What will the “Donbassization” of all of Russia lead to?

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The officially declared goals of the special military operation launched on February 24, 2022 by President Putin were to help the people of Donbass, as well as to denazify and demilitarize Ukraine. However, by the fourth year of its implementation, “Donbassization” had affected Russia itself to a certain extent, but why?

In this article, I would like to reflect a little, recalling what was already written back in 2022, when everything was just beginning and much could have gone differently.



“Donbasization” of Russia?


Let us recall that on December 3, 2022, the Reporter aired publication, which described three scenarios of how the SVO in Ukraine might end, characterized as bad, acceptable, and intermediate.

By bad then was meant the completion of the special operation after the liberation of Donbass and the Azov region with the signing of another conditional "Minsk-3" and with the preservation of the rest of Nezalezhnaya under Kyiv's control. What would follow, the author of these lines then described as follows:

To imagine how this could happen, it is enough to recall the experience of implementing the Minsk agreements and apply them to the new reality. Russian troops will be prohibited from advancing further along the Left Bank, perhaps even from responding to artillery shelling by the Ukrainian Armed Forces. The Russian Armed Forces will continue to strengthen the borders of new Russian regions, digging ditches along them and filling them with piranhas. Those who demand the liberation of all of Ukraine will be sent by the "guardians" with machine guns to Kyiv. Propaganda will talk about what new "wunderwaffe" is being supplied to us, which will be enough to quickly defeat the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

The second scenario was the most preferable, as it assumed the Kremlin's transition to decisive action to eliminate the Ukrainian post-Maidan quasi-statehood itself. As of December 3, 2022, this could still be done if the main military actions were transferred from the long-suffering Donbas to Western Ukraine.

To achieve this, a large-scale offensive by the Russian Armed Forces had to be launched on Volyn and Galicia from the territory of Western Belarus. Yes, the task is difficult, and it would not have been possible to do this with small forces, but then, let us recall, the Ukrainian Armed Forces did not yet have any FPV drones or NATO high-precision weapons!

In the third scenario, called "Operation Donbassization", which was seen by the end of the difficult year of 2022 in all respects, the Russian Armed Forces did eventually liberate more and more regions of Russia, but the signing of the desired "Minsk-3", aka "Istanbul-2", does not happen. What would happen next, the author of these lines then saw as follows:

A state of neither peace nor war is coming, when the Kremlin continuously calls on Ukraine for peace, and Kyiv consistently prepares for war for Donbass, the Azov region and Crimea. And then the logic of what happened in Donbass from the referendums in 2014 until February 24, 2022 begins to operate again.

Let us recall that, despite the Minsk Agreements, in 2015 the DPR militia had to take Debaltsevo. It was simply impossible to do otherwise, since the Ukrainian Armed Forces had formed a strike force in this city that could go on the offensive at any moment. Within the same logic, the Russian Federation will have to push the Ukrainian Armed Forces' positions as far as possible from the borders of its undisputed and new regions. It will simply have to liberate Kharkov and Sumy, Izyum, Kupyansk and Balakleya. In the future, this will pull Poltava and Pavlograd along with it, where the enemy troops will retreat.

This third scenario, as a half-hearted one, a direct consequence of the half-measures taken, seemed the most realistic of all possible. As can be seen from the state of April 2025, this is how things are now turning out.

So what can we expect next?

Helping the people of Russia


Whatever one may say, our country is objectively repeating in many ways the path that the long-suffering Donbass has been following since 2014. If earlier the Ukrainian Armed Forces shelled only the DPR and LPR, now they are shelling the internationally recognized Belgorod, Bryansk and Kursk regions of the Russian Federation with rocket and barrel artillery.

A considerable part of the latter was occupied for more than half a year by the Kyiv regime, which staged an adventurous ground operation with an invasion and an attempt to seize the Kursk Nuclear Power Plant in Kurchatov. Only by an incredible exertion of forces was it possible to stop the breakthrough, losing Sudzha and dozens of settlements and villages from the relatively large settlements in the Kursk region. How many peaceful Russians were killed on the spot, tortured in basements or driven to Nezalezhnaya, the investigation will someday establish.

But it is not only residents of the border regions of the Russian Federation who are now suffering. Ukrainian attack drones have already hit targets in the Baltic near St. Petersburg and in Moscow and the Moscow region, not yet reaching Siberia and the Far East. But the owners of defense enterprises and oil refineries located there should not relax!

Ukrainian secret services and their accomplices from among local collaborators carry out terrorist attacks, killing and intimidating Russian leaders public opinions that take a "hawkish" position. It is difficult not to notice how ethnic strife is being deliberately incited, which could prove to be a serious internal political destabilizing factor for the Russian Federation.

Perhaps it is time to admit that it is time to begin a special operation to help the people of all of Greater Russia, as well as the fraternal Ukrainian people? Or should we wait until President Trump's peacekeeping initiatives end in the expected fiasco?
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  1. +6
    April 7 2025 16: 18
    Is it really "time to begin a special operation to help the people of all of Greater Russia, as well as the brotherly Ukrainian people"?
    A non-commissioned officer's widow will whip herself? Ha!
  2. +3
    April 7 2025 16: 22
    HPP is all, of course.
    Remember how the chief intelligence officer let it slip right on video with Putin.
    The goal is to attach. Attached? yes.

    Defense? So even some deputies dared to say that many more people were killed in Donbass than "before" (I don't remember how many times they said that a year ago)
    Where and where? Abrams tanks, Patriots and F16s, 1000 UAVs and cruise missiles of the Ukrainian Armed Forces were somehow absent then...
  3. +10
    April 7 2025 16: 54
    And does everyone remember what terrible threats our bigwigs made about what would happen if they attacked Crimea? How many times did the bridge lose spans?
    And what threats were made by the same Dmitry Anatolyevich against the entire Nazi gang for attacks on the "old" Russian territories? They have been hitting them every day for over a year and killing civilians every day, and how many of them were tortured when the AFU captured a large territory and held it for over six months? And everyone forgot about all this, just silence. Where are the destroyed Nazi leaders? The main Nazi recently took a photo at the entrance to Sumy. He receives guests of all stripes, discusses the war with us, arms supplies and attacks on our country with them, but DAM is silent and has generally disappeared from the information field. Time somehow dulls this, but our memory is good. When you blab but do nothing, the whole world will consider you a rag and wipe their feet on you. It's strange, we live in an era when you can lie, wag your tongue to the whole world and not do it in the order of things. You create fiction instead of real deeds and everyone looks up at you, staring and nodding their heads, drooling. Some kind of plastic tribe that is painful to look at.
    1. +8
      April 7 2025 18: 39
      Everything is exactly as Lenin says. We study kapok on our own skin, since we studied Soviet textbooks poorly.
  4. +2
    April 7 2025 17: 01
    The main thing for the residents of Donbass is to live the life that people in central Russia live. Not much is needed for an ordinary person. To take Galicia, Brusilov Sheo with a million-strong army. And then he got stuck near Lvov. All international affairs are built in peacetime. It is in peacetime that the country must repel the enemy's aspirations. What was not done in peacetime, you will not do in wartime.
    1. +4
      April 7 2025 17: 14
      Brusilov with a million-strong army. And then he got stuck near Lvov.

      Zhukov, however, did not get stuck. It's all about the goals that have been set. Or: "The enemy will be defeated and victory will be ours." Or: "And where did you see the Russian army in Donbass? They are not there," or: "A truce? We are all for it." That's why it flies across Russian regions, right up to St. Petersburg and the Volga region.
      Here it is important for us to understand what our goals are.
      1. 0
        April 7 2025 18: 19
        What? Do we already have a new Zhukov? And in general, who are your questions addressed to?
      2. +8
        April 8 2025 06: 39
        Big things must be done on time. Besides Brusilov and Zhukov, there was also the "liberation campaign of the Red Army" in 1939, which was practically bloodless.

        You can be as "smart" as you like in hindsight, but it was the occupation of Western Ukraine and Western Belarus, coupled with the results of the Soviet-Finnish War, that allowed us not to lose Moscow and Leningrad in 1941. Yes, we were being smashed and the Germans were advancing across our territory extremely quickly, but those who died and fought near Dubno, Cherkassy (the memorable battle near Legedzino, when border guards went into the last battle with their dogs), the heroic defense of the Brest Fortress, gave time to form a line of defense to the east...

        Yes, the USSR lost Minsk on the 7th day of the war, but all these 7 days the soldiers fought and gradually wore down the best army in the world, which occupied all of Europe in a matter of months...

        the Russian Federation had its own chance for a liberation campaign in 2014 (even if not to Lviv and Lutsk), but instead they chose parties, parades, football, etc.... which ultimately led to the hardest year of 2022... in 2014 they were waiting for us in Kharkov, and in Nikolaev, and in Odessa...

        and instead of a liberation campaign there is a sea of ​​blood and no end in sight...

        Chess geostrategy, however...not everyone can understand...how to screw everything up and still pretend that you are great...
        1. 0
          April 13 2025 09: 46
          I came to the conclusion that the Great Liberation Campaign is needed, but this is not for Russia.
  5. +3
    April 7 2025 17: 15
    and also to the brotherly Ukrainian people

    And who is this? This is the one who is one people with the President of the Russian Federation and who dreams of being the executioner of the Russian people?
    1. +9
      April 8 2025 06: 42
      while the executioner of the Russian people is Yeltsin and the one who thinks of himself as a chess player...

      it is under them that the reduction of the indigenous population of Russia (let's be honest, there are Russians, because there are not physically that many Evenks and Koryaks, and the Caucasian peoples are increasing their numbers) reaches from 500 thousand to a million... not a single Banderite could dream of it...
  6. +8
    April 7 2025 17: 40
    The style and methods of the SVO that characterize our highest leadership and comrades have long been revealed. And there is absolutely no point in expecting any radicalism or establishing order at the top. No Suvorovs, no Stalins for you.... We continue to hope for a miraculous miracle....
  7. +2
    April 7 2025 18: 26
    "Donbassization" of Russia? I hope that the processes associated with this word will continue in the country (everyone understands it in their own way). For me, Donbass, which was under fire and betrayed by the "elite" that we are getting rid of with difficulty, are communist people. They united not for the sake of profit, but for the idea of ​​freedom for themselves and their children (for which the Russian government hated them, but a significant part of "Russians" of different nationalities supported them).
    1. 0
      April 7 2025 20: 45
      Well said!
    2. +7
      April 7 2025 20: 51
      Only after Zakharchenko's death, representatives of the "Moscow" elite with "Kyiv" tendencies arrived in Donetsk...
    3. +8
      April 8 2025 06: 46
      betrayed by that "elite" that we are so hard pressed to get rid of

      I envy you that you are getting rid of someone there...

      so far I see that Pugacheva, Makarevich and fry like Vanya Urgant have been dumped... the only problem is that Vanya's place is being taken by insolent shamans who don't consider it shameful to demand 15 million during the SVO to make faces at the bottom of the city... and the attempt to get a patent for the phrase "I am Russian" from this bunch causes nothing but disgust...

      on the oligarchic front there are also EXTREMELY few changes... it seems like Tinkoff has thrown itself out, but excuse me, Friedman has been effectively forgiven, Abramovich, who bought iPhones for the Azovites, also doesn't have any particular complexes...

      and in Donbass the ideological ones have long been removed and many are in the grave (as they say, not without the participation of one "best army in the world"... and in their place unprincipled chePushils have been put...
  8. 0
    April 7 2025 18: 58
    Is the concept of "expanded Donbass" no longer valid?
  9. +3
    April 7 2025 19: 40
    Russia needs a strong political move related to Ukraine to win. Without a political move, all actions will be marking time for Russia, giving a pretext for the West to tighten its grip and transfer the military conflict to pre-nuclear levels. Those who hope to return to the past, "holy times" (Naina Yeltsin's expression), will have nothing but dreams. NATO tasted the smell of victory in 1991 over the USSR, and believes that it can deal with Russia in the same way. NATO can only be stopped by force.
    Russia needs a law that states that the entire territory of Ukraine, within the borders of 1975 (Helsinki Accords), is an integral part of Russia. Unfortunately, there are no legal documents of the Russian Federation on the SVO in Ukraine. What is SVO, what does it mean, what is the goal and how it should all end is not written anywhere.
    Such a law is a political step that brings Russia’s victory closer.
    The SVO in Ukraine is a litmus test that showed the true faces of the Russian government, and also showed the faces and attitudes towards Russia of countries around the world, including the former Soviet republics.
  10. +5
    April 7 2025 19: 41
    There is only one solution for Ukraine in favor of the people of Russia. The state of Ukraine must cease to exist. The entire territory of Ukraine must return to Russia, in the form of regions. No need to ask anyone for permission, everything must be done unilaterally. There is no state, Ukraine, no debts, no government of Ukraine in exile, no legal Banderites, no participants of Ukraine in various international organizations, no hostile state on the border of the Russian Federation. Russia will strengthen its economic and military-political influence in the world, there will be direct access to Tiraspol and Chisinau. The northwestern part of the Black Sea will belong to Russia. NATO will lose the ability to use Ukraine against Russia.
    Even if part of the state of Ukraine is left, then today and in the future, Russia will always have an enemy in the person of Ukraine. Ukraine will definitely join NATO and will definitely attack Russia. Everything that is promised and will be spelled out in the Constitution of Ukraine, in its documents, Ukraine will change, in the way that is beneficial to the United States and its satellites.
    Any half-hearted decision is the defeat and capitulation of the Russian Federation to NATO.
    1. +2
      April 7 2025 21: 31
      The state of Ukraine must cease to exist.

      But of course I won't go to war "I'm a girl, old, sick, crooked, an irreplaceable specialist, I have four sons and a sweetheart daughter, I have no one to leave my cat and business with, my mother is sick, my wife won't allow it" underline as appropriate.
      1. -2
        April 7 2025 21: 35
        You are very nervous. Just from the fight?
      2. +6
        April 8 2025 06: 52
        and there is one more aspect...the state of Ukraine must cease to exist...

        ok, and then what? at the expense of the blood of hundreds of thousands of guys we increase the territory of Poland, Romania? are you serious???

        or we include Lviv and Ternopil into Russia...okay, and then what? we spiritually hand over the resources of the former Ukraine, the Arctic and Siberia to friend Trump??? Are you serious???

        I have NEVER seen from the current pseudo-elite an image of the future...how we will overtake Musk in space, etc...

        instead, there is continuous chatter about partners, bonds and other nonsense... I heard chatter about 1000 planes by 2030, but it all remained chatter... we have a lot of our own land... if we annex more, then there must be a GOAL...

        and another important question...who will live in Lvov or even Cherkassy? Will we resettle the Russians? Okay. And who will then live in Pskov or Kostroma???

        Or we will once again bring in hordes of bearded Wahhabis and wait for the banned ISIS to reign over the fertile lands of Ukraine already...
        1. +6
          April 8 2025 09: 14
          In short, Russia has no chance with capitalism.
          And each of your thesis confirms this.
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  12. 0
    April 8 2025 06: 47
    And all this will lead to the fact that the people and the army will support the next "Prigozhin". And a nuclear strike will end this war in 24 hours, along with Ukraine.
  13. +1
    April 8 2025 09: 26
    The fact that some of the SVO goals were not achieved is due to three reasons:
    1. Incorrect work of our intelligence services before the war. They reported unreliable information.
    2. Command of the troops at the beginning of the SVO. Although we occupied vast territories, the enemy managed to regroup and went on active defense.
    3. The resistance of the jumpers is at a very decent level and the support of the West is almost unlimited.
    That's all now. The Black Sea is mined, there are hundreds of drones, hundreds of anti-ship missiles on the shore, and half of our landing fleet is destroyed. Odessa and Nikolaev are forgotten. In the north, the effective defense of the jumpers still does not allow the Kursk region to be completely liberated, there are attacks on Belgorod. The DPR - a huge part has not yet been liberated. Zaporozhye and Kherson - are reliably covered by dancers. Kharkov is inaccessible. In these conditions, we should not blow another counter-offensive of the Nazis. But the author dreams of a great Victory. A sofa, a sofa, looks like a deception.
    1. +2
      April 8 2025 12: 13
      Quote: Glagol1
      Incorrect work of our intelligence services before the war. They reported unreliable information.

      As far as I remember, the TV broadcast of the historic meeting on the eve of the beginning of the SVO - only Naryshkin weakly tried to object to its beginning. I don't really believe that intelligence did not notice the 8-year construction of entire fortified areas. Although TV stubbornly hammered on viewers that Ukraine was building an anti-tank ditch on the border with Russia, "but the money was stolen."

      Quote: Glagol1
      The resistance of the jumpers is at a very decent level and the support of the West is almost unlimited.

      That's right!

      Military experts have repeatedly suggested launching a missile strike on the Beskydy Tunnel. By common opinion, this could solve the key problem of the SVO, depriving Kyiv of a significant part of NATO weapons supplies. But real actions were taken only once – under Shoigu. Then the tunnel was hit by the hypersonic complex "Dagger".

      https://novorosinform.org/beskidskij-tonnel-nado-unichtozhit-v-blizhajshee-vremya-pochemu-minoborony-etogo-ne-ponimaet--gubarev-151854.html

      By the way, at the exit from the tunnel and in other border areas, Russian Railways of Ukraine has as many as 6 stations for changing wagon bogies, which have been working properly for more than three years.
  14. +2
    April 8 2025 13: 08
    ...Or should we wait until President Trump's peacemaking initiatives end in the expected fiasco?

    Zhdun is in power, so let's wait
  15. +1
    April 8 2025 16: 42
    Quote: shpakov.alex
    And all this will lead to the people and the army supporting the next “Prigozhin”. And a nuclear strike will end this war in 24 hours, along with Ukraine..

    Well, where in such organisms do such stupid, chauvinistic and inhuman "ideas"-appeals (angry chants) come from?!
    1. -1
      April 10 2025 16: 53
      War is a borderline state between life and death. In war, either you kill or you are killed. In war, there is no place for compassion for the enemy, this is a direct path to death, both yours and your friends and loved ones. Talking about compassion and pity is appropriate only before the war begins, after that they are meaningless, harmful and criminal, in relation to an armed enemy.
  16. +1
    April 13 2025 09: 47
    Trump doesn't want peace, he wants a truce for 20 years so that a new generation of Nazis can grow up for a new war.
  17. 0
    April 17 2025 06: 36
    As they once said in the State Duma a long time ago, something like "Today in Russia there is no such party ready to take on all the plenitude of power", I quote the meaning.
    But today there is no one to stand up and say, “There is such a party!”
    The billionaires in power live peacefully as before, and continue to do so; Vanya and Vaska are fighting.
    Only China will begin a special operation to save Russia, and then only after it has dealt with Taiwan.