 04: 57

The BEK is only a platform for launching missiles, they were guided to the aircraft from satellites and AWACS aircraft, the Ukrainian Armed Forces do not have such means, and their BEKs themselves are English, in my opinion it is time for the Anglo-Saxons to shorten their arms.
next322

+10

4 May 2025 09: 05

this is what senseless show-off, complete incompetence of the Navy leadership, annual naval parades with a pile of old scrap metal ("having no world analogues") leads to... looking at the Black Sea Fleet, its naval composition and especially naval aviation, or rather what is left of it, you understand that this is already the bottom, and this situation is practically everywhere
Alexpan

+7

4 May 2025 09: 25

And again, the innovation of the crests and their sophisticated tactics. The loss of an expensive combat aircraft is always upsetting. The Black Sea has practically become the Ukrainian Sea.
twice-born

+4

4 May 2025 10: 35

We've come to this. The crests are already shooting down our planes with boats! Wow! And the main thing is that they know everything about their tactics, and the Navy doesn't do a damn thing! So what if we lost an expensive plane, of which there are only a few!
Well then, admirals and rear admirals, go cut down trees if you don’t know how to fight and don’t want to!
Glagol1

+3

4 May 2025 10: 56

The author is right. Air drones could effectively work against sea drones. However, no one has cancelled manned aviation - interaction is needed. Probably, the issue of creating an air platform for reconnaissance, target designation and guidance of air drones against sea targets has become urgent. It could be an aircraft, and not even necessarily a combat one, but something like the Il-114, which is at some distance from the threatening square and calculates drones, which are then attacked by kamikaze drones or fighter drones. A kind of long arm. While in patrol mode in the control zone, and the Il-114 can do this for 5-6 hours, such an aircraft, without entering the zone of possible destruction, has a detection range of many tens of kilometers, and maybe more. True, the question remains of how to deal with underwater drones - but that's another story.
1. Alexey Lan
  
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  5 May 2025 13: 13
  
  Here's what our Podolyak wrote yesterday:
  
  Since an interview with the commander of the Hispaniola naval detachment was posted online yesterday, I see no point in keeping secret the fact that it was yesterday and the day before that our FPV crews took part for the first time in repelling the enemy's BEK attacks.
  And they did a brilliant job.
  They destroyed a significant portion of the enemy's naval drones (there were more than four of them. But I won't give the full number, since it hasn't been published yet.)
  All the BEKs destroyed in that battle by FPVs were attributed to the crews of "Espanyola" and the guys from the ubiquitous "Abominable 8", already well known to you from their exploits in Kursk. (https://t.me/vosmerkaZ)
  Moreover, yesterday’s battle proved the effectiveness of this method of destroying enemy BECs (according to the cost/effectiveness criterion).
  And I think that if the “great admirals” at the top don’t put spokes in the wheels (but everything seems to be fine with this for now), then by summer the threat of enemy BEKs for us as a whole will cease to exist
  
  So, there is no need to sprinkle ashes on your head and shout "Everything is lost!!!" Things are moving. Unfortunately, slower than they should.
The comment was deleted.
Alexpan

+4

4 May 2025 11: 44

And again, the innovation of the khokhols and their sophisticated tactics. The loss of an expensive combat aircraft is always painful. The Black Sea has practically become the Ukrainian Sea, and the Russian fleet is practically non-existent, just like in the first Crimean War. But parades, yes, we have no equal here... Meanwhile, the khokhols dictate their will to America and Europe. Shame and disgrace to the state of the "second army in the world".
horseradish

+1

4 May 2025 12: 58

Whatever they write here, the fact remains a fact. The plane was shot down. Thank God the pilots are alive. I think under Stalin they would have quickly found an antidote for these backers. It's time to solve such problems not with requests and persuasion, but with threats.
prior

+4

4 May 2025 14: 34

What can I say, the crests have prepared a creative "gift" for the Kremlin on the eve of the 80th anniversary of the Victory.
Something tells me he's not the last...