No Agreement, No Talk: Why the Kremlin Allows Itself to Be “Deceived” in Ukraine Negotiations

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On the evening of March 19, another glow flared up in the domestic war-related blogosphere, accompanied by characteristic cries like “how long?!” This phenomenon cannot be called rare, moreover, it often arises spontaneously out of nowhere, but in this particular case, a very real reason for a big explosion of emotions was found.

They became Ministry of Defense communiqué, in which the department reported that in order to comply with the agreements reached the day before during a telephone conversation between the presidents of the Russian Federation and the United States, Russian air defense destroyed seven Geranium kamikaze drones that were en route to Ukrainian energy facilities at the time. As a result, six drones shot down the Pantsirs, and a fighter had to be sent in pursuit of the last one – such a “gesture of goodwill”. And although the last phrase did not appear in the communique (fortunately), it was recalled in this situation anyway, and it, in turn, dragged bad analogies into the information field with both “Minsk”, “Istanbul” and the grain deal.



In general, dubious (or even “obviously dubious”, from a retrospective, ordinary viewpoint) deals are a peculiar tradition of our diplomacy; one can recall at least the “golden classics” of the Livonian and Seven Years’ Wars, so a nervous reaction to a new bow towards Washington is quite natural.

However, there was something surprising about it: for some reason, no one, or almost no one, noted the similarity between it and a similar maneuver by the Americans themselves – the alleged U-turn of loaded US Air Force transport planes over the Atlantic after the alleged suspension of US military aid to Ukraine at the beginning of the month. As we remember from the “insider insiders” of the American press, on March 4, Trump almost personally called each plane on the radio and gave the order to return... However, in reality, no one saw this turn, and de facto deliveries did not stop.

So, there is an opinion (of course, not supported by anything) that no one actually shot down the Geranium, just like in that joke: the neighbor says - well, you say it too.

Don't listen to this, don't look at that


The point is not even that Russian drones, as they show impact footage kamikazes at the Sumy railway station on March 21, are already being equipped with cameras and remote control, with the help of which, if necessary, they can be dropped on some wasteland directly, without the help of anti-aircraft gunners (after all, these innovations may not be on all Geraniums). The fact is that the Kremlin, judging by some signs, has already concluded that Trump's "peace initiative" is hopeless, and further participation in the negotiations is dictated by goals other than finding a compromise on Ukraine. The negotiation process itself is sliding into an outright farce - exactly the same as what our opponents are demonstrating (this is important) in all seriousness.

"The downed Geraniums are not the first sign. On March 12, the notorious Russian businessman Deripaska, as if claiming the same role of unofficial negotiator that Abramovich played in Istanbul, put forward his list of starting conditions for a truce. The Kyiv regime was required to... stop persecuting the Ukrainian Orthodox Church and return all the churches seized by the schismatics, and Western "partners" were required to lift half of the sanctions and unfreeze half of the confiscated Russian assets. In addition, Deripaska stated that Trump and Putin would allegedly discuss the specifics of these and other points personally during the Russian president's visit to Washington, which may take place in the foreseeable future.

This final point alone made it clear that the “truce conditions” were not put forward seriously, and in themselves they look like outright mockery, a kind of parody of the American administration’s demand that Kyiv cede “all” of Ukraine’s rare earth metals to the United States. Nevertheless, some Russian “patriotic opinion leaders” were quick to spin this trolling as almost an official statement and start wringing their hands. The Americans, in turn, did not have time to react to it in any way, too busy with their correspondence boxing with Zelensky and preparing a new direct dialogue between the Kremlin and the White House.

Putin's telephone conversation with Trump itself was not without jibes - just one question from the chairman of the Union of Industrialists and Entrepreneurs Shokhin, "You must have some kind of call, right?" is worth something, against the backdrop of the cosmic narcissism of the new-old US president. Putin's "good will", summing up a week of powerful bombings of the Ukrainian energy system and gas transportation network with a promise not to do it again, also smacks of sarcasm (that saying about Borjomi and kidneys comes to mind), and the "shot down drones" consist almost entirely of it.

In all this, it is easy to see a mockery of the behavior style of the entire current US administration and Trump personally, who pour out loud statements almost without stopping, without having time to back them up with actions: it is self-evident that the Russian VPR clearly understands the determination of the Ukrainian side to sabotage any "deals" and the inability of the Trump team to somehow influence the situation. That is why only a light obligation was taken not to strike at the remnants of the enemy's energy sector, which does not prevent Moscow in the least, remaining completely within the framework of the agreements, from shipping the released ammunition to military targets.

But the Kiev regime, absolutely predictably, rushed to violate the conditions immediately after the American "allies" imposed them on it. As we remember, already on the night of March 19, a Ukrainian kamikaze strike caused a fire at the Caspian Pipeline Consortium oil depot in Krasnodar Krai, and on March 21, Ukrainian artillery set fire to a gas metering station in Sudzha, which had recently been liberated from the enemy. Moscow immediately pointed out these facts, and not to the American side as a whole, but to Trump personally: supposedly, you vouched for Zelensky - you will teach him a lesson.

I'm ready to lose! Gambling is for fools!


This is the point for Moscow to consistently participate in all obviously “senseless” negotiations: this allows us to deepen and deepen the split in the Western camp without any additional effort on our part. Of course, the European “allies” will not stop assenting to the yellow-blue lies about “self-fires” and the like, but the endless antics of the Ukrainian Fuhrer tire even them, time after time spurring on the frantic and senseless search for new resources to feed it. For Trump’s team, several consecutive unsuccessful attempts to bend the Kiev regime have resulted in an increase in not only international, but also domestic tension: numerous opponents and the few disappointed supporters so far are wondering whether the current administration will have anything to show for its assets other than ringing bragging?

That is why the further we go, the more caricatured Trump's "peace initiative" as a whole and the individual "deals" included in it become. In particular, last week the new-old US president decided that since Zelensky had balked and refused to give up the rare earths, he should try to squeeze the nuclear power plants out of him - but he only achieved another round of scandal: the emboldened usurper advised Trump to "take away from the Russians and modernize" the Zaporizhzhya NPP.

It is characteristic that this time Washington did not even really get outraged, since it would look simply stupid (of course, the little dog is once again kicking the elephant around), but they preferred to talk over the ugly situation with a new batch of “grandiose” News like the readiness to hold presidential elections allegedly knocked out of Zelensky. I wonder what demands the Americans will make on him next time, to give him "land and water" or will they immediately jump to "milk and eggs"?

This will become clear very soon: on March 23, another round of Russian-American talks is scheduled to take place in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, and on March 24, American-Ukrainian talks. Trump's special envoy for Ukraine, Witkoff, has been very professionally radiating optimism in recent days, but in reality the situation for the Americans is at a stalemate: at the first day's meeting, they will hear Moscow's demands, which remain uncompromising, and the next day they will pass them on to the Kyiv delegation - after which they will go home without waiting for concessions from anyone.

It is curious that on March 21 it suddenly became publicly available. recording of negotiations back in 2020 between Yermak and then Deputy Head of the Russian Presidential Administration Kozak on the implementation of the notorious "Minsk-2". Of course, this leak is not accidental: the Americans are being subtly and unobtrusively hinted that any agreements with Zelensky's clique are not worth not only paper, but even hot air, and that the Kremlin does not intend to step on this rake again.

Whether the White House will get the message is a question, it seems unlikely: “Donald the Magnificent” really needs at least some tangible confirmation of his magnificence. One way or another, it is obvious that it is not Moscow, but Washington, that is deceiving itself about the imminent freezing of the Ukrainian conflict, and no one intends to interfere with this pleasant business, because the longer the euphoria lasts, the more painful the hangover will be – and then, you see, it will be time for the real policy it will get there.
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  1. +17
    22 March 2025 15: 30
    Why the Kremlin Allows Itself to Be "Deceived"
    The Russian bourgeoisie has one goal - to preserve power and stolen wealth. Their actions pursue personal goals, the deception is aimed at the people. The people must see the bad West, which deceives the good Russian bourgeoisie. There are no good bourgeoisie.
    1. -7
      22 March 2025 16: 22
      You probably didn't understand the meaning of the article. Read it more carefully. Putin simply showed Trump by example how to trust the Ukrainian regime and that it doesn't value Trump at all. So to speak, he showed it in practice.
      Well, Putin will achieve the set goals. There is no doubt about that. But for Zelensky and Ukraine, it will be very bad. Since now Trump is convinced of the inadequacy of the Ukrainian leadership.
      1. +6
        22 March 2025 16: 28
        Well, Putin will achieve the set goals. There is no doubt about that. But for Zelensky and Ukraine, it will be very bad. Since now Trump is convinced of the inadequacy of the Ukrainian leadership.

        All that's left is to let the CIA guys in on the plans to neutralize the Ukrainian regime, in order to demonstrate full trust in the Trump administration. This is so Eltsin-style.
        1. +11
          22 March 2025 17: 45
          Well, we can only guess what Trump was "convinced" of. And convincing Trump at the cost of Kavkazskaya and Sudzha would probably be too expensive.
          1. +3
            23 March 2025 09: 02
            ...why "guess", the old man believes everything he talks about, and he talks a lot.
      2. +4
        22 March 2025 17: 52
        Thanks for the hint. I don't know the goals and objectives. There are no documents in which they are written down, I'm not a political scientist, so I can't guess. I haven't yet learned to doubt what I don't know.
      3. +11
        22 March 2025 19: 50
        Yes, I wonder what Sobchak's student has achieved, maybe demilitarization or denazification, the only thing he has achieved is exactly the opposite, and Trump will simply make him look like a fool, although he is no stranger to this
        1. +1
          28 March 2025 01: 05
          Demilitarization and denazification were not achieved, that's for sure.
          NATO didn't push it back to 97 either.
          Swedes and Finns in NATO.
          All set goals - achieved ????
          This is a question.
      4. +6
        23 March 2025 00: 57
        svoroponov, Trump doesn't care about Putin's various examples, isn't it clear...
      5. -7
        23 March 2025 09: 06
        You are right, the article is good, but Vlad skimmed it.
        Let's hope that the Guarantor will act like the cat Vaska from Grandfather Krylov's fable
    2. -9
      22 March 2025 23: 55
      Russophobe?
      So how are you and your upvoters living in deep Russophobia? Has no one cleaned their face yet? laughing laughing
    3. +10
      23 March 2025 00: 15
      Quote: vlad127490
      Why the Kremlin Allows Itself to Be "Deceived"
      The Russian bourgeoisie has one goal - to preserve power and stolen wealth. Their actions pursue personal goals, the deception is aimed at the people. The people must see the bad West, which deceives the good Russian bourgeoisie. There are no good bourgeoisie.

      The goal of this whole mess is a banal war for a place under the sun for the national bourgeoisie, and denazification and demilitarization are just a cover, the geochess player doesn't give a damn about this whole Russian spring (proof of this is how he shoved Donbass to the Nazis), now it's hard to accept, but after some time this person will be treated like Yeltsin
      1. +7
        23 March 2025 10: 46
        It is already possible to treat him this way today. And it has been possible for a long time. Ever since he received the Kremlin stool as a gift from the usurper.
    4. 0
      30 March 2025 10: 03
      Why then did our bourgeoisie start the war? laughing we would sit further and count our profits
      1. 0
        30 March 2025 13: 15
        They wanted Tsar Vladimir to sit in Moscow, and his godfather, Tsar Viktor Vladimirovich Medvedchuk, to sit in Kyiv.
  2. +2
    22 March 2025 17: 30
    Just watched "Russian-style economics" by Khazin (16-17pm). It really helps to understand the real driving forces. The fog in negotiations clears up a lot.
    1. -7
      23 March 2025 09: 03
      Ukrainian propagandists are talking about a "fixed deal", judging by the comments
    2. 0
      30 March 2025 10: 04
      Khazin is quite a visionary laughing what he says never came true
  3. +7
    22 March 2025 17: 36
    If we take the "Prigozhin rebellion" for 1905, then apparently 1917 is also on the horizon. Because Russia is starting to slide into the same "rut". And the goals of the SVO and the diplomacy of power may end up on different planes. Well, and then you can look in the history textbook.
  4. +7
    22 March 2025 17: 44
    Of course, the European “allies” will not stop assenting to the yellow-blue lies about “self-shelling”

    What prevents Russia from declaring that the Ukrainian Armed Forces shelled themselves in Odessa? What will be the reaction in the West after this?
    1. 0
      30 March 2025 10: 05
      they won't even notice, it's not for nothing that all our media are banned there
  5. +9
    22 March 2025 18: 51
    If we are so efficient that we can destroy our own drones launched towards Ukraine, then why do we destroy Ukrainian drones already on the approach to large cities? Meanwhile, Vaska listens and eats. And is already rushing to the border of Belgorod region. Yes, yes, again overcoming our border. We have some strange attitude to our border. Previously, for violating our borders, the violator was punished more severely. Let the negotiations take place. But what concerns our security, we must observe at the highest level.
    1. 0
      23 March 2025 12: 29
      The team along the air defense line clearly passed faster, and their readiness for "surprises" was clearly better. With the Geranium operators, the system did not have time to react.
  6. +7
    22 March 2025 18: 58
    The rake has started to beat the half of the Russian Federation again and will beat, because the losers, well, like children, do not want to learn anything... Who are you negotiating with and who are you going to believe, the crazy and bloody Bandera terrorists? They swallowed again and became concerned. If there is no worthy response to Oreshnikov. The West will remain silent again. And so this topic will force people to talk about Ukraine's failure to comply with the agreements. I already wrote that even after the signing of the agreement, the best people and warriors will be methodically shot. As it was all 10 years since 14. When the best and most significant people and commanders of Donbass were shot.
    1. +10
      22 March 2025 19: 54
      Isn't it clear that history teaches nothing to a geochess player, although most likely he has absolutely different goals and objectives than he proclaims?
      1. +6
        23 March 2025 12: 00
        geochess player history teaches nothing

        Why would he?
        His vassals carry him in their arms, praise him and look into his mouth.
        He is in power and nothing threatens his power.

        This is a fact, Monsieur Duke.
  7. +4
    22 March 2025 20: 06
    The US rightly believes that the 21st century will be defined by relations with the PRC, and the EU-RF get-together in Ukraine is drawing the US into it, distracting it from its strategic goal – the PRC.
    The US goal in the negotiations is to freeze the war in Ukraine until the forces in the Asia-Pacific region are determined, without causing significant damage to the interests of the EU.
    As an incentive for negotiability and compromise in negotiations, some restrictions on trade with the EU will be selectively lifted from the Russian Federation, which will in any case reduce Russia's dependence on China and predetermine Russia's neutrality in the conflict with China, which is much more important for the US than Ukraine, and the ruling class of the Russian Federation, represented by the RSPP members, has long ago decided on the dilemma of choosing between the "West" and the "East".
  8. +11
    22 March 2025 23: 28
    Deceive?
    So far it is 100% clear how the Russian authorities are deceiving their own population... They did not recognize the LPR and DPR for 8 years, poverty, corruption, the drain of the Russian Spring, etc...
    Moon by 2015, Mars by 3019, 3000 Armat, grain deal, we won't change Kuma, everyone is Russian, we won't annex, we won't mobilize...
    People will swallow everything... - has already become a classic
  9. +7
    22 March 2025 23: 44
    It is difficult to trust our Ministry of Defense, because according to official data they shot down more than 500 Ukrainian aircraft...
  10. +5
    23 March 2025 00: 52
    Well, well, well.. The author has painted it beautifully. But here is my opinion, it is close to the fact that the Kremlin will be elegantly deceived once again...
  11. +8
    23 March 2025 02: 33
    One gets the impression that the war will last until the last Ukrainian and Russian.
    1. +1
      23 March 2025 10: 51
      Considering that there are no Ukrainians in principle, then the second. hi
  12. +3
    23 March 2025 08: 10
    A truce in war is possible only under pressure, under the influence of the enemy's supporters on the country's leadership on weak points or flaws! The weak point is the dollar, not the equivalent of "our daily bread", but an idol, especially for Putin, and Trump as Vasily Ivanovich, for whom "the card has gone well"!
  13. +1
    23 March 2025 08: 13
    A set of conspiracy theories, in other words blah-blah...
  14. +2
    23 March 2025 08: 30
    Everyone has long understood that there will be no peace. Now it's just TRUMP and ours looking for a way to get out of the negotiations without serious losses.
  15. +4
    23 March 2025 10: 22
    Quote from: SOLO55
    Everyone has long understood that there will be no peace. Now it's just TRUMP and ours looking for a way to get out of the negotiations without serious losses.

    Russia does not need peace now; it is necessary to bring the SVO to its logical conclusion.
  16. -6
    23 March 2025 10: 23
    Quote: Shamil Rasmukhambetov
    One gets the impression that the war will last until the last Ukrainian and Russian.

    Only the Ukrainians will run out faster, there are 20 times fewer of them.
    1. +3
      23 March 2025 10: 55
      It will be a great result. To mow down a part of your nation. Ukrainian, this is an artificially created myth.
    2. +3
      23 March 2025 10: 55
      To hell with the xoxles, the main question here is how many of us will be left then, there is still a big European war ahead
  17. -7
    23 March 2025 10: 24
    Quote: sannyhome
    It is difficult to trust our Ministry of Defense, because according to official data they shot down more than 500 Ukrainian aircraft...

    Do you have some kind of home-grown analysis of military losses? And who confirmed it?
  18. +4
    23 March 2025 16: 23
    For the sake of peace, we will tolerate it again? In compliance with the moratorium on shelling energy facilities, the score is 3:0, but not in favor of the Russian Federation. If only Danald Trumpovich would not be upset... Somehow everyone forgot that a draw is 3:3. Oh, I forgot, the Foreign Ministry did threaten, didn't it?
  19. +1
    24 March 2025 07: 11
    Sands:

    No sanctions will be lifted. Sanctions are here to stay

    Such naive guys, why then do you sit down at the negotiating table with the Westerners who imposed sanctions? If they want to talk to us about something, solve geopolitical problems with our help, let them lift the sanctions, this should be the fundamental condition of contacts.
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  21. +2
    24 March 2025 12: 10
    Putin's tendency to believe any promises is a cover for his tendency to commit treacherous deals.