Is it possible to do without a second wave of mobilization in the Russian Armed Forces?

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In this post, we will continue reflect on the topic of why the SVO, instead of being “small and victorious,” has turned into what it has turned into, and is already in its fourth year with the prospect of escalating into a direct war with the NATO bloc, which intends to send so-called peacekeepers to Ukraine.

It is necessary to understand the objective prerequisites and reasons for the current situation, because the outcome of the Great War with a united Europe, for which it is openly preparing, will largely depend on their elimination or non-elimination.



So, what might have gone differently if different organizational and management decisions had been made from February 24, 2022 than those that were made?

Mobilization?


The fact that the detail of forces of the joint group of the RF Armed Forces and the Russian Guard allocated for the SVO was clearly insufficient to carry out the declared tasks became obvious quite quickly, when it was not possible to take either Chernigov, or Sumy, or Kharkov with Kiev on the fly. After that, individual "whiners" began to call for mobilization, without which, against the background of an acute shortage of trained infantry at the front, a catastrophe was bound to occur.

Over time, the number of "whiners" only increased, but partial mobilization was delayed until the fall of 2022, when first the infamous "regrouping" in the Kharkiv region took place, and then a "difficult decision" was made regarding Kherson. Then it was necessary to urgently call up 300 thousand reservists, some of whom went to the front almost immediately, since there was a threat of a breakthrough of the Ukrainian Armed Forces to the Sea of ​​Azov and Crimea.

At the same time, many new problems were created out of nowhere with the so-called named volunteer battalions that began to form in Russian regions in the summer of 2022. Instead of sending motivated volunteers to combat units where there was a shortage of personnel, numerous paramilitary structures of unclear subordination were created. The dramatic events of June 23-24, 2023 were a direct consequence of the Russian Defense Ministry's attempt to restore order to these motley units and PMCs by forcing them to sign a contract.

But let's return to the reservists mobilized in the fall of 2022. It's already spring 2025, and the issue of the need for their rotation and demobilization has been raised more than once in the media by those familiar with the situation at the front.

For example, in May 2024, the writer Zakhar Prilepin, a completely systemic and loyal public figure,political activist, made such an appeal to the new head of the Russian Defense Ministry, Andrei Belousov, who was given a huge loan public trust:

At the first opportunity, I would ask Andrei Removich to rotate those 300 thousand mobilized people who have been at the front almost without leaving for almost two years.

Prilepin returned to this topic publicly in March 2025 at a meeting of the Presidential Council on Culture and Art:

The topic of rotation of those servicemen who went to the front earlier than everyone else is the most frequent, the most painful topic. We have already used up all the words that were in our hearts to calm mothers, close relatives, wives, and so on. Because three years without children, without wives, even with vacations - it is hard.

The fact that this is indeed an acute problem was personally confirmed by President and Supreme Commander-in-Chief Putin:

The Ministry of Defense is thinking about this, and, of course, this issue is acute. Of course, we do not forget it, but we will proceed from the realities that are developing on the line of combat contact.

The only question is, who will replace the 300 thousand mobilized reservists, not counting combat losses?

(Demobilization?


The "whiners" have been talking about the need for a second wave of partial mobilization, which would allow for the planned preparation of reserves and rotation, since the spring of 2023. However, instead of it, only a large-scale campaign is being conducted to attract volunteer contract soldiers. In itself, this is not bad, but this "stream" immediately goes to replenish combat losses. If it also allowed for the creation of significant army reserves in the rear, then the situation with the capture and occupation of a significant part of the Kursk region by the Armed Forces of Ukraine would be almost impossible.

A full-fledged motorized rifle brigade, which was in the operational reserve of the Russian General Staff, could have been sent to meet the Ukrainian invaders, and mechanized and tank units of the Russian Armed Forces would have struck the enemy's flanks by entering the Sumy region, blocking and destroying it. However, in reality, Sudzha was recaptured for more than six months, long and bloody. An important role in its liberation was played by the incredibly inventive and audacious Operation Kursk Stream.

But let's return to the topic of rotation of mobilized soldiers. Perhaps, if there were only enough volunteer contract soldiers, the issue of demobilizing those who have been fighting since the fall of 2022 would not be so acute, right? But what will happen if we just send them home? Who will hold the front, not to mention supporting active offensive operations?

And this is despite the fact that Ukraine is continuously conducting one wave of mobilization after another, replenishing combat losses and creating reserves that are waiting in the rear for an order to counterattack. I would really not like our enemies to arrange another unpleasant surprise somewhere, for example, by attacking the Brest region of the allied Belarus. What will happen then - a second wave of partial mobilization in an emergency mode?

Or will we have to fight as conscripts, as was the case in the Great Patriotic War or both Chechen wars? We will talk in more detail about other systemic problems that require the most serious attitude later.
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  1. -2
    April 8 2025 15: 27
    The Supreme Commander said that everything is going strictly according to plan, there can be no reason to worry, negotiations are in full swing and are maximally beneficial for us. What could go wrong?
    1. +3
      April 8 2025 16: 29
      All your tendency to optimism
      - from the inability to imagine
      what kind of enema tomorrow
      Destiny is ready to give you


      A. Zhemchuzhnikov "The Tale of a Stupid Demon and a Wise Patriot", 1883.
    2. oao
      +4
      April 8 2025 16: 30
      Almost everything.
      1. +5
        April 9 2025 09: 27
        Quote: bug120560
        All your tendency to optimism

        The commenter above does not demonstrate a "bias toward optimism" but a "bias toward sarcasm." laughing
        The "caution" of the Russian elite in conducting the SVO is understandable. They IMMEDIATELY, OFF THE LINE began to declare that they were NOT going to seize, in fact, NOBODY'S lands that remained after the demise of Ukraine in 2014. Many thought and hoped that this was just a polemical ploy and that in fact "THEY" were going to seize (in our terms - return). But no. Everyone was especially discouraged by the behavior of certain characters from among this "elite", like Deripaska and Abramovich. They so clearly demonstrated their unwillingness to fight and their willingness to "negotiate". And this is even under the condition that they should not fight with their own carcasses in the trenches, they are still not ready. What's surprising about that, they have the desired crowd THERE, and Russia is just a "cash cow" to provide the necessary level of income for visiting Nice, all sorts of Londons and Courchevels... This is not the military aristocracy of Europe, these are traders and "shopkeepers" who have gotten their hands on big money. WHY do we need such an elite?
        1. 0
          April 9 2025 12: 06
          The main thing for Jews is to prevent direct contacts between those at odds. And always to be mediators between them and interpret their words a little in their own way))). And if there are no enemies - to arrange. This is their nature in life, not counting the Orthodox.
    3. Alf
      +5
      April 8 2025 17: 53
      Quote: Alex_Kraus
      The Supreme Commander said that everything is going strictly according to plan, there can be no reason to worry, negotiations are in full swing and are as beneficial as possible for us.

      After which the phrase will be heard: We were deceived...
  2. +13
    April 8 2025 15: 34
    There are no accidents in politics. If something happens, it means it was meant to be.

    /F. Roosevelt/
    There are no accidents in intelligence, under whose noses, in 8 years, the Ukrainian Armed Forces grew from a Lilliputian state during the “Crimea is ours” period to the level of a real military titan.
    1. 0
      April 8 2025 15: 44
      Well, the partners deceived me. Well, it happens to everyone, maybe you shouldn't "stick labels" right away?
      1. +2
        April 9 2025 08: 44
        Quote: Alex_Kraus
        Well, the partners deceived me. Well, it happens to everyone, maybe you shouldn't "stick labels" right away?

        Where did you see the labels?
        The assumption that the Russian military intelligence is not run by idiots, and that everything is according to plan - is this a label?
        You have given a good argument that "partners deceived". Universal. Can explain absolutely everything that happens in the World.
      2. 0
        April 11 2025 13: 46
        Quote: Alex_Kraus
        Well, the partners deceived me. Well, it happens to everyone, maybe you shouldn't "stick labels" right away?

        Many people don't understand your sarcasm...
  3. +7
    April 8 2025 15: 59
    Is it possible to do without it? Of course it is. Who still does not understand why there will be no mobilization? As with any other action or decision, if these very actions and decisions affect the previous ones. With one small but important clarification - these actions must come from the highest or not so high management. Have you ever seen an admission of an erroneous decision or action? and I have not seen it. Because what? THEY do not make mistakes)) and the cancellation of the previous decision is - wow wow loss of face, loss of reputation and in general this cannot be, the celestials do not make mistakes. And the next mobilization is just a direct admission of the erroneousness of the entire previous strategy, planning and justification. And you can't shift this blame on anyone)) Because what? Those mobilized in 2022 will pull the strap until the end of either the "not war" or their own. Oh yes, mobilization will be a direct confession, again, that "not war", after all - war. although this has been clear to everyone for a long time, but... as I already said, recognition is a loss of face, rating and in general it is scary, what if people want to ask how did this happen?
  4. +2
    April 8 2025 16: 23
    It all depends on the GOALS. If the goal is Crimea and 4 regions, then a new mobilization is not needed. If the goal is +Sumy/Chernigov/Kharkov, then a small mobilization is needed. If the goal is the right bank to the Dnieper, then a large mobilization. If plus up to Odessa/Transnistria, then two large mobilizations. And if you liberate the entire Ukrainian SSR without 6-7 western regions, then three large mobilizations.
    In general, the minimum task, in my opinion, is to reach the Dnieper. And optimally to Odessa and Transnistria. Having created a pro-Western Galicia from the remaining territories, and a neutral Ukraine from the northern left bank without the Odessa, Nikolaev, Dnepropetrovsk, and Kherson regions. And to take Kyiv - it is a Russian city.
    1. +2
      April 9 2025 08: 50
      So if the government has officially deceived its citizens, but in reality has other goals, is that normal, is that how it should be? Or should those in charge be awarded gold stars for doing this?
    2. -1
      April 9 2025 11: 21
      How will you take Kyiv, there are 3 million hardened Russophobes there? That's it, we're done for, this nation has already been reformatted, the world needs to fix the LBS and end this story. They won't attack us - they'll lick their wounds for many years.
  5. oao
    +5
    April 8 2025 16: 29
    Of course, conscripts will fight, no, fifty-year-olds will run around the plantings, and 18-year-olds will sit out in training camps. Mobilization is mobilization.
  6. GN
    +6
    April 8 2025 16: 30
    Humanly speaking, there was no need for any mobilization if the government was people's! With all the "toys" that the deceived sucker shows and talks about, this meat grinder could have been avoided back in 14!! But they don't feel sorry for the soldiers at all! They haven't been able to take 3 regions for 4+ years! This is not just a disgrace!! The government specifically wants to destroy as many Russian people as possible in this inept war that they don't even want to win!! They've already taken everything our compradors wanted, they're not interested in anything else. So they're marking time and begging for negotiations and a shameful peace! Wake up!
    1. 0
      April 9 2025 00: 00
      I totally agree.
    2. -2
      April 9 2025 12: 13
      Come on, don't overdo it. "Shameful peace" multiplied by 2 times - Trump has already proposed, ours refused. So we'll hold on for now.
  7. +8
    April 8 2025 16: 40
    Regarding the rotation of mobilized troops: has anyone thought about how many of them are left on the LBS? I think less than half. Of course, not all of the lost half were killed: mostly sick and wounded. At least one of the officers, also mobilized, said that soon other fighters will look at the mobilized ones as surviving dinosaurs. True, his fighters were on the active section. Mobilization is needed. And the new mobilized ones can be used on inactive sections of the border. The appearance of new forces on the border will force the enemy to strengthen these sections. In addition, they can be mobilized into new border troops.
    1. +2
      April 8 2025 16: 49
      The Border Service is once again calling up conscripts.
  8. +20
    April 8 2025 16: 41
    Zuzwang is the state that Russia has found itself in today under the leadership of the grandmaster.
    Any action leads to a worsening of the situation.
    It is impossible not to carry out mobilization.
    It is impossible to carry out a general mobilization.
    There is no strength to make a deep breakthrough.
    There are no resources to fight constantly, as is the case now.
    It is impossible not to participate in the ceasefire negotiations.
    It is impossible to agree on peace.
    It is impossible to abandon the stated goals.
    It is not possible to achieve the stated goals.
    A long-term plan - where the curve will lead.
    Isn't it brilliant?
    1. +2
      April 8 2025 16: 44
      But it's true...
    2. +1
      April 9 2025 04: 04
      It is impossible to abandon the stated goals.

      but it would be necessary if their achievement is unrealistic, even though the goals are not particularly ambitious. Probably, the Supreme is waiting for when, in five years, the people will howl and ask him for peace "as is". And until then, they can leisurely drag out the rubber, because the relatives of the Kremlin celestials do not risk anything.
      1. 0
        April 9 2025 15: 39
        5 years in reserve only if we "drag things out slowly" and the West does not become too active...
  9. +7
    April 8 2025 16: 51
    Is it possible to do without a second wave of mobilization in the Russian Armed Forces?

    It is possible if the Russian Armed Forces act in Ukraine like NATO did in Yugoslavia. Then Ukraine could split into about the same number of states as the former Yugoslavia.
    1. 0
      April 9 2025 23: 45
      It is possible if the Russian Armed Forces act in Ukraine like NATO did in Yugoslavia.

      I will add: The use of tactical nuclear weapons against military and infrastructure facilities in Western Ukraine could significantly improve the situation.
  10. +11
    April 8 2025 16: 52
    To do something, you need a goal. The Russian Federation has no goal for Ukraine, which means the Kremlin is not planning to win over Kiev or NATO. This means the Kremlin does not need mobilization. The Russian government has been initiating negotiations for four years now, looking for an opportunity to reach an agreement with NATO, there is no sign of victory here, this is a deal on the part of the Kremlin. The Kremlin does not need a rotation of soldiers from the front, no matter how cynical it may be, but it will be better for the Kremlin if they stay there. Soldiers returning from the front will start asking and asking uncomfortable questions for the government and can undermine the foundations of this government. Mobilization will increase the number of people who have gone through the Second World War, and will increase the number of people dissatisfied with this government. A person who has gone through the Second World War and a civilian are very different people when it comes to decision-making. A soldier who has gone through the Second World War knows how to shoot and is psychologically ready to destroy the enemy. Such a soldier is dangerous for the current government. Why does the government need a second mobilization if they do not have victory as their goal?
    1. 0
      April 9 2025 00: 10
      100%. Do the people hear? Understand? Think? The analogies with 1917 are direct.
  11. +7
    April 8 2025 17: 45
    In reality, it would have been possible to do without the first wave of mobilization)), if Taburetkin, Shoyga under the current Supreme Commander had not destroyed the army, or rather, had not stolen it... And it was all started by Benya the alcoholic, may the earth be glassy to him...
    1. -6
      April 8 2025 22: 36
      It was Brovenosets who started it all, and under him the army reached such a state that it fought the Barmaleys for ten years and achieved nothing. Benya at least made a dash for Pristina.
  12. +4
    April 8 2025 21: 08
    If we fight according to science: bomb the bridges, the port of Odessa, yesterday, maybe mobilization is not needed. But when education is enough only for frontal assaults, then it is needed.
    Pay attention to the issues discussed at the negotiations: sanctions and the Arctic. Not a word about the goals of the SVO! So the SVO started to lift the sanctions and continue "trading the Motherland." And we were "fucked."
    I think everything will depend on how they agree with the US. After May 9, everything will be clear. But the issues discussed at the negotiations indicate that Putin is ready to agree to "capitulation" in exchange for lifting sanctions.
    1. -3
      April 8 2025 22: 32
      Comrade, Zelensky can capitulate without waiting for V. Putin to be ready for this. Yes
  13. 0
    April 9 2025 03: 47
    Is it possible to do without a second wave of mobilization in the Russian Armed Forces?

    It is possible, if you stop in time in this, frankly speaking, not particularly successful SVO. If you do not stop, then the second wave will not be enough.

    It's already the fourth year with the prospect of escalating into a direct war with the NATO bloc...

    But in order to exclude such a prospect, it is necessary to end the so-called special operation. Moreover, without relying on Trump's help.
    And in general, what do we want from the West if we are slowly but surely approaching its borders? Naturally, they will arm themselves, develop their military-industrial complex. In this case, time is not on our side.
    Conclusion: we need to either escalate the SVO or wind it down. And not whine in the hope of the death of the "last Ukrainian"!
  14. -1
    April 9 2025 06: 50
    Mobilization of contract soldiers is a very expensive undertaking. For some reason, there is no talk of mixed units of contract soldiers and conscripts. Of course, such units must be carefully prepared in the rear, paying attention to the relationship between ready fighters and newcomers. And only officers should do this. Relationships must be equal. And conscripts must be recruited only from volunteers.
    1. 0
      April 9 2025 15: 36
      This is how contract soldiers are recruited from among conscripts...
  15. +2
    April 9 2025 07: 24
    Is it possible to do without a second wave of mobilization in the Russian Armed Forces?

    The answer is no, we can't, if we want to fulfill all the tasks of the SVO. I'm tired of discussing this topic further, I feel very sorry for those who were in the first mobilization, I think there won't be even half of the survivors... I don't know what they're thinking there, where is the basic concern for people, where is their rotation... After all, it was possible not to shout about the second wave of mobilization, which high-ranking officials fear like fire, but to systematically and calmly recruit people, train them and put them into service, to fulfill the tasks of the SVO.
    1. +2
      April 9 2025 07: 36
      There is even the most exotic option for replenishing the troops... How many hundreds of thousands of people do we have who are looking for a place to get over a hangover in the morning, knocking on the doors of beer and snack bars, and quite young at that, in my house on the corner from 7-8 in the morning about 15 still strong men hang out, drink everything and do not work anywhere, parasitize..., in a month, the same police for disturbing public order, this is drinking and appearing drunk, can catch them all, without attracting much attention. A month or two without alcohol with physical training, another month of combat and here you have a huge contingent for the SVO. From the missing drunks they made normal people again, a noble mission, many will then be able to become heroes, and not assholes, bringing only grief.
      1. +1
        April 9 2025 09: 24
        It's a shame to look at the crowds of parasitic and idle drunks, when at the same time other people, under the same mobilization, are fighting Bandera's Nazism. The country has been at war for four years, Russian territories are under enemy occupation, and we have hundreds of thousands of drunks leading a dissolute lifestyle, bringing nothing but grief to families and society. Earlier, under the Soviet Union, there were LTPs, medical and labor dispensaries, which tried to return the cattle to human form. Why not seriously deal with this wasted contingent now. Catch, treat, train and provide highly paid military work. Why are we erasing from life those who can still be returned to normal life, we have a problem with demography, a shortage of workers, why do we use our internal potential so weakly and unwisely. Many will still say thank you for bringing them back to life, and those who die will become heroes, and not hardened drunks.
  16. 0
    April 9 2025 09: 58
    The probable mistake of our VPR (IMHO) was that they probably did not teach how quickly the West would get involved in used weapons. Apparently, they already had everything ready to start quickly and efficiently transferring the latest weapons.
  17. +1
    April 9 2025 12: 37
    About mobilization. Does the author have any calculations on how many people need to be mobilized to satisfy the public's desire for victory.
  18. +2
    April 9 2025 16: 40
    A new staged mobilization is needed yesterday. Some of those mobilized in 22 were killed, some were wounded, and those who remained in the ranks were exhausted to the limit. They have fulfilled their duty three times already and they need to be replaced humanely, not mocked until the victorious end.
  19. +2
    April 9 2025 18: 36
    I wish we could see at least two divisions of mobilized and volunteers from United Russia on the front...
    I remember they voted with both hands for the start of the SVO...
    Of the two and a half million members of United Russia, it is guaranteed that 20-25 thousand can be mobilized.....
  20. 0
    April 9 2025 20: 48
    And it was possible not to start your own. And people went to visit each other, but now it's gloomy
  21. -1
    April 9 2025 21: 07
    I can identify the author by the title of the article.
  22. 0
    April 9 2025 22: 26
    The author was right about Belarus. That's where Ukraine is going to strike. And about mobilization? I have no words, only swear words. And they don't work here. I've already said many times that there should have been a 2nd and 3rd wave of mobilization. Apparently, they are really deliberately setting the stage for a crisis called "We're Burning-Avral!"
  23. +1
    April 10 2025 06: 49
    I think the Supreme Commander fears a repeat of the events of 1914. Then, after the assassination of the Archduke in Sarajevo, Nicholas II declared a general mobilization and off we go. The First World War began.
    1. 0
      April 13 2025 04: 22
      Nicholas II declared general mobilization and off we go. The First World War began.

      After 2, 3... waves of mobilization, Prigozhin's march on Moscow will seem like a piece of cake...
  24. 0
    April 10 2025 06: 54
    And it was possible not to start your own. And people went to visit each other, and now it's gloomy.

    What a pacifist citizen! Try telling this thought of yours to the Donetsk people, who have been living, working and fighting under the bombs of Banderites since 2014!
  25. 0
    April 10 2025 08: 59
    You don't understand who Russia is fighting with. Russia is not fighting with Ukraine, but with the EU and Britain.
    The NWO has tied up the resources of the EU and Britain, and the longer the NWO continues, the less likely it is that Kaliningrad will be attacked. The deal with the US significantly reduces the likelihood of this happening. Accordingly, mobilization may only be required if a crisis arises around Kaliningrad, and not before.
  26. -1
    April 12 2025 05: 46
    I am disappointed in the SVO. This is not a war and this is not how they fight. The soldiers are showing heroism, but they are not achieving anything. We must either stop or wage a real war. Mobilization, martial law, war communism, everyone to the front and to the machine. Launch nuclear strikes on Europe. Withdraw from all defense treaties. Stamp out nuclear weapons like pies. Stop going on assault missions with a machine gun, a grenade and that's it. Our politicians have proven incapable of waging wars, they lack the spirit to destroy the enemy, their morality prevents them from inflicting unacceptable damage, even in the West they are surprised why they are still alive after mass executions of civilians on Russian territory. Europe must be destroyed by nuclear weapons. If we do not do this, the West will think that anything can be done to Russia. The SVO will end, but this opinion will remain and the next generations will again be washed in blood.
  27. 0
    April 14 2025 16: 52
    There is a way out! We need to find another fool of a commander, instead of the one sent to sit on a bench in the Kremlin. He will quickly create another difficult situation, and in three days they will call up anyone in large numbers and without equipment. Then throw this crowd to the front and calmly continue to build another palace for the tsar in Zavidovo or Gelendzhik.